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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 14:24
The Pars lineup today is:
Dunfermline v Alloa Athletic
1 Ryan Scully (GK)
2 Aaron Comrie
6 Lee Ashcroft
4 Lewis Martin
24 Josh Edwards
11 Ryan Dow
21 Paul Paton (c)
12 Kyle Turner
38 Greg Kiltie
10 Andy Ryan
15 Kevin Nisbet
Subs v Alloa Athletic
20 Cammy Gill (GK)
7 Joe Thompson
8 Tom Beadling
9 Gabby McGill
14 Danny Devine
23 Harry Cochrane
27 Lewis McCann
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 9 Nov 14:30
Starting to look a settled team now. COYP
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 9 Nov 14:32
great to see Joe Thomson on the bench
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sat 9 Nov 14:34
Jesus Christ.
Where's Fenton?
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 14:35
LOL
:)
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 9 Nov 14:44
A good choice of players on the bench also
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:17
Penalty for Alloa.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:17
1-0
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:18
Anyone have a view on whether that was/wasn't a pen?
Alloa players didn't seem to be looking for it.
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Topic Originator: Livingston Par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:19
Have we had a pen yet this season?
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:22
Does it matter, we normally miss.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:27
Pars conversion rate on penalties is just over 1% higher than the average over the last 30 years: 78.4% as opposed to 77.3%.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:31
Not including recent seasons, obviously.
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Topic Originator: plainview
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:32
Alloa playing well, we really need to up the tempo to get into this game. Edwards making a lot of errors so far, including the mistake leading to the pen.
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Topic Originator: Livingston Par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:32
We have one now!
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Topic Originator: 1957Par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:32
Nisbet from the spot.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:33
Quote:
Swisspar, Sat 9 Nov 15:22
Does it matter, we normally miss.
😂😂😂😂😂
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:33
Penalty for Pars!
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:33
Told you...
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:33
1-1 Nisbet
:)
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:34
Scored.
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Topic Originator: Livingston Par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:34
Have we had two in one game this season? ;)
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:40
Happy to be wrong (sometimes 😀!)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:45
Swisspar, can you say we never score 6?
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:49
Is that not pushing it a bit? Ok, we never score 6 ! Here's hoping....
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Topic Originator: plainview
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:50
Better after our pen, couple good chances with Dow missing his kick from a cutback just near the end of the half. Looked like there were maybe a couple of pen shouts in the rammy there?
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Topic Originator: Livingston Par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 15:51
We never score 6? Not since July anyway :)
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:01
Alloa using the pitch properly, passing it around with pace and always moving (they managed to get out a few tight spots by passing it in little triangles) while we were trying to get it in behind into the corners. Not sure that was working and after Alloa scored their penalty (Edwards with the initial error, but the reaction of the Pars players suggested it was either a slip or a dive?) we went to pieces somewhat. We got a bit of luck with the equalizing penalty (Ttouten dangling a leg and Nisbet going over it which was a bit soft and I'd have to check a replay to see if it was in the box or just outside) and we've been a bit better since then. Hopefully we can move the ball a bit quicker in the second half and 2 more goals woklt be good since I have a couple of quid on Nisbet anytime and 3-1 Pars...
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Topic Originator: plainview
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:12
Defo pen for handball there with the new rules... refs bottled it
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:13
100% handball in the box.
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Topic Originator: Livingston Par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:20
Aye swings and roundabouts eh.....not
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:23
Arbroath 2-0 on ICT.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:28
Nick a goal + other scores hold and the league becomes incredibly tight.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:30
Very poor defending.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:33
Let's see some subs!
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:34
Awful. They have had much more of the ball and have passed it about while our midfield looks either knackered, overrun or both. There should have been a sub made about 15 minutes ago but still we are persisting with this same guff. It's one step forward, two steps back at the moment. Absolutely basic stuff and then to lose that second goal with no pressure on the cross and nobody tracking the runner was something you'd be annoyed at in amateur football. You have to come to places like Alloa and work hard at 5he basics to earn the right to play and we have just turned up expecting the three points.
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Topic Originator: Livingston Par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:36
3 points would have been really good today given ICT are losing.
Post Edited (Sat 09 Nov 16:36)
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:43
James Brown used to fine his band whenever any of them played a bum note.
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:54
Too many bum notes today.
Alloa didn't have to play well to get their goals. They just had to be hungry and smart.
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Topic Originator: purekozma
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:57
3 points from trapdoor again
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Topic Originator: plainview
Date: Sat 9 Nov 16:58
I thought we were unfortunate to lose. We created quite a lot but their players defended well throwing themselves in front of many shots. Their goalkeeper also had a good game with a standout save from a Nisbet effort. We also should have had a pen for handball at 1-1.
Two defensive errors today have cost us, apart from that they created very little. Alloa just seem to be a team that we really struggle to beat.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 9 Nov 17:01
Quote:
purekozma, Sat 9 Nov 16:57
3 points from trapdoor again
5 off the bottom
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 9 Nov 17:17
Really disappointing after producing a few decent results recently. We shouldn’t be losing to teams like Alloa if we hope to climb the table. Today was a big chance to catch the likes of Inverness and Ayr.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 9 Nov 17:20
In a league full of inconsistent or bang average teams, we are one of them.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 17:23
Against a part time team.I do not get it,honestly! 🤬🤬
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 9 Nov 17:28
Quote:
RossF, Sat 9 Nov 17:17
Really disappointing after producing a few decent results recently. We shouldn’t be losing to teams like Alloa if we hope to climb the table. Today was a big chance to catch the likes of Inverness and Ayr.
Biggest pile of pihs I've ever seen. In all honesty why shouldn't we be loosing to a team like Alloa. Surely if they player better than us and score more goals then they should beat us?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 9 Nov 17:35
What Kelty said - Alloa played the much better football, knocking it around with some purpose, while we huffed and puffed.
As for being part time - Flanagan strolled through the game in midfield.
Today's performance is proof, if any were needed, that we are a mediocre side in an average league.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 9 Nov 17:36
Quote:
twin par, Sat 9 Nov 17:23
Against a part time team.I do not get it,honestly! 🤬🤬
Why is that? Being a part time player doesn't mean you're mince.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 17:48
Yes,your right,it doesn't make them mince.But being full time should make us a lot sharper, and a yard faster.
Post Edited (Sat 09 Nov 17:53)
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 9 Nov 17:56
Half way through the second half we got a corner - and contrived to knock it back to Scully in 3 passes.
Sums up today's performance.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 9 Nov 17:58
Read the full sentence Cammy. If we want to ‘climb the table’ we shouldn’t be losing to them. Alloa’s aim this season is purely to stay up and we should be aiming for playoffs. We have a drawn and lost to them which is unacceptable if we are aiming for a playoff position. Today was a big chance to make up ground and we blew it. Hopefully we can get some results in the coming weeks and get a decent cup run to allow us to strengthen in January.
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Sat 9 Nov 17:59
A lot of part-time footballers are good enough to play for the Pars, but make too good a living outside football.
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 18:00
I thought that the Alloa goalkeeper was excellent today.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 9 Nov 18:04
Fair play to Alloa they had a plan - we didn't.
They were happy to knock the ball over the back 4 and move it quickly forward when the opportunity presented itself, usually with some basic one touch passing. It was very effective we just couldn't get the ball of them. Whenever we did we couldn't hold onto it & build any momentum.
Needed a lot more from the midfield today should probably have went for 433.
Frustrating.........
MotM Flanagan - Could have played that with a cigar, absolutely strolled it.
🔩 ya 🚀
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Topic Originator: FRED1981
Date: Sat 9 Nov 18:05
The way it's going seems it's the other way round our aim is to stay up.
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Sat 9 Nov 18:17
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sat 9 Nov 17:56
Half way through the second half we got a corner - and contrived to knock it back to Scully in 3 passes.
Sums up today's performance.
I actually thought it was 2 VEE !
We made enough chances to win that game tho ,without playing anywhere near out best .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: bournetobeapar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 18:38
Crawford tactics were dire, if indeed there WERE any tactics. Playing head tennis is completely and utterly futile, it gains no advantage and more often than not, we lose possession.
Alloa came out with a game plan today, Dunfermline didn’t. Scully was at fault for the 2nd goal, give the gloves back to Cammy please.
Never steal; the govermnent hates competition
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Sat 9 Nov 18:54
Thought the big number 5 strolled it today, won everything for Alloa. Our middle of the park was poor and Edwards had a mare.
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Topic Originator: GG4
Date: Sat 9 Nov 19:17
Graham no.5 & Flannigan no.11 would walk into our team and improve it. Graham in particular has impressed ecery time I have seen Alloa play. Flannigan is box to box and has a pass on him. Worth keeping an eye on him for sure.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 9 Nov 19:31
Well there's not much to say about that crap we were served up today !
recently we have played good football and on the deck !! today it was normal service resumed , high balls and head tennis , I still cannot get my head round why we would play high balls to Andy Ryan when their number 5 was a giant and won everything in the air ,
well recently the Pars have took the plaudits for playing good football , today they have to take the criticism , Edwards had a nightmare today , Andy Ryan non existent , Turner should have scored Ashcroft should have done better with the free headers he got
And For me Scully was at fault for the goal !! He had an eternity to come and collect or at least come and put the player off !!
Too many players today were crap , is it because they thought they just had to turn up ?? we allowed Alloa to dictate things we gave them all the time and room they needed , We should have been right in their faces like they did to us ,
Then i come home and read craws remarks about frustration in the dressing room and another chance lost to climb the league and he cannot fault the effort and commitment the boys gave today , what game was he watching ??
Our midfield were totally outrun because Alloa had an extra man in there plus Turner and Paton were non existent , The manager should have noticed this and changed our system , To be fair to all players I have criticized, in their defense I do not know any of our players that got a pass mark today
And as usual subs on too late !!
the only highlight of the game for me was the final whistle
We need a Keeper in the transfer window as both goalkeepers we have are just not good enough !!
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Topic Originator: Scrimmers249
Date: Sat 9 Nov 19:31
Remember Alloa are a useful teams and not many go there and get a result... ask Dundee United
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 9 Nov 19:49
Wow wulliepar57 .... no punches pulled there
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sat 9 Nov 20:06
There wasn't too much in the game, with Alloa playing the better football but Dunfermline having more chances. It was a bit like the home game against Ayr, just that things ran in our favour that day while today they didn't. We didn't play at all well but on another day would have won that - so it goes when teams are closely matched. Both penalties looked pretty soft to me while the winner was an absolute joke of a goal to lose - just didn't react to a quickly taken corner and never really managed to get organised from then on leading to the free run round the back.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 9 Nov 20:14
Correct Buspasspar , Just gave my honest reflection on what i saw today !!!
I have praised the team on their efforts of late so now it's the other side of the coin criticism ,
I do not care if folk say it's a hard place to go etc etc that's only an excuse !
What i do expect is our players to put some effort into the game and in my opinion too many passengers on show today !
Getting beat i can take if our players had bust a gut and chased the opposition down and put a shift in ,but when i do not see any of our players putting in the effort and chasing opposition players down it's hard to comprehend ,
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 21:20
I agree.Player's need to get the bust a gut attitude. It's so frustrating, getting one good result, then two bad.Every Saturday, I need a new television, watching away games on sky updates!
Post Edited (Sun 10 Nov 00:16)
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 9 Nov 21:55
Is that because you're putting your foot through it twin par? It would be cheaper kicking the cat but maybe cruelty to animals is even worse. I remember a friend of mine threw his TV out the window after an adverse result.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 9 Nov 22:05
No definitely TV's fault.😃
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 9 Nov 22:43
None of the games in our league today were predictable. Apart from the fact that they were all home wins, who would have predicted Arbroath beating Inverness 3-0 or QoS cuffing Ayr? Partick beat Morton with 10 men for most of the second half. None of these results were a foregone conclusion. We just have to keep going. Every game this weekend has been a three pointer, with no draws so we have lost ground against 5 teams.
We didn't beat Alloa but we can beat Ayr in the next game. As Boris often says, "let's just do it, let's get it done" (beat Ayr that is, not Brexit).
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 9 Nov 23:04
I didn't think there was any lack of effort or lack of attitude. I don't even think it was down to poor tactics. We conceded two soft goals and weren't clinical enough with the chances we created. As everyone knows the line between winning and losing in this league is a fine one.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 9 Nov 23:30
Wee Eck I always respect your opinions on the games as you are like me, try to give an honest view yes it was two soft goals and with the penalty the ref evened it out as he knew he made a mistake with theirs , and yes we weren't clinical enough , but i still stick by my view that we didn't chase the Alloa players down enough , we stood too far back from them and allowed them to come at us , where in my view in recent games we were right on top of other teams and right in their faces not allowing them any time on the ball , where today we sat off them , and for the second goal we were undone by a quick corner ( we were sleeping) and i still think Ryan Scully should have been out to either get the ball or make it difficult for the opposition player to direct a header on target !!
But at the end of the day no matter what any of us think or say we got beat
so it's move on to the next game and hope lessons were learnt today
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 9 Nov 23:55
I was down the other end, wullie, but I did think Scully could have done better at the winning goal but it was a catalogue of errors.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 10 Nov 00:26
Quote:
twin par, Sat 9 Nov 17:48
Yes,your right,it doesn't make them mince.But being full time should make us a lot sharper, and a yard faster.
Why?
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sun 10 Nov 00:36
Extra time on training.And that's from an ex pars player.Having trained at pitreavie,for a number of years,I can assure you running,five nights a week,made you a damn site fitter,than a guy that ran just at weekends.
Post Edited (Sun 10 Nov 00:40)
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sun 10 Nov 01:40
scully totally at fault for 2nd goal . we just don,t have a decent keeper
G.B
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 10 Nov 03:15
Quote:
twin par, Sun 10 Nov 00:36
Extra time on training.And that's from an ex pars player.Having trained at pitreavie,for a number of years,I can assure you running,five nights a week,made you a damn site fitter,than a guy that ran just at weekends.
And what makes you think part time professional footballers at this level only run at weekends?
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Sun 10 Nov 08:01
Quote:
Buspasspar, Sat 9 Nov 19:49
Wow wulliepar57 .... no punches pulled there
Loved the first sentence, then wow just wow, dinny haud back Willie
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sun 10 Nov 08:26
Quote:
twin par, Sun 10 Nov 00:36
Extra time on training.And that's from an ex pars player.Having trained at pitreavie,for a number of years,I can assure you running,five nights a week,made you a damn site fitter,than a guy that ran just at weekends.
This.
I Hope You're Ok Today....
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sun 10 Nov 08:32
"scully totally at fault for 2nd goal . we just don,t have a decent keeper"
There were three mistakes for the goal, not just Scully being rooted to his line; we didn't close down the cross after the short corner and then how Coley was able to run 20 yards and end up totally free 2 yards from goal is criminal. Scully should have done better but he's got every right to be asking why the guy was free so close to goal.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sun 10 Nov 08:42
Agreed the covering was brutal as it was on both flanks throughout the game , Scully should at the very least went for the ball , as before we do need a competent Keeper in January
G.B
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Topic Originator: dpard
Date: Sun 10 Nov 08:50
Quite simply not good enough yesterday. Although, despite the fact we played poorly, we created enough chances to win.
Alloa's pen was a joke of a decision but Edwards has to do so much better. (In saying that, I know some Alloa fans were convinced ours was a pen.)
The midfield as has been mentioned was poor and changes should've been made early. Paton especially was struggling, mainly imo to a knock on the knee in the first half which seemed to restrict him. Turner was poor also but I don't quite get the fanfare over Flannigan.
No one from Alloa particularly stood out but they certainly work together as a unit.
For all those saying it's a difficult place to go, Alloa have only picked up 8pts from a possible 21 at home this season!
The flame still burns
Post Edited (Sun 10 Nov 08:50)
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 10 Nov 11:51
“Quote:
twin par, Sat 9 Nov 17:48
Yes,your right,it doesn't make them mince.But being full time should make us a lot sharper, and a yard faster.
Why?”
If there is no advantage to being full time why don’t we just go part time then? Games like yesterday are the ones we should be winning regardless of all the nonsense excuses people are making. And if we can’t win games like that then we should get in a ‘real’ manager who can get us winning them.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 10 Nov 12:14
Quote:
The Boss, Sun 10 Nov 11:51
“Quote:
twin par, Sat 9 Nov 17:48
Yes,your right,it doesn't make them mince.But being full time should make us a lot sharper, and a yard faster.
Why?”
If there is no advantage to being full time why don’t we just go part time then? Games like yesterday are the ones we should be winning regardless of all the nonsense excuses people are making. And if we can’t win games like that then we should get in a ‘real’ manager who can get us winning them.
There are many positives of being full time and over the season it should be an advantage but fitness isn't one of them. Part time players nowadays spend as much time in the gym as full timers. There is also the matter of natural metabolism. There are part time players in opposing teams who don't need to train as much as full timers to maintain superior levels of fitness. Ill give you a couple of examples...a part time Owen Coyle or Hamish French would wipe still the floor in a fitness test, with most full timers at our level.
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Topic Originator: Inchkeithpar
Date: Sun 10 Nov 12:40
Edwards has had a shocker there leading to their penalty
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 10 Nov 12:54
''If there is no advantage to being full time why don’t we just go part time then? Games like yesterday are the ones we should be winning regardless of all the nonsense excuses people are making. And if we can’t win games like that then we should get in a ‘real’ manager who can get us winning them.''
It's not just us. By your argument all the full-time teams in the Championship should have taken full points from Alloa and Arbroath and these two teams should be marooned at the foot of the table scrapping for points from themselves. Why do you think that hasn't happened?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 10 Nov 13:17
Anyone who calls themselves The Boss can't be taken seriously
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Sun 10 Nov 13:55)
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Sun 10 Nov 15:08
I cannot understand why we were not given a penalty in the second half. At the time it was a clear penalty and why the assistant referee did not put his flag up I've no idea. The slow motion replay shows the ball hit the player and then puts his hand in a position to control the ball. We have had penalties given against us for less.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sun 10 Nov 15:21
As our man in Alloa, eastendalloapar, I think you should be ashamed of yourself and any payments you may have received to spy on the opposition camp to pass on vital information about their players should be returned to DAFC. Because it obviously did not work. And maybe you are rubbing your hands secretly in glee because your home team got the win.
Post Edited (Sun 10 Nov 15:24)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 10 Nov 15:27
Isn't there an interpretation of the handball law now that if the ball comes off one part of a player's body and hits his arm/hand it's not a foul? I don't see why that should make a difference but the handball law in general doesn't make sense to me now.
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Sun 10 Nov 15:41
Paralex, I have no great love of Alloa, I was not born in the town, I only live here. Indeed I am originally from Dollar and as such look down on everyone else, LOL. Apart from the afternoon when Alloa opened the new stand and a cup tie against Aberdeen the only time I have been at Recs has been to see DAFC. The one thing that I am jealous about Alloa is the money that the club has. Hopefully we will beat them when they next visit EEP
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sun 10 Nov 17:10
Oh, a Dollar Academy boy, very posh!! Just make sure you get your spying info right next time or find out where their star striker lives and rattle a few cans together outside his house all night before the game.
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Sun 10 Nov 19:38
No, my dad got promoted so I left Dollar when I was 2. Thereby breaking my mums heart that I wouldn't be going to the posh school. 💔
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles
Date: Mon 11 Nov 01:24
The Goalkeeping position has been a worry for a while now, probably since Murdoch got that injury. Scully isn't the answer and he looks like he has regressed big time since his last time here. Gill looks promising but still looks a bit raw for my liking.
That's a few games this season where keeper errors or the Goalie simply being weak has cost us.
Before anyone starts Robinson ain't the answer either.
Awight Pat!
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