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 Strachan
Topic Originator: richie5401  
Date:   Tue 9 Apr 01:28

Sounded like he was making a reasonable point.Both would/should be considered wrong to shout at a match.

Of course the mob descended and had to be crushed as per.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47845680
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 Re: Strachan
Topic Originator: Liverpar25  
Date:   Tue 9 Apr 03:51

You think it's a reasonable thing to compare shouting at someone because of the colour of their skin and shouting at someone who has admitted and been convicted for paedophilia?

Maybe you shouldn't shout at either but you certainly shouldn't compare the two.
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 Re: Strachan
Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Tue 9 Apr 04:23

Liverpar25 has explained the distinction as simply and clearly as anyone ever will.

Whether Strachan should be banished from TV for making an unguarded comment, that he had not thought through, is another matter. His general point was how far a football crowd should be held to account for morality, which is far too dangerous an area to explore for many. So easier just to excommunicate him.
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 Re: Strachan
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 9 Apr 07:24

The programme is called "The Debate". Maybe they should change the title.

Of course it's ok to gob on a young female supporter on camera.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Strachan
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Tue 9 Apr 09:33

Quote:

Liverpar25, Tue 9 Apr 03:51

You think it's a reasonable thing to compare shouting at someone because of the colour of their skin and shouting at someone who has admitted and been convicted for paedophilia?

Maybe you shouldn't shout at either but you certainly shouldn't compare the two.


He wasn't "convicted of paedophilia" though.
He was convicted of sexual activity with a child.

Paedophilia is an attraction to pre-pubescent children.
Since the victim was 15 he should therefore be described as an Ephebophile.

This is in no way trying to defend him btw.
He rightly went to prison for his crime.
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 Re: Strachan
Topic Originator: richie5401  
Date:   Tue 9 Apr 12:27

I don't think there is any need to compare them at all,Liverpar.Most right minded folks would consider them both abhorrent.

There are still plenty willing to cast the first stone.Strachan(in a less that eloquent way) was making that point.

As sammer said much easier just to bin him than have a conversation about it.
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 Re: Strachan
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Tue 9 Apr 12:37

I think I said at the time did Johnson know the girl's true age or did she tell him a lie. If he knew the truth he deserved to be sentenced. Many fans that will shout at him may well have gone out with an underage girl that they had met in a club.

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 Re: Strachan
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 9 Apr 12:40

None of this is relevant.

The issue is whether we should be allowed to talk about the abuse he may, or may not receive in the same breath as racist or bigoted abuse, on a programme called "The Debate"

According to Sky the answer is no.



"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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 Re: Strachan
Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Tue 9 Apr 12:44

Johnson should have played in Germany. Then it wouldn’t have been an issue.
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 Re: Strachan
Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft  
Date:   Tue 9 Apr 13:01

Ofcourse it’s okay to berate Johnson if he ever gets lucky enough to step foot on a pitch again, which he won’t IMO. He made his bed by being a total weirdo. & he was well aware she was 15, his fiancé was pregnant at the time aswell if I’m not mistaken. Total scumbag.
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 Re: Strachan
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 9 Apr 17:09

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Bamba-Daft, Tue 9 Apr 13:01

Ofcourse it’s okay to berate Johnson if he ever gets lucky enough to step foot on a pitch again, which he won’t IMO. He made his bed by being a total weirdo. & he was well aware she was 15, his fiancé was pregnant at the time aswell if I’m not mistaken. Total scumbag.


His fiance was pregnant too. Total scumbag! Hmmmmm!

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