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 Crawford
Topic Originator: incognito  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 16:48

I get that he will be given time to build his team and chance to get it in place however we have scrapped through our wins unconvincedely how long does he actually get before the board have to make a decision?
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 16:50

Too long obviously ,
I haven't seen much of late to say we are getting better under him
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 16:53

Charlatan.
We are pi5h.

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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: broontroot  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 16:58

Not advertising the job and giving it to Stevie hasn't worked, I wasnt happy at the time but I was prepared to get behind him and give him a chance .

Hes had his chance, time to move him on and get someone else in
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:01

Enough is enough for me. Awful result and performance and financially an absolute disaster.
Go Now.

Awight Pat!
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:02

We can't keep on changing manager, the chairman is the man making the decisions is he the right man to now take the club forward.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:02

He does not have a clue
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:06

I won’t be back until he’s gone. We were never winning that . Worse than last season. The man is an absolute snake and should never have been even near the job.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Pars Athletic  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:07

Crawford out. We are going nowhere under this clown
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:07

Im sure his after game interview will be like the one At Alloa
where we say we had chances to win the game but our forwards weren't clinical enough etc etc etc
my thoughts go out to all who traveled there (well done )
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:09

He’s going nowhere as long as we’re above the relegation zone. Farce.

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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:11

I backed him previously but that’s it, he has to go now.

It’s inevitable he will surely, it’s just when, I foresee the same thing happening with AJ where it happens far too late.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Hay Fever  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:11

That’s a disaster today, not just for the team and fans but financially. Only chance to bring in a few quid with a run and he’s blew it. Any company and that’s a sackable offence!!
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:13

Not even a shot on target today, pathetic. Crawford not got an absolute clue, stands with his arms folded and never looks animated on the touchline, all the way down for that today the players couldn’t give two ***** either not an ounce of effort
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:14

Crawford has been suspect all season - some of his tactical choices in playing players out of position have been nothing short of weird. I mean who else but him would move a striker out of position to the right wing and leave a right winger on the bench?? I was happy when he arrived but there seems to be a serious lack of motivation around the players and that falls entirely on his doorstep!! Now we are out of the cup losing the opportunity of playing PL teams and facing dwindling support as folk don’t bother coming to watch rubbish!! Time to push the boat out, move on and get someone that we can all get excited about!
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:14

Unacceptable today. Unfortunately it's not working with Stevie, sad to say that enough is enough and he has to go.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:15

McArthur is the real issue, doesn't have a clue about picking a manager
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:15

I don't think there is much inspiration coming from the management. Need someone with a bit of oomph about them
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:16

Is anybody really surprised at this result ?

Had the proverbial banana skin look about it, and so it came to be.

Taxi for Crawford - and not just based on this result.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Bod1004  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:18

Opportunity lost today, win and hope to get a decent team away and make some cash, really do not know where we are going this season, seems to be no structure to our play, or tactical awareness of what’s going on during the game
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: GS_Pars  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:18

Anyone got some names of is could come in/is available just now?
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Parallel Lines  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:21

Dick Campbell

I looked for my pet in all the books on animals and birds and then I found it in the Book of Revelations.Marty Feldman
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:22

At the time when Stevie was appointed Everyone here was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and so was I , to see if he could change our fortunes ,
Whatever his Ideas are they are definitely not working , and he's not the type who can inspire confidence into the team, so before It's too late get him away
Although Unfortunately I'm sure he will be here for a while yet
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: dannorm  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:23

What he said ☝️☝️
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:26

Time Ross stepped down as chairman, poor decision after poor decision. We won't progress as a club under Crawford. Should have been a reaction today after the Alloa match.....
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:31

Bring in John Hughes and let him get on with it. This squad is more than capable of doing well. They just need a right good kick up the jacksie. It is absolutely clear now that Stevie is just not the man for the job.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:35

That’s it for me, I’ll not be back until he’s gone and a proper tactician that can give us a bit of dig is put in charge.

Shambles the amount that turn up to EEP week in week out and we are struggling in the Championship that contains two part-time teams, whilst also getting parped out the Scottish Cup by part-timers therefore losing viral cash flow. There is no excuse.

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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:36

John Hughes is most definitely not the solution. Man is a buffoon.

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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: steaua  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:37

Do you honestly think Ross McArthur picks the manager? Well I was unfer the impression it was the Board of Directors who made that decision.



Post Edited (Sat 23 Nov 17:37)
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: dover par  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 17:49

If you Believe that Steaua then you must believe in Santa Clause.

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 18:00

Quote:

steaua, Sat 23 Nov 17:37

Do you honestly think Ross McArthur picks the manager? Well I was unfer the impression it was the Board of Directors who made that decision.


Hi Steaua, you can't be happy with the present team and management.
They have to go.

BCM
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: steaua  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 18:08

I am not happy and especially the result today. I have always loved the Scottish Cup probably due to our two high points from the 60's when we won the cup twice. I had high hopes for today, so basically as I wasn't there I cannot comment on the game itself. Totally gutted.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 18:22

Was a bit sceptical on his appointment , thought it looked like another appointment like that of John Potter, only this has turned out as bad if not worse . And allowing him to appoint the manager of a mediocre Fife junior club as his assistant (who just happens to be his mate ) shows how far of the mark our chairman and B.O.D are.
we are spiralling downwards and need a leader at the helm not an old pals act.

G.B
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 18:24

I like Shields’ outlook in terms of youth development but we need a new manager pronto.

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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 18:31

That was fekin brutal today! Out the cup and no extra income. Embarrassing stuff.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 18:38

What disturbs me is the lack of passion from the players.That goes back to management motivation. Enough said.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 18:40

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OzPar, Sat 23 Nov 17:31

Bring in John Hughes and let him get on with it. This squad is more than capable of doing well. They just need a right good kick up the jacksie. It is absolutely clear now that Stevie is just not the man for the job.


Watch his wee team relegation video and have a wee think ffs

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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 18:44

I'd rather stick with what we have than go for Hughes.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 18:46

Hughes has forgot more about being a manager than Crawford will ever know. His record is very good apart from his stint at rovers, who were already a sinking ship. What he said in the interview was spot on about the players at the time.. they had a team full of charlatans.. much like we have now.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Dafc1996  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 18:48

We seem to be getting on Crawfords back..... All these names and disrespectful insults.... Yes maybe the jobs not working for him and many of us seen this coming, but maybe he's not the right man for the job but at the end of the day he never appointed himself manager surely the anger should be vented at those who appointed him.. I don't think for one moment he is not trying his hardest to do a good job its just not working.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 18:53

You cannot be serious. The mans an absolute dinosaur

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 19:09

Crawford had a vision for the club and got the job.
It hasn’t worked!
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 19:16

3rd with Inverness (highest ever finish), 2 cup finals with Inverness winning one of them, Took hibs into Europe. Football writers manager of the year, PFA manager of the year. He is without doubt a better option than Crawford, who has just overseen defeats to Arbroath, alloa & Stranraer.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 19:20

"Do you honestly think Ross McArthur picks the manager? Well I was unfer the impression it was the Board of Directors who made that decision."

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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 19:21

Hughes is an awful shout. Guy is a caveman.

Awight Pat!
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 19:30

You have to wonder why John Hughes has been out of football management for so long.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Scrimmers249  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 19:50

John Hughes..... jesus there has to be a better alternative than that absolute babbling buffoon
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 19:58

Quote:

Frank Butchers LoveHandles, Sat 23 Nov 19:21

Hughes is an awful shout. Guy is a caveman.


Dick Campbell too?

If you only turn up to moan then do it elsewhere
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: nightboat  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 20:14

No true PARS fan would want Hughes at EEP. The facts are that Crawford isn’t up to it and must be replaced by a manager that know the championship and Dunfermline.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 20:20

Would take any of Stewart Petrie, Darren Young, Dick Campbell. Be as well speculating the next man as Crawford is on borrowed time. Just a matter of when and not if McArthur gives him the sack.

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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: FRED1981  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 20:24

Just heard Crawford post match interview it's as inspiring as his management and tactics.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 20:29

Disgraceful result today following on from getting hammered by Raith last season, getting beat by Edinburgh City at the start of the season and losing to Alloa last week, a terrible performance.

Crawford must go now! The post match interview was laughable he is really so far out of his depth. We have lost another opportunity to bring in revenue through and inept performance. Losing to Stranraer seriously ffs! I have no confidence in us beating anyone tbh. I don’t really see much improvement over the last few weeks. We have better players this year - was that down to MacNamara?

I would look at Ian Murray, Darren Youngand Danny Lennon as options (definitely John Hughes 😱). Is Potch still free lol.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: KirklistonPar  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 20:34

Players need to step up to the plate as well, they have proved that they have the ability to play decent football, but more often than not they have disappointed. I don’t see a great hunger from players or manager. He’s not a motivator & I can’t see him helping to instil confidence in our younger players. Our so called experienced players need a good kick up the bottom as well.
If you are having problems sleeping at night I’d recommend listing to Crawford’s monotone ramblings.
Unless you are a Pars fan.....they will give you nightmares!!!
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 20:37

I think Crawford does not organise the team properly. If you don’t get the team structured and have a team plan then you can kick the players all you want it’s not going to happen!
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 20:46

If Crawford goes i’d go for Danny Lennon - he’s just signed a 2 year contact at Clyde though.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 20:53

Ian Murray? For God's sake why?

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 21:06

Quote:

gordi-b, Sat 23 Nov 18:22

Was a bit sceptical on his appointment , thought it looked like another appointment like that of John Potter, only this has turned out as bad if not worse . And allowing him to appoint the manager of a mediocre Fife junior club as his assistant (who just happens to be his mate ) shows how far of the mark our chairman and B.O.D are.
we are spiralling downwards and need a leader at the helm not an old pals act.


Was due to be sacked by the bluebell.

BCM
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 21:08

Ian Murray has had a good track record bar his stint at St Mirren. He has Airdrie flying now. I agree he hasn’t got a track record at senior level but he did have Dumbarton performing better in the championship than we are now. Just my view not saying he is definitely the man but I think he will move on to bigger club eventually.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 21:17

Darren Young done wonders with Albion Rovers and has East Fife punching above their weight and genuine title contenders this season. Same with Petrie. Finding someone with track record in the Championship would prove a bit more difficult. Would rather have someone with a decent record that has worked with senior players instead of Crawford.

He is a club legend. Hopefully the right thing is done before his reputation gets tarnished.

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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 21:43

This board, fingers in ears La La LA , don’t hear any distractions , doing fine

It’s not good enough
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 21:46

Who would you get in da no1?
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 21:47

Apologies I didn't realise Murray was at Airdrie.

I've no idea

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 21:54

I think Murray, Young and Lennon should be considered. Think Peter Grant would do better as well.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 21:55

It is now November.

matt forsyth
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 22:16

Da no1 with no idea but sticking up with the Crawford management on display?
Crawford was brutal at East Fife and punted.... he is well out of his league now.... but I believe we need an experienced manager in... keep shields as he is great with youth a bit like Potter. Punt Crawford and Dair as they provide nothing!
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: CALGARYPAR  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 22:49

Where’s the experienced overseer they were supposed to bring on board to help. Could be all the difference.

When callum Davidson was here it seemed to help the team out a bit. So why was he never replaced. ?? Is it down to money ??
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 22:57

Surely it's done now, not working.

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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 23:18

Abysmal record . That today was our biggest game of the season. On a football level it’s disappointing . On a business level it’s horrific . Missing the chance of a big tie . Really poor
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 23:23

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EEP, Sat 23 Nov 22:16

Da no1 with no idea but sticking up with the Crawford management on display?
Crawford was brutal at East Fife and punted.... he is well out of his league now.... but I believe we need an experienced manager in... keep shields as he is great with youth a bit like Potter. Punt Crawford and Dair as they provide nothing!


Where have I stuck up for him tonight?

I'll be right here when you find that post.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sat 23 Nov 23:35

I don’t believe there is a pars fan out there that thinks Crawford is the man to take us forward . Even the happiest of clappers realises that. Unfortunately that’s not the only issue to consider if we are to dismiss him.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 00:04

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Pars Kebab, Sat 23 Nov 23:35

I don’t believe there is a pars fan out there that thinks Crawford is the man to take us forward . Even the happiest of clappers realises that. Unfortunately that’s not the only issue to consider if we are to dismiss him.


Exactly.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 00:11

He needs dismissed though? Neil Warnock is up for it😅😅
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 09:19

Love Crawfords quote in Sunday Mail " The players and coaching staff are disappointed " not half as p---ed off as the poor souls who made the journey and the rest of the support

G.B
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 12:16

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Row_ZZ, Sat 23 Nov 17:35

That’s it for me, I’ll not be back until he’s gone and a proper tactician that can give us a bit of dig is put in charge.

Shambles the amount that turn up to EEP week in week out and we are struggling in the Championship that contains two part-time teams, whilst also getting parped out the Scottish Cup by part-timers therefore losing viral cash flow. There is no excuse.


Good

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Sliema Par  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 13:26

Yesterday marked a line in the sand.

We know it.The Board knows it.Let no one be in any doubt they will be feeling it every bit as much as we,for they are Pars fans too.

Ten months ago I witnessed the humiliating Cup defeat at Raith Rovers with 2800 other Pars fans.Since then we have got used to humiliations at the hands of Edinburgh City,Arbroath and Alloa Ath.

We had the cliff edge relegation battle taking 4 points in the last quarter.It cannot go on.

I have the greatest respect for our hard working Board, but was not alone in being uncomfortable that Stevie was appointed within hours in mid January.However, if they do not act, our Support,already down 10%, will melt away.That is the stark choice the Board faces today.

We have a much superior squad compared to one year ago yet our points are almost identical.Stevie was a legendary player and is very likeable, but is tarnishing his reputation.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 15:13

Totally agree sliema,bang on ,my thoughts entirely.

Post Edited (Sun 24 Nov 15:14)
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 15:36

''We have a much superior squad compared to one year ago...''

That has been said a few times on here with no acknowledgement that it was Crawford who recruited the squad, mainly from a lower level than the Championship. That is quite a feat and suggests he does at least have an eye for a player. Yesterday's result was woeful and embarrassing but it hasn't changed our league position and I can't see the board deciding it justifies abandoning the project they put in place when they appointed him.
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 15:48

Darren young?? 😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂 the same Darren young who’s east fife team where pumped out the cup yesterday by a team two leagues below them or the same Darren young who’s east fife team bottled it last year and threw a playoff place away after starting off the season on fire? So in reality you want to replace one p!sh manager with a manager who is equally just as p!sh? Thanks but no thanks

Come on ye pars ⚽️
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 15:50

Quote:

wee eck, Sun 24 Nov 15:36

''We have a much superior squad compared to one year ago...''

That has been said a few times on here with no acknowledgement that it was Crawford who recruited the squad, mainly from a lower level than the Championship. That is quite a feat and suggests he does at least have an eye for a player. Yesterday's result was woeful and embarrassing but it hasn't changed our league position and I can't see the board deciding it justifies abandoning the project they put in place when they appointed him.


So...we lose the next two games, how does Crawford survive?
He'd just be a boy with not bad tools and bar trade.

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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: FRED1981  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 15:50

Well don't think the project is working how long does this go on ,gee whizz it was Stranraer that annihilated us no Celtic.
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Topic Originator: Sliema Par  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 16:05

wee eck.You may be proved correct that the Board does nothing.

How long will that hold good if the Support melts away?

As regards Stevie's recruitment,is it just possible that he was enhancing the Club in the role he was in ie Coach?

John Potter was hopeless as Manager but no one doubted his coaching abilities.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 16:21

''So...we lose the next two games, how does Crawford survive?
He'd just be a boy with not bad tools and bar trade.''

So we're now going to sack a manager because he might lose the next two games? I suppose if we win them you'll just ignore it and wait for the next loss.
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Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 16:36

People on this forum keep giving Crawford credit for the players but I thought that was what Jackie MacNamara was brought in for? Can someone clarify, thanks.
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 16:53

Spot on Sliema. I really hope the board can clarify their position with a statement. They’re quick to throw us dedicated fans under the bus with their statements, will they be as transparent when they’ve made a mess of things on-field? I won’t get my hopes up.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 17:24

''People on this forum keep giving Crawford credit for the players but I thought that was what Jackie MacNamara was brought in for? Can someone clarify, thanks.''

Well, I think that's the first time Jackie Mac's been given credit for anything on this forum! I'd be very surprised if Crawford hadn't scouted all these players himself. Some of them trained at the club before they signed.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 17:29

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wee eck, Sun 24 Nov 16:21

''So...we lose the next two games, how does Crawford survive?
He'd just be a boy with not bad tools and bar trade.''

So we're now going to sack a manager because he might lose the next two games? I suppose if we win them you'll just ignore it and wait for the next loss.


Have I ignored past wins? No.
However we are a game or two from bottom and just been pumped by a lesser team....again.
Then you look to the manager for inspiration.....and he can barely muster a wet fart, if his interviews are anything at all to go by then we are right up the proverbial creek sans paddle.
Said it before no one here would be defending such a rank record with the rose tinted's off.
Garbage, uninspiring, insipid and unfortunately entirely expected.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 17:43

You nailed your colours to the mast when Crawford was appointed Rasta, so I don't expect any objective views from you. None of us actually knows what goes on in the dressing room or the training ground. It's pure speculation. I've never understood the view that a manager should be ranting and raving on the touchline to show he has passion; Csaba Laszlo - I rest my case.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 17:59

Need to sever all ties with Jackie McNamara as well. That wee experiment hasn't worked out.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 18:06

How do you know that? Don't you agree with those who say we have a better squad than last season's?
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Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 18:22

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wee eck, Sun 24 Nov 18:06

How do you know that? Don't you agree with those who say we have a better squad than last season's?


Squad is perhaps marginally better. Get a decent manager and assistant in and they'll know who to sign.
Have to admit I didn't want him anywhere near our club to start with.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 18:37

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wee eck, Sun 24 Nov 17:43

You nailed your colours to the mast when Crawford was appointed Rasta, so I don't expect any objective views from you. None of us actually knows what goes on in the dressing room or the training ground. It's pure speculation. I've never understood the view that a manager should be ranting and raving on the touchline to show he has passion; Csaba Laszlo - I rest my case.


Nailed my colours to the mast = was absolutely right.
Called it.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 18:42

We're 5 points off the promotion play-off places with a game in hand. What were your expectations after 13 games?
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 19:38

Same as before - he will get until 28/12/19 against Alloa. If we lose that game and find ourselves 9th or 10th then he must go. Until then nothing will change. Our last 2 results are horrific though and if we lose on Saturday then that scenario could start to become a reality
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Topic Originator: helensburghpar  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 19:57

Three of the worst displays I've had the misfortune to see have all been this season. Edinburgh City, Arbroath and yesterday's shambles. The sad thing is at no point in these games did I think we'd turn it round. Didn't expect a lot this season but think we're underachieving and not seen anything to make me think Crawford's the man to turn it round. I'll keep going and hope he does manage to improve things. Not sure others feel the same and can see crowds taking a dip. Coming home on the bus there was a real anger at what had been delivered.
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Topic Originator: Boston Red Sox  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 20:09

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 20:18

I have no axe to grind regarding the manager. I thought it was a risky appointment but I see no point in discarding him this early in the season. Where do we go next? We had exactly the same situation with AJ and I remember some of the names that were bandied about to replace him - Duffy, McKinnon, McIntyre, etc. Where are they now? Someone suggested Darren Young whose team was beaten at home yesterday by a Lowland League team. The fact is there is no obvious candidate who is guaranteed to improve us and we'd be fishing in a very shallow pool.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 20:23

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Rastapari, Sun 24 Nov 18:37

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wee eck, Sun 24 Nov 17:43

You nailed your colours to the mast when Crawford was appointed Rasta, so I don't expect any objective views from you. None of us actually knows what goes on in the dressing room or the training ground. It's pure speculation. I've never understood the view that a manager should be ranting and raving on the touchline to show he has passion; Csaba Laszlo - I rest my case.


Nailed my colours to the mast = was absolutely right.
Called it.


Things can turn around quite quickly in football, Rasta. It's not so long ago you were almost choking on your cornflakes, (I can't be bothered trawling through the forum to find your post.) having to admit that maybe you'd been wrong about SC. That was after wins v Ayr, Arbroath and QOS. Unfortunately, we've since lost and performed abysmally at Alloa and Stranraer, which has reinforced your original feeling that Crawford was a poor appointment.

Let's see what the next few games bring......



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Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 20:30

I think what Rasta is trying to say there is no emotion from the bench regarding getting the team going.
Even a shout “come on you useless idiots” may help😅
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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 20:43

"The experiment isn't working"!?
We are 5 points off the promotion playoffs with a game in hand.
We are 1/4 of the way into a 2 year experiment, and you want to go to the expense of sacking another manager when we are skint and gamble on whatever else we can afford to bring in when we are 1/8th of the way into the experiment.
Canny see changes happening for a while yet.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 20:46

Can't be arsed arguing

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 20:49

Give Crawford any more time and we’ll be bottom 2 by Christmas. Even at the game yesterday arms are folded offering zero motivation from the touchline. It’s like the potter experiment all over again and unless we change it soon it’s going to go wrong yet again
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 20:54

Dross. Five game streak when we rode our luck, with the exception of the Thistle game . Utter garbage to the end of the season, lucky to escape playoffs. Zero entertainment with the exception of two games against Partick.

This year, great first half v St Mirren and Dundee. Good against Celtic, Partick and QoS, exciting game against Ayr.

Thats the highlights from 10 months.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 21:06

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Boston Red Sox, Sun 24 Nov 20:09

Rasta, you didn’t like the appointment neither did I but put the chubby away for a bit. Eck wake up and smell the coffee mate we’re ***** and relegation material. Unless we get a new manager in to organise this good squad we’re in trouble.

Rasta you’re a McArther fan but you shy away from his responsibilities here. What is it?


First of all you can cut the chubby pi5h, you think I like the Pars being murder?
Sit doon, try thinking.
On Ross McArthur, I'll lay it right out in the open if you'll bother to read.
So it went a Masterton shade of **** real quick and before I knew what was happening the club I / we loved was in serious risk.
All of a sudden, in the midst of profound mental illness, I'm up all night with a dreadlocked musician, a Lithuanian girl and a Celtic fan spray painting banners.
Fast forward we're in the Old Inn before a protest, got a good chat with Ross.
Like it or not by this time there were a few of us privy to how desperate the situation was.
Ross spoke with many fans that day, I heard the words and saw the emotion, you think he sought this role? Dream on if that makes you feel comfortable.
Someone had to save the club, someone had to get a team together, someone had to put themselves in the position of literally never being able to truly win....but something may survive of that.
I hope this isn't insulting but I don't think Ross is a football chairman, I think he is a guy who had to be a chairman and is doing his best to fulfil that role.
So back to the reference to mental illness, when you are struggling to keep a handle on the real and what and who you are, some of it comes down to raw gut instinct, it has to, it's all you have.
That whole period was an important part of my recovery, it was the little real things, feelings, which I admit, isn't much.
For what it's worth it you've read this far I believe...both nuts me and relatively well me...that Ross's intentions were and are purely Pars at heart.
Have mistakes been made...yeah...I think I've been clear in the Crawford appointment, so hardly shirked from the bigger picture, I just refrain from attacking the man who...bigger picture...took on a mantle not one of us commentators could cope with.
I'm a simple fan, want fun at games and doing well for a bit here and there...not sure I've portrayed much else.

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Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 22:01

Maybe that gives a view of things Rasta that not many of us are aware of. I for one am so glad that we have a club and that we can still aspire to better days. It is evident that some have paid a high cost to ensure the survival of DAFC. I am glad we still have a team to support. Of course we don't want mediocrity but I would rather have a slightly unpredictable team for a time than no team at all. I am still of the opinion that changing managers every few months is not the answer and could lead to less achievement and failure, consider Falkirk, who sold the family silver on a top manager last year, whom they have just sacked. Will Ian McCall do any better at Thistle? Does that elusive Messiah of a manager actually exist and does he want to come to DAFC and if he does can we afford him?
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 22:38

In reality it's only an insight to how I saw and see things.
People are free to appropriate whatever solidity or lack of the aforementioned to that as they see fit.
Might even be a black card post, is what it is.

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Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 22:51

Let’s see how Ian McCall’s team perform next Saturday at EEP, surely a defeat for us will signal a serious decision making process for our BOD
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Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sun 24 Nov 23:13

If we play anything like we did against Ayr, Arbroath or QoS, we will beat Thistle. We have shown we can win well at home against decent opposition. I just hope the fans get right behind them again.
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Topic Originator: The Toun Clock  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 13:19

Stevie has now been in charge for 28 Scottish Championship games and has won just 9 of them = 32.14%.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 14:11

No getting punted just now.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 14:16

Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: Paralex like | nolike
Date: Sun 24 Nov 23:13

If we play anything like we did against Ayr, Arbroath or QoS, we will beat Thistle. We have shown we can win well at home against decent opposition. I just hope the fans get right behind them again.

The fans will be behind them and this is entirely up to the players and management, should they produce garbage again this weekend the same fans will let them know what they think of it.
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Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 14:32

I think you are wrong about our ability to beat Thistle. I’m not saying we won’t but you don’t know what you are going to get from Pars as there is no structure to the team.

...and to put those games you mentionin perspective - it looked like Ayr were going to beat us until Ashcroft's wonder strike.

Arbroath came through to EEP after a hard days work. The first half was awful, only in the 2nd did we get on top.

After an average first half against an inept QOS (who could not beat Queens Park) then we won comfortably in the 2nd half.

Honestly, someone summed it up saying we have good players with terrible management. I agree with that. I have listened to SC comments after the game twice now and going to listen to them again. It’s unbelievable how bereft he is of ideas, he sounds like a man totally out of his depth!! I hope he does the decent thing and resigns because no one wants this getting to the point where the fans get bitter with him.
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Topic Originator: Sliema Par  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 15:39

The abuse Allan Johnston and Sandy Clark received on 5th January was shameful.

I do NOT want to see it repeated with Stevie.

That said,I doubt if a good performance v Partick Th will dispel the anger and frustration of the weekend.

I will watch the attendance with great interest because that could be as damning.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 16:19

''...it looked like Ayr were going to beat us until Ashcroft's wonder strike.

Arbroath came through to EEP after a hard days work. The first half was awful, only in the 2nd did we get on top.

After an average first half against an inept QOS (who could not beat Queens Park) then we won comfortably in the 2nd half''.

Why do so many folk on here underplay any success we get? You could say we looked like beating Morton until they scored in added time which was more than it should have been or Alloa were lucky to get a dodgy penalty against us but some people seem to love to mention any breaks we get and ignore any breaks the opposition gets. Teams win games every week with wee breaks or after playing rubbish for half the game or because the other team was garbage. It doesn't just happen to the Pars.
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Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 17:13

The save the Pars campaign was commendable and I will always be grateful for the efforts of many people who made that possible, and those who continue to put their time in for free to help the club.

But maybe now it is time to move on and grow the Pars, we have a tremendous fan base and maybe should look at the structure from the Chairman down and review that with a view to building going forward.

Remember we are All Pars Fans and want the best for the club no matter what our view point is.



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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 18:55

"Why do so many folk on here underplay any success we get? You could say we looked like beating Morton until they scored in added time which was more than it should have been or Alloa were lucky to get a dodgy penalty against us but some people seem to love to mention any breaks we get and ignore any breaks the opposition gets. Teams win games every week with wee breaks or after playing rubbish for half the game or because the other team was garbage. It doesn't just happen to the Pars."

To answer the first question, its because we should be doing better than we are. The wins we've had this season in the league have been against Partick who had just sacked their manager, Arbroath who were resting players ahead of a weekend home game (which they won, so they'll feel it was justified) and the two mentioned above which weren't exactly comfortable wins. We also didn't look like beating Morton (our goal was totally against the run of play) and we also got a lucky penalty at Alloa, and were level at that point so it's not like their penalty.was the decisive moment of the match. Add in the loss om Saturday and it begins to look worrying that we don't have a set system or formation, we have stopped the pressing game that we started the season so promisingly with, we lack pace and width and we have a worrying goalkeeping situation. Teams do win when they aren't playing well, it's true but we aren't even really doing that all too often either and we don't seem to learn from our own mistakes. When you've only played well in maybe three halves of football all season, you have to start thinking that maybe there are bigger issues, no?
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 20:25

If you can amass 16 points from 13 games after only playing well for 135 minutes out of 1170 the manager must be a magician. If you applied the same standards to the other teams in the league do you think they will all have played better than we have? Your post just proves the point I was making.
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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 20:40

Amass isn't the word I'd use :)

Only Alloa and Partick have won fewer games(by 1) and they play each other tomorrow.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 21:53

Kelly par where has it been said Arbroath rested players.

Our penalty against Alloa was exactly that. No luck whatsoever.

Partick did sack their manager and most of .net expected the new manager bounce which didn't happen, which was in no small part down to us.

Ayr and QOS were tough games but we one them both.

Agreed that the last 2 results have been awful but wee eck makes a valid point regarding some posters negativity and your post just proves his point

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 21:56

"Only Alloa and Partick have won fewer games(by 1)"

And only Dundee Utd have lost fewer games (or conceded fewer goals.)



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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 22:10

Some folk don't like facts. In some circles they're called 'fake news'.
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 22:27

To be fair we should have got a second penalty at Alloa.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 25 Nov 22:40

We need to get through the season and see how we go. It'll be interesting to see how are finances are this year. We certainly don't have the cash like Dundee Utd or now Partick.

I think our biggest cost after players is probably maintaining EEP. Much as it's an asset, it's also a liability. Clubs like us, Partick and the Wee Team were well and truly screwed by that ridiculous 10,000 seater nonsense. Outside the city teams (proper cities, not Perth, Inverness or Stirling) there's little chance of getting near 10,000 regularly.
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Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Tue 26 Nov 06:47

With some of his posts on here I see no justification any longer in spending any more money on maintaining EEP 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Tue 26 Nov 08:26

It’s his hands in the pocket stance I don’t agree with. I don’t see that as inspiring, more insipid really. Post match analysis will always appear tedious - I’d rather hear from the players.

The result at the weekend there was very poor and frustrating (with no disrespect to Stranraer- good luck to them in the next round) and now we have to kick off from there v Partick. The players will be feeling it just as much as we are.

I don’t know what the answer is - leave things til the 31/12 and see where we’re sitting in the table, or make the break now and give someone new a chance (no idea whose hat would be in the ring).

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Topic Originator: rossmcno1  
Date:   Tue 26 Nov 08:42

On reflection I think the problem is that while many of us accept there will be ups and downs, and many predict a 5th to 7th finish this season as part of a rebuild, it’s hard to go through it. Part of the issue with such a season is that young players will make mistakes and maturity happens at different levels. I don’t hear of any unrest at the club, I don’t think they aren’t trying, I don’t get the impression of rot that there was last year.... maybe this is all part of the wider plan. Ultimately if it comes to May and we finish 5th then job done...?

My concern is how many fans we lose in the meantime and the apathy surrounding the support. There are currently more black marks than gold stars for SC and co, so I do think we need to see some progress next few weeks.



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Topic Originator: livipar2  
Date:   Tue 26 Nov 09:29

The interview with Euan Murray in the Press gives a good insight into both Stevie Crawford and Ross McArthur.

I’m sure that won’t alter the views of the Crawford out brigade here though.

Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 26 Nov 12:53

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livipar2, Tue 26 Nov 09:29

The interview with Euan Murray in the Press gives a good insight into both Stevie Crawford and Ross McArthur.

I’m sure that won’t alter the views of the Crawford out brigade here though.


It doesn't alter the crap fitba either....

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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Tue 26 Nov 13:47

I kind of hate this place if I'm honest but here I am posting so there you go.

Strikes me that there's a tonne of different factors all conflating each other when anything is discussed but here's a brief summary of where I think things are.

Ross Mcarthur: One of the nicest blokes I've met in a football context. Doesn't deserve half the stick he gets on here. Is absolutely trying to do the best thing for DAFC and should be credited for trying to install a long-term sustainable model for a provincial, marginally successful Scottish football team. I know some people don't like the references to saving the Pars or being grateful for having a football club or having no credit facility to roll the dice but just because you're sick of hearing something doesn't make it less true.

Will he be happy with how things are? Certainly not. Has he made mistakes? Absolutely. But you don't become successful in business by getting everything correct. You succeed with tenacity, adapting to changing conditions and keeping a level head while others around you flap away.

Stevie Crawford: Hmmm. It's not going all that great is it? I think there's a general will within the support for him to succeed, minus a wee minority, but I'm getting more concerned as the weeks pass.

The Pars remind me of that poem about that wee lass. When she was good, she was very very good, but when she was bad, she was rotten. Unfortunately, the rotten spells tend to cluster a bit and the very good bits are more sporadic. Cluj and someone else in Europa league aside, we might well be the only team to get a 90-minute result at Parkhead. Dundee at home first half was genuinely thrilling at times. Ditto St Mirren away first half. Ayr, Queens, Arbroath at home were alright. But the rest? Not so much.

My biggest concern with SC isn't results like Stranraer away, a team the size of the Pars will always drop the odd stink-bomb, but it's the abject lack of dynamism in the team that worries me more. We just stink the place out for big chunks of games at times (or 100% of the time last Saturday!) A team full of talented youngsters (and most of them are clearly talented) should be busting a gut and expressing themselves. If this is a long-term project then we should allow an ebb and flow of poor results, but there should be a bare minimum level of application and energy on display. There's an increasing propensity for that to go missing for huge chunks and it's making me question whether SC has it or will ever have it. Whatever 'it' is.

So that's where I am. But please for the love of God lets not clamour for the old guard like Dick Campbell or suchlike. I think the model is right, we just might not have the right captain at the helm. Or another terrible metaphor.

You've been listening to my Pars Ted Talk. Goodnight.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Tue 26 Nov 14:41

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Rusty Shackleford, Tue 26 Nov 13:47

I kind of hate this place if I'm honest but here I am posting so there you go.

Strikes me that there's a tonne of different factors all conflating each other when anything is discussed but here's a brief summary of where I think things are.

Ross Mcarthur: One of the nicest blokes I've met in a football context. Doesn't deserve half the stick he gets on here. Is absolutely trying to do the best thing for DAFC and should be credited for trying to install a long-term sustainable model for a provincial, marginally successful Scottish football team. I know some people don't like the references to saving the Pars or being grateful for having a football club or having no credit facility to roll the dice but just because you're sick of hearing something doesn't make it less true.

Will he be happy with how things are? Certainly not. Has he made mistakes? Absolutely. But you don't become successful in business by getting everything correct. You succeed with tenacity, adapting to changing conditions and keeping a level head while others around you flap away.

Stevie Crawford: Hmmm. It's not going all that great is it? I think there's a general will within the support for him to succeed, minus a wee minority, but I'm getting more concerned as the weeks pass.

The Pars remind me of that poem about that wee lass. When she was good, she was very very good, but when she was bad, she was rotten. Unfortunately, the rotten spells tend to cluster a bit and the very good bits are more sporadic. Cluj and someone else in Europa league aside, we might well be the only team to get a 90-minute result at Parkhead. Dundee at home first half was genuinely thrilling at times. Ditto St Mirren away first half. Ayr, Queens, Arbroath at home were alright. But the rest? Not so much.

My biggest concern with SC isn't results like Stranraer away, a team the size of the Pars will always drop the odd stink-bomb, but it's the abject lack of dynamism in the team that worries me more. We just stink the place out for big chunks of games at times (or 100% of the time last Saturday!) A team full of talented youngsters (and most of them are clearly talented) should be busting a gut and expressing themselves. If this is a long-term project then we should allow an ebb and flow of poor results, but there should be a bare minimum level of application and energy on display. There's an increasing propensity for that to go missing for huge chunks and it's making me question whether SC has it or will ever have it. Whatever 'it' is.

So that's where I am. But please for the love of God lets not clamour for the old guard like Dick Campbell or suchlike. I think the model is right, we just might not have the right captain at the helm. Or another terrible metaphor.

You've been listening to my Pars Ted Talk. Goodnight.


Rusty cant disagree with anything you said there .I personally would give the management till xmas and see where we are .we are 5 points of 4th place at present
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: livipar2  
Date:   Tue 26 Nov 15:23

Spot on Rusty

Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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 Re: Crawford
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Tue 26 Nov 16:30

Excellent post Rusty.

The lack of dynamism starts from the touchline, show some energy and passion and it spreads amongst players and fans.

What worries me is that when the game becomes physical we struggle.With the poor weather and diminishing quality of pitches throughout the winter months there are going to be plenty of 'battles' that need to be won.

Was Kiltie left out of the cup game at Killie's request? If so there must be a chance that he will be recalled by them.Going out of the cup must be a blow to getting potential reinforcements in January. The squad looks thin without the loanees.

Did he play McCann on the left wing again at the weekend?

Massive game this weekend given we are away in Ayr,Dundee and Inverness before Christmas.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Tue 26 Nov 16:42

Spot on Rusty. FWIW I'd be taking a break if Campbell arrived. Can't stand him.
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Topic Originator: allanwilson10  
Date:   Tue 26 Nov 17:09

Parathletic - both Kiltie and Cochrane were left out at the request of their parent clubs.

McCann was again played on the left - I surely can't be the only one who doesn't see the reasoning behind this!
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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Tue 26 Nov 17:20

Thanks Allan. That confirms they are keeping their options open with regards to recalling them in January.

I'm with you on McCann.He was played there against ICT and it didn't work then. Square pegs in round holes. If you are going to play him then at least play him in his preferred position.
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