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Topic Originator: Kirky615
Date: Sat 3 Nov 10:23
I'm bored with this clown now and his latest antics after being hit by what must have been a bazooka considering his delayed collapse was pathetic. Then he claims he will reconsider his position.......surely if hibs are a responsible club they should take some form of action around his petulance and demonstrate to everyone in football that Lennon is not bigger than the club. As it stands he absolutely is!
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Topic Originator: Boston Red Sox
Date: Sat 3 Nov 10:38
Cannot excuse what happened, there is no place for that in football. However if a hibs fan had done that in front of the hearts crowd he would have been in court the following morning and received a hefty banning order. If it’s good for the goose etc. It’s a position of trust and his behaviour should reflect that, if a banker gets caught dipping the till he gets a heftier sentence based on the position of trust. As for going down like he stood on a land mine when struck on the chest with a coin, it suits lennons agenda of being the permanent victim. Odious turd of a human
Same rules apply
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Topic Originator: 1970par
Date: Sat 3 Nov 10:40
No excuse for being hit by a missile from the crowd but he is a fud of the highest order
Perhaps if he conducted himself with some decorum it would not happen, it does not happen to other managers so why him?
Makes himself a bit of a target I’m afraid
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 3 Nov 11:00
......Haven't you got a Saturday morning flute lesson to go too?
🔩 ya 🚀
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Sat 3 Nov 11:04
It’s a difficult one as his behaviour on the touch line is way over the top.
Yet I like him as a pundit where he is quite articulate and informative. I’ve come across a few work colleagues in the west including Rangers fans who have seen him out and about and say he is a nice guy.
Did he not also spend quite a bit of time post match on DA Day with some of the kids? Clearly not all bad.
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: Murphy
Date: Sat 3 Nov 11:10
Pantomime season is starting early this year.
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Topic Originator: HalbeathRoad
Date: Sat 3 Nov 11:17
Not sure I agree. Lennon took sickening abuse for 90mins from the Hearts fans and gave a bit back. Surely if you can give it out , you can take it back ??? That’s the problem with Hearts fans , they are absolute vermin . Obviously not all their fans but a sizeable percentage of them are what I would class as utter scum. Speaking from personal experience , If you were to have the misfortune to end up in a room with five hearts fans then the chances are that 3 out of those 5 Hearts fans would be absolute c*nts !
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 3 Nov 11:21
I think it's easy to sit on a keyboard and judge people.
I think it's less easy to live with abuse as part of your day to day life and not lose your cool now and again.
Neil Lennon isn't responsible for football fans anger management issues.
Post Edited (Sat 03 Nov 11:21)
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Sat 3 Nov 11:26
I actually think Lennon is alright. He gives as good as he gets.
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Topic Originator: WORST
Date: Sat 3 Nov 11:27
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Topic Originator: 1970par
Date: Sat 3 Nov 11:31
When did we play Nottingham Forrest Hummingbird Harry? Don’t recall that one!
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 3 Nov 11:32
Whatever anyone's thought are on Lennon's personality or character, these cannot be used to excuse or justify what happened to him during the derby.
To say ''he brings it on himself'' is just another way of saying ''he deserves all he gets.'' That's just what the morons responsible for the coin throwing need to hear.
How will it end? Bullets in the post, again, or beat him up on a night out, maybe?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 3 Nov 11:35
''When did we play Nottingham Forrest Hummingbird Harry? Don’t recall that one!''
Funny, neither do I?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: HalbeathRoad
Date: Sat 3 Nov 11:44
Pre season friendly a few years back. Lennon took absolute pelters iirc.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 3 Nov 12:42
I take it anyone who says Lennon brings it on himself also think girls wearing short skirts deserve to be sexually assaulted? Or that people who take part in political protests deserve to get battered by policemen using trunceons? After all, they're "asking for it", aren't they? Get a grip of yourselves, would you?
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Topic Originator: DRFC_no1
Date: Sat 3 Nov 13:08
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Sat 3 Nov 13:17
We did beat them 2-1 we were the only Scottish team to beat them on rheir tour. If I am correct another Forrest substitute who looked like Lennon got a fair amount of abuse before we realised that it wasn't Lennon.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: FRED1981
Date: Sat 3 Nov 13:33
You can rely on Hummingbird when anything gets posted about septic past or present to put his hatred in print.Harry doesn't half show his dislike of them.
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Sat 3 Nov 14:36
Being pragmatic, he probably wouldn't have got the coin thrown at him if he didn't react but that is ignoring the problem at Tynecastle. They are the mini gers, but at least Rangers fans will admit their problems. Hearts fans are (in my experience) the most arrogant unpleasant group in Scottish football. I have no doubt of the type of abuse being aimed at Lennon during the game that made him react like that.
Twice now he has been assaulted there. Any other country in the World and that club would be playing to empty stands, but here someone can run onto the pitch punch the manager in the face live on tv and still get found not guilty in court.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 3 Nov 14:45
Good, balanced post, doctor d
Some of the comments on here are cringeworthy
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Sligo Mick
Date: Sat 3 Nov 18:10
Brings it upon himself seem to be the common statement this week
Nothing to do with being a red headed catholic from the North Of Ireland who happened to play for Celtic ?
Oh and he is passionate about his sport, and likes the occasional wind up..as does Jose M....but who gets beat up in the street,bullets sent to him,death threats,assaulted at Tynecastle by a fan yet even though this incident was live on TV the assailant was found not proven ffs
Aye its his fault right enough
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Topic Originator: mcfc-par
Date: Sat 3 Nov 18:34
Sierra Nevada wrote:
> Brendan Rodgers seems to avoid this abuse.
>
> As said before. I don't condone the idiots behaviour. Lennon
> must know from past experience though, not to goad fans in a
> derby game. Be the bigger man.
Rodgers never played for Celtic or N.Ireland.
As far as I'm aware Lennon didn't get abuse playing for N.Ireland when he was in English football, it all started when he signed for Celtic which is apparently a "crime" to some idiots.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Sat 3 Nov 18:52
Quote:
Sierra Nevada, Sat 03 Nov 14:03
What Pars player was it that Lennon said about his gardener getting paid more than him few years back?
Was it not Greg shields? Absolutely disgusting comment to make to someone. Lennon is a scumbag.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 3 Nov 18:59
If a Hibs players had gestured to the Hearts support as NL did he would have been booked, and rightly so.
Lennon should set an example to his players and fans with a bit of self control and discipline - and quit playing the "always the victim" card when it suits his purpose.
He is his own worst enemy at times, but won't admit that to himself.
There is no justification for ever throwing anything at a football match in any circumstances, for the record.
Post Edited (Sat 03 Nov 19:16)
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Sat 3 Nov 19:15
Can't recall Martin ONeill being subjected to abuse as a northern Irish catholic who played for Northern Ireland and managed Celtic.
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Sat 3 Nov 19:25
Quote:
Bamba-Daft, Sat 3 Nov 18:52
Quote:
Sierra Nevada, Sat 03 Nov 14:03
What Pars player was it that Lennon said about his gardener getting paid more than him few years back?
Was it not Greg shields? Absolutely disgusting comment to make to someone. Lennon is a scumbag.
Craig Bellamy I thought.
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Topic Originator: mcfc-par
Date: Sat 3 Nov 19:28
dafc wrote:
> Can't recall Martin ONeill being subjected to abuse as a
> northern Irish catholic who played for Northern Ireland and
> managed Celtic.
O'Neill never played for Celtic. The serious abuse of Lennon started with his first home game for N.Ireland after signing as a Celtic player.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 3 Nov 19:42
We live in weird times where you are either right or wrong and no inbetween.
Whatever happened to the point of view there are several factions that are simply wrong?
Lennon likes the wind up of opposing fans and has done it several times.
He's been close to fighting fellow managers such as McCoist and Jim Duffy.
The aforementioned disgusting comment to Greg Shields as a player and several more.
That's part of his character so he's not whiter than white and goading fans in an Edinburgh derby in the final minute after a disallowed goal is indeed asking for trouble if we are going to be realistic about it having watched football for decades.
The other side of the coin to use a phrase is that it is unnaceptable for fans to throw objects and attack players on the field.
Until the authorities start docking points which is the only real thing that would hurt the big clubs then we're going to see more of this nonsense.
If you only turn up to moan then do it elsewhere
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 3 Nov 19:49
Quote:
GG Riva, Sat 3 Nov 11:35
''When did we play Nottingham Forrest Hummingbird Harry? Don’t recall that one!''
Funny, neither do I?
"We", I think he means Rangers (as was)
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Sat 3 Nov 21:24
We played them in a pre-season friendly probably about 10 years ago. We were the only Scottish team to beat them.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Sat 3 Nov 23:44
Was Bellamy who made the comment about wages, an odious little turd.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Sun 4 Nov 14:45
Quote:
Par, Sat 03 Nov 23:44
Was Bellamy who made the comment about wages, an odious little turd.
Learn something new everyday. I’ve always thought it was lennon. Was it Greg shields he said it too? Shocking comment.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Sun 4 Nov 14:51
It may have been Greig Ross
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sun 4 Nov 15:12
Bellamy said it to Clyde player I remember, but don't remember a time with a Dunfermline player...
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Sun 4 Nov 15:18
Bellamy said it to a Clyde player. Neil Lennon said something similar to Greg Shields.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sun 4 Nov 15:40
Bellamy said it to John Potter hence the pars link, " do you want to cut my grass "
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Sun 4 Nov 15:44
Quote:
Westies squint kicks, Sun 4 Nov 15:40
Bellamy said it to John Potter hence the pars link, " do you want to cut my grass "
It was Darren Sheridan (Clyde at the time) he said it to.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sun 4 Nov 15:57
allparone wrote:
> Quote:
Westies squint kicks, Sun 4 Nov 15:40
>
> Bellamy said it to John Potter hence the pars link, " do you
> want to cut my grass "
>
> It was Darren Sheridan (Clyde at the time) he said it to.
His wife must have been telling porkies then.
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Sun 4 Nov 16:00
Quote:
Westies squint kicks, Sun 4 Nov 15:57
allparone wrote:
> Quote:
Westies squint kicks, Sun 4 Nov 15:40
>
> Bellamy said it to John Potter hence the pars link, " do you
> want to cut my grass "
>
> It was Darren Sheridan (Clyde at the time) he said it to.
His wife must have been telling porkies then.
He maybe said it to potter as well to be fair. The one that made the headlines was the Clyde player though.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sun 4 Nov 16:06
It wouldnt surprise me, I was hearing he was still a mouthpiece whilst he was taking Cardiff's academy teams roaring and shouting at referee's, linesmen and opposing coaches
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 4 Nov 16:40
So nobody really knows for sure who said what to who?
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Sun 4 Nov 18:50
It's a pity that Shields didn't finish Lennon's career. The only problem was that Shields was too much of a gentleman to do that.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 4 Nov 20:26
Lennon's career was just about finished by that time anyway.
Despite being a right wee nawf, his haul of 13 major honours as a player is none too shabby.
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Topic Originator: chewie
Date: Sun 4 Nov 22:58
It was half the Celtic team at that time who used to wind up the opposition about wages. They did it against all opposition to try and provoke. Sutton, Lennon, Thompson, even Larsson. Speak to any professional of that period. Whether it came from the odious Martin O'Neill or just the players themselves, who knows? For sure, Greg Ross and the Pars were not the only ones goaded in this way, it happened to clubs bigger and higher than ours.
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Topic Originator: Sligo Mick
Date: Mon 5 Nov 07:21
Its called in crocket Sledging, nae big deal is it
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 5 Nov 07:45
Quote:
chewie, Sun 4 Nov 22:58
It was half the Celtic team at that time who used to wind up the opposition about wages. They did it against all opposition to try and provoke. Sutton, Lennon, Thompson, even Larsson. Speak to any professional of that period. Whether it came from the odious Martin O'Neill or just the players themselves, who knows? For sure, Greg Ross and the Pars were not the only ones goaded in this way, it happened to clubs bigger and higher than ours.
In no way is this some kind of apology or justification, but some players will go to any length to upset their opponents so as to affect their concentration and their game. It's by no means confined to Celtic players, but the one alleged above is more abhorrent than most. Maybe not the most effective though.
If an opponent said that to me during a game, I think it would increase my motivation to beat him and his team.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Mon 5 Nov 08:05
Simon Ferry - who was a Celtic youth team player breaking through at that time - does a weekly sit down interview on his youtube channel with current and ex-pros.
He has told a few stories of the hazing that the youth team players (McGeady in particular) would get off senior pros at the time, all under the guise of 'character building', to toughen them up.
So i could quite believe that they were just as mouthy to opposing players
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: mach1
Date: Mon 5 Nov 09:02
Not condoning using verbal insults in anyway, but they can certainly inflame passion and cause retaliation, which is of course their intended effect.
Just look at Zidane in his last European final, or to a lesser scale, the reaction McCoist got after whispering something in Lennon's ear at a game some years ago.
It's sneaky and horrible, but sometimes effective. All the worse since the offenders can rarely be caught and shamed themselves.
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Mon 5 Nov 10:58
Mach 1. Zidane head butted the opposition player in the World Cup final due to racial abuse.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: WORST
Date: Mon 5 Nov 11:06
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Topic Originator: WORST
Date: Mon 5 Nov 11:06
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 5 Nov 12:08
''Mach 1. Zidane head butted the opposition player in the World Cup final due to racial abuse.''
No, he didn't, eeap. Initially, both Zidane and Marco Materazzi refused to speak about the incident, but years later, they opened up.
Materazzi had just grabbed Zidane's shirt for the umpteenth time, so Zizou says, ''If you want my top that badly, I'll give it to you after the game.''
Back came the Italia with, ''No thanks, I'd rather have your sister...''
The implication of that in their culture being that Zidane's sister was a bit of a slapper, at which the Frenchman lost the plot.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Mon 5 Nov 12:23
Cheers GG. I stand corrected.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: mach1
Date: Mon 5 Nov 13:26
The point was that it highlighted the type of reaction that windup merchants can achieve.
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