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 Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Fri 8 May 09:29

Kelty Hearts now says Brechin chairman told the second Division clubs that ICT were going to vote yes there fore there was no point in any division 2 teams voting no ,this of course led to Brechin not being relegated.
https://twitter.com/KeltyHeartsFC/status/1258510956344164353?s=09

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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Fri 8 May 11:06

Well if what someone told him about what someone else was doing influenced his vote then that's stupidity of the highest order and there's no point crying about it now.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: Parahandy  
Date:   Fri 8 May 11:26

What relevance does ICT vote have to L2 clubs as they were voting in the L1/2 group of 20 clubs - can’t see what bearing the Championship vote has on that?
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Fri 8 May 12:07

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Parahandy, Fri 8 May 11:26

What relevance does ICT vote have to L2 clubs as they were voting in the L1/2 group of 20 clubs - can’t see what bearing the Championship vote has on that?


It has plenty of bearing in that it appeared at one stage ICT vote was crucial to the outcome.
This was before the Dundee fiasco.

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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: Ben,D.A  
Date:   Fri 8 May 12:27

There was no 'Dundee fiasco', apparently.

only 11 make the team,the rest can just but dream.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Fri 8 May 13:15

Kelty may demand an enquiry is they don't get in the league structure .

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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Fri 8 May 13:37

I think that is what is wrong here. Kelty and Brora should have been given the chance to join the league. Plus Hearts and Brechin will not get relegated however Partick and Stranraer will. Plus before anyone points out Brechin might have avoided relegation. Why on earth can we not just offer league places to Brora and Kelty. Hearts should come down.

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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Fri 8 May 13:40

That's not Kelty Hearts saying it, they are simply cut and pasting from The Rangers dossier of rumours.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Fri 8 May 13:55

^^ correct and Brechin were saved from a playoff, not relegation, cant believe Rangers got that wrong in their dossier...

the Inverness part, agree with parahandy, if it was a league 1 or 2 team then its a different story.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Fri 8 May 13:57

For me, just give Brora and Kelty the places, but don't know if the other clubs want an extra 8 games, never mind 2 trips to Brora, takes ages to get there.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Fri 8 May 14:17

Think about the Brora fans having to come down ever second week. That why I added if Brora wanted to go up.

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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Fri 8 May 16:10

I don't think they possibly could, I seem to remember before they were saying they would have a crack at it, but Highland league was their place.

It's a good league on its own, I've been to quite a lot of games, but the distances!

Scheme for kelty, would be interesting to see what would happen.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 8 May 17:40

There’s no relegation in league two....

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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Fri 8 May 18:07

Good point Buffy!

Well that's that thread closed then.......
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: dafc  
Date:   Fri 8 May 19:15

Brechins chairman will be laughing tonight, strange they are the only bottom side not to be relegated. I wonder who was on the board? Couldn't make it up, only in Scottish football, corrupt.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 8 May 19:25

Like Buffy said the bottom is never automatically relegated. They go into a playoff.

Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: pars no1  
Date:   Sat 9 May 09:31

Brora don’t want in the league. They stated this a few years ago when they got to the playoff. It would kill them financially with the travel costs. They are happy in the highland league.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: jock-par  
Date:   Sat 9 May 12:01

In Brora’s most recent statement they confirm the opposite pars no1

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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: arpar  
Date:   Sat 9 May 22:31

If playoffs are cancelled in all leagues then Brechin stay up as can only be relegated by losing a play off. No different to QOS in the Championship.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: dafc  
Date:   Sat 9 May 23:11

Pyramid play off is run by sfa as lowland and highland are sfa both competitions.
Rules state each party has a 25% stake spfl, sfa, highland and lowland league. and all must agree to cancellation or changes to playoffs.
As of today neither kelty or Brora have been informed by SFA that playoffs cancelled.
What has happened is the spfl have refused to put a club forward. Kelty and Brora and leagues have confirmed this within their rules.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: dafc  
Date:   Sat 9 May 23:20

Scottish Lowland Football League Constitution and Rules Version 12 (4 June 2019)

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b) References to rules within these Pyramid Play-Off Rules are references to the rules that are contained within this annex unless otherwise stated. Capitalised words and phrases not defined in these rules have the meanings ascribed to them in the Rules of the SPFL. c) Any amendment to these Pyramid Play-Off Rules must be agreed by each of the Scottish FA, SPFL, SHFL and SLFL prior to it becoming effective.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 9 May 23:57

So what are the pyramid play off rules?

Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: dafc  
Date:   Sun 10 May 02:20

Highland league v lowland league. Winners v team 42.
Spfl have refused to put up team 42. Sfa control this playoff and have yet to declare it. Neither Kelty or Brora have been informed formally that their payoff has ended. Needs agreement of all parties to change rules, as it stands spfl have broken their agreement
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Sun 10 May 07:19

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pars no1, Sat 09 May 09:31

Brora don’t want in the league. They stated this a few years ago when they got to the playoff. It would kill them financially with the travel costs. They are happy in the highland league.


Yes they do. It was Buckie Thistle who didn’t want promotion.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: DunfyDave  
Date:   Sun 10 May 09:03

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dafc, Sun 10 May 02:20

Highland league v lowland league. Winners v team 42.
Spfl have refused to put up team 42. Sfa control this playoff and have yet to declare it. Neither Kelty or Brora have been informed formally that their payoff has ended. Needs agreement of all parties to change rules, as it stands spfl have broken their agreement


^^^^ Perhaps the same "Points per Game" averaging rule should apply to Kelty, Brora and Position 42 with the highest earning their place in the league.

This would show consistency whilst promoting integrity in the game.

DunfyDave
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 10 May 09:14

How would that work then one team is at the bottom of their league and the other two are at the top?
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: allparone  
Date:   Sun 10 May 09:17

It wouldn’t be fair. The only fair way is by the current play off system. Until Kelty play Brora there is no need for the SPFL to put forward team 42.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sun 10 May 09:35

i suppose because it's not automatic promotion/relegation then when the individual leagues are called - it doesn't just happen... it's a bit like the playoffs from championship/spl - that "mini-tournament" can't happen
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: arpar  
Date:   Sun 10 May 09:48

Highland league, Lowland league and Spfl league 2 all called early because completing this seasons fixtures were not possible and therefore the season has ended. All leagues effectively cancelled the playoffs including the Highland and Lowland leagues as the playoffs are part of the season.
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Sun 10 May 19:09

SPFL now saying if Brechin were relegated they would have to go in the Lowland league ,Lowland league refused ,they were then advised that there positions in the Carmel wafer cup would be taken away .

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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Mon 11 May 23:38

Brechin saying it's nonsense in any case, and that they have verification from the other clubs to that effect.

Brechin's claim seems much more believable to me than the source of the original claim.

https://www.brechincity.com/bcfc/p/n/2277
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 Re: Brechin city fc
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Tue 12 May 12:15

Agreed ,weeks later things look different ,but all those clubs that are prepared to back Brechin could have done publicly the day after the allegation.

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