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 can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 09:52

The coaching staff at DAFC are looking for help to purchase a Teqball Table (cost £800 including delivery).


This is to help player movement reaction, technical skills and touch control techniques.

We are looking for small donations to be made to the club. Either by dropping an envelope or direct to DAFC bank account with reference TEQBALL with your name and contact.

If you donate £5 or more you will be put into a draw for two hospitality tickets at DAFC
(these hospitality tickets will be paid for by DAFC.net and won't come out of the donations).

Please contact us if you need the bank account details.

Your help in buying this would be very much appreciated, however, if you are unable to do so, we can understand that.

All donations gratefully received. Thank You.



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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 09:54

three donations came in last night before this was posted ;o)
from Tommy Clark, Ian Hallet, Joe Gordon.

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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 09:57

Get Faissal back - I’ll bet he’s a genius at this 😂😂
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 12:21

Quote:

brian, Sat 18 Jan 09:52

The coaching staff at DAFC are looking for help to purchase a Teqball Table (cost £800 including delivery).


This is to help player movement reaction, technical skills and touch control techniques.

We are looking for small donations to be made to the club. Either by dropping an envelope or direct to DAFC bank account with reference TEQBALL with your name and contact.

If you donate £5 or more you will be put into a draw for two hospitality tickets at DAFC
(these hospitality tickets will be paid for by DAFC.net and won't come out of the donations).

Please contact us if you need the bank account details.


Seems pretty cheap. Most of these are over 2 grand.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: yvb-par  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 12:21

Brian, without trying to sound thick but dont you need the bank account and sort code to make a payment for the donation and do you have them for the DAFC account?
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 12:44

Is there a video or something you could post of one being used? Might help things
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 12:56

I'd much rather they'd asked for grand or £1500 before the Stranraer cup game to stay overnight and produce a better performance and we might not be idle this weekend.
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Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 12:57

Here's Ronaldinho playing Teqball. Looks like it's table-tennis with a football.
https://youtu.be/5WDbfK6O0Ok

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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 13:13

The original cost for this one is over two grand,

I didn't want to post bank account details but can forward to people


All very well bitching about the past but at least they are trying to move on.

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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 13:28

Should just set up some heady tennis and start with that and concentrate on actually coaching the team defensively and tactic shape.

Good luck raising the cash tho

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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 20:05

😅😅😅 Honestly the team are brutal but let’s all chip in and get them a football tennis table..... That’s going to help them eh?
There lies the problem...... total set up is wrong.
A feking football table😅 what a joke!
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 20:48

Don’t usually agree with EEP but I am on this one.

Think we should be just focussing on the basics on the training ground than arsing about with a Teqball table.

I can’t see how such a table would really benefit this squad, load of nonsense.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:03

Honestly Berry wtf is going on?
I thought the heading “can you help the coaching staff?”
Meant they are looking for ideas😅😅 But they are looking for a table tennis football table to help the team...honestly it’s just laughable now..😩
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Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:12

Let's just stay an extra hour of hard training, and running track work.Money saved.Players are too pampered now.Two hours training,give it a rest.I ran for pitreavie,and was fitter, than these guy's, and unpaid.

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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:20

Brian can I ask will this benefit the team and their performance?
£800? Where will this table be placed as I would like to see a Ashcroft/Devine game😅 if this is what the management team want then it’s a joke.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: donj  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:21

Don't think anybody desperate to give money to let them enjoy themselves.Put effort into games and then people might donate.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:26

If it's good enough for Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City and Man United I think there's a fair chance it's good enough to help our players improve their touch and technique.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:28

Three points away from the relegation playoffs and they’re calling out for a Teqball table..honestly...what is going on man.

We need to sort out the car crash of a defence never mind this, unless their tactics are to allow Ashcroft to clear the ball via keepy uppies...
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:35

The Chelsea etc team treat this as a laugh after or before their PROPER training sessions... it’s a table tennis football game that will not progress our team one bit.
WTF is going on in this club?
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:38

It's pretty obvious that will be getting worked on. Whether its succesful or not is another matter. It's never going to be the case that its either work on defensive tactics or improve your technique.

Players use them as they're fun and improve communication, coordination and technique. If there's only going to be one table it's likely it's there for additional work outside of normal training so it's an add on compared to the usual. Anything that helps sharpen up the players is useful and £800 isnt exactly a huge outlay for something that the club is going to get use out of.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:39

Fans have paid to watch the team under achieve all season and were asked to donate money for a football table..... your having a laugh surely?
If the coaching staff think this will improve the team then we are feked!
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:42

If you don't want to donate then don't it's not rocket science.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:43

Londonparsfan a table football is in no way going to help the team get better.
Honestly iv heard it all but a feking table football?
Honestly I’m done so will take the wee lad to watch other games.
It’s just a total joke.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:45

When performances have been so poor, brutal to watch, goals conceded have been nothing short of abysmal.

It is a little insulting for them to reach out for us to put money in so they can get....a football table.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:54

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londonparsfan, Sat 18 Jan 21:38

It's pretty obvious that will be getting worked on. Whether its succesful or not is another matter. It's never going to be the case that its either work on defensive tactics or improve your technique.

Players use them as they're fun and improve communication, coordination and technique. If there's only going to be one table it's likely it's there for additional work outside of normal training so it's an add on compared to the usual. Anything that helps sharpen up the players is useful and £800 isnt exactly a huge outlay for something that the club is going to get use out of.



£800 must be a huge outlay if they're asking for fans to help fund it

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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: hutty1111  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:56

I rarely ever post on here but I just had to let off some steam on this post.
I agree with everything posted above and think the club has hit an all time low if they are expecting fans to pay for a table tennis.
This reminds me of when I was working in a warehouse and they wanted the staff to all donate £1 so we could get a pool table in our canteen.
This is absolute nonsense maybe if our recent results were not so bad we would get a few more people through the gates to cover a measly £800 for a table tennis
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 21:59

Was that pool table going to improve your technique in the warehouse?
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:03

Get the squad back on the training ground and tell them it’s not good enough and work hard for the next game.... and work harder than you ever have!
Table tennis football can take a time out😅😅 Utter nonesense where we are!
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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:04

I notice that none of the teams you mentioned LPF actually won today , I know Utd play tomorrow but they’ll get absolutely destroyed as well. I personally don’t see how one table will help 35 players but nonetheless if that’s what they want then surely the players can chip in and get it.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:05

Like I said earlier, you want fans to contribute to an overnight stay that might benefit them instead of sitting 3hours+ on a bus then count me in.
This seems an unbelievably brazen ask though particularly given recent results.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:11

Quote:

EEP, Sat 18 Jan 22:03

Get the squad back on the training ground and tell them it’s not good enough and work hard for the next game.... and work harder than you ever have!
Table tennis football can take a time out😅😅 Utter nonesense where we are!


And then after they've done their additional training a few of them can stay behind and work on their technique...
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:13

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Pars Kebab, Sat 18 Jan 22:04

I notice that none of the teams you mentioned LPF actually won today , I know Utd play tomorrow but they’ll get absolutely destroyed as well. I personally don’t see how one table will help 35 players but nonetheless if that’s what they want then surely the players can chip in and get it.


So none of those clubs have any decent coaches or trainers because they lost today? Its not 35 folk standing round a table watching two or four folk play.

Its meant to be a fun thing to do but there is a point to it. It's not a table tennis table.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:14

Quote:

Westies squint kicks, Sat 18 Jan 22:05

Like I said earlier, you want fans to contribute to an overnight stay that might benefit them instead of sitting 3hours+ on a bus then count me in.
This seems an unbelievably brazen ask though particularly given recent results.


If anything our recent results would suggest our players could benefit from working on their technique...
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:16

EEP, can your contacts at the club confirm that this is definitely Jackie McNamara's idea? I'm surprised you didn't know about it before it was posted on here.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:17

After reading Brian’s post this is to develop movement,technical and touch.......I’m not really getting playing table tennis with a football will see the team develop. Honestly if this is how the coaching comes down to this then it’s getting to the stage where it stupid!
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:24

Kicking a ball against a wall can improve you as a player. You learn to trap a ball and play it all sorts of different heights and angles. This is just a fun way to practice core footballing competencies.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:25

[Post Deleted] - Utter Bollocks
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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:28

What a bunch of utter roasters post in this site
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:28

I'd liked to have seen that post 😂
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:30

See Iv got a yellow for nothing.
If any pars fan out there thinks getting a football ping pong table will benefit the team then go ahead and donate.
I hope to see results improve.
Admin a yellow ffs?
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:32

Red card ? For that ? 😂😂😂 Absolute wow.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: donj  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:37

The red card seems a bit extreme.
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Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 22:53

Fair play to the fans that donated to this. Feels like an absolute p*** take from the club with the season we’re having though. Unfortunately things like this at the moment look like they’re going to upset the fans even more if the board/staff can’t splash out £800 for a table and expect the fans to.
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Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Sat 18 Jan 23:20

And it would appear that Flanders has chucked his toys out the parm again I await the post about the forum being shut down yada yada 😂😂😂

Come on ye pars ⚽️
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 00:18

Brian I'm thinking this a wind up to lure the usual numbskulls into a black card. Well played my son.....

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Nippy Sweetie  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 01:16

WTF....Stevie Crawford was earning more in a week than I was getting paid in 3 months when he was a player, his footballers pension which is different to all us shmucks who wait until they are nearly 70, could buy that tomorrow...Brian get your head from out of the East End ******* and stop it....This we are lucky we have a club crap also has to stop....I see plenty of fancy motors around East End belonging players and officials when I get off the bus...no danger..Why do the player not get a dog on a a bit string wearing a bandana sit next a cashpoint and hold a cup .....joke....
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Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 08:02

Does seem like a stupidly timed plea..... for all the club go on about money, I feel this might not be a necessity.. also is this official? As dont see it posted on COWS etc?
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Topic Originator: oapar  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 08:37

Once again why not make a mountain out of a molehill? It is quite simple if you want to help. donate, if not don't then that is fine, no one said it is compulsory, so stop moaning.

Although I have no idea who has asked for the money ( I have no inside source for information) I imagine it has all been done with the best of intentions, so please do not criticize someone for thinking that they are doing a good deed.



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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 08:45

Correct, mountain out of a molehile

Mo Hutton asked me to help with this as he'd had a discussion with Greg Shields and they wanted to help the young team and academy players.



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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 08:48

At some of the other posts, I can only sigh !

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 08:53

Brian ,it will probably be Jackies fault 😂😂
Put me down for 25 quid will have my son drop it off.
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Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 09:17

EEP red carded, who is going to give us the inside info now!!!!!!
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 09:36

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Brian get your head from out of the East End ******* and stop it....This we are lucky we have a club crap also has to stop..


what's this all about ??

I don't believe I ever say we are lucky to have a club. perhaps you can explain a little more what you mean ?

looks like the same few people having a right dig at anybody associated with the club. Perhaps if you spent a fraction of the energy trying to help the club than against it, the club might be in a better position.

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 09:39

This gimmick will not save us.

I Hope You're Ok Today....
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: Thaipar  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 10:09

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Rastapari, Sun 19 Jan 09:39

This gimmick will not save us.


Save from what exactly? Being a professional football club playing within our means with the players and resources we have. Playing at the level where we should be for the players and resources we have??
Accept what we have be it 1st 2nd or 3rd division I went no matter what home and away, service bus to arbroath from the roundabout at Canmore bar at 8am back home after 10pm even as a 14 year old back in the 80's from a football game.
That was 36 years ago and if I was still in the UK I would do the same now.
I follow Dunfermline as they are my home team and I will always follow through thick and thin.
Folk now expect tooo much. We are a provincial club with money to match no sugar daddies. Accept we can win lose or draw every week, we have noo given rights just because we are the mighty pars.

Please don't book me Admin, it will ruin my life.
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Topic Originator: renegade master  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 10:50

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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 11:07

I've lost count of the amount of times I've seen the Hamilton youth and coaching set up praised on here and cited as an example we should be following. Well..

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/hamilton-accies-football-club-install-18874455

"Hamilton Accies chief executive Colin McGowan said: “We believe we are the first club in Scotland to install such innovative equipment that will undoubtedly improve our players’ skills.

“The youth academy players and first team squad could not wait to get to grips with the Teqball table and play a few games and it is already looking like a great way for the academy and senior players alike to enhance their ball skills.”

They're fun but they aren't just toys.
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 11:07

Jesus wept...if you don't like it, don't contribute.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 11:08

A Great statement 👍

BCM
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 11:08

Quote:

renegade master, Sun 19 Jan 10:50

If we have 35 players on our books, plus coaching staff, directors and Chairman I reckon if they all had a whip round of £25 each then this would be more than covered.
It looks embarrassing asking the paying supporters who are paying similar for 90 minutes of the current dross on the park to stump up for a glorified table tennis table.


Clearly not understanding how they are used then.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 11:09

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jake89, Sun 19 Jan 11:07

Jesus wept...if you don't like it, don't contribute.


That whole concept seems to be blowing some folks minds.
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Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 11:10

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renegade master, Sun 19 Jan 10:50

If we have 35 players on our books, plus coaching staff, directors and Chairman I reckon if they all had a whip round of £25 each then this would be more than covered.
It looks embarrassing asking the paying supporters who are paying similar for 90 minutes of the current dross on the park to stump up for a glorified table tennis table.


A Great statement.

BCM
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Topic Originator: Chris1983  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 11:12

Beat me to it renegade master. Players, coaching staff and directors can all chip in for this as far as I am concerned.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 11:25

Surely this could have been taken from the Lifeline money?

Absolutely mad to be asking fans to contribute even more to the club for something that, if deemed beneficial or necessary, should be funded through the current income.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: oapar  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 11:36

It is not compulsory to contribute, just ignore the post, or maybe you could offer to help out in some other way like so many of our volunteers.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 11:37

Puts the club's financial standing into perspective if fans are being asked to stump up £800 for a second hand piece of kit.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 11:41

If everyone that went to the last home game contributed it would work out at 21p each. Maybe a bit more if you took out away supporters.
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 11:45

Like a few on here have said .If you dont want to make a donation move on and let others who do .

Its a suggestion from a highly respected member of our Backroom staff Mo Hutton who in his day was a very good footballing coach .
I do not see any problem asking for donations we did the same for the kit van .
The club has a budget and this obviously is additional requirement irrespective its only 800 pounds so reasonable to sponsor this in a different way other than dipping into budget .
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 Re: can you help the coaching staff
Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 12:12

not second hand.

If you don't like it I don't see the need to come on an moan about it.

plenty people always looking to help out the club.

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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 12:14

Out of touch, brazen request.
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Topic Originator: steaua  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 12:28

Is this any different from the appeal for the defibrilator or the appeal to paint the players tunnel?
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 12:31

"not second hand."

Apologies, I misread.

That doesn't alter the fact that fans are being asked to put their hands in their pocket yet again.



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Topic Originator: truesupporter  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 12:32

Surely this website is not the medium for requesting donations to buy equipment for the Club!
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 12:39

Folk on here will literally moan about anything.
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Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 12:39

ha ha we're supposed to be a fans website.

but coming on here you wouldn't thinks so !

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Topic Originator: steaua  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 12:49

So let's word it differently.
Your help in buying this would be very much appreciated, however, if you are unable to do so, we can understand that.

All donations gratefully received. Thank You.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:05

I presume this is a proven tool for improving football skills. I imagine it would also encourage team spirit and a bit of competitiveness. What exactly is the problem if a respected member of the backroom staff asks the person who runs the club's main social media platform if he could post a message asking fans if they would be prepared to make a modest voluntary financial contribution towards it?

Some of the posts suggest a 'them and us' mentality amongst some fans which isn't healthy at all.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:08

Why are folk assuming that this was a request from the club?

Brian can speak for himself, but the way I read it, he and Mo had an informal discussion, Mo suggested it would be a good piece of equipment to have and Brian thought he'd publicise it on here.

I wouldn't imagine either of them ran it past the BoD, in which case berating the club is well out of order.



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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:12

Can understand people not fancying helping out bit I don't understand, and will never understand, the leap to abject negativity.

Reads as a request for help to buy a non-essential item (therefore not covered by our water tight budget) but could help out with skills and team bonding etc.

Nobody has to donate.

If Berry and EEP won £9m on the lottery they'd complain it was an odd number.
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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:15

Get a tin of paint and paint a square on the ground for a court and play head tennis on that.If you require a net a piece of string would do the job.You would still be improving the same skill set-problem solved :)
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Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:19

Embarrassing comments on this thread from some absolute roasters.
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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:22

I’d agree with that wee eck . There is an increasingly unhealthy relationship between the fans and the board. Are they so out of touch? It’s beyond naive to ask the fans to donate after this seasons sh*t show . Completely moronic when we have just lost 5 games on the bounce and Christmas was only a few weeks ago.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:23

It looks like a great bit of kit to be honest, I can see how it could benefit close control, touch, reactions and passing. A few folk on here would complain about anything, they are so negative I'm surprised they can get out of bed in the morning. They probably want the players out every day running up Gullane sand dunes
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Topic Originator: grelin  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:25

I admire your enthusiasm and loyalty to the club and whilst I accept we are playing guff just now, I think it is commendable that you are trying to raise what is a modest sum in the hope that the equipment might have a positive impact. Please mark me down for £10 and good luck in your endeavors.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:37

''I’d agree with that wee eck . There is an increasingly unhealthy relationship between the fans and the board.''

Just some fans and, as explained above, the board had nothing to do with this so you're wrong on both counts. As said by others, some folk just seem to default to a negative attitude towards the club in general.
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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:39

Just an idea but if and when you are successful with this why not get one and make it available to rent out after player's hours depending on where it would be located? I'd be up for a game of it.If it was bringing in an income to the club maybe more would see it as a worthwhile suggestion? No idea on feasibility but just a suggestion.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:42

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Pars Kebab, Sun 19 Jan 13:22

I’d agree with that wee eck . There is an increasingly unhealthy relationship between the fans and the board. Are they so out of touch? It’s beyond naive to ask the fans to donate after this seasons sh*t show . Completely moronic when we have just lost 5 games on the bounce and Christmas was only a few weeks ago.


1 - as has been pointed out this request may not have come from the board.

2 - in what way do our results dictate what our equipment needs for our training are? If we had played 21 games and won 21, would we be ok to ask the fans to donate then? If fans can't separate training needs from the results I'm not sure that's really down to anyone at the club tbh.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:44

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parathletic, Sun 19 Jan 13:39

Just an idea but if and when you are successful with this why not get one and make it available to rent out after player's hours depending on where it would be located? I'd be up for a game of it.If it was bringing in an income to the club maybe more would see it as a worthwhile suggestion? No idea on feasibility but just a suggestion.


That's actually a really good idea if its workable for the club to organise. It's the quickest growing sport in the world just now and is on it's way to being recognised as an Olympic sport.
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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 13:57

Please explain why would ask fans instead of going through the board ?
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:08

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GG Riva, Sun 19 Jan 13:08

Why are folk assuming that this was a request from the club?

Brian can speak for himself, but the way I read it, he and Mo had an informal discussion, Mo suggested it would be a good piece of equipment to have and Brian thought he'd publicise it on here.

I wouldn't imagine either of them ran it past the BoD, in which case berating the club is well out of order.


This is a perfectly viable explanation. It may or not be accurate but it might well have happened.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:09

"1 - as has been pointed out this request may not have come from the board."

In which case the chairman and directorate should be asking why the matter was not raised on the agenda of the most recent board meeting.

There are proper procedures for funding requests.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:15

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veteraneastender, Sun 19 Jan 14:09

"1 - as has been pointed out this request may not have come from the board."

In which case the chairman and directorate should be asking why the matter was not raised on the agenda of the most recent board meeting.

There are proper procedures for funding requests.


Indeed there are, VEE, but do you honestly think the BoD would have held their hands up in horror at the very idea?

"Oh no, you can't do that, Brian. You'll upset all our loyal supporters on Dotnet."



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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:17

Why would anyone need board level approval from the club to raise funds independently of the club?

Did the kit van appeal need board level sign off?

Any takers on why supporters think results should dictate what our training equipment needs are?
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:23

If any proof was needed that Brian is not the Messiah, just cast your eyes over this thread and see for yourself how much seethe, angst, anger, rage and resentment he has provoked among the good people of Nazareth, err.... I mean Dunfermline.

I rest my case, m'lud.



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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:28

He's a very naughty boy!
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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:28

Its quite concerning how out of touch with reality so many clearly are and I include the coaching staff in that.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:37

Will you revise that view if they manage to raise the sum required?
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:37

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Pars Kebab, Sun 19 Jan 14:28

Its quite concerning how out of touch with reality so many clearly are and I include the coaching staff in that.


Can you please elaborate as to who these "so many" are, Mr Kebab? I'm genuinely interested.



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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:46

The working man who grafts for 40+ hours a week is being asked to contribute to a fund so football players who get to kick a ball for 2/3 hours a day, 4 days a week and play a match on a Saturday can play a game of football tennis and some of you don't understand how some of us question that morally.

That sun that is shining out of everything black and white's backside has obviously blinded you,it's utterly pathetic how the club is immune to criticism from some of you. The club do many things right but this is wrong on so many fronts.



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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:48

Why haven’t the coaching staff went through the proper protocol re fund requests? It’s a fecking boys club they are running down there . Let’s be honest the board probably would have told them to bolt and rightly so imo but I suppose they know fans will always put their hand in their pockets .
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Topic Originator: hutty1111  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:50

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Westies squint kicks, Sun 19 Jan 14:46

The working man who grafts for 40+ hours a week is being asked to contribute to a fund so football players who get to kick a ball for 2/3 hours a day, 4 days a week and play a match on a Saturday can play a game of football tennis and some of you don't understand how some of us question that morally.

That sun that is shining out of everything black and white's backside has obviously blinded you,it's utterly pathetic how the club is immune to criticism from some of you. The club do many things right but this is wrong on so many fronts.


100% Agreed with above
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 14:59

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Westies squint kicks, Sun 19 Jan 14:46

The working man who grafts for 40+ hours a week is being asked to contribute to a fund so football players who get to kick a ball for 2/3 hours a day, 4 days a week and play a match on a Saturday can play a game of football tennis and some of you don't understand how some of us question that morally.

That sun that is shining out of everything black and white's backside has obviously blinded you,it's utterly pathetic how the club is immune to criticism from some of you. The club do many things right but this is wrong on so many fronts.


Except that this was almost certainly the (arguably misguided) idea of one man and that man is neither the Chairman nor even a member of the BoD. He asked if any of would like to make a donation towards a piece of equipment which could help hone our squad's skills. Seemed like a good idea at the time.

Poor Brian. I bet he wishes he'd stayed in his scratcher today....☹



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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 15:00

Completely agree WSK. If you dare to question anything that comes out of the club then you are attacked by the clique.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 15:06

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Pars Kebab, Sun 19 Jan 14:48

Why haven’t the coaching staff went through the proper protocol re fund requests? It’s a fecking boys club they are running down there . Let’s be honest the board probably would have told them to bolt and rightly so imo but I suppose they know fans will always put their hand in their pockets .


As I understand it, the only member of the coaching staff who was a party to the informal discussion was Greg Shields.

I hardly think he would have turned to Brian and said, "How about sticking it on Dotnet and see if we can squeeze some hard earned money from our hard up but loyal fans?"

Much more likely that Brian, a Pars fan of many years, thought it might be something his fellow fans would be pleased to support, current form notwithstanding.



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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 15:09

Da No1 resorting to insults as standard . No card for protected clique member of course .
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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 15:13

Fair enough if that is the case GG but it read as if the request had come from the coaching staff.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 15:16

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Pars Kebab, Sun 19 Jan 15:09

Da No1 resorting to insults as standard . No card for protected clique member of course .


Da No 1 is out of order, PK. I've not insulted you but I have put some points to you which you have ignored. Why is that?



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Topic Originator: Superally  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 15:25

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Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 15:47

I am up for donating a tenner Brian, let me know how to do it

It looks like there has been a conversation with Mo and Brian has said he would try to help out just as we did with the kit van, those who wanted to donate to the fund did and those who did not kept quiet and did not try to talk down the club or the efforts of those who are trying to help out

Perhaps it’s just the current climate and the bad run of form that is making people disengaged with the club, it is a bit sad that negativity is becoming the standpoint for many at present

Anyway, another tenner in the pot
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 16:05

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Pars Kebab, Sun 19 Jan 15:09

Da No1 resorting to insults as standard . No card for protected clique member of course .


So it's ok for you to attack the coaching staff players and club in general on an almost hourly basis but when someone has a go back you run to admin. What a sad little man. Are you like this in real life or just online?

My post wasn't aimed at you specifically btw but the cap does seem to fit quite well

Away and support the Old Firm. You cannot handle being a Pars supporter

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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 16:06

Kit van to make the kit mans job a bit easier versus a luxury for the players, and to compare it to a defibrillator, really ?

A luxury item where the technique and skills required can be coached relevant to the game they actually play in many ways without the need of a curved table.

I said before there are scenario's where asking for help is understandable but this isnt one of them
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 16:07

1970par I guarantee this outrage would be non existent if we hadn't lost our last 5 games.

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 16:10

Good post, Kenny.

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Date: Sun 19 Jan 15:13

Fair enough if that is the case GG but it read as if the request had come from the coaching staff.

I've gone back and read the OP and I can see why you thought that, PK. I still think the scenario I've painted is far more likely to be accurate.

Only Brian himself can clear that up, if he so wishes. I'll bet you he'll think twice before starting a similar thread though.

I can't help thinking that 1970 Par nails it above. If the Pars were doing well and looking like certainties for at least a play off spot, I'll bet the responses would have been far more amicable.



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Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 16:14

If the coaches think it's something to benefit the club, I'd have expected this to be formally requested through the board. Either this hasn't happened (If not, why?) or the board has told them we don't have the budget.

I get it - it's people trying to improve the situation we're in. However, this isn't comparable to the defib/van in that it's not really that essential, and with everything that's been put in already, you'd have thought we'd have found other channels for funds rather than another fans appeal.

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Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 16:18

Instead of asking for donations, why not run a raffle? £10 a ticket, winner gets a go on the table with 2/3 mates once the funds are raised.

At least it's giving something back to those contributing.
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Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 16:29

If I won £9 million on the lottery, I’d fork out for a Teqball table don’t worry.

Upon reflection....I still think it’s really bad timing, folk on here resigned to wanting to give Crawford the boot, the performances have been that bad.

We’ve lost to Edinburgh City, Arbroath, Stranraer can’t beat Alloa after multiple attempts and sit three points off the relegation playoff spots and we’ve been asked to put money towards an £800 Teqball table.

You have to acknowledge the timing isn’t exactly great.

Fair play to those that do donate and hope you reach the target sum but it’s not something I’m willing to entertain.

Unless I win the lottery of course.
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Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 16:30

Those who want to have their say have now done exactly that (and they have a right to do so) let’s put that aside now and concentrate the thread on those who would like to make a contribution to the fund

If I can equate it to the kit van situation, there was no money in the carefully put together budget for that particular item at the time and although it would have been a “Nice To Have” item to help Mo the club could not put the funding towards it so like this item we got people together to find funding

Sounds like this is a similar situation and we can help to fund this “Nice To Have” item which the coaching staff are saying will help the players

We need x 80 tenners so how many do you have now Brian
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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 16:34

Completely agree GG . I’ll apologise for having a go at the club/coaching staff as from the wording that’s how it looks. I feel bad for Brian as it would appear he has done this off his own back rather than coming directly from the club/staff.
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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 16:41

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Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 16:45

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Its quite concerning how out of touch with reality so many clearly are and I include the coaching staff in that

What an idiotic comment. Absolute rasper
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:01

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Pars Kebab, Sun 19 Jan 15:00

Completely agree WSK. If you dare to question anything that comes out of the club then you are attacked by the clique.


I dont know who the clique are but it's really not difficult to tear most of the points on here to shreds. Some folk seem to be really struggling to grasp that they aren't being asked to contribute to a toy and that donations aren't obligatory and our training equipment requirements are not tied to our results.

Some on here don't get to go to games but like to contribute to things like this as it makes them feel like they're making a positive contribution to the club. Some folk won't have any spare cash to make an donation and some folk will already feel they contribute enough through their ticket purchases, merchandising etc. All those opinions are fine, it's folks money they can spend it how they want.

The fact that folk are now moaning about not having some sort of approved message from the board to raise funds is comedy gold. Is anyone on here seriously suggesting they wouldn't be on here moaning their @rses off the request had come from the board directly?
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:03

Quote:

Berry, Sun 19 Jan 16:29

If I won £9 million on the lottery, I’d fork out for a Teqball table don’t worry.

Upon reflection....I still think it’s really bad timing, folk on here resigned to wanting to give Crawford the boot, the performances have been that bad.

We’ve lost to Edinburgh City, Arbroath, Stranraer can’t beat Alloa after multiple attempts and sit three points off the relegation playoff spots and we’ve been asked to put money towards an £800 Teqball table.

You have to acknowledge the timing isn’t exactly great.

Fair play to those that do donate and hope you reach the target sum but it’s not something I’m willing to entertain.

Unless I win the lottery of course.


Mate with the greatest of respect surely that means the team need as much help as they can get? You'd think a few of them would benefit from working on their technique.
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Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:07

1970par, I don't know. It was suggested to make it easier that money be paid to the dafc bank

There has been great support to help, but at moment don't know donations (though I know some), probably won't know until Tuesday. People probably don't want to post on here in case they get threatened. (Because that's what it feels like)



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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:10

Fair enough LPF. You are definitely not part of the clique that I was referring to. I’ve always found you to be a fairly well balanced poster whether I agree with you or not .
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:17

Thanks mate and I apologise if I've come across as being slightly aggressive at any point but I genuinely find some of the arguments on here completely soul destroying.

I can understand folk being hacked off at results and even more so that they wont want to contribute anything extra on what they already do but it's easy to just ignore the request in that case.
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:17

My biggest shock is that one of these tables costs 800 quid, how on earth do they cost that much?! The profit on one must be absolutely massive.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:20

Indeed there are, VEE, but do you honestly think the BoD would have held their hands up in horror at the very idea?

"Oh no, you can't do that, Brian. You'll upset all our loyal supporters on Dotnet."

........................................................................................................

Behave youself GG.

How could the board make any decision if they weren't approached through the proper channels ?

Which I presume was the case ?

Employees of DAFC have a line manager if they want to make a request, just like any other business or organisation etc.

However, if the board turned down such a request, made in the correct manner, then that becomes a different scenario and other avenues of finding the cash comes into the equation.



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Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:24

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Grant, Sun 19 Jan 17:17

My biggest shock is that one of these tables costs 800 quid, how on earth do they cost that much?! The profit on one must be absolutely massive.


They're over 2 grand
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Topic Originator: GG4  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:31

This thread..... Feck me.
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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:33

no Problem LPF. Results affect everything in football unfortunately . If we were on a 12 game winning streak I think that’s the coaching staff could ask for a lap dancing club to be installed outside the changing rooms and fans would happily pay for it.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:34

"They're over 2 grand"

That makes an £800 deal sound like a Del Boy or Arthur Daly job !!!
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:37

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Pars Kebab, Sun 19 Jan 17:33

no Problem LPF. Results affect everything in football unfortunately . If we were on a 12 game winning streak I think that’s the coaching staff could ask for a lap dancing club to be installed outside the changing rooms and fans would happily pay for it.


If we can apply parathletics fan usage suggestion to that idea...
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:42

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da_no_1, Sun 19 Jan 16:07

1970par I guarantee this outrage would be non existent if we hadn't lost our last 5 games.


Would we be clamouring for a toy if it had been give wins on the bounce?

I Hope You're Ok Today....
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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:42

I agree LPF. I actually think it would be a morale booster for the squad and also may help us attract players. Morally bankrupt players perhaps but good ones nonetheless.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:43

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Rastapari, Sun 19 Jan 17:42

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da_no_1, Sun 19 Jan 16:07

1970par I guarantee this outrage would be non existent if we hadn't lost our last 5 games.


Would we be clamouring for a toy if it had been five wins on the bounce?


I Hope You're Ok Today....
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:47

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Rastapari, Sun 19 Jan 17:42

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da_no_1, Sun 19 Jan 16:07

1970par I guarantee this outrage would be non existent if we hadn't lost our last 5 games.


Would we be clamouring for a toy if it had been give wins on the bounce?


Clearly an expert on modern day coaching and training techniques now

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 17:56

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Pars Kebab, Sun 19 Jan 16:41

Da no1 I’m big enough to handle abuse from the likes of you . The point I was making is that a poster was carded for nothing yesterday yet you chget away with insult after insult. And let’s be clear if you were to speak to me like that in the street I’ll knock your head off your shoulders son.


Oh calm down. I might disagree with you on a lot of things but I'd never threaten you with violence.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 18:01

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Pars Kebab, Sun 19 Jan 17:42

I agree LPF. I actually think it would be a morale booster for the squad and also may help us attract players. Morally bankrupt players perhaps but good ones nonetheless.


I dont have any morals anyway let's do it 😂 Brian we've united the forum and have a counter proposal that might involve converting Legends..
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Topic Originator: AlfonzoBonzo  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 20:42

Should we get one of these tables for the forum? Help to boost morale

Show us yer....
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Topic Originator: Pars_1986  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 20:47

Is this Jackie Macs doing. Is he on commission for this table aswell and selling it to us to buy at mates rates 🤣🤣

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 20:47

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da_no_1, Sun 19 Jan 17:47

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Rastapari, Sun 19 Jan 17:42

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da_no_1, Sun 19 Jan 16:07

1970par I guarantee this outrage would be non existent if we hadn't lost our last 5 games.


Would we be clamouring for a toy if it had been give wins on the bounce?


Clearly an expert on modern day coaching and training techniques now


You seem rattled?
You want another go lad?

I Hope You're Ok Today....
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Topic Originator: Pars Kebab  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 20:49

Sorry Da No1. I was getting a bit wound up . No hard feelings . At the end of the day we are all pars fans and we all want the same thing . The forum gets absolutely mental when we are on a bad run and it’s hard to no get caught up in it all. My first dip in to .net was years ago ... a 5-0 gubbing from Hamilton at eep. Sol Bamba (PSG , Dunfermline , Hibs , Trabzonspor, Palermo , Leeds Utd and Cardiff) was absolutely shredded to bits . . In fairness he had a shocker but still . Supporters tend to react often with little real thought .
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 20:52

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Rastapari, Sun 19 Jan 20:47

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da_no_1, Sun 19 Jan 17:47

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Rastapari, Sun 19 Jan 17:42

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da_no_1, Sun 19 Jan 16:07

1970par I guarantee this outrage would be non existent if we hadn't lost our last 5 games.


Would we be clamouring for a toy if it had been give wins on the bounce?


Clearly an expert on modern day coaching and training techniques now


You seem rattled?
You want another go lad?


No really lad on both counts. Thanks for asking

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 20:53

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Pars Kebab, Sun 19 Jan 20:49

Sorry Da No1. I was getting a bit wound up . No hard feelings . At the end of the day we are all pars fans and we all want the same thing . The forum gets absolutely mental when we are on a bad run and it’s hard to no get caught up in it all. My first dip in to .net was years ago ... a 5-0 gubbing from Hamilton at eep. Sol Bamba (PSG , Dunfermline , Hibs , Trabzonspor, Palermo , Leeds Utd and Cardiff) was absolutely shredded to bits . . In fairness he had a shocker but still . Supporters tend to react often with little real thought .


Not a problem. Cheers

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 21:27

Maybe if the players put more effort in down at Stranraer in the cup then the club wouldn’t need to go out with the begging bowl
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Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 21:57

Having had my rant,will hand in a fiver through the week!
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Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 22:20

I received an email this evening from Tom Malcolmson who is the partner of the Late Margaret Ross, Tom is not particularly a Pars fan however as his email explains he still retains an interest in the club in Margaret’s memory

Please see his email which he gave me permission to copy

“Kenny,
i occasionally go onto DAFC.net, started when Margaret was not flavour of the month with a lot of people, would it help in the pointless bickering about this thread that I am sure that Margaret mentioned to me that Istvam Kozma was using it in Hungary.”

Now if we consider that this was now a few years ago can we perhaps agree on one thing, there does seem to be some benefit from having this item

If anyone was to doubt the word of the great Istvan Kozma then perhaps you should be looking to join the coaching staff



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Topic Originator: AlfonzoBonzo  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 22:31

To be fair, Ronaldinho is a better player than kozma. I’m not sure if the relevance here. I interpret the distain in this thread is due to 1) current apparent levels of morale and perceived player (un)motivation and 2) that may feel it’s an inappropriate request right now

Show us yer....
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Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles  
Date:   Sun 19 Jan 23:46

Absolutely ridiculous how hysterical this thread has got. I openly want Crawford out but I do not see the issue with a fan owned club to ask for funding for equipment that might help the team. If you do not want contribute don't do it.

Awight Pat!

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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 09:27

Maybe we can all chip in and buy a swing ball set to help the goalkeepers improve there technique in catching a ball too 😁
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Topic Originator: Kitman  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 14:08

Ladies and gentlemen I heave never taken part on . Net before but I feel I must explain what has happened on this thread.
I feel as if I have done Brian in with the way some of the so called fans have treated him.
This all came about with myself and greig shields over a period of time the teq ball table has been very prominent with nearly every senior club o any standing the guy who is the salesman for this piece of equipment used to work for Nike he would bring boots top of the range And others players could train in them with option of buying them. Or just try thenm and hand them back so over the years I have got to know him . So moving on he now sells the teq ball the starting price was £2500.00 plus vat and delivery told him no chance we could afford that he wS texting me all the time with deals then out of the blue table down to £799.00 inclusive of vat and free delivery we’ll that a deal if ever their was one.
Going back to discussion with greig at Dafc at the momment 15 youth players under 18 also two sometimes three days half a dozen fife wilted players come to train we then how much the young team would develop their touch and agility so that’s where it all started .
But and a big but I never told Brian the full story it was just a quick conversation
So I feeli ow Brian an apology for the treatment he has received from some of won’t name them you know your selves .
And just do finish we spoke about having completions with the fans as they were the one helping to pay for it hope this has set the record straight
Your kitman mohutton⚽️🍺
Evrybofy working together will get us out of this horrible run of results that we are going through thankyou🍺🍺
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 14:17

Well i think youve explained it very clearly kitman .
I am still down for 25 pounds I will arrange to have my son drop it of at EEP .
Sad that we have to go into so much BS for a simple request for DONATIONS .
Keep up the great work you and your team do Mo
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 14:51

Fair play to Mo for coming on and v sad that it came to that. Shows the relations between fans and club need worked on but also shows the benefit of not rushing to conclusions and living in the real world.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 15:04

Some of the so called fans on this forum really need to take a good long look at themselves.
Using a bad run of form to justify not having a utility that will benefit future Pars players as well as the present is quite frankly embarrassing.

If you only turn up to moan then do it elsewhere
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 15:20

AdamAntsParsStripe wrote:

> Some of the so called fans on this forum really need to take a
> good long look at themselves.
> Using a bad run of form to justify not having a utility that
> will benefit future Pars players as well as the present is
> quite frankly embarrassing.
>
>

It was explained earlier its nothing to do with the run of form its the morality of priviledged football players holding their hand out to theman in the street for a non-essential luxury item.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 15:29

WSK.But as explained the players didnt .
It was from kitman and as clearly explained asking for DONATION.
This is completly voluntery .
Many fans are donating and I am sure this will be purchased .
I think Kitman clearly explained but you come on blaming the players .
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 15:40

Anyone able to say how much has been donated or pledged
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 16:35

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Westies squint kicks, Tue 21 Jan 15:20

AdamAntsParsStripe wrote:

> Some of the so called fans on this forum really need to take a
> good long look at themselves.
> Using a bad run of form to justify not having a utility that
> will benefit future Pars players as well as the present is
> quite frankly embarrassing.
>

It was explained earlier its nothing to do with the run of form its the morality of priviledged football players holding their hand out to theman in the street for a non-essential luxury item.


If you read the Kitmans post, it's pretty clear it's nothing to do with the players.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 17:13

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Westies squint kicks, Tue 21 Jan 15:20

AdamAntsParsStripe wrote:

> Some of the so called fans on this forum really need to take a
> good long look at themselves.
> Using a bad run of form to justify not having a utility that
> will benefit future Pars players as well as the present is
> quite frankly embarrassing.
>

It was explained earlier its nothing to do with the run of form its the morality of priviledged football players holding their hand out to theman in the street for a non-essential luxury item.


Nothing to do with the players but it doesn't appear to fit in with your agenda, Westie. You seem to think they are an overpaid bunch of shysters who do very little to justify their vast salaries, other than swan about for 90 mins on a Saturday afternoon.



Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 17:25

For the avoidance of doubt, was this request put to the manager for the attention of the board prior to it “going public” on this forum ?

Wouldn’t that have been the routine protocol to follow ?
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 17:37

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Date: Tue 21 Jan 17:13

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Westies squint kicks, Tue 21 Jan 15:20

AdamAntsParsStripe wrote:

> Some of the so called fans on this forum really need to take a
> good long look at themselves.
> Using a bad run of form to justify not having a utility that
> will benefit future Pars players as well as the present is
> quite frankly embarrassing.
>

It was explained earlier its nothing to do with the run of form its the morality of priviledged football players holding their hand out to theman in the street for a non-essential luxury item.


Nothing to do with the players but it doesn't appear to fit in with your agenda, Westie. You seem to think they are an overpaid bunch of shysters who do very little to justify their vast salaries, other than swan about for 90 mins on a Saturday afternoon.

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GG wtf are you on about, you seem to have gone off on one. What agenda ?
I've said on the thread that I'd contribute in the right circumstances, in any case anybody that goes out their way to buy a season ticket contributes not to mention the other means of funding.

I've never said they were "overpaid shysters" thats something you've created.

However if you think that turning up for training at 9.30 4 days a week for 3 hours tops and then playing a match on a Tuesday or Saturday doesnt make them privileged you're not in the real world. Maybe if they had to wipe someone's ar5e for a short time they would appreciate how lucky they are.

I shouldn't have used the word players instead used the club generally but the whole ask is a pi55 take. What next one they need new boots ? There are situations when asking for funding is understandable but luxury items so the players can play a few games isn't one of them. They are taking advantage.
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 17:39

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GG Riva, Tue 21 Jan 17:13

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Westies squint kicks, Tue 21 Jan 15:20

AdamAntsParsStripe wrote:

> Some of the so called fans on this forum really need to take a
> good long look at themselves.
> Using a bad run of form to justify not having a utility that
> will benefit future Pars players as well as the present is
> quite frankly embarrassing.
>

It was explained earlier its nothing to do with the run of form its the morality of priviledged football players holding their hand out to theman in the street for a non-essential luxury item.


. You seem to think they are an overpaid bunch of shysters who do very little to justify their vast salaries.


When you put it like that...
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 17:48

There's already a scheme in place to sponsor players' kit as there will be at most clubs. You could argue this is just an extension of that. Players tend to be at clubs for very short terms now so can they really be expected to finance something which stays at the club when they move on?
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Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 17:50

Thanks Mo, surely there won’t be a single person who would aim any bad comments towards you.

This explains fully the rational behind the donations concept where people can volunteer to make a donation or not.

There really is no need to slaughter the players, the BOD, Brian or any other person who may think it’s worth making a small payment towards

If you don’t agree then “nothing to see here, just move along please”

Is it perhaps there are some who just like to make a bit of a song and dance about nothing
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 18:16

Kitman, if you came on here with the intention of pacifying the situation, then that's great but using terms such as "so called fans" might just have the opposite effect. . .

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 18:37

Why shouldn't the fans be criticised? Everyone else connected with the club seems to be fair game on here.
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Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 19:06

Ah well Mo, perhaps there is one person!
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Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 19:21

The positive thing here is that those who choose to criticise keep bumping it back to the top and therefore more people read the thread and consequently may choose to make a donation

Perhaps it’s a well thought through strategy!
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Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 19:25

Fair play for coming on and explaining the situation Mo.

I'm still of the opinion that the club should be funding this through current income, but if others want to contribute then fair play.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 19:42

Fair play to Mo for clearing everything up. Being an employee of the club, he probably has to be careful what he says, but I don't, and this thread illustrates perfectly the minority of negative, whining wee tadgers we have in our support. To me this seems like a fairly reasonable ask for what looks like a very useful tool to develop skills.
It is worth remembering that only a small proportion of our fans post on here, so I would like to see a bucket collection at the game v Dundee. If they were able to get a TV screen showing it in action alongside the collectors, I am sure the good Pars fans would be able to raise this amount no bother
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 19:44

''GG wtf are you on about, you seem to have gone off on one. What agenda ?
I've said on the thread that I'd contribute in the right circumstances, in any case anybody that goes out their way to buy a season ticket contributes not to mention the other means of funding.

I've never said they were "overpaid shysters" thats something you've created.

However if you think that turning up for training at 9.30 4 days a week for 3 hours tops and then playing a match on a Tuesday or Saturday doesnt make them privileged you're not in the real world. Maybe if they had to wipe someone's ar5e for a short time they would appreciate how lucky they are.

I shouldn't have used the word players instead used the club generally but the whole ask is a pi55 take. What next one they need new boots ? There are situations when asking for funding is understandable but luxury items so the players can play a few games isn't one of them. They are taking advantage.''

Westie, I may well have misinterpreted your post, but I'm quite calm and certainly haven't ''gone off on one.'' It was this post that you made on Sunday:-

''The working man who grafts for 40+ hours a week is being asked to contribute to a fund so football players who get to kick a ball for 2/3 hours a day, 4 days a week and play a match on a Saturday can play a game of football tennis and some of you don't understand how some of us question that morally."

To me your post is dripping with envy and quite misinformed, in relation to a professional football career. Perhaps you were deliberately minimising the players daily routine - if so why? Anyone who wants to make it as a pro footballer has to be prepared to make a lot of sacrifices and work really hard besides. ''Kicking a ball a round for 2/3 hours a day'' doesn't begin to cover it. What about the afternoon workouts in the gym? What about the monastic lifestyles they lead, little or no socialising and strict diets? And that is no guarantee that they will make a decent living from a career that is unlikely to last more than 15-20 years, tops.

For sure, a footballer has a privileged career, but it comes at a cost. I'd have loved to have been a pro footballer - perhaps you would have, too. I wonder why neither of us chased the dream?



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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 20:58

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1970par, Tue 21 Jan 19:06

Ah well Mo, perhaps there is one person!


I'm not criticising him for coming on here to say his piece, just his use of words.

Surely you agree that can inflame the situation?
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Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 21:27

If there is one thing this thread has proved, it is that there is a massive divide between the board/club and a lot of fans and this is something that seriously needs to be worked on. I have to say, I never saw this coming when we were taken over by fans of the club who claim to have the clubs best interests at heart. I don’t know how this can be repaired but something needs to be done. I don’t even think the Masterton years were as bad as this.
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Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 21:30

There are numerous statements on this thread which are inflaming the situation, this particular one is suiting the agendas of those who disagree with the initiative

Yet again the very simple solution is if you dont agree then just ignore the thread, there won’t be a need to be inflamed
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 21:37

Both the timing and the way this has been done is a bit of a head scratcher.....however

Why not get it opened up to the punters for a wee tournament, get a few players involved too, get entry fee / prize pot and it would offset at least some of the 800 quid.

Could surely make up 64 folk (32 senior/reserve/youth players) and 32 punters, in a knockout format tenner a skull. Logistics & format might be tricky with one single table but it could work. Be great to help bridge this connection and gap between fans v club which seems to be apparent again in recent weeks and months.

Used to have heady tennis tournaments like this as a laddie with my team and it was great fun.

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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."


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Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 21:42

Brilliant idea TAFKA.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 21:47

GG it’s not misinformed, I’m well aware of the day to day livings of a professional football player having one in the family and it’s nothing like the ordeal you suggest not has it ever been. “Strict diets”- they’re not cutting weight for a fight they’re eating well to recover from training or fuelling the next session.
“Monastic lifestyle”, what in Costa in everyday ?
“Little or no socialising”, suggest you follow a few of them on Instagram.

You obviously work for Dunfermline so I wouldn’t expect anything else from you but these guys are lucky to have found a career in football, granted at our level they can be on the move one season to the next but there’s no denying that turning up for 3 hours “work” 4 days a week is a walk in the park compared to 99% of jobs and for that they are privileged.
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Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 21:48

Gees this thread has kicked off since I last looked at it.

For the record I’ve not once criticised Brian, he’s helping the club, I get that and I’ve not personally attacked anyone so I’m hoping none of the comments above are really targeted at me.

Perhaps I was more flippant than I should’ve been over the ask for the table (ok i definitely was), I can see the potential benefit if it’s for the youngsters, visualising Devine & Ashcroft on the table was giving me the shivers and the giggles.

The summary from Mo makes sense and is a good opportunity to get it on the cheap and one that likely won’t come along too often. Although I do agree with MickeyLeonard with the wording of ‘so called fans’ that was unnecessary and a bit disheartening, sure it wasn’t intentional but one thing we all have in common is we love our club, that’s why some of us get irate about things, if the club didn’t mean anything we wouldn’t give a toss so I hope Mo does take that back.

Some feedback, and please don’t take this as a dig, I mean this sincerely, at a time when we’re in a bit of a rut and struggling, we need to try and land these messages better for the plea of help as when tensions are high some of us including myself jumped at it and picked up the wrong end of the stick.

‘I’m going every week to watch them and it’s been painful on the eyes at times and they are reaching out for donations for a Teqball table’ that was my immediate reaction, as if that was really going to help turn our fortunes around. Timing of the request could’ve been better (but agree you can’t do anything about that) and a bit of a kick in the teeth when so many of my weekends have been tarnished watching some inept football at times.

I personally still think a Teqball table is a more luxury fun item than one that I see truly benefitting us, if we’ve not learnt touch and technique on the training ground I’d struggle to see the table really making much difference but I’m not a coach nor got the experience so if the club would like one, then go for it and hope you get the funds you need.

Personally I’ll apologise if anyone really did get offended by anything and I’ll make a conscious effort to avoid petty immediate reactions, reflect more before posting a hopefully more balanced message regardless if I agree with you guys or not.



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Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 22:06

Good post Berry, hindsight is not something most of us are blessed with and things don’t always pan out or are interpreted as we think they are meant

Let’s try to keep things sensible and in perspectives

Peace to all men, Teqtable or not!
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 22:13

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1970par, Tue 21 Jan 21:30

There are numerous statements on this thread which are inflaming the situation, this particular one is suiting the agendas of those who disagree with the initiative

Yet again the very simple solution is if you dont agree then just ignore the thread, there won’t be a need to be inflamed


So, do you agree or disagree that the term 'so called fans' might not be appropriate in this instance ?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 23:05

It's perfectly appropriate in my opinion. This thread is one of many that highlight it.

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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 21 Jan 23:08

"Yet again the very simple solution is if you dont agree then just ignore the thread, there won’t be a need to be inflamed"

If fans perceive a flaw in a proposal then they should express such an opinion - as long as it is made in an acceptable manner.
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 00:46

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da_no_1, Tue 21 Jan 23:05

It's perfectly appropriate in my opinion. This thread is one of many that highlight it.


Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 02:02

TBH, I had never heard of a TeqTable until this thread.

But it does seem to be becoming fashionable at bigger clubs, so if DAFC were to have one then it is likely to be one more small thing that will make the club more attractive to young players coming on loan from those bigger clubs - which seems to be an essential part of the current recruitment strategy.

As wee eck says, it's unrealistic to expect players to contribute when they are quite probably going to move to another club within 1-2 seasons. And it wouldn't have been in DAFC's budget for this year, so to take advantage of the opportunity that Mo has clearly explained, it really is down to the fanbase.

I'm happy to chip in, but please, Brian - make it easy for people. Publish the bank sort code and account number you want the money paid to, or at least provide marked buckets/receptacles on Friday for fans to put contributions in, and tell us all beforehand where they are. A direct approach to the 1885 Business Club members might not go amiss either, as not all will read this forum.

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 02:53

Ffs .If there is a senior members of footballing staff identifies a specific piece of equipment that can be benificial to the club at a third of the price ,and knows its not in the budget and suggests to put it out to pars fans for donations ( this is voluntery) not adding it to your season tkt or gate price or taking out your pocket .

Congrats to them for considering
Putting it out there for the fans to donate should they wish the more initiatives we have to support the club the better and as already explained the key word is DONATIONS .

If you are not interested move on and let others who wish donate like myself get on with it .

Too many on this forum in negativity mode we are supports and supporters help the club in anyway they can .

Stop bitching DONATE or simply move on and let others who do want to donate .
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 06:23

Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks like | nolike
Date: Tue 21 Jan 21:47

GG it’s not misinformed, I’m well aware of the day to day livings of a professional football player having one in the family and it’s nothing like the ordeal you suggest not has it ever been. “Strict diets”- they’re not cutting weight for a fight they’re eating well to recover from training or fuelling the next session.
“Monastic lifestyle”, what in Costa in everyday ?
“Little or no socialising”, suggest you follow a few of them on Instagram.

You obviously work for Dunfermline so I wouldn’t expect anything else from you but these guys are lucky to have found a career in football, granted at our level they can be on the move one season to the next but there’s no denying that turning up for 3 hours “work” 4 days a week is a walk in the park compared to 99% of jobs and for that they are privileged.

Fair enough, Westie. As always in these ''debates'', the truth lies somewhere in the middle. You've played down the commitment and dedication aspiring footballers have to make and I've probably exaggerated it. Certainly, they have a privileged life compared to say miners, back in the day, but it's no lark in the park.

To be pedantic, I don't ''work'' for the club, I'm a volunteer who organises and coordinates the school visits - now that is a cakewalk compared to being a footballer. :-) I regard this as a real privilege as it allows me to get to know the players and get an insight into their daily working lives. I don't agree that they're ''lucky to have found a career in football'', they've earned it and they have to keep earning it on a daily basis, because it's very competitive. An injury or loss of form will immediately see one of your team mates taking your jersey and you might not get it back. On top of that, it's a short career and none of our players will be able to retire with the money they make out of it.

I'm surprised you have such a jaundiced view of footballers, given you have one in your family - any chance you can share his name with us? Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that some of them have a flashy car? Bear in mind most of them are only laddies and they're handing over a fair whack of their wages in HP instalments every month. (I'd have loved a flashy car at their age but couldn't afford one - now I can, but I'm happy with a reliable, unpretentious model.) I don't follow them on social media, btw.



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Topic Originator: oapar  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 06:34

Exactly RA said the same 3 days ago. If you don't want to help just move on, please stop moaning it is getting boring now.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 09:00

"Ffs .If there is a senior members of footballing staff identifies a specific piece of equipment that can be benificial to the club at a third of the price ,and knows its not in the budget and suggests to put it out to pars fans for donations ( this is voluntery) not adding it to your season tkt or gate price or taking out your pocket".

That's not how it works, or should work.

What's the point in having a treasurer (and a manager and directorate) if backroom staff circumvent the financial decision making process and go to another party with a DIY fund raising request ?

What happens if the collection doesn't meet the £800 ?

That is probably unlikely - but what if it realises more than the intended target ?

My gut feeling is that this has not been thought through - for starters, who "decided" the club couldn't meet the funding request if approached.



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Topic Originator: dave67  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 09:32

I'll try and drop some money into the club on Friday

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 10:24

Quote:

veteraneastender, Wed 22 Jan 09:00

"Ffs .If there is a senior members of footballing staff identifies a specific piece of equipment that can be benificial to the club at a third of the price ,and knows its not in the budget and suggests to put it out to pars fans for donations ( this is voluntery) not adding it to your season tkt or gate price or taking out your pocket".

That's not how it works, or should work.

What's the point in having a treasurer (and a manager and directorate) if backroom staff circumvent the financial decision making process and go to another party with a DIY fund raising request ?

What happens if the collection doesn't meet the £800 ?

That is probably unlikely - but what if it realises more than the intended target ?

My gut feeling is that this has not been thought through - for starters, who "decided" the club couldn't meet the funding request if approached.


Obviously you dont agree so simlpy move on and allow people donate .
Reading between the lines seems you dont trust the intent .
This is simply my opinion .

If your not donating or intend too move on
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Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 12:12

Maybe if the opening paragraph had mentioned it was for youth players and youngsters coming through not necessarily the first team the thread (and my response included) wouldn't have been so heated

Mo certainly cleared up who it was for, the nice deal opportunity and some of the benefits including just trying to be on par with some other clubs.

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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 15:02

"Obviously you dont agree so simlpy move on and allow people donate .
Reading between the lines seems you dont trust the intent .
This is simply my opinion .

If your not donating or intend too move on"

Nothing to do with anybody's intent.

Everything to do with as to how we got to a point where "the club" are passing the hat to fund a piece of kit that the backroom staff claim is necessary to help them perform their job of developing players.

Maybe somebody/anybody could clarify if a funding request was referred to the manager and/or the board for consideration - and, if so, what was the response ?

If it was knocked back - that's a different scenario, and pluadits to the well intentioned fans for their initiative.
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Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 15:32

Jings, are you still harping on about this ??
Why ? And why do you need to know every detail, oh, just so you can moan about it

Grow up and move on if you have nothing reasonable to say

I gave up reading this thread 2 days ago,
I'll see Mo on Friday and see where we are.



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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 16:24

Brian - why are you so defensive when a simple question has been posed ?
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 16:32

Why should Brian not be defensive and be verbally attacked on this forum .

All he did with good intentions was try to support our club .
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Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 16:46

and clearly didnt give up reading it..... seeing as you just posted

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Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 18:39

Veteraneastender = broken record, it’s all been explained fully, move along now, move along
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 18:42

"it’s all been explained fully,"

Where ?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 18:47

For a supposed veteran you're acting like a wee laddie. Give it a rest

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Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 21:56

Johan Cruyff

As explained, I didn't read the thread but thought to post about needing to speak to Mo about what's raised, as some key asked me a question about that


I don't see the need about people being smart a r s e s

I realised a long time ago to try and rise above it.

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Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 22:01

Sorry, I shouldn't

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Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Wed 22 Jan 22:12

If I remember correctly there used to be some collecting cans on the clubs bars etc, it said “Managers Fund” Or something similar, people chucked their small change in and it went to the Manager to use at his discretion, I think it dried up as the club settled down after Admin

If you look at the other current hot topic thread “Centenary Club Lifeline Email’ you can see how I have offered up a means to revamp this via willing people offering to top up our Centenary Club donations and if there are any wins from the top up amalgamated tickets then this goes into the Coaching Staff Fund to purchase such items and the club wins through increased Centenary Club contributions

40 people topping up by a fiver a month puts £2400 in the Lifeline coffers and any win goes in the Coaching staff pot for items such as these

If anyone does not like the idea, no problem, no need to comment, there may be some who do though!
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 00:56

1970par .Your a brave man suggestinfg ways to raise funds to support the club ,Have you not learnt from all these post how bad an idea that is 😂i certainly hope youve passed it through congress ,I mean the BOD and .net posters on here.
Well done too you ,now get ready for the backlash
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 01:01

Brian .
Due to all the negativity on this forum ,please check with MO and identify how much donations and pledgies he has and how far we are from the 800 pounds by Friday .
Whatever the deficit I will personaly make up .
Sick to the stomach on some of these childish comments by people attacking others trying to support our club. Tell MO to put a booking on the table and hold .
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Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 01:11

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1970par, Wed 22 Jan 22:12

If I remember correctly there used to be some collecting cans on the clubs bars etc, it said “Managers Fund” Or something similar, people chucked their small change in and it went to the Manager to use at his discretion


That's more or less correct. We had cans with Allan Johnston's face on them and marked "Manager's Fund", in the Club Shop and in the bars in the function suites. The money was used by AJ and his coaching team for things they thought beneficial but which hadn't been budgeted for - a TeqTable would have been a perfect example.

The cans are still around, but the artwork would need re-vamped! :)

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Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 01:14

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Whatever the deficit I will personaly make up ......
Tell MO to put a booking on the table and hold .


What a fantastic gesture!

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Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 07:44

RiggerlAl, top man mate, brilliant gesture and really great to see how we can create positivity from negativity

The many projects I have been proud to have been involved with and associated with for the club and related charities etc have raised £165,000 plus, do you really think that a few people who may be a bit pissed of at the club would put us off

Yes we all get that there are people who are a bit disenfranchised with the team they watch (and hopefully still love) at the moment, perhaps the BOD could be doing a bit more to invest in the relationship with the fans. Maybe the team will turn the corner soon, maybe they won’t. Maybe Stevie Crawford will be the manager a year from now, maybe not????

What is important is that we realise that we all support the club in different ways, some do lots and some just want to turn up on match day and back the team that way, however you give your backing is fine. We do all of course have the right to voice our concerns and it’s healthy that we do so in the correct manner

What we don’t want is people detracting from the efforts of others (the berating of Brian is a bit over the top on this thread) what is the point in that? Allow those who take the initiative to do their bit. Should you want to make comment then that’s fine but make your point and then stand back and try not to derail the initiative in question

During the clubs darkest days we all pulled in the same direction, that was the right thing to do at that time, the force has weakened a little however we need to retain that spirit and sometimes just take a little time to reflect before jumping on our keyboards

Peace and love all Pars fans, we are stronger together
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Topic Originator: Connor560  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 09:25

Great gesture Rigger Al!

C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 09:28

Well done, Rigger. It's people like you who make this club, not all the moaners.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 09:29

Great to see we still have some good people in amongst the wallopers
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 09:56

+1 to the people adding their thanks Al.
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 10:56

Sending ye ma Christmas list, Rigger Al 😂

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Topic Originator: oapar  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 11:09

Well done RA and all who have pledged donations.

I hope all the poisonous posters are choking on their negativity now that the object of the well intentioned plea has been achieved. Good triumphs over evil every time.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 17:19

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oapar, Thu 23 Jan 11:09

Well done RA and all who have pledged donations.

I hope all the poisonous posters are choking on their negativity now that the object of the well intentioned plea has been achieved. Good triumphs over evil every time.


Somewhat dramatic princess...

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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 19:06

We have to get some footage up of them trying it,it'll be hilarious.
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Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 19:36

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kozmasrightfoot, Thu 23 Jan 19:06

We have to get some footage up of them trying it,it'll be hilarious.


Bring it out onto the pitch at half time. Our best player against theIrs.

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Topic Originator: thaldane  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 19:47

Well done Rigger Al
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 19:48

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oapar, Thu 23 Jan 11:09

Well done RA and all who have pledged donations.

I hope all the poisonous posters are choking on their negativity now that the object of the well intentioned plea has been achieved. Good triumphs over evil every time.



Bloody hell.
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