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 City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 09:57

As the title says. Great news for City for next season.




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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 10:01

Good news

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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 10:04

City can strive towards Champions League glory, the regimes project can continue unhindered, uefa have no need to worry about the lengthy litigation threatened by City and the local newsagents in Lausanne have done a roaring trade in brown envelopes. Everyone is a winner.

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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: Brucey Bonus  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 10:16

Plenty of toys scattered around your pram there?

It’s remarkable how few bothered to actually look at what the case was about. Essentially, Etihad were due city £56m in sponsorship revenue (which was found to be fair value). UEFA “signed off” on the accounting years ago and stated that the periods would not be revisited.

A hacked email; redacted and without the context of any replies, said that £8m would come from the airline, the rest from an investor. UEFA claimed that was the club’s owner.

UEFA’s case relied on:

- proving that the money flows in both Etihad’s and City’s audited accounts were falsified, even though the Etihad ones had been gone over repeatedly in the “open skies” case
- that it is an individual that owns the club not an investment group, so the documents at Companies House are inaccurate
- that the binding agreement that stated the periods wouldn’t be revisited could be reopened
- that the email in Der Spiegel told the whole story


So was never likely
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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 10:20

Indeed. Cas have said that the violations were time barred and so the only thing City had done was obstruct the investigation and that a fine would be sufficient punishment for such actions.

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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 10:28

To be fair, City were always confident that they could over turn the ban

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/uefa-champions-league/manchester-city-s-champions-league-ban-lifted-by-court-of-arbitration-for-sport/ar-BB16F9Ng?ocid=msedgdhp




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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 10:55

4th league position more important now !!
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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 11:04

The only disappointing aspect to this is that it's unlikely that City will try and dismantle the shambolic FPP system. What started off as a project to stop clubs going bankrupt turned into a project to stop competition and protect the historic top tier clubs from greater competition.

It's not a slam dunk but I suspect if any club put FPP to the test in a court of law you'd probably be looking at a result as big as the Bosman one.
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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 11:18

Without going into all the technicalities and rights and wrongs of the case, I would just note that it would have been a shame for the players, manager and above all the fans, if City's ban had been confirmed, through no fault of their own.



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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 11:20

City and their fans crowing about this as if it's some sort of vindication and shows they are whiter than white is already annoying and the verdict has only just been announced. It shows how toothless FFP, UEFA and even CAS are when things are time barred and not cooperating with the organisation you are a member of is brushed aside as a minor inconvenience. I know FFP has its detractors and plenty people think its to keep the old guard at the top of the game but the whole nation state projects like City, PSG and potentially Newcastle is the thin edge of a horrific wedge and having City and PSG both get away with blatant financial massaging means we'll probably just see more of this sort of thing in the future.
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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 11:38

You could say that having corporations that are involved in moving money in support of terrorists and money laundering for drug dealers emblazoned across your shirts is just as bad but Liverpool fans don't seem to mind that. Doesn't seem to stop them going down the moral high ground route either.
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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 11:41

The issue with that is that FPP should be in place to ensure clubs can afford to pay the bills - and not massively overcommit, go in to administration and leave a trail of unpaid debt behind.

The likes of City and PSG are owned by groups who can pay the bills. To write the rules so that "smaller" clubs like this can't challenge the more established clubs is purely protectionism. If you are an owner, have a pile of money, and want to move your club on to the next level, you shouldn't have to dream up ways to filter it in via sponsorship. What should be done is ensure that, if you want to walk away, there's enough money ring-fenced to ensure that the wages and other expenses can be paid for the foreseeable future.

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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 11:43

Agree with DA-go.




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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 11:44

I was just coming back to add that point DA GO. There is not a single thing about debt in the FFP rules which is what inevitably takes clubs under.

Post Edited (Mon 13 Jul 11:54)
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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: Lambo1885  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 13:49

Da-Go's spot on.
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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 15:45

[urlhttps://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/gary-neville-shows-how-he-was-right-on-man-city-champions-league-ban-decision/ar-BB16FWKE?ocid=msedgdhp

Da-go has been giving Gary Neville advice.




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 Re: City's ban lifted and fine reduced to £10M
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Mon 13 Jul 16:07

Quote:

Raymie the Legend, Mon 13 Jul 15:45

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/gary-neville-shows-how-he-was-right-on-man-city-champions-league-ban-decision/ar-BB16FWKE?ocid=msedgdhp

Da-go has been giving Gary Neville advice.
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