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 GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Sliema Par  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 17:22

One year ago I wondered why Pars players did not use Gullane to prepare for the new season.

Within days ,there was a long thread pointing out I was a dinosaur.The days of Jock Wallace getting players fit on the sand dunes had long gone,overtaken by Sports Science or some such.

Oh, just one minor point: one guess where Craig Levein and the Hearts squad are today.

Just saying!!
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: DAVEDAFC  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 17:27

Jim Jeffries did this ahead of his final season as pars boss did he not?

https://thefitbawfiles.blog/

Blog on all things Scottish football, check it out!
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 17:51

Every aspiring manager should want to be as great as Craig Levein πŸ˜†
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 18:07

Dinosaur stuff and exactly why we are light years behind the rest of the footballing world.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 18:28

How many trophies has Craig Levein won?

He’s useless
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Sliema Par  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 18:33

DAVEDAFC:I thought one of our Managers did.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 19:16

I can remember when I was a wee boy seeing the Pars players including the three Alex's, Edward's, Smith and Ferguson training on Burntisland beach when the tide was out and running after them out to the black rock. But I reckon that training on the sand dunes at Gullane is probably environmentally unfriendly since they tend to try and preserve sand dunes these days.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 19:25

You might be just saying but it's probably reaffirming what everyone already thought tbh.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Parsbilly  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 20:34

Levein has won as many trophies as me. What a visionary he is.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 20:43

When I was member of Pitreavie Athletics club donkeys years ago Jimmy Bryce used to put a large tyre around Lindsay Macdonalds waist, have a rope attached to it and hold on to it while getting her to run up the fairly steep grass verges behind the club house.

Dinosaur training methods right enough.

She did go on to win a bronze medal at the olympics though ;

Seriously, I think there are better ways of getting players fit than employing Jock Wallace methods or as it seems Craig Levein methods.

21st century methods would be a good start.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 21:07

Was her bronze not in 1980 so dinosaur methods would have been cutting edge 40 years ago πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ


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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 21:35

Back then yes...JB invited me to join his '' club '' as a 17 year old. I saw what he put LM through and I bottled it.......
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 22:16

It's potentially a great idea - if there were massive sand dunes on a football pitch.

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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 22:28

If it's good enough for Rocky, it's good enough for the Pars.

If you only turn up to moan then do it elsewhere
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 22:41

Jock Wallace was also known to give his Rangers players a dram before a game.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: renegade master  
Date:   Wed 26 Jun 23:02

Tension bands as seen being used by Andy Murray achieve the same results results, without the the risk of rolled ankles, standing in dog keech, needles and used condoms!
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 02:11

Stop training them on Kelty beach πŸ˜‰
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 07:41

Craig Levein, a guy who has been in involved in professional football for nearly 40 years and has won as many trophies as me.

A footballing dinosaur who's teams play absolutely chronic mind numbing hoof ball football. The majority of Jambos want the guy gone as manager as he's that much of a dinosaur.

The OP must actually be a parody account.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Sliema Par  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 07:59

It was not a parody.

I have no knowledge of Sports Science.

I am just intrigued that, if the methods are so clearly outdated,why one of the biggest clubs in the land still resorts to it.

As did JJ ,one of the most respected experienced Managers Dunfermline ever had.

I concede I am a Dinosaur though.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Parsbilly  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 08:16

Because their manager is a tool, it's not that hard to take in.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: The Roy Barry Fan Club  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 09:34

Just to say that Stevie Crawford made the point at the pre-season Curry evening last night that the last couple of weeks at Dunfermline have been somewhat 'old school' with lots of running and conditioning -- fully monitored by the sports scientist and the new physio.

This was underscored by the young lads who attended -- Matty Todd, Gabby McGill and Josh Coley. Seems focus has been on fitness -- with running a major feature. This in anticipation of a high pressing game.

Whether running in Fife or on Gullane Sands -- it comes to the same thing. This squad is working very hard on conditioning, fitness and strength.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 10:23

I believe that Craig Brewster looked after fitness by watching and learning by playing abroad. That's why he was still able to play until he was 40. Many Scottish players seem to be struggling in their low 30s. Alloa have a strict preseason fitness code and I think that is why they frequently scored late goals.

matt forsyth
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Bigfoot  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 13:18

With the close season being so short and players generally keeping fit, during it, the need for the such basic training is diminishing.

That said, Stephen Kenny was a pioneer of modern fitness and conditioning - and look where it go him!

Jesus saves, but Kirk nets rebound
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Sliema Par  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 14:01

eastendalloapar raises an interesting point.

I heard Jim Goodwin of Alloa Ath say,in an interview on "Sportsound" ,that Alloa players trained together for just over two hours on a Tuesday then a Thursday evening.

A) How did they score so many late goals B) How were they so fit?

As for finance: Steven Thomson asked Jim Goodwin, in January, if Alloa would be entering the Transfer Window.Jim answered their balance was Β£200!



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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Blackandwhiteblood  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 14:11

Quote:

Bigfoot, Thu 27 Jun 13:18

With the close season being so short and players generally keeping fit, during it, the need for the such basic training is diminishing.

That said, Stephen Kenny was a pioneer of modern fitness and conditioning - and look where it go him!


Aye Republic of Ireland manager

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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 14:32

I think that sports training has come on a long way. I wonder if you carried out a survey of players and athletes from the 1980s how many have problems with their knees and other joints beyond normal wear and tear. Strength and conditioning training targeted for the specific sport together with good nutrition and physio is more the modern way.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 15:54

As with any training there are pros and cons and this short article seems to cover the key ones although I'm not too sure if sunburn will be as big an issue for us:

https://southflaortho.com/pros-and-cons-of-running-on-the-beach/

Its certainly not a daft idea but there may well be less risky ways of training that deliver the same increased work out benefits. If a team is on a small budget, beach training might well be the best option.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: 7 Eleven  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 16:23

Berwick Rangers trained at Gullane sands last pre-season. I bet with hindsight that they wish they spent that time on the pitch!

You couldnae make it up... oh, many already have!
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 16:40

Apparently Jim Goodwin gave all the team a training routine at the start of the season. I don't think many players would want to get on his wrong side.

matt forsyth
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 16:55

Quote:

7 Eleven, Thu 27 Jun 16:23

Berwick Rangers trained at Gullane sands last pre-season. I bet with hindsight that they wish they spent that time on the pitch!


Fair point 🀣
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 17:09

A one time session on Gullane might be good for team bonding and just a change of scenery (im not giving Levein that much credit tho) - Some good runs then some forfeit challenges in the sea and a little laughter in the tough pre-season might be just what the Doctor (or sports scientist) ordered

Its all about balance

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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 27 Jun 20:41

Try it in full firefighting kit, though training school is no longer there!πŸš’πŸš’πŸš’
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: Sydney Pars Fan  
Date:   Fri 28 Jun 12:26

Lochgelly Albert I also remember the dunes during my time at Gullane, but can never remember running up them in fire kit! It was almost 30 years ago though!!
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 28 Jun 12:49

Common practice when I was there in 73, believe that they were still doing it up till 77.
Would think health & safety came into play after that.
A lot of it was sponsored for charity.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Fri 28 Jun 13:17

When Klopp, Pochettino and Guardiola are using this as a training method, that's when we can take it seriously.

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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: cumbrian par  
Date:   Sat 29 Jun 11:38

Stephen Pressley has got his Carlisle United squad running up and down the sand dunes near Blackpool this morning. He’s joining in, to be fair.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Sat 29 Jun 12:26

Both Levein and now Pressley? Being a bell end must be popular at Tynecastle.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Sat 29 Jun 12:59

Quote:

DA-go Par Adonis, Wed 26 Jun 22:16

It's potentially a great idea - if there were massive sand dunes on a football pitch.


Hmmmm.... Starks park and Tannadice ?😊

East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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 Re: GULLANE SANDS
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Sat 29 Jun 13:01

Quote:

cumbrian par, Sat 29 Jun 11:38

Stephen Pressley has got his Carlisle United squad running up and down the sand dunes near Blackpool this morning. He’s joining in, to be fair.


Guid auld pishy dune shoes

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