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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Fri 1 Nov 06:02
There's a comment on P&B that loanee Anthony Macdonald's not going to be playing for us at all and has returned to Tynecastle, so it seems that we still have a significant problem on our left wing.
Crawford opted for the experience of McDonald over the creativity and speed of young Vinnie Steels when selecting his fourth loan for the summer. With hindsight, that's turned out to be a mistake.
That leaves us with young Josh Coley as our only out-and-out left-winger, with McCann and Kiltie as (out of position) options to fill that slot. TBH, none is ideal.
Come January, we should be looking to permanently sign a left-winger as it is imperative that we have a balance on the attacking flanks. A left-footed clone of Dow would be perfect.
Kiltie has thankfully improved of late and is linking better with Dow, Nisbet and Ryan, but I am not all that taken with Cochrane. All-in-all, Stevie's dealings in the loan market have been fairly ordinary.
In contrast, with very few exceptions, he's done pretty well with the permanent summer signings. The majority of them are settling well and starting to make very good progress.
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Fri 1 Nov 07:00
We don’t play with any wingers. Dow and whoever is on the left are usually more inside than being on the wing.
i fully agree that we need to add width to the team
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Fri 1 Nov 07:23
Of course, Dow is a winger. He's one of the most effective right-wingers for the Pars since Ian McCall and that is going back a wee while. Sure, he's going to cut inside now and again, but so did the best wingers ever to play in Britain - Jimmy Johnstone and Stanley Matthews...
EDIT: I added Sir Stanley just so I don't upset the auld pedants.
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Post Edited (Fri 01 Nov 07:26)
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Fri 1 Nov 07:40
Wouldn't be surprised if Cochrane is also recalled so the new manager whoever it may be can have a look.
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 1 Nov 07:49
''Crawford opted for the experience of McDonald over the creativity and speed of young Vinnie Steels when selecting his fourth loan for the summer. With hindsight, that's turned out to be a mistake.''
McDonald's only 18 so he's hardly 'experienced'. How was SC supposed to anticipate that the minor injury he was carrying when he signed would turn out to be more complicated? Presumably Hearts didn't anticipate this either. Not everything that happens in football is predictable but bad luck is.
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Fri 1 Nov 07:59
Pars had the foresight to ensure that aren’t paying his wages while he is out with this injury - sure I read that a while ago?
Also sure SC said recently that he was close to fitness?
Him, Thomson and Murray returning adds a lot of depth to the squad with all 3 likely first choice when fully fit.
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Fri 1 Nov 09:17
McDonald said on twitter a couple weeks back he was close to getting back. Maybe he's had another setback since then or this could just be part of the rumour mill, annoying as I think he would compliment our attacking options nicely. If not I'm sure we're looking at other options to come in. We aren't paying his wage right now so that's good at least
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 1 Nov 09:55
On Pie and Bovril = the truth
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 1 Nov 11:54
Quote:
OzPar, Fri 1 Nov 06:02
There's a comment on P&B that loanee Anthony Macdonald's not going to be playing for us at all and has returned to Tynecastle, so it seems that we still have a significant problem on our left wing.
Crawford opted for the experience of McDonald over the creativity and speed of young Vinnie Steels when selecting his fourth loan for the summer. With hindsight, that's turned out to be a mistake.
That leaves us with young Josh Coley as our only out-and-out left-winger, with McCann and Kiltie as (out of position) options to fill that slot. TBH, none is ideal.
Come January, we should be looking to permanently sign a left-winger as it is imperative that we have a balance on the attacking flanks. A left-footed clone of Dow would be perfect.
Kiltie has thankfully improved of late and is linking better with Dow, Nisbet and Ryan, but I am not all that taken with Cochrane. All-in-all, Stevie's dealings in the loan market have been fairly ordinary.
In contrast, with very few exceptions, he's done pretty well with the permanent summer signings. The majority of them are settling well and starting to make very good progress.
Vinnie is avaliable still i think he would be a good signing
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Fri 1 Nov 12:53
I read that their under 23 team is unbeaten all season in 13 matches?
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Topic Originator: USMac
Date: Fri 1 Nov 15:27
Oz, Dow has done really well for us on the right wing, but I don't think he's an out and out winger. I thought in the past he had played all over the front line or in behind the striker.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 2 Nov 08:31
Yeah, not sure Dow is an out and out winger either. Doing a good decent job the now but never seems to be out on the touch line and the team has no width.
Coley is too raw, this level of football is too high for him so feels like a wasted loan but kiltie is starting to show up well but has very little pace.
Given the talk about Cochran’s I expected more, no physical presence and posted missing for large parts of games. Hasn’t offered anything so far.
Would like to see us loan in some experience instead of blooding other teams raw youngsters at the same time as our own so the team ends up too raw and inexperienced at this level.
Just sitting here drenched in my own negativity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 2 Nov 08:44
Berkey, where are these mythical midfield players you are always coveting who are physical, mobile, skilful, quick, and street-wise? If there any around I suspect they are playing at a much higher level than the Scottish Championship. You don't seem to appreciate that managers at our level have to compromise when considering the attributes of the players within their budget.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sat 2 Nov 08:55
Is it a coincidence that imo we have been at our best this season when Coley has been on the park? I'm thinking first half against Dundee and second half against Ayr.Whilst the end product hasn't always been there he offers an outlet to get us up the park and stay there and offers us balance.It's a surprise to me that he has only started 3 games. I think he can still offer plenty during the rest of the season particularly against teams playing a high defensive line.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 2 Nov 10:33
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parathletic, Sat 2 Nov 08:55
Is it a coincidence that imo we have been at our best this season when Coley has been on the park? I'm thinking first half against Dundee and second half against Ayr.Whilst the end product hasn't always been there he offers an outlet to get us up the park and stay there and offers us balance.It's a surprise to me that he has only started 3 games. I think he can still offer plenty during the rest of the season particularly against teams playing a high defensive line.
It's no coincidence. Coley has bags of talent and is very quick, a combination defenders hate. Yes, his end product and decision making are not yet at the same level as his skills, but the coaching staff have a player they can develop and improve. It's just a pity he's not our player, but perhaps if he does well, he may want to stay with us and Norwich will be prepared to release him at the end of his contract.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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