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 Pep
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 08:58

Those who constantly snipe at Guardiola that he's only been successful because he's managed top teams, may wish to reassess this morning.

Only last month, City were embarrassed by United at the Etihad, with swift, counter attacking football which sliced through City's fragile back line. He certainly learned lessons from that game. City's tactics were spot on.

No Aguero or Jesus must have bemused United's central defenders because last night's game even more one sided. United couldn't get near them in the first half and could easily have been on the end of an even heavier defeat than the 1-6 of a few seasons ago.

It's often said players win matches, but good managers certainly make a difference.



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 Re: Pep
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 10:53

A bit of all that GG but Man U are really poor just now ...Not one shot on target against Wolves
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 Re: Pep
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 12:14

Really poor Man U team-27 points off top having played a game more in the league.Although they are 5th they are only 11 points above the relegation zone.If you add Arsenal and Man Utd total points together they would still be behind Liverpool on goal difference and Liverpool have played a game less than both.

Although not everyone's cup of tea I see Lukaku has scored 14 in 17 games in the Serie A for Inter-Man U fans must be scratching their heads.They would struggle to get a single player in Man City's team.Can't see Ole lasting past this season.
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 Re: Pep
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 12:54

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Buspasspar, Wed 8 Jan 10:53

A bit of all that GG but Man U are really poor just now ...Not one shot on target against Wolves


The point I was making is that this "really poor" Man U side, as you and parathletic describe them, gave City a salutary lesson in speedy, counter attacking football on their own patch, just last month.

Look how far the pendulum swung the other way last night, thanks in no small measure, to Pep's tactical awareness - the same Pep who folk wrote off when he arrived at the Etihad because he failed to win the CL with Bayern.



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 Re: Pep
Topic Originator: Perkins  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 12:56

That's like saying Crawford's a genius if Pars were to beat Stranraer if we played them again soon
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 Re: Pep
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 13:22

Fair play to Utd ,they did get a good win at the Etihad with some good counter attacking play in that game but on another day they could've got battered.City had 72% possession, 16 corners to 3 and 23 shots to 11.

For the record I think Pep is a good coach and gets his teams playing attractive stuff. It's in the transfer market where I think he hasn't been as effective-he must regret not strengthening at the back after the departure of Kompany and when the other defenders haven't convinced. Laportes injury has compounded that but they have another 4 defenders who all cost more than £50 million each(Mendy,Walker,Stones, Cancelo.) Defensively they have conceded more than the likes of Sheffield Utd and Crystal Palace and that's where they have fallen short this season.
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 Re: Pep
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 13:29

''That's like saying Crawford's a genius if Pars were to beat Stranraer if we played them again soon.''

Errr..... naw it's no.

Man U are in the same league as City and have a broadly similar budget. They really ran City ragged at the Etihad. Last night the roles were reversed.

Stranraer are a poor team at the foot of League 1. They won a poor game in which every Pars player had a total off day. If we did beat Stranraer in a rematch, it would only be ''natural order'' (as Levein calls it) being restored.

I think Stranraer have only beaten the Pars 5 time in the whole history of Scottish football. The first time was in 1979. It was the first game my new wife attended. (She wasn't keen to repeat the experience.) The other 4 have all come fairly recently.

In contrast United and City have a much closer H2H record.

Total 156. Man U. 61 City 48 Draws 47.



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 Re: Pep
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 13:35

Man Utd have a good decent record at the Etihad and City have a good recent record at Old Trafford.
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 Re: Pep
Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 13:37

It was a tactical masterclass last night. The comments on here highlight how little the average football fan understands the tactical side of the game. That first half performance was the highest quality I have seen this season from any side. Pep prevented Man Utd from countering and at the same time they looked devastating every time they went up the park.
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 Re: Pep
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 13:46

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GG Riva, Wed 8 Jan 08:58
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It's often said players win matches, but good managers certainly make a difference.



Very pertinent to where we are at the moment GG!

Funnily enough Man Utd have also appointed a manager based on his past playing career with the club, rather than his managerial ability.
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 Re: Pep
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 14:54

Are United not also top of the table if only the top 6 teams are factored in? Meaning that they are excellent against the top teams but totally unable to deal with controlling a game against what should be lower level opposition? Pep may have only been at 3 top clubs but his almost complete Domination wherever he goes isn't a coincidence as previous and later managers have shown. Easily in the top 3 coaches in the world, I'd even argue he's No1
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 Re: Pep
Topic Originator: Perkins  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 16:16

He's an excellent coach, but it's fashionable to go way over the top about him.
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 Re: Pep
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 16:26

No question Pep is a top coach. Easy but glib to say he's only managed top clubs as if that is easy.
Years ago, that maybe was the case but not now.
To manage multi millionaires and their ego's is as hard as managing teams on a shoestring as previous City managers found.
He's very passionate and attention to detail a big part of his abilities.

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