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 Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 1 May 13:36

Cannae see it. The True Blues are already bristling with rage at the very idea. I think some of them would rather saw a leg off without anaesthetic.....

http://www.talkingbaws.com/2019/05/rangers-fans-react-to-suggestion-of-giving-celtic-a-guard-of-honour-at-ibrox-if-they-win-league/

Some tweets are quite funny, even more so because those tweeting are deadly serious. :-)



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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Wed 1 May 13:52

That would be absolutely hilarious.
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: average white par  
Date:   Wed 1 May 14:03

"Only guard they should be getting is Right Guard" is a particularly choice comment...

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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Wed 1 May 14:21

You started the exact same thread last year
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Wed 1 May 14:23

Not up to the fans. They can moan as much as they want !

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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Wed 1 May 15:06

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Hummingbird Harry, Wed 01 May 14:21

You started the exact same thread last year


And the year before that and probably next year and the year after that and the year after that and the year after that and so on
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Wed 1 May 15:50

If they want to cause civil unrest then yes do it but this would be a very bad idea and to be honest i don't like the concept of a guard on honour it sends the wrong message that you are happy with being a failure
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 1 May 16:00

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Hummingbird Harry, Wed 1 May 14:21

You started the exact same thread last year


Naw, I didnae. You sound upset, Harry. ☹



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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 1 May 16:06

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dafc-chris1, Wed 1 May 15:50

If they want to cause civil unrest then yes do it but this would be a very bad idea and to be honest i don't like the concept of a guard on honour it sends the wrong message that you are happy with being a failure


It's not going to happen and I fully agree with you. It would be lighting the blue touch paper for the looney element in Therangers support and completely irresponsible. Having said that, it is a long established tradition and would probably not be a problem if Celtic were playing almost any other team.



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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Wed 1 May 16:59

I remember us getting one from the original Rangers at EEP, many years ago. I think that they won 5-2.

matt forsyth
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Jbob  
Date:   Wed 1 May 17:27

Have Celtic won the League?

Must have missed that.

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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: DulochConvert  
Date:   Wed 1 May 17:44

Not yet but there is a game before the Glasgow Derby.

To be fair to Rangers the Keyboard warrior are just that, last week they were sheathing at the thought of give Billy McNeil a minutes applause. The Forum was full of “I will be Singing the Billy Boys”, however my Rangers supporting colleague was telling me that almost everyone stood and gave applause. Yeah I am sure there were some that didn’t.
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 1 May 17:55

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DulochConvert, Wed 1 May 17:44

Not yet but there is a game before the Glasgow Derby.

To be fair to Rangers the Keyboard warrior are just that, last week they were sheathing at the thought of give Billy McNeil a minutes applause. The Forum was full of “I will be Singing the Billy Boys”, however my Rangers supporting colleague was telling me that almost everyone stood and gave applause. Yeah I am sure there were some that didn’t.


Sportscene showed lots of applause from the Rangers v Aberdeen game. It's impossible to be certain that every fan joined in, but why should/would they if they didn't respect the Celtic captain. Better to be honest than a hypocrite. I believe Hearts fans embarrassed themselves and their club by singing and whistling during the minute's applause. It could be a case of careful editing by the BBC, but both benches joined in, as did former Rangers manager and captain, John Greig.



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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Wed 1 May 18:11

SOUND upset on an Internet forum ? 😂😂😂
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Wed 1 May 18:27

Remember F*lkirk refusing us a guard of honour when we played them last game of the season after winning the league.

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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Wed 1 May 18:34

The sevco drones really are the lowest of the low. Some of the comments about Billy McNeil were utterly sickening. Utter utter scum.
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: sonofpetrie  
Date:   Wed 1 May 19:16

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Hummingbird Harry, Wed 1 May 14:21

You started the exact same thread last year


And all of your threads/comments are 100% original aren't they Harry. No recurring themes or anything 😏

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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Captain Desmond Fancey  
Date:   Wed 1 May 19:25

Sergio, shouldn't you just stay on Kerrydale Street forum. The bitterness is positively ripping out of you.

Maybe you'll see some of the stuff being said there about Fernando Ricksen. See, there are scum on both sides of the divide. Yes, even your one.
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Wed 1 May 19:40

Leave the whataboutery to his lot !😊

Sad to hear that about McNeil though, Iv genuinely not seen a single bad thing on this occasion thankfully
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: FRED1981  
Date:   Wed 1 May 19:47

Hummingbird seething at the thought.
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Wed 1 May 19:48

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FRED1981, Wed 01 May 19:47

Hummingbird seething at the thought.


Is that really the best you could have come up with ? 😂
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Wed 1 May 19:49

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Captain Desmond Fancey, Wed 01 May 19:25

Sergio, shouldn't you just stay on Kerrydale Street forum. The bitterness is positively ripping out of you.

Maybe you'll see some of the stuff being said there about Fernando Ricksen. See, there are scum on both sides of the divide. Yes, even your one.


Away and raffle your donut! I’m a Pars man through and through . No time at all for either of the bigot brothers. I utterly despise the sevco morons and their sickening peado patter. I despise Celtic and their IRA garbage. Scotland’s shame. The pair of them as I have stated countless times.
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Wed 1 May 19:55

Sure you are 🤫
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Boston Red Sox  
Date:   Wed 1 May 20:00

And As if by magic


Same rules apply
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Wed 1 May 20:09

Don’t feed the troll/s
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Wed 1 May 20:48

It would be the sporting thing to do. However 'honour' and class is something lacking from the Ibrox club
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Wed 1 May 21:27

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red-star-par, Wed 01 May 20:48

It would be the sporting thing to do. However 'honour' and class is something lacking from the Ibrox club


*and Celtic . You don’t want to upset the two rangers boys on here .
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Wed 1 May 21:34

" ..... i don't like the concept of a guard on honour it sends the wrong message that you are happy with being a failure"

I don't see that at all. It's the nature of sport that there are more losers than winners, but can you think of ANY other sport where the loser does not gracefully acknowledge the winner?

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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Wed 1 May 23:07

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Stanza, Wed 01 May 21:34

" ..... i don't like the concept of a guard on honour it sends the wrong message that you are happy with being a failure"

I don't see that at all. It's the nature of sport that there are more losers than winners, but can you think of ANY other sport where the loser does not gracefully acknowledge the winner?


They can’t be trusted to not stab each other when they play so how are they going to respect a guard of honour? Unfortunately we are blighted by utter vermin in our society. There was a group of sevco fan group that wanted to arrange a mass protest about the ‘peado ring’
Conspiracy for the game at Ibrox. If I for one second, thought that these mutants were showing genuine sympathy and compassion for the victims , I could easily accept that. But it’s nothing more than point scoring on a completely abhorrent level. Accusing supporters of child abuse simply because they follow a team is disgusting, pathetic and ultimately tragic. *to keep the 2 sevco boys happy. Celtic fans are also involved in scumbag behaviour.
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Thu 2 May 06:16

Just to clarify why I started this thread. The twitter notification appeared on my tablet, so I started to read through the comments. Some are absolutely hilarious. There's not a snowball's chance in hell there'll be a guard of honour, as it would almost certainly result in a near riot and extra work for the polis, so why would they ever sanction it?

Exactly the same scenario if Rangers had won the title and Celtic were being touted to give them a Guard of Honour at Parkhead. Nutters are nutters, no matter what team colours they like to wear.

As I said further up, the Guard of Honour is a long established sporting tradition in football, which recognises the achievement of a rival team, but I'd be surprised if it's ever been enacted in games involving these two clubs and God knows they've each won plenty of league titles between them. The old Corinthian spirit obviously doesn't apply to them.



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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Thu 2 May 06:50

That old Corinthian spirit depends on the decency of people to enact it.

Sadly, over a lifetime of following sport, but football in particular, I've come to accept that 'the beautiful game' attracts some of the 'ugliest' supporters.
TV coverage often has to apologise for language and abuse, their microphones pick up. Not quite in the Corinthian spirit either.

As Stanza asked, is there any other sport in which losers don't graciously acknowledge the winners.

I can't think of any. Even defeated rugby teams applaud opponents off, having just about torn each other to ribbons in rucks and mauls.

Like other areas of life, it only takes a few rotten apples to spoil a barrel and unfortunately, for whatever reason, football attracts more bad apples than other sports.
Even the barrel being bigger fails to explain the core, no pun intended, of the problem.
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Thu 2 May 07:17

"I remember us getting one from the original Rangers at EEP, many years ago. I think that they won 5-2.

matt forsyth"

Not quite. We should have had a guard of honour - it was actually matchday 2 but our first home game (v Hearts) was postponed due to them having a European tie (the first time I think that had ever happened?) - but Rangers didn't offer a guard of honour. You're right that we lost 5-2 I think though. Ivo scored a fantastic solo goal where he ran through about 4 or 5 Rangers defenders (who didn't seem to put in much of an effort to stop him mind you).
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Captain Desmond Fancey  
Date:   Thu 2 May 09:03

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Thu 2 May 09:32

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Captain Desmond Fancey, Thu 02 May 09:03

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


You got a login for FollowFollow? Cool Rangers top pal
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Thu 2 May 14:20

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FRED1981, Wed 01 May 19:47

Hummingbird seething at the thought.


Is that really the best you could have come up with ? 😂


Yawn

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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Thu 2 May 14:36

Back from your meltdown ? 😂
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Thu 2 May 15:06

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Hummingbird Harry, Thu 2 May 14:36

Back from your meltdown ? 😂


Naughty boy, you know they can't cope...

I Hope You're Ok Today....
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Thu 2 May 15:13

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Rastapari, Thu 02 May 15:06

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Hummingbird Harry, Thu 2 May 14:36

Back from your meltdown ? 😂


Naughty boy, you know they can't cope...


Can’t believe you are cosying up to that bigot. If admin had any balls they’d black card the cretin.
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Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Thu 2 May 15:15

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Rastapari, Thu 02 May 15:06

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Hummingbird Harry, Thu 2 May 14:36

Back from your meltdown ? 😂


Naughty boy, you know they can't cope...


Can’t believe you are cosying up to that bigot. If admin had any balls they’d black card the cretin.


Genuine LOL
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Thu 2 May 15:27

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SergioDuarte, Thu 02 May 15:13

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Rastapari, Thu 02 May 15:06

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Hummingbird Harry, Thu 2 May 14:36

Back from your meltdown ? 😂


Naughty boy, you know they can't cope...


Can’t believe you are cosying up to that bigot. If admin had any balls they’d black card the cretin.


Genuine LOL


Boring

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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Thu 2 May 18:26

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SergioDuarte, Thu 2 May 15:13

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Rastapari, Thu 02 May 15:06

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Hummingbird Harry, Thu 2 May 14:36

Back from your meltdown ? 😂


Naughty boy, you know they can't cope...


Can’t believe you are cosying up to that bigot. If admin had any balls they’d black card the cretin.


Triggered much?
You whoppers keep jumping in the net I'm going to keep laughing...laughing at you.

I Hope You're Ok Today....
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Thu 2 May 18:38

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SergioDuarte, Thu 2 May 15:13

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Rastapari, Thu 02 May 15:06

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Hummingbird Harry, Thu 2 May 14:36

Back from your meltdown ? 😂


Naughty boy, you know they can't cope...


Can’t believe you are cosying up to that bigot. If admin had any balls they’d black card the cretin.


Triggered much?
You whoppers keep jumping in the net I'm going to keep laughing...laughing at you.


Fill your boots mate.
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 7 May 15:07

Well it looks as if Ibrox officials have knocked the idea into touch, in spite of Kris Boyd coming out and saying it would be the classy thing to do. I believe Hearts and Killie both gave Celtic a Guard of Honour in each of the games immediately after their title wins of the last two seasons, although in Hearts case, only their goalie actually clapped them on - every other player stood with his hands behind his back.

I had a look at a thread on The Rangers fans forum and they were in a complete meltdown when someone asked the question. Stay away from it if you are offended by the C word and other assorted expletives.

I don't give a fig one way or the other, but the rage some folk work themselves into about such a trivial matter is beyond my ken.



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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Tue 7 May 15:29

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Rastapari, Thu 02 May 15:06

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Hummingbird Harry, Thu 2 May 14:36

Back from your meltdown ? 😂


Naughty boy, you know they can't cope...


Can’t believe you are cosying up to that bigot. If admin had any balls they’d black card the cretin.


Triggered much?
You whoppers keep jumping in the net I'm going to keep laughing...laughing at you.


Think you need a bigger boat Rasta the resident jungle jims are biting something awfy 😂😂😂

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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Tue 7 May 15:36

A lot of Celtic fans don’t want it either. Knowing one day (probably a long way away) they’ll have to do it back.
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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Tue 7 May 15:54

Two cheeks of the same dirty bottom !

If this is true then all that means is that today, rangers are showing who they really are, but it will be the other lot on another day...

Can't wait for the day when a euro League takes then and their fans away!
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Tue 7 May 16:23

If Celtic get a goal, I'd do a guard of honour celebration for the player that scored.

That would lighten the mood over the whole situation...

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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Tue 7 May 16:31

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DA-go Par Adonis, Tue 07 May 16:23

If Celtic get a goal, I'd do a guard of honour celebration for the player that scored.

That would lighten the mood over the whole situation...


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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Tue 7 May 17:12

Hardly surprising. The pair of them are utter scum. Sevco dont have enough class and refuse to do it because Celtic harboured a peado ring allegedly, which obviously means every player, club officials and supporter is a peado and Celtic say no because Rangers don’t exist. That’s the two biggest clubs in the country btw.
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Topic Originator: sonofpetrie  
Date:   Tue 7 May 17:43

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Hummingbird Harry, Tue 7 May 15:36

A lot of Celtic fans don’t want it either. Knowing one day (probably a long way away) they’ll have to do it back.


They'll need zimmer frames by the time that happens.

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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Tue 7 May 17:49

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sonofpetrie, Tue 07 May 17:43

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Hummingbird Harry, Tue 7 May 15:36

A lot of Celtic fans don’t want it either. Knowing one day (probably a long way away) they’ll have to do it back.


They'll need zimmer frames by the time that happens.


Oooooh am pure rajin over the Internet
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 7 May 18:23

''A lot of Celtic fans don’t want it either. Knowing one day (probably a long way away) they’ll have to do it back.''

It may not be as far away as you seem to think, HH. If Sellick don't get their next permanent manager right - and Lennon is not the answer - it could be as early as next season if Stevie G gets 2 or 3 decent additions to his squad.

I agree that a lot of Celtic fans probably don't want it - it's at best an empty gesture. There is no respect - only hatred - between the two sets of fans.

WARNING Do not click on this link if you are offended by excessive foul language......

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topic/322407-will-we-give-those-bastards-a-guard-of-honour/



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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 7 May 18:55

Even if this lunatic idea of a Guard of Honour were to be seriously contemplated I'd bet the farm that Police Scotland would not allow it under any circumstances.
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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Captain Desmond Fancey  
Date:   Wed 8 May 08:11

"There is no respect - only hatred - between the two sets of fans."

For a minority, perhaps. However, I know a lot of folk on both sides of "the divide" and they are all good pals with plenty of respect. Just have to also look at the amount of Rangers tributes at Celtic Park last week, as well as the same when Davie Cooper and Sandy Jardine both passed away.

The whole "hatred" thing is often blown up by the Press to hype what is, after all, more often than not a very average game of football between two "big" fish in a very small pond.
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Topic Originator: sonofpetrie  
Date:   Wed 8 May 08:24

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Hummingbird Harry, Tue 7 May 17:49

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sonofpetrie, Tue 07 May 17:43

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Hummingbird Harry, Tue 7 May 15:36

A lot of Celtic fans don’t want it either. Knowing one day (probably a long way away) they’ll have to do it back.


They'll need zimmer frames by the time that happens.


Oooooh am pure rajin over the Internet


C'mon HH. You are over using "rajin" now. Let's keep the standard a bit higher.

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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 8 May 08:25

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Captain Desmond Fancey, Wed 8 May 08:11

"There is no respect - only hatred - between the two sets of fans."

For a minority, perhaps. However, I know a lot of folk on both sides of "the divide" and they are all good pals with plenty of respect. Just have to also look at the amount of Rangers tributes at Celtic Park last week, as well as the same when Davie Cooper and Sandy Jardine both passed away.

The whole "hatred" thing is often blown up by the Press to hype what is, after all, more often than not a very average game of football between two "big" fish in a very small pond.


You know a lot of folk who support either Rangers or Celtic and they're all good pals.....

Trying too hard..... I've worked with professional colleagues of both persuasions and they were civil to each other most of the time, but the antipathy was palpable.



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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Captain Desmond Fancey  
Date:   Wed 8 May 08:28

Why does everything that doesn't fit in with peoples views on here always have to be seen as "trying too hard".

I can assure you I'm not trying anything as generally I never really feel like I have to justify myself, and certainly not on some two-bit football forum.

Sure I know "real" hatred exists (even though in a lot of cases they just pretend they know why they hate each other) but generally I have found far more levels of respect than I have hatred.

Sorry (not sorry) if that doesn't fit in with your experience.


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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: Parsbilly  
Date:   Wed 8 May 08:45

Topic Originator: veteraneastender |
Date: Tue 7 May 18:55

Even if this lunatic idea of a Guard of Honour were to be seriously contemplated I'd bet the farm that Police Scotland would not allow it under any circumstances.


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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Wed 8 May 09:11

I'm with CDF on this one. I know and work beside plenty of old firm fans, I'm sure we all do, and they all get along just fine. They'll have a wee but if a dig at each other regarding results but that's all. None of them take it personally.
If these colleagues of yours GG that had an antipathy towards each other were in the teaching profession then I worry about the standard of our educators in this country.

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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 8 May 10:07

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Captain Desmond Fancey, Wed 8 May 08:28

Why does everything that doesn't fit in with peoples views on here always have to be seen as "trying too hard".

I can assure you I'm not trying anything as generally I never really feel like I have to justify myself, and certainly not on some two-bit football forum.

Sure I know "real" hatred exists (even though in a lot of cases they just pretend they know why they hate each other) but generally I have found far more levels of respect than I have hatred.

Sorry (not sorry) if that doesn't fit in with your experience.


Apologies, Captain. I genuinely thought you were fishing. My experience is far removed from yours and in different walks of life. I also have a number of friends in the Glasgow area, who are normally really decent folk but undergo a Jekyll and Hyde transformation whenever there's an OF game in prospect. I'm delighted but incredulous that your OF pals are all pally wally. ☺



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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 8 May 10:13

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The One Who Knocks, Wed 8 May 09:11

I'm with CDF on this one. I know and work beside plenty of old firm fans, I'm sure we all do, and they all get along just fine. They'll have a wee but if a dig at each other regarding results but that's all. None of them take it personally.
If these colleagues of yours GG that had an antipathy towards each other were in the teaching profession then I worry about the standard of our educators in this country.


I agree it's far from ideal, TOWK, but I think it's possible to have prejudices and still be a good teacher of your subject, provided you keep those prejudices well hidden from your pupils. I wouldn't want these teachers taking classes for Social Education or even Religious and Moral Education, but there's no reason they couldn't teach e.g. Maths or French, satisfactorily.



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 Re: Guard of honour for Celtic at Ibrox?
Topic Originator: mach1  
Date:   Wed 8 May 11:28

I partly see where GG is coming from, but in my experiences such prejudices sooner or later show themselves.

Better if they were far away from being able to have an influence on youngsters who probably don't have the maturity to rationalise what they may hear, or the sense to see if and by how deep such things run, even in intelligent adults.
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Topic Originator: Captain Desmond Fancey  
Date:   Wed 8 May 11:54

"Apologies, Captain. I genuinely thought you were fishing. My experience is far removed from yours and in different walks of life. I also have a number of friends in the Glasgow area, who are normally really decent folk but undergo a Jekyll and Hyde transformation whenever there's an OF game in prospect. I'm delighted but incredulous that your OF pals are all pally wally. ☺"

Oh, don't get me wrong every one of them turns into a different beast during the matches and - for those "unfortunate" enough not to be there - the bar it's being watched in always splits into two. However, once it's all over and done with usually folk are buying each other pints and just engaging in decent banter.

Maybe it's just that I'm getting old, but I genuinely find that most of the hate is from the young team these days. Not really just an Old Firm (sorry, Glasgow Derby) issue but in general wee neds seem to be taking over our grounds.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 8 May 14:42

''I partly see where GG is coming from, but in my experiences such prejudices sooner or later show themselves.

Better if they were far away from being able to have an influence on youngsters who probably don't have the maturity to rationalise what they may hear, or the sense to see if and by how deep such things run, even in intelligent adults.''

I couldn't agree with you more, mach1, but exactly how are you going to vet newly qualified teachers? They sure aren't going to volunteer any prejudices they may harbour at the job interviews.

These prejudices are - sadly - deeply ingrained in Scottish society and children are not learning them from teachers at school in the first instance. Many of them have already been inculcated into their parents ways before they even start school. It's not unusual to see toddlers dressed in full Celtic/Rangers regalia. Go into their homes and you'll find they're also the proud owners of pyjamas, bedspreads, tracksuits, scarves etc. in either green or blue. It wouldn't matter so much for any other Scottish club, but with those two, there's a lot of 300+ year old Irish history to be learned..............



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