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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Wed 15 Apr 18:30
So why aren’t they ending all leagues - what’s different with the Top league?
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Wed 15 Apr 18:31
Appointing Ann Budge (along with Hamiltons chair Les Gray) to jointly lead a reconstruction task force, no conflict of interest there then.
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Topic Originator: GEW35
Date: Wed 15 Apr 18:35
Quote:
buffy, Wed 15 Apr 18:28
SPFL Resolution Approved By Clubs In All Four Divisions.
Full details :
https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-resolution-approved-by-clubs-in-all-four-di
Great stuff by Dundee eh?! Voted on Friday as a no then, following discussions between them & the spfl board they’re now a yes. What gives them the right to a special audience? An absolute disgrace if Partick go down, 2 points off QOS with a game in hand - shocking. I don’t know why I bother with the football tbh...
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Topic Originator: 1970par
Date: Wed 15 Apr 18:35
What that I can smell!
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Wed 15 Apr 18:57
That stinks, I bet hearts won’t be in the championship next season
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Wed 15 Apr 18:59
Yeah. That’s me done with Scottish football.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:02
I won't be back.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:05
Correct decision even if it took them this long
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:07
I’ll see how I get in trying to get a full refund on my 2019/2020 season ticket. Don’t hold out much hope but will give it my best
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:11
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Wed 15 Apr 19:05
Correct decision even if it took them this long
Would you be saying that if we were where Partick are just now?
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:12
Pars_andy I have no idea if you're being a super troll or not.
But, every game you attended was played in the spirit it was intended as a competitive league fixture. We won some, we lost some, we drew some. I have absolutely no idea why you think the club or SFL owe you anything for August thru to today. Arguably you paid for x number of games and you're gonna be a couple short but, for me, the club fulfilled all their contracted games they were allowed to play this season. I have no idea why there would be any recourse to that. Each to their own of course and you're entitled to your opinion and ask for whatever you feel is fair but I'm just not anywhere near that reality or cloud you are living on.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:16
Quote:
pars_andy, Wed 15 Apr 19:07
I’ll see how I get in trying to get a full refund on my 2019/2020 season ticket. Don’t hold out much hope but will give it my best
Put your rod away
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:16
I don’t suspect I’ll have much luck getting a full refund although I believe I am morally entitled to it. At any cost I will request it as a protest at the decision my club made. I certainly believe I am entitled to a refund for the remaining league games however and I will follow every avenue to ensure that I get it. I wan’t no part of this club any more.
Post Edited (Wed 15 Apr 19:21)
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:19
What an absolute cluster f*ck of a governing body
Dundee you have lost forever any self esteem and integrity that you probably did not have anyway
Your club are now the laughing stock of Scottish Football and will remain so
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:20
Why single them out. Dunfermline voted the same way?
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Topic Originator: BigJPar
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:22
Quote:
pars_andy, Wed 15 Apr 19:16
I don’t suspect I’ll have much luck getting a full refund although I believe I am morally entitled to it. At any cost I will request it as a protest at the decision my club made. I certainly believe I am entitled to a refund for the remaining league games however and I will follow every avenue to ensure that I get it. I won’t no part of this club any more.
Coming across as a big bairn. Spat the dummy.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:25
For me that was always the correct decision to be made but how it was approached was horrendous. It was really amateurish.
What I cannot believe is that they have put Ann Budge in charge of the reconstruction project.
An absolute farce and a sham.
Whatever they come up with now the Jambos have got their get out of jail free card.
Doncaster and co. have clearly wet their pants over legal action and buttering her up by letting her lead this.
Scottish Football has hit a new low that I didn’t know existed.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:25
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Wed 15 Apr 19:11
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Wed 15 Apr 19:05
Correct decision even if it took them this long
Would you be saying that if we were where Partick are just now?
Partick will stay up there will be no relegation due to league reconstruction
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:28
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Topic Originator: pars_andy like | nolike
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:20
Why single them out. Dunfermline voted the same way?
Sorry pars_andy
I did not realise Dunfermline voted No then after a consultation with the governing body changed it to a yes ...my bad :(
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:29
No need for reconstruction right now unless we're talking an 18 team top league. Just now a token 2 team promotion is just to prevent the broken Hearts from dropping down.
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:30
“Coming across as a big bairn. Spat the dummy.“
Nah I’m just principled. And I won’t support unfairness just because of some blind allegiance. I wouldn’t have went back had the club voted sevco into the championship and, for me, this is a similarly rotten decision.
A few years back we all fought for the survival of the club and felt we had a new board who were going to run the club properly and do what was ‘right’. I genuinely wish I hadn’t bothered
Post Edited (Wed 15 Apr 19:32)
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:30
a get out of jail free card that requires a 11-1 vote to pass and presume its still 75% in favour in the other 3 leagues, good luck to Budge and Gray on that. not seen anything about a timescale it has to be done and voted by?
the correct decision has finally been reached though.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:34
An 11-1 vote that will be easy everyone except Rangers will vote yes providing it is the 14-10-10-10 proposal
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Topic Originator: storminNorman
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:41
pars andy on another thread you mentioned season ticket refunds and i pointed out that you should read the terms of the contract you have with DAFC when purchasing this ticket,have you done this?i'am asking only so any other supporter then has the info already at hand.
it may be that you can claim the remainder of home games not completed as a refund and no doubt the club will honour that part of the contract.
on you now not returning to Scottish football or to see the Pars that is your choice and you make choices but remember you stick your neck out on a fans forum in the heat of the moment and it makes it tough to go back once you realise its not as easy when the football returns but it does get easier as the months go by and you don't miss it as much.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:45
Quote:
pars_andy, Wed 15 Apr 19:30
“Coming across as a big bairn. Spat the dummy.“
Nah I’m just principled. And I won’t support unfairness just because of some blind allegiance. I wouldn’t have went back had the club voted sevco into the championship and, for me, this is a similarly rotten decision.
A few years back we all fought for the survival of the club and felt we had a new board who were going to run the club properly and do what was ‘right’. I genuinely wish I hadn’t bothered
Just go then and stop bubbling about it.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 15 Apr 19:48
He's done with Scottish football. I bet he's not done with boring the erse off everyone on here.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Wed 15 Apr 20:03
Yeah I’m done with that too
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Wed 15 Apr 20:06
So if you're done with the club and done with Scottish football... I assume you wish your account deleted?
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Wed 15 Apr 20:12
Yep. Happy with that.
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Topic Originator: Blackandwhiteblood
Date: Wed 15 Apr 20:18
I have, and won't be alone having missed 8 matches whilst in hospital ( not corona virus ), and now the last 4 because of a world wide illness.
Who would I claim to. Pars Andy maybe. Anybody who claims anything will find it hard, and as for pars Andy, you should have a red face knowing your daft words will be read by some very I'll pars fans where the least concern is missing games on a season ticket.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 15 Apr 20:28
Admin should really have given Andy some breathing space here.
We all rant and rave and sometimes regret things we say and perhaps Widtink as an admin should have kept out of this for now.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Wed 15 Apr 20:33
Too late... The deed is done.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Wed 15 Apr 20:49
Tbf people will be due refunds for hospitality etc for they 3 games we are missing out on, no sure what the big deal is if someone is highlighting it
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 15 Apr 20:52
widtink is there a way I could speak to you privately ?
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Wed 15 Apr 20:52
I agree with AAPS, Admin has been a bit too quick off the mark in inviting pars andy to use the exit door.
I appreciate once he has made a request to delete the account that request has to be honoured, but some time for reflection should have been offered, rather than taking immediate action.
I'm sure it's not easy doing Admin work, and by and large I think the guys do a good job - but here, not so much, sorry. Dundee FC were given a lot more time to change their vote than pars andy was!
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Wed 15 Apr 20:53
Quote:
Buspasspar, Wed 15 Apr 20:52
widtink is there a way I could speak to you privately ?
My email is in my profile mate.
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Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff
Date: Wed 15 Apr 20:57
He's been threatening to leave and fishing for days now,put up or shut up.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 15 Apr 21:01
e-mail sent widtink
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 15 Apr 21:10
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Wed 15 Apr 20:28
Admin should really have given Andy some breathing space here.
We all rant and rave and sometimes regret things we say and perhaps Widtink as an admin should have kept out of this for now.
He's been at it for weeks now. Sometimes it's best to walk away for your own sanity. Widtink has done him a favour. He can always register again if he so wishes.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 15 Apr 21:15
Quote:
jake89, Wed 15 Apr 21:10
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Wed 15 Apr 20:28
Admin should really have given Andy some breathing space here.
We all rant and rave and sometimes regret things we say and perhaps Widtink as an admin should have kept out of this for now.
He's been at it for weeks now. Sometimes it's best to walk away for your own sanity. Widtink has done him a favour. He can always register again if he so wishes.
Fair enough but he's been on this forum as long as anyone and particularly now, frustrations are more apparent.
I happen to disagree with his views on this matter but I respect the right to let out some steam without admin inviting them to leave even before a member asks for it.
Lots of stress in the country right now and some slack is required imo.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Wed 15 Apr 21:21
Quote:
GEW35, Wed 15 Apr 18:35
An absolute disgrace if Partick go down, 2 points off QOS with a game in hand - shocking. I don’t know why I bother with the football tbh...
If you choose not to count the point they won in the final game of the season, four minutes into injury time with an offside goal scored after a foul on the keeper they'd be three points behind with a worse goal difference.
We'd also not be dropping a place and losing a load of cash at the same time.
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Post Edited (Wed 15 Apr 21:22)
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Wed 15 Apr 21:29
Quote:
Stanza, Wed 15 Apr 20:52
I agree with AAPS, Admin has been a bit too quick off the mark in inviting pars andy to use the exit door.
I appreciate once he has made a request to delete the account that request has to be honoured, but some time for reflection should have been offered, rather than taking immediate action.
I'm sure it's not easy doing Admin work, and by and large I think the guys do a good job - but here, not so much, sorry. Dundee FC were given a lot more time to change their vote than pars andy was!
I agree, sorry Widtink but there was no need to offer the closing of his account. Seems to me you might have been a wee bit peeved with some of his recent posts which resulted in your 'offer' ?
I've no doubt you'll say differently though 😂
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Wed 15 Apr 21:31
I asked if he wanted his account deleted... I didn't twist his arm.
He chose yes.. His choice.
He could always reregister if he wishes to come back on... After all.. He hasn't broken any rules.
I can't reactivate an account after it's been deleted unfortunately though so it's in his hands... If he reregisters he will be allowed back on.
Stay safe
Regards
Widders
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Topic Originator: AlfonzoBonzo
Date: Wed 15 Apr 22:05
Just see who survives financially and make that the league
Show us yer.... 
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Wed 15 Apr 22:10
So we actually finish 6th according to sky sports news and Arbroath finish 5th? Looks like it has been carried out on average points per game rather than your total.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 15 Apr 22:24
It has been.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Wed 15 Apr 23:20
Board statement HERE
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Wed 15 Apr 23:41
Surely Ann Budge is a conflict of interest in regards to reconstruction,as her club is due to be relegated
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Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles
Date: Wed 15 Apr 23:51
Quote:
Rigger Al, Wed 15 Apr 23:41
Surely Ann Budge is a conflict of interest in regards to reconstruction,as her club is due to be relegated
Exactly what I was thinking. The whole thing is an absolute shambles anyway but this makes me think that League Reconstruction in the Premier League is almost an inevitably. If Patrick and Stranraer are relegated Hearts deserve to go down too. It shouldn't be one rule for one and another for the rest.
Awight Pat!
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Thu 16 Apr 00:49
I can't get onboard with any of the outrage about this issue whatsoever. Like, on no level is it even registering on the emotional scale at all.
If you run a company then you have a responsibility to look after that company first and foremost and that includes your right to vote. Otherwise it wouldn't be a vote. I don't envy running a football club at the best of times, let alone one who traditionally flits between leagues. Jesus, can you imagine the pressure of variable income, contracts, fan sentiment etc. Total nightmare.
Scottish football as a governing entity is fundamentally bent as hell and almost as incompetent but why should that be a surprise in 2020?
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 16 Apr 01:03
For the record im all for reconstuction
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Topic Originator: Sliema Par
Date: Thu 16 Apr 07:33
I was very impressed by the Board statement and relieved the Directors were unanimous.
They have been as transparent as ever keeping us informed throughout.
Let no one be in any doubt that our club has suffered.We have dropped one position with the financial hit that entails.
There was a good chance we would have made the Premiership Play Offs given our key players would have returned.
We must now take every opportunity to bring about League Reconstruction.
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Thu 16 Apr 08:21
Quote:
Rigger Al, Thu 16 Apr 01:03
For the record im all for reconstuction
^^^^ As am I Rigger. I also want a fairer and closer distribution of funds across all the league's in the hope that it creates more competition throughout.
We should be marketing the concept of a more competitive league to sponsors and broadcasters and shifting some of the emphasis off the old firm.
The emphasis should be on fairness.
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Thu 16 Apr 08:27
Unfortunately, the broadcasters and sponsors would be happy if the Old Firm played each other every week. No amount of marketing will change that
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Thu 16 Apr 13:01
Sky will not want to miss 4 Edinburgh derbies either, so with that and Ann Budge in charge it’s slam dunk imo
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Topic Originator: Sliema Par
Date: Thu 16 Apr 13:58
DunfyDave hits the nail on the head.
It is not just League Reconstruction we need.
It is a more equitable income distribution.
Was there anything more ludicrous than the Championship Clubs only receiving 11.7% of the income from BBC Scotland's Friday evening "Championship Sportscene" the popularity and audience figures for which surprised even the BBC?
How do we achieve it when the self interest of little Premiership Clubs stifles innovation from the outset?
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