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 Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 16:04

For anybody interested and who may have missed it yesterday morning - Steven Pressley's comments.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000dh1h

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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: Livingston Par  
Date:   Thu 23 Jan 22:42

Presumably a Falkirk player he was talking about?
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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Fri 24 Jan 09:50

It would seem so.
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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Fri 24 Jan 10:58

A few seasons back we travelled up to play Forfar on Boxing Day, anyone who went will remember it, horrible cold wet day. At the time one of our players was a long term injury (it'll be easy enough for you to work out ) and he was sat in stand during the game, instead of watching the game he had the racing on his phone.
Having spoken to and dealt with a lot of ex-pro's they tended to be of the opinion that the hours footballers "worked" leant itself to gambling. Essentially finish at lunchtime before the racing started and as it was then off to the bookies, some of the older boys on here will remember local betting shops frequented with pro's who at the time were quite high profile players.
Of course gambling has evolved with technology and there is no longer the need to stand in a betting shop to have a bet.



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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Fri 24 Jan 13:12

I'm actually shocked more match fixing doesn't occur. If there was a gambling culture in a club, it would be fairly easy to have players with a habit, get in debt, and be given a way out of it by influencing results
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Fri 24 Jan 15:20

"Of course gambling has evolved with technology and there is no longer the need to stand in a betting shop to have a bet."

Nor have ready cash in your pocket, or what you can scrounge off your teammates in the bookies as in the past.

The ban on credit card betting, soon to be implemented, is one positive move.
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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 24 Jan 16:54

Nearly ran over a Championship manager last week as he was heading for the bookies!🤠

Sorry, wrong hat!😏
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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Fri 24 Jan 17:15

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Fri 24 Jan 16:54

Nearly ran over a Championship manager last week as he was heading for the bookies!🤠

Sorry, wrong hat!😏


Were you looking for a Bunnet Emoji?
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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Fri 24 Jan 17:39

Pal of mine worked at the Ladbrokes near Tynecastle and told me this bloke would come in around the same time every Friday with 15-20 paper coupons written out for the weekend football and about 4 or 5 grand cash in his pocket to cover them all individually divied up with elastic bands.

Stevie wonder would have been able to see it was a 'runner' for all the players and staff up the road but other than having to phone through HQ to get the bigger wagers approved nobody ever batted an eyelid.

That was 11 or 12 years ago. It will be rife at every club guaranteed.

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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sat 25 Jan 07:15

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5205855/elgin-city-kane-hester-hibs-betting-scam-league-cup/

Ross Jack's club had a couple of players banned last month too

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/highland-league/1919789/rothes-boss-jack-hit-like-ton-of-bricks-by-pairs-gambling-bans/

Must be a few players looking over their shoulder after these developments.
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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 26 Jan 07:11

Apparently, the UK gambled £65 billion on football last year. That's quite an amazing stat when you consider that the NHS has a budget of £110 billion. BET365's CEO pocketed a whopping £257 million. The government are planning to introduce a ban on advertising, as happened with tobacco.

About time, too.



Not your average Sunday League player.
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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sun 26 Jan 09:07

I wholeheartedly agree that betting advertising should be banned. But it is probably too late. With the Internet, the genie has well and truly left the bottle.

ABC Radio in Australia recently revealed the behaviour of bet365 in a programme called Background Briefing.

Essentially, the programme alleged that the business model employed by the company ruthlessly banned or moderated the activities of successful winning gamblers while actively encouraging losers to spend more. As with so much in business today, it's all about algorithms.

Here's a link to the programme, because if you happen to be a gambler, then you really should be aware of how and why the odds can be stacked so heavily against you.

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/stacked-gambling-odds--australia/11769234



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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sun 26 Jan 09:13

OzPar wrote:

> I wholeheartedly agree that betting advertising should be
> banned. But it is probably too late.
>
> ABC Radio in Australia recently blew open the shocking
> behaviour of Bet365 in a programme called Background Briefing.
>
>
> Essentially, the programme alleged that the business model
> employed by the company ruthlessly cuts out winning gamblers
> while encouraging losers to spend more.
>
> I will provide a link to the programme, because if you happen
> to be a gambler, then you really should know how and why the
> odds are stacked so heavily against you.
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/stacked-gambling-odds--australia/11769234


Oz thats the business model that bookmakers operate over here and have done for the last two decades at least. In fact you don't have to win to get barred just bet the "right" or "warm" selections is enough to get you restricted. Meanwhile display "mug" tendencies and you'll be well looked after.
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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 26 Jan 09:22

All the bookies ban winning players or players that know how to maximise their returns on the offers that they run.

I've been gubbed by bet365 for kicking the @rse out of their racing promo which they've subsequently scaled back.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/pals-thought-theyd-won-23400-17611494

For me examples like the one above are absolute shockers. Bookies shouldn't accept bets that are outside of their terms and conditions and when they do they should take hit for it as it's their error. You can guarantee that had the lads bet not come in they wouldn't have been getting any money back.

Pretty poor that the independent ombudsman didnt force them to honour the bet.

The same applies to bets that can potentially exceed the maximum payout for a bookie. They shouldn't be allowed to accept a wager that would allow a return greater than what they would pay if the bet came in.
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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sun 26 Jan 09:30

There is no way you can beat the bookies, I have had several online accounts closed down. You don't even have to be winning huge amounts, or winning all the time, but if they notice a pattern in your betting then they will stop taking bets. They only want the mug gamblers
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 Re: Gambling in Scottish Football
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 26 Jan 11:02

Yeah it is surprising how little you have to be up before they shut your accounts.
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