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 New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 08:52

Saw a tweet saying that 20 matches per year on a Friday night on BBC two.

Sounds like clubs will lose out as money goes into the overall pot.

It's pretty obvious what a Friday night game does to attendances.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 08:54

Fans 💩 on again



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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: Lambo1885  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 08:58

I hate Friday night games (mainly due to the fact I can't make them).
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: Sierra Nevada  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 09:28

It's clubs like us that take the hit.

They generally pick the bigger teams but it near enough halves our crowd. It's fine for the like of Alloa who have small crowds anyway and take the TV extra cash.

I would rather they just put a decent highlights package together. An improved version of football first from years back.



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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 10:16

Highlights of all games would be good for fans.
Problem is the cost of all the tv crews. Maybe they could work with club tv crews.

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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: DRFC_no1  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 11:04

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PARrot, Tue 02 Oct 10:16

Highlights of all games would be good for fans.
Problem is the cost of all the tv crews. Maybe they could work with club tv crews.


Cmon, that would mean someone having common sense
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 11:10

National coverage on a free to air broadcaster during prime time TV hours? Advertising revenues will rise.

Turn on, Tune in, Drop out.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 11:30

It’ll suit the visiting club for sure, they get nothing from an away game regardless of when it’s played.

So when we are not at home we’ll benefit accordingly, same as other clubs when away.

Won’t do much for crowds as evidenced by last Friday’s attendance at EEP.

Not convinced it’ll do much for TV audience figures, if Friday’s dire viewing is a taste of what’s to come.

Assuming it’s only BBC 2 Scotland - can’t think the rest of the U.K. will be interested.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 11:42

Doesn't the TV money for league games go into a pool divisible amongst all the clubs so that the teams involved in the match don't benefit directly? It's different for cup matches.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: Mr Mac  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 12:18

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wee eck, Tue 2 Oct 11:42

Doesn't the TV money for league games go into a pool divisible amongst all the clubs so that the teams involved in the match don't benefit directly? It's different for cup matches.


I've seen an article stating just that, the cash goes into the big pot so the Premiership clubs will do better than the Championship clubs apparently....

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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 12:29

Pie and Bovril stating that championship teams voted against ,but premier teams pushed it through

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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 12:37

Wee Eck - that’s the point I was obviously struggling to make.

All teams will benefit from a divi up of the money pool, whereas away sides get nothing from normal league fixtures.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: dave67  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 12:48

The SPFL have agreed a deal with the BBC to show Championship games, but most of the cash will go into the Premiership pot.

The deal will see second tier games shown on a Friday night on BBC2 and then the new Scottish channel being launched in February according to the Daily Mail.

BBC Scotland will pay the SPFL £700,000 for the rights to show 20 games over the next two seasons, but due to the organisations rules, the money goes into the overall pot distributed at the end of the season meaning most will go to Premiership clubs.

It means that clubs finishing in the bottom half of the Championship will earn less than £7k a year despite the deal focusing on them.

An SPFL source told the Daily Mail: "The Championship clubs were warned that if they pushed for more cash for their contribution to the prize money then Premiership[ clubs could do the same when the next television deal is signed."

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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: Sierra Nevada  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 13:02

Wonder of this is taking the place of ALBA coverage.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: dafc  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 13:09

Only in Scotland can a deal like this be agreed - not fit for purpose.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 13:13

Only in Scotland :(
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 13:22

Quote:

dave67, Tue 2 Oct 12:48

The SPFL have agreed a deal with the BBC to show Championship games, but most of the cash will go into the Premiership pot.

The deal will see second tier games shown on a Friday night on BBC2 and then the new Scottish channel being launched in February according to the Daily Mail.

BBC Scotland will pay the SPFL £700,000 for the rights to show 20 games over the next two seasons, but due to the organisations rules, the money goes into the overall pot distributed at the end of the season meaning most will go to Premiership clubs.

It means that clubs finishing in the bottom half of the Championship will earn less than £7k a year despite the deal focusing on them.

An SPFL source told the Daily Mail: "The Championship clubs were warned that if they pushed for more cash for their contribution to the prize money then Premiership[ clubs could do the same when the next television deal is signed."


If Dave is correct, the BBC should be told to shove it. It reminds of the "deal " they reached with the SPL in the first years of this century. One live game every Sunday pm, £50k to the home side, £40k for the visitors. Almost every week without fail, the live game involved Celtic or Rangers as the away team. Result - the £50k for the home team just about made up for the loss of income through the turnstiles, as told to me by John Yorkston, while the visitors, who would normally have made hee haw, pocketed £40k......

I think it's called robbing the poor to pay the rich......



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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: Sierra Nevada  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 13:24

The SPFL quote comes across as a know your place and stop asking for more type bitch slap to the championship clubs.

They seem to be creating a them and us type environment. Small minded administrators that can't see past their nose, who continually let Scottish football down. Quite happily watching lower league teams strapped for cash, lose even more vital income and blatantly sneering about it when questioned. I detest these parasites.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: Paradox  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 20:32

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Sierra Nevada, Tue 2 Oct 13:24

The SPFL quote comes across as a know your place and stop asking for more type bitch slap to the championship clubs.

They seem to be creating a them and us type environment. Small minded administrators that can't see past their nose, who continually let Scottish football down. Quite happily watching lower league teams strapped for cash, lose even more vital income and blatantly sneering about it when questioned. I detest these parasites.


Pretty much this. Can't think of anything positive that the current administration has done for the game/league in Scotland.

A completely feckless organisation, who got greedy years ago, and have been paying the price ever since.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 20:41

Although it is not the absolute solution to all the issues associated with the administration of the game, it’s long overdue that we had one governing body only.

This matter, and the shambles of two major semi finals scheduled for the same venue on the same day is indicative of the problem of separate ruling organisations.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 2 Oct 23:24

If the SFA is a shambles and the SPFL is a shambles. how would having one governing body improve things?
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 3 Oct 06:03

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wee eck, Tue 2 Oct 23:24

If the SFA is a shambles and the SPFL is a shambles. how would having one governing body improve things?


Well, we may get a coordinated shambles, eck. 😃



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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Wed 3 Oct 07:19

It's worth noting that the cup semi final shambles and this TV deal are both the responsibility of the SPFL. The SFA have nothing to do with these decisions so I'm not sure how it leads to calls for a unified body?
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Wed 3 Oct 08:38

The them and us environment mentioned above has existed ever since the leagues were split into four, with an elite top ten created and renamed. (It is now 12,of course).

Most of the TV money goes there, most of the other media coverage is focussed there and it gets worse for the majority of the smaller clubs with every year and every announcement.

Some clubs will doubtless argue that they have benefitted a lot.
I'm thinking of teams such as St. Johnstone, Hamilton Accies and until recently, two former Highland Leaguers, ICT and Ross County, Patrick Thistle too.
Whereas, teams like us, Morton, now Dundee United, Falkirk are probably losing out by not being in a top flight of say 16 teams.

You can't undo the past and meanwhile the authorities, just want to hear the cash jingling and stuff the lower leagues.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 3 Oct 09:23

"If the SFA is a shambles and the SPFL is a shambles. how would having one governing body improve things?"

"It's worth noting that the cup semi final shambles and this TV deal are both the responsibility of the SPFL. The SFA have nothing to do with these decisions so I'm not sure how it leads to calls for a unified body?"

It's not just about this present problem though, it's a long standing issue - how does a country the size of Scotland, with a population of less than six million, require two separate bodies to run its national game ?
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Wed 3 Oct 10:03

It has a lot more than two of you include the SJFA, SAFA and SWFA and many would argue that having a body responsible for the national team and a different one responsible for the League structure is a completely sensible thing to do. In rugby union, the clubs want to take over the running of the RFU down south which will only lead to clubs having more say on things like autumn internationals and the Lions. The SFA (and RFU in this example) are also responsible for grassroots sport with youth participation and coaching key areas of responsibility. Would you really trust those in charge of a league system to do those roles to the best of their ability? I'd wager if the SPFL was running things there would be a lot more of that grassroots cash going to "elite" clubs rather than to the community clubs that are the lifeblood of our game.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: Sliema Par  
Date:   Thu 4 Oct 22:34

At the moment I believe that the grand total sum from TV broadcasting is £21m, a derisory sum.

Look at the comparison with European nations of similar size, most notably Denmark.

Don't forget we have the biggest Gates per head of population of W Europe.

Things are about to change though.BT Sport have gone public that they want a TV monopoly of Scottish Football from 2020, but that would entail a bid around £40m ,for the simple reason that SKY will not give up Old Firm coverage and want matches involving our big five.

As for the comment that the top tier should have 16 teams; that is self evident.

It would be good to have this on the agenda at the next Supporters' Council Meeting.
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 Re: New tv deal for championship
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Fri 5 Oct 09:31

Comparisons with other countries like Denmark and the like aren't a good like for like comparison though. In most of these countries, every single game is shown live, and as a result there are as many as 6 or even 8 different slots for matches being played in. I can't imagine many fans being happy if we went to having Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday lunchtime, Sunday lunchtime, Monday night fixtures (and that's assuming the current 12 team league; add in Saturday tea time and Sunday evenings if you have a 16 team set up) even if we did get Scandanavian levels of TV money.
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