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 Highlights
Topic Originator: The Roy Barry Fan Club  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 15:17

The Club highlights on DAFC.CO.UK have been cut from six or seven minutes to just less than three? I was looking to see a couple of incidents that don't appear

1. The save from Ryan's curling shot in the first half that the keeper did well to push round the post.
2. The shot over the bar from Louis Longridge after a great move in the first half -- thought that was our best chance in the game


I am normally a great fan of the highlights.

What it did show however was the shoulder-charge by Dykes on Martin just before the QOS goal. Martin is knocked right off his feet, and you see Dykes leaning in to deliver the blow. In the modern era I am amazed that the referee allowed that.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 15:30

I was hoping to see Clarks antics at the end of the game that infuriated some fans and AJ looking at the NW and shaking his head as the fans shouted for him to resign.
AJ if you don't like it either improve things or get out.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 16:58

Quote:

The Roy Barry Fan Club, Sun 21 Oct 15:17

The Club highlights on DAFC.CO.UK have been cut from six or seven minutes to just less than three? I was looking to see a couple of incidents that don't appear

1. The save from Ryan's curling shot in the first half that the keeper did well to push round the post.
2. The shot over the bar from Louis Longridge after a great move in the first half -- thought that was our best chance in the game


I am normally a great fan of the highlights.

What it did show however was the shoulder-charge by Dykes on Martin just before the QOS goal. Martin is knocked right off his feet, and you see Dykes leaning in to deliver the blow. In the modern era I am amazed that the referee allowed that.


I was shouting for a foul on Martin, but since no one else mentioned it and there were no obvious protests from the players I thought I was mistaken. That makes our defeat even harder to swallow, imo.

TRBFC's is one fan whose opinion I respect, even without seeing the highlights.



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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 17:42

I’m way at moment workng ParsTV from afar
I’ve not checked or known the highlights have been uploaded

Regardless of the result we do need to see true highlights, if we’ve played good or bad then need to be shown

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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 17:53

Clark’s antics ?
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 17:56

If we conceded a late goal unfairly, it maybe should have made the score 2-1, or 3-1.

Unfortunately, it cost us the game 0-1.

How much longer is our gash play and results going to be defended?
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 18:03

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mach1, Sun 21 Oct 17:56

If we conceded a late goal unfairly, it maybe should have made the score 2-1, or 3-1.

Unfortunately, it cost us the game 0-1.

How much longer is our gash play and results going to be defended?


What are you trying to say exactly, mach1? Did you think Queens were the better team yesterday? Cos if we were gash, there isn't a word to describe their performance.



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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 18:06

Queens had a tactic, play deep, throw people to defend in the box, then towards the end break suddenly and hopefully score.

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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 18:14

That's what I am saying they outsmarted us and they got three points.

If our football was anything decent, I wouldn't be nearly so critical, but if you are happy with the way things are, that's fine.

Keeeep dancing!
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 18:24

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mach1, Sun 21 Oct 18:14

That's what I am saying they outsmarted us and they got three points.

If our football was anything decent, I wouldn't be nearly so critical, but if you are happy with the way things are, that's fine.

Keeeep dancing!


I'm anything but happy, mach1 and well you know it! I just can't be bothered laying into my team and manager because the visitors did a Mourinho on us. $h!t happens. Deal with it without squealing. We get behind the team next week and hope for a better result. It's the only way.

Or we could boo the manager and the team when they come out before the game on Saturday. That'll make them play better......



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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 18:54

Now you're just being silly.

I'll wait your 60 days and many more beyond that no doubt, but change is inevitable.

Just hope we don't lose too many supporters whilst waiting.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: 1981par  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 19:06

They deserved to win. Defended well and scored a good goal. Mulrany was shocking for goal and Robinson goes down too quickly. Craigen also nowhere to be seen.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 19:19

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1981par, Sun 21 Oct 19:06

They deserved to win. Defended well and scored a good goal. Mulrany was shocking for goal and Robinson goes down too quickly. Craigen also nowhere to be seen.


Was Martin shocking though? I thought at the time he'd been fouled, a view confirmed by the Roy Barry fan club, who watched the incident on the highlights on COWS.

I can't agree QOS deserved their win and I think you'll find yourself in a tiny minority on that. The Pars should have won on chances created. Unfortunately, it's only goals that count.



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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 19:22

If you're going to criticise a player, at least get his name right. It's Malaury Martin.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 19:25

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mach1, Sun 21 Oct 18:54

Now you're just being silly.

I'll wait your 60 days and many more beyond that no doubt, but change is inevitable.

Just hope we don't lose too many supporters whilst waiting.


Silly? Perhaps. Let's wait and see what happens in the next couple of months. If the Pars results don't improve the BoD will be forced to act, because more and more fans would express their dissatisfaction.

I've a feeling we'll start climbing the table once the likes of Beadling, Higgy, Williamson, Keana and Muirhead are fully fit and knocking on the first team door for a starting place.



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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: par-91  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 19:28

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1981par, Sun 21 Oct 19:06

They deserved to win. Defended well and scored a good goal. Mulrany was shocking for goal and Robinson goes down too quickly. Craigen also nowhere to be seen.


Haven’t watched the highlights, but my view at the time was Vincent played a poor pass to Martin and then didn’t warn him there was a man coming in behind him. Surely it’s not Martin’s fault, that nobody told him there was someone coming from behind to challenge him?

Also, are you really criticising Craigen for the fact that he was running forward down the right hand side, when we had the ball at 0-0? He was trying to move into space and bring the team forward. If Williamson had been playing and done the same, he certainly wouldn’t get criticised for that.

Agree on Robinson. Looked like he dived away from the ball, at the game. Very very poor.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: Swifty  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 20:08

I thought Martin was our best player for about 60 minutes. Then his lack of match practice caught up with him. At which time he shoul£ have been substituted!
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 20:20

He's played 6 (I think) first team games now. Shouldn't be struggling after an hour unless he's carrying an injury?
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Sun 21 Oct 20:25

Yes, have to agree, especially since he doesn't play the game at a great tempo.

Between game time and training, he should be good for 90 minutes now.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: polski par  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 13:15

didn't notice how bad that challenge on martin was at the time.it was like something out of the NFL.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: Valley Par  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 13:31

getting less everyweek
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 15:13

it was shoulder to shoulder, he doesnt even appeal for a foul himself either when it happens or when he gets to edge of the box as the ball hits the net and neither do any of his team-mates.

Would be interested to know why there was such booing when we were on the attack on one of the earlier clips though.

Go back to f@lkirk game be 9 mins of highlights.





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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 16:07

The ref was near enough and I can only assume he thought it was a fair shoulder charge, which the stronger guy won.
He was a physical presence for the whole game.

Whatever, it can't be rewound now and we need to win the next challenge.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 17:08

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mach1, Sun 21 Oct 17:56

If we conceded a late goal unfairly, it maybe should have made the score 2-1, or 3-1.

Unfortunately, it cost us the game 0-1.

How much longer is our gash play and results going to be defended?


I dont disagree with everything you say but "Gash Play"?

I really dont think that is fair. Gash finishing gash results but the general play hasn't been gash. There is room for improvement but we are not gash, neither is any team in this league bar Falkirk so far.
We are a good team playing teams of very similar ability who stifle our fwd line. We need an answer to that but we are not gash.

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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 20:36

OK.

We're not gash.

Pick any adjective, so long as they are not synonymous with good.

I've rarely been so disappointed watching my team as in the last few weeks.
Minimal entertainment value, hardly any goals and very little excitement to lift the fans.

But that's just my opinion. Oh, wait a minute.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 22:04

You should have gone to Falkirk.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 22:09

We were very average but there's no way on this earth Queens deserved the win. That was a foul on Martin in my book but we didn't react and cover when they broke away.

As mach1 says every 5 minutes the football we're playing is pretty poor just now but we did create a few decent chances and were definitely on top until the strange substitutions sucked the life out of us and handed them the advantage.

On to next week.

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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 22:33

Why do you say that wee wee eck? Sounds like you're losing it.

Falkirk are even worse, thankfully.

Kelty Hearts could be a decent shout though, even with the wee fud in charge.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 23:08

You should have seen US at Falkirk. I'm sure you said you had better things to do that day.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 07:08

I'm not sure that the relevance to the Falkirk game is about but I thought we were pretty awful for long spells in that game, especially in the first half. We got better after the goal and the second half was shootie-in but not because of anything we were doing particularly well tbh, more that Falkirk were abysmal. I wouldn't call that performance "gash" but it certainly wasn't very good. The Alloa league game, Partick game and most of the Queens game however has been a turgid watch. I'm not sure how anyone can think otherwise tbh.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 07:52

I've just watched the highlights and the challenge on Martin is a foul all day long




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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: 1981par  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 10:17

Not a foul. He lost the ball many times that game.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 10:28

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1981par, Tue 23 Oct 10:17

Not a foul. He lost the ball many times that game.


He battered into him at pace wiping him out. It wasn't just a foul it was practically GBH.

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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 10:54

there shouldn't be any debate about a foul or not as the ball should have been moved quicker.

to the OP, ive not watched them myself but the QOS version might have those included.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYbl0uIp9M4
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 11:00

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1981par, Tue 23 Oct 10:17

Not a foul. He lost the ball many times that game.


No he didn't. He was one of the few who actually looks for a pass instead of just lumping it and retains the ball if there's nothing on.

It was a foul but it was really disappointing to see the lack of reaction when it wasn't given. Vincent was brushed aside far too easily before the pass was played to the scorer

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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: 1981par  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 11:52

Nobody appealed it not even Martin.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 13:34

It was a very heavy shoulder charge, which Martin seemed not to anticipate.

If it was illegal, none of our players appealed to the ref.

For a game which we dominated possession wise, it was a sore one to take.

We'll start scoring one of these games, but we need to be a bit more streetwise when the big boys are out.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 15:20

Not a foul for me. He was simply far too strong, He put Martin on his erse a couple of times before that. Martin played well on Saturday up until about 70/75 mins when you could see he was knackered.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 16:36

The lad Dykes bossed us throughout the game. Some refs might have given a foul for his shoulder charge. However in my eyes it was a fair challenge and Martin has to be held accountable for loosing the ball. I look at the physical attributes of QOS and I just wish that we had some players like that.

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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 17:50

May I remind some of you that last season we had a midfielder who Dykes would've bounced off if he'd tried that challenge on him.

Sadly he was deemed too slow by the .net jury.

Fans eh?

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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: Sierra Nevada  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 17:54

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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 20:58

I too am a big fan of the highlights. They seem pretty professional, and I appreciate that there will be tough choices to make – what do you leave in, what do you edit out, how far back to you go to show how the key move developed etc

I think there were half a dozen incidents I would have liked to have seen again

1 Louis’s first-half chance from the cutback from Ryan, which he blazed over. That was a big moment.
2 Ryan’s curling shot that the keeper turned away – at the time I thought it a bit flashy – one for the cameras perhaps.

(I agree it is a little curious that these weren’t featured.)

3 Ash’s chance from Martin’s free-kick. On second viewing it looked harder than I initially thought
4 Faze’s near thing from Connolly’s cross across the, ahem, face of goal. Difficult to see, but I feel a different player might have got something on it.
5 The shoulder charge on Martin that led to the goal. I can see why nothing was given, but Raymie feels it was a foul. What do the laws say on shoulder charges, and more importantly, what do they mean?
6 Robinson at the goal. He seemed to go down early – looks like he flogged it a bit.

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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 21:04

The QOS highlights showed all our chances and attempts.

I think if Faiss had been 6' 3", he might have scored with that header attempt.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 24 Oct 19:17

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1981par, Tue 23 Oct 10:17

Not a foul. He lost the ball many times that game.


It's quite telling that Pars fans are divided into two camps on whether it was a foul on Martin or not, even after watching the highlights. I haven't seen these, but I thought it was a foul at the time, although the fact that no Pars player protested afterwards, made me think I must have been mistaken.

The fact that Raymie is convinced it was a foul makes me think my first impression may have been correct after all.

I find it impossible to take anything 1981par posts seriously, because his reasons for posting on here seems to be to contradict other posters, conduct a campaign against our manager and generally try to wind up his fellow Pars fans. That's if he is a Pars fan.

To suggest a player has not been fouled because he lost possession many times before that is laughable. A foul is a foul, irrespective of what has/hasn't gone before.



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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Wed 24 Oct 19:46

It is a 50/50 call, the Martin thing, but it wasn't a foul for the simple reason that the ref didn't give it.

If the decision was strongly contested, it could also add doubt, bit that didn't happen either.

We can't even say he was a shoite referee, or showed bias against us.

Just disappointing it decided the game ultimately.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Wed 24 Oct 20:20

If the ref had been baldy I would have said it was a definite foul, however as he had a full Barnet then I recon it was a strong but fair challenge and no foul
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 24 Oct 20:59

Can we not discuss the refs decisions and whether they were right or wrong? Miserable mach1 says no so it would seem not. Close the forum

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Wed 24 Oct 21:36

Way over the top da_no_1.
Why on earth would you want to close the forum?

The ref's decision always stands, unless an appeal or video evidence overturns it.

Sorry that's the rules, even if they go against us. But how it relates to being miserable, I don't know how that equates in your imaginative mind.

Can I just ask you why you think our players did not appeal to or challenge the referee?
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 24 Oct 22:52

You do know refs sometimes make mistakes? And that we can discuss what might be construed as an error on the refs part? And that we also know that these discussions will in no way affect the outcome of the game?

I don't know why they didn't appeal the decision. Maybe because they're continually told by guys like you to play to the whistle?

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: USMac  
Date:   Fri 26 Oct 19:42

You can't send someone flying like that with just a shoulder; you need to use your hips, which is what Dykes did. If you use your hips, it's a foul. In ice hockey, where it is legal to use your hips, that's called a hip check.

Even if the ref does not call the foul, there's no way QoS should have scored there because we had numbers back. The CB is ball watching and does not pick up Todd, who is ahead of Craigen. Easy goal.
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 Re: Highlights
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Fri 26 Oct 20:17

If I was a coach I'd tell them to shout for everything, so guys like me would do the very opposite of what you suggest da_no_1.
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