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 We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 08:08

As it says, we don't have a goal scorer.
I won't dwell on Durnan and the defence...every man and their dug saw that coming.

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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 08:09

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Rastapari, Sun 26 Aug 08:08

As it says, we don't have a goal scorer.
I won't dwell on Durnan and the defence...every man and their dug saw that coming.


Striker is no use if you concede as many goals as we are. In three league games we've gifted folk nine.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 08:22

Yes already we have shipped 9 goals last season I think we had one of the best goals against records
So it tells you already where we need to tighten up
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: dpard  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 08:29

We certainly do. I feel we have a "strike force" in name only.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 08:44

Its very easy to see why Faiss didn,t cut it in the premier league , we are far to lightwieght up front and all the trickery in the world doesn,t make up for a good old fashioned rumble them up striker, as before its easy to see why Durnan was released from Tannadice absolutally brutal defender.

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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: par-91  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 09:09

2 attempts on target yesterday, 1 from Devine and Jackson’s goal. El Bakhtaoui was dreadful yesterday. Only seemed interested in looking good himself, trying fancy flicks and tricks, when he should have kept it simple and benefitted the team.

The one he attempted a flying volley in the second half, when the ball came to him, when he was unmarked said it all. He had time to control it and get a shot away, but only wanted the spectacular.

Andy Ryan deserves a longer run in the team, to build up partnerships. Faiss & Hippo hasn’t worked so far, so we need to find something that does.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 09:19

When you lose four goals recruiting a striker isn't the obvious solution. This reminds me of last season when every poor result was Nicky Clark's fault apparently.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 09:21

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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 09:43

Ryan needs to show he deserves a run in the team, yesterday was another example of why he hasn't been in the side although he wasn't any worse than El Bakhtaoui. Hippolyte isn't a striker imo, so yes we need another striker without a doubt.

we need a centre half with pace, arguably full back/wing back cover as well but that doesn't take away the fact we need a striker.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: 1981par  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 09:55

Started a thread about fais last week and got shot down. In league one fais was excellent. He wasn’t good enough for premier league at Dundee and is he good enough for a championship remains to be seen. Maybe league one is his level.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 10:06

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Hummingbird Harry, Sun 26 Aug 09:21

FEB was never going to be what people though he would, one good season in the seaside league (curtesy of Michael Moffat) doesn’t cut it for me.


An absolute myth. It was pointed out several times on here Moffat only got a handful of assists for Faissal. Michael Paton got more than double!
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 10:11

Here we go again.

Pars fans at their best singling out individuals for criticism.

Heroes to zeros in the space of two games.

Lets be fair, the whole team were brutal.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 10:20

Faiss is to lightweight, Andy Ryan needs a run of matches. Hippo is not a striker. I doubt there is any money left in the pot to bring more players in. We don’t have the endless resources of County and Utd.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: steaua  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 10:22

I was at the game yesterday and , my observations were: as soon as we were moving forward there were nine Ayr players in their penalty box. Now if we were to move that ball forward quicker to the frontline, they would not have had time to get all these players down the pitch. We all know how fast Faissal is, so why wait till the lads up front are marked rigid. It is all very well weaving patterns in the midfield but that will not bring goals. GET THE BALL FORWARD QUICKER, PLEASE.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 10:23

Fais is a good player but he cannot play up with Andy Ryan, there's no physical presence. If you're gonna play with them you can't put anything in the air. But I totally agree we need a 6ft plus guy similar to McManus to rough up defences and at least link up with the other striker which doesn't seem to be happening right now. Striker and Centre Back are top priorities. Thank God the window is still open to try and get somebody through the door
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 10:32

Maybe the team also needs time to gel. With so many new players sometimes it takes several games to get used to each others strengths and weaknesses. Ok fais isn't the most robust but he is very skillful. Hippolyte has undoubted abilities too. We probably have a fair amount of skill throughout the team so in the practicalities of finance or lack of it, why not work with what we have. Panic measures after 3 games won't solve much.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 10:35

''Thank God the window is still open to try and get somebody through the door''.

That mixing of metaphors made me smile!
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Number57  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 10:43

Kenny Miller

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: JimMcDAFC  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 10:53

Maybe we should give Morrison a start against Inverness this week, seemed to do ok in the last game against them. Plus hopefully show the usual three centre backs that their places are not a certainty every week.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 11:10

It was surprising that Morrison wasn't on the bench yesterday which left us with no defensive cover.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 11:21

hes injured again but I doubt he would be given a start if fit.

"An absolute myth. It was pointed out several times on here Moffat only got a handful of assists for Faissal. Michael Paton got more than double!"

more to it than just "a handful of assists".

"Panic measures after 3 games won't solve much"

it isn't a panic measure when its something or things we have needed before preseason started.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: parsloyal98  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 11:25

Would happily see us play a 4-4-1-Kenny formation after that dross yesterday

We love Dunfermline We do!
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 11:53

"
"An absolute myth. It was pointed out several times on here Moffat only got a handful of assists for Faissal. Michael Paton got more than double!"

more to it than just "a handful of assists"."

Exactly. Anyone whose eyes weren't painted on could see that Moffat's movement was creating space for el Bakhtaoui on top of the (more than a handful) direct assists he had that season.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: LazyBW  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 12:03

I think there is something in that we need a support striker alongside one of our 'goalscoring' centre forwards. Could L Longridge not fill that void should we play 442? I feel he is wasted out wide in that formation and far more effective when he can combine with both midfield and the forward areas.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: allanwilson10  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 12:47

I would like to see Lewis McCann given a chance before we spend money that we may not need to.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Sticky Par  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 16:17

El Bacwhohe ?

Sticky Par
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 16:40

We can’t play 442 anymore, we don’t have a competent right back. Got away with it last season as we had Morris covering and organising, unless aj pulls a quality defender with pace out the bag we have no options.

I don’t have faith in this happening tho as aj just as likely to buy another durnan.

Just sitting here drenched in my own negativity!
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 16:59

We’ll need to change our tactics too, I don’t get why we’ve signed faz back in the hope he can win headers again defenders a foot taller than him.

I thought a 3-5-2 would mean we would use the midfield this season, fallen back to old ways already.

Just sitting here drenched in my own negativity!
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 18:06

Don’t think Andy Ryan will cut it this year, loved to be proved wrong but don’t think he’s good enough, we definitely at least need one more CB and striker
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Parstheduchieonthelefthandside  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 18:17

Looks likely but makes you wonder why our manager though it worth spending money we don't have on him (£40k was it?)
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 18:32

How did we manage to spend money we didn't have with no borrowing facility?
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Parstheduchieonthelefthandside  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 18:36

You just going out your way to misinterpret my point? £40k was and is a lot of money for our club. If I was a director I'd be looking for a return on this investment.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 18:38

So what do you want? Justice? Horse whipping? Stoning?

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Parstheduchieonthelefthandside  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 18:42

FFS. No, just stating the point that the only player we've spent money on since administration (I think) does not appear to be viewed as a first team regular by the manager.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 19:07

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Parstheduchieonthelefthandside, Sun 26 Aug 18:42

FFS. No, just stating the point that the only player we've spent money on since administration (I think) does not appear to be viewed as a first team regular by the manager.


Think your making a valid point
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Sierra Nevada  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 22:25

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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 22:41

How many games has he actually started for us since he has been here and what's the most amount of consecutive starts?When he has started how many times has he played the full 90? One game here and there shows the manager doesn't have faith in him and won't have done much for his self confidence either.

If the website I just checked is correct he has only ever started 6 league games for us.



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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Sierra Nevada  
Date:   Sun 26 Aug 22:49

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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Mario  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 06:44

Another hat trick for the evergreen Stephen Dobbie. Falikirk must be shaking in their boots whenever he trots out, at this rate his scoring tally this season will surpass his age..
Oh for an old head on young shoulders, or not so young shoulders even.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Sliema Par  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 07:13

I am still getting counselling after that Stephen Dobbie hat trick day here!
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: the saline hill puma  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 07:47

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Parstheduchieonthelefthandside, Sun 26 Aug 18:36

You just going out your way to misinterpret my point? £40k was and is a lot of money for our club. If I was a director I'd be looking for a return on this investment.


We didn't spend 40k or anywhere near that on him so you can stop worrying

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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 07:53

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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Parstheduchieonthelefthandside  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 07:55

Fair enough. I think £40k was widely mentioned at the time.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: the saline hill puma  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 07:58

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WORST, Mon 27 Aug 07:53

I'm sure it was reported as 40k it the time?


It wasn't it was undisclosed and folk jumped around many figures, some even saying 100k lol

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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Gregshawsgranny  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 09:18

We need an Andy Smith to lead the line
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 09:40

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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 09:56

Striker? Need to sort the defence first. Ashcroft fell over far too easily for the third goal and the defence was so bad for the second that Forrest just walked the ball in. Jackson Longridge is our best attacking threat showed good composure taking his goal. Apart from the defence handing the game to Ayr we looked promising.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 10:30

I can just imagine AJ and his team watching the video analysis of the game and saying ''We need a striker''.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 10:31

The very man... https://youtu.be/Vi7KSAiJhmw

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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 10:35

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wee eck, Mon 27 Aug 10:30

I can just imagine AJ and his team watching the video analysis of the game and saying ''We need a striker''.


Well if your not putting the other team under pressure and they don't fear your threat...you're going to under pressure.
Teams weren't afraid of Bert Paton's defence but by God they were afraid of the attack.

I Hope You're Ok Today....
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: dover par  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 11:06

We’ve been after one for awhile ,landing them is the problem.

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: the saline hill puma  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 11:33

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WORST, Mon 27 Aug 09:40

TSHP, I don't disagree with you about the 40k, but you saying "it was no where near that", is implying you know what was paid?


Yes, but I'm not going to disclose the figure on here although I would imagine if anyone really needed to know they could find out



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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 12:14

How could they find out if it was undisclosed, which btw is wrong, when the club is fan owned there should be no such thing as an undisclosed fee.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 12:25

It just shows how important Morris was to our team.

We have had a couple of bad results but no need to panic yet. It's up the manager to get us out of this mini slump and he needs time to do it.




It's bloody tough being a legend
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 12:25

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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 12:46

''How could they find out if it was undisclosed, which btw is wrong, when the club is fan owned there should be no such thing as an undisclosed fee.''

I have some sympathy with that, Westie, but the trouble is, if you disclose it, it's not just Pars' fans who then know the fee. Do we want other clubs to know too?

Financial info is always sensitive. On the other hand, I would like to know what happened to Kenny Murray!
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: allanwilson10  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 12:48

I believe that he fee for Ryan was undisclosed by the request of Airdrie.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 12:57

Eck, absolutely, players wages etc should be confidential but it stinks that the fee is undisclosed. The above poster suggests it was Airdrie's request and given that they were struggling financially it reeks even more.
There was a spell before the Glaziers moved in that Man Utd opened everything up you could see to the exact penny what everyone involved in a deal got including agents.
I was surprised there was not more questions from our support as regards the Andy Ryan fee
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 13:33

If Airdrie sold for financial reasons the fee was probably quite modest.
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 Re: We need an actual striker...
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Mon 27 Aug 13:46

This was from the Airdrie FC website, they'd had several offers but after the Rangers game Dunfermline "revised " their offer


August 15, 2017



The Club can confirm that Andy Ryan has signed for Dunfermline Athletic for an undisclosed fee.



There had been a number of bids from several clubs over recent weeks, however none of these met the valuation of the Airdrieonians Board.



A revised offer was made on Sunday by Dunfermline and after due consideration the Board felt that it was in the interests of the Club to allow Dunfermline to speak to the player.



Andy had a medical late last night and the paperwork was completed to allow him to move to Dunfermline.



Chairman, Jim Ballantyne explained: "Whilst in the short term this is a blow, the deal on offer was at a level that could not be declined.



"We have to be honest and clubs at our level are 'selling' clubs and every player has a price. We are content that price was achieved."



He continued: "We now have the tough job of replacing him but sufficient resources will be made available to Gordon Dalziel to commence this process.



"I would like to thank Andy for his contribution and wish him well for the future."
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