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 Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 07:32

Jose was a breath of fresh air when he first arrived at Chelsea - cocky, arrogant even and a quirky sense of humour. I initially believed Claudio Ranieri had been hard done by, but results at Stamford Bridge and the titles and trophies that followed, proved that Abramovich had made the right decision. Everything went sour and he left under a cloud. An unprecedented CL and domestic double with Inter in Italy and a spell with mixed fortunes in Madrid before Abramovich felt obliged to eat some humble pie and reappoint him. Rinse and repeat.

A totally different Mourinho took over at Man U - sour, surly, always looking to blame others for any poor result. Most of us probably thought he`d never get another top job. How wrong we were. I predicted he`d never win over the Spurs fans, after the sacking of the charismatic Pochettino. Wrong again. Spurs look like serious title challengers in this most open of campaigns, even if they did lose so late at Anfield. Most of all, Jose is obviously enjoying his football again and he`s getting the best out of his squad.

A good article by Simon Sone on the BBC website:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55327660



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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 08:15

The surly, moody Jose is never far away though. Fair play to him though for calling out Klopp over his antics.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 14:34

Interesting that most of the blame for the poisonous environment at Old Trafford is alleged to have emanated from Pogba. He's not exactly been a model pro for Ole either, so you have to wonder why the club hasn't punted him. Were Real not keen on him? I also read that Juve would take him back in an exchange deal with Ronaldo.

I know who would get the better end of that....



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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Ben,D.A  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 15:20

Pogba can go and not be missed imo, the first £50mil and oot he door. The dressing room will have a new heart when they get rid o that Puddick .GG Riva wrote:

only 11 make the team,the rest can just but dream.
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 15:25

Some footballers have a moody disposition and I guess that applies to Pogba. He does have real talent and if Man Utd get a bit of momentum going he could yet be a great asset for Solskjaer. Fred is the one who puzzles me greatly because I just don`t see any exceptional skill in him.

As far as Mourinho is concerned I just can`t help liking him.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 15:49

I watched the Man u game on Prime and noticed a number of Man U players did not pass the ball to Pogba when he had made the space to receive it
Did he not throw his gloves away as well ?
I don`t think he is happy and I think Man U will be a better team without him

On G.G.`s Mourinho post .... another couple of defeats and we could see the Surly one return
I cannot agree with him that the better team lost on the night as he said to Herr Klopp after the game

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 15:57

The commentators reckoned the gloves came off because Pogba was getting down to serious business. If he thinks he`s too good for the team that is a sign that it would be best for him to go but I`m not sure that`s his attitude.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: EdmontonPar  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 16:02

Busspar, I tried to watch a game on prime the other day and couldn’t find how to play it, is there a certain app or subscription within prime needed for these games

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 16:13

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EdmontonPar, Fri 18 Dec 16:02

Busspar, I tried to watch a game on prime the other day and couldn’t find how to play it, is there a certain app or subscription within prime needed for these games


If you're paying for prime, you'll get it under Prime Video.
No extra app needed.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 16:16

EdmontonPar AAPS Is correct I have the £7.99 prime subscription and that is all that is required

If you are watching on a mac as I do just click the Amazon logo and there will be a wee box top right telling you the game will start in ....so many minutes

If the box is not there click account and lists then click your prime video and under the first 3 lines of films you will see the games being streamed

If you are watching on the telly via the fire stick just click on Amazon Prime and you will see the games being streamed

I hope that helps ...I`m not very good with technical/computer terms

I don`t have sky or bt so I have been enjoying the Amazon streams

BTW Burnley look a poor team this year



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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 18:03

He may be disruptive in the dressing room but Pogba has been fantastic in his last few appearances - McCoist implied his pass for Martial’s goal was lucky - it was magnificent - and his stats for winning the ball back from opposition players are mighty impressive.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 19:22

You could understand José’s comment. His team played a perfect game according to his strategy. They soaked up pressure and then hit them on the break in the first half. Second half they came out and had more of a go and missed three excellent chances to bury the game.
Liverpool then scored a late winner from a corner with Dier blocked in the box




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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 18 Dec 19:45

Missing chances does not win games or leagues Raymie as you well know
I thought Dier slipped :)



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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 20 Dec 15:38

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Buspasspar, Fri 18 Dec 15:49

On G.G.`s Mourinho post .... another couple of defeats and we could see the Surly one return
I cannot agree with him that the better team lost on the night as he said to Herr Klopp after the game


Well we might find out how accurate your prediction is today, BPP. Spurs are 0-2 v Leicester, with about half an hour to play.



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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 20 Dec 16:18

Nah he'll just tell himself they were the better team and that will cheer him up.
Good to see Liverpool come back strongly from the recent injury problems. Be ideal if Leeds took something today.
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 20 Dec 16:31

Next game away to Wolves G.G. The surly one shall return :)

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: allparone  
Date:   Sun 20 Dec 16:35

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JTH123, Sun 20 Dec 16:18

Nah he'll just tell himself they were the better team and that will cheer him up.
Good to see Liverpool come back strongly from the recent injury problems. Be ideal if Leeds took something today.


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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Sun 20 Dec 17:11

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JTH123, Sun 20 Dec 16:18

Nah he'll just tell himself they were the better team and that will cheer him up.
Good to see Liverpool come back strongly from the recent injury problems. Be ideal if Leeds took something today.


How’s that working out for you? 🤣😂🤣😂

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 20 Dec 17:41

Less than ideal clearly. Table still makes good reading though.
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 09:43

Jose seems to have taken a real dislike to Dele Alli

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 10:37

Dunno if you've seen the Amazon All or Nothing series on Spurs that covered Mourinhos first season but he was on Ali's case from day 1 repeatedly saying he was a poor trainer. He also said that when he was at Man U, Fergie only ever advised him to sign 1 player and that was Ali.
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 12:43

Klopp is a buffoon of the highest order. Watched both documentaries and much prefer Pep or Jose to that grinning idiot

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 13:49

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da_no_1, Thu 24 Dec 12:43

Klopp is a buffoon of the highest order. Watched both documentaries and much prefer Pep or Jose to that grinning idiot


Title winning buffoon. Don't forget that. 👍

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 14:10

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Thu 24 Dec 13:49

Quote:

da_no_1, Thu 24 Dec 12:43

Klopp is a buffoon of the highest order. Watched both documentaries and much prefer Pep or Jose to that grinning idiot


Title winning buffoon. Don't forget that. 👍


Title. As in singular. Just the one. Don't forget that

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 14:58

Quite like both of them tbh. Moreso Mourinho after watching the Amazon thing. Thought he came out of it looking better than I expected. Did a power of moaning about injuries right enough. 🤣
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 16:25

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da_no_1, Thu 24 Dec 14:10

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Thu 24 Dec 13:49

Quote:

da_no_1, Thu 24 Dec 12:43

Klopp is a buffoon of the highest order. Watched both documentaries and much prefer Pep or Jose to that grinning idiot


Title winning buffoon. Don't forget that. 👍


Title. As in singular. Just the one. Don't forget that


And Champions league winner... Don't forget that 🤣




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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 17:00

Club world cup winners ....dont forget that :)

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 17:53

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Buspasspar, Thu 24 Dec 17:00

Club world cup winners ....dont forget that :)


The B&Q Tunnocks tea cake of world trophies......

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 18:25

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da_no_1, Thu 24 Dec 17:53

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Buspasspar, Thu 24 Dec 17:00

Club world cup winners ....dont forget that :)


The B&Q Tunnocks tea cake of world trophies......


It's still a Tunnocks tea cake next to your cup of tea instead of an empty teaspoon though....

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 19:43

No too close tho apps as they tend to melt :)



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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 20:35

Klopp is no buffoon. Genius maybe too mild a term for the grinning one. He certainly knows how to get a collection of footballers to perform to the absolute peak of their ability. He took a young man from Hull city who was playing slightly above average and turned him into a world class player. Jurgen must be one of the greatest Germans ever to work in the UK. I would vote him the best.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 20:55

Altho I believe Klopp is a world class manager, you can't use Robertson to prove it, Hull paid in excess of £3m for him from the arabs, the real genius was getting him for just over £8m

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 21:41

Oh MDCCetc. Robertson`s not the only one who proves it. Count 13 or 14 others and a style of football that`s mesmerising.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Thu 24 Dec 21:56

Indeed. Mo Salah was not considered anywhere near world class at Chelsea or Mane at Southampton.
Nobody can dispute that now.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Fri 25 Dec 08:43

All 3 were already great well before they went to Liverpool... Honestly don't get the fawning over Klopp. Cheeser when he's winning but when he loses he's arguably worse than Jose
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Fri 25 Dec 09:15

Yeah but he doesn't lose as much as Jose does he 🤣


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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 25 Dec 09:24

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Thu 24 Dec 21:56

Indeed. Mo Salah was not considered anywhere near world class at Chelsea or Mane at Southampton.
Nobody can dispute that now.



Mo Salah done absolutely fantastic at Roma. While Mane wasn't heralded as world class at Southampton he had done well with both them and RB Salzburg.
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Fri 25 Dec 11:30

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Andrew283, Fri 25 Dec 08:43

All 3 were already great well before they went to Liverpool... Honestly don't get the fawning over Klopp. Cheeser when he's winning but when he loses he's arguably worse than Jose



Andrew Klopp is easily the best manager in Britain at this time, I dont see anyone in the world better

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Fri 25 Dec 15:09

Without getting into arguments about which manager is better than any others, for me there are two mark s of greatness in a manager.

1 Getting players to play consistently at a level above what they have previously achieved.
2 Managing the transition from a successful team that is past its best to build a new and equally successful team.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Fri 25 Dec 16:24

IMHO Mane is the key player in the team. I saw him at Anfield a few months after he moved there and he stuck out a mile.
His close control and determination to get past people are top class.
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Fri 25 Dec 21:35

When Klopp is long gone, I feel the players who played for him and might have been average otherwise will herald him as a legend.
He's a decent man and hates the limelight to be honest but loves the game.
Understandably Man U fans on this forum will always see him as the "cheesy" "buffoon" but from me, and I say this honestly.
I'm Liverpool fan through and through but honest enough to say Alex Ferguson is the best manager of all time to date.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Fri 25 Dec 21:38

I don't have any real affinity with any English team other than being a total Fergie glory hunter through the 90s but I absolutely love Klopp and everything about him. The man just oozes positivity and class.
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 25 Dec 22:31

I'm not a Man United fan but I just don't get this mewing over Klopp.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 25 Dec 22:56

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 25 Dec 21:35

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He's a decent man and hates the limelight to be honest but loves the game.
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Hates the limelight?
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 26 Dec 02:58

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Grant, Fri 25 Dec 22:56

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 25 Dec 21:35

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He's a decent man and hates the limelight to be honest but loves the game.
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Hates the limelight?


Yes! He knows it's there and part of his job but he doesn't revel in it or invite it.
I refer you back to my view he's just a decent man that loves football.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 26 Dec 09:46

Doesn`t revel in it? So when he runs on the pitch to celebrate with his players, sometimes, before the full time whistle, is that him hiding from the limelight. When he goes front of the Kop and beats his chest and gives it the big fist pumps as runs up the touchline he isn`t revelling in it?
Klopp is a fantastic manager and I`m quite certain is a thoroughly decent man who is kind to his children and gives to charity. He is however a bit of a used car salesman and tells the Liverpool fans what they want to hear and doesn`t tire of publicly demonstrating how much he loves the club and feels as passionate as they do about the club.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Pars_1986  
Date:   Sat 26 Dec 10:45

He's Managed to get a champions league medal and league winners medal in Henderson House speaks volumes
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 26 Dec 11:00

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 25 Dec 21:35

When Klopp is long gone, I feel the players who played for him and might have been average otherwise will herald him as a legend.
He's a decent man and hates the limelight to be honest but loves the game.
Understandably Man U fans on this forum will always see him as the "cheesy" "buffoon" but from me, and I say this honestly.


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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 26 Dec 11:32

Saying Klopp hates the limelight is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on .net

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 26 Dec 12:20

Been a while since Mourinho got a mention on this thread, so I thought I would break the sequence. 🙂

I'm not been his number one fan since the end of his honeymoon period in his first spell at Chelsea and I initially thought he was as poor an appointment at Spur as he had been at Man U, but recently I had reason to re-evaluate, with Tottenham emerging as genuine title challengers and Jose showing a far more mellow side in front of the media.

Leopards and spots? Maybes aye, maybes naw.



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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 26 Dec 13:22

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da_no_1, Sat 26 Dec 11:32

Saying Klopp hates the limelight is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on .net


Seeking the limelight and receiving it are two very different things.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 26 Dec 14:11

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 26 Dec 13:22

Quote:

da_no_1, Sat 26 Dec 11:32

Saying Klopp hates the limelight is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on .net


Seeking the limelight and receiving it are two very different things.


Anyone who whitens his teeth to that extent loves a camera flash

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 26 Dec 14:16

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da_no_1, Sat 26 Dec 14:11

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 26 Dec 13:22

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da_no_1, Sat 26 Dec 11:32

Saying Klopp hates the limelight is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on .net


Seeking the limelight and receiving it are two very different things.


Anyone who whitens his teeth to that extent loves a camera flash


That's a fair point 😁

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 27 Dec 17:52

Herr Klopp booked tonight

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 27 Dec 21:59

wrong forum oops

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 26 Jan 16:50

Looks like Gareth Bale is now sharing the naughty step with Dele Ali....

Jose's won a few trophies in his time but he's never going to receive an award for his man management skills.

https://theboyhotspur.com/first-dele-now-jose-turns-on-another-senior-player-none-of-which-reflects-well-on-levy/amp/



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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 26 Jan 18:02

The surly one has returned G.G. ? .... I read last week that Spurs would not renew his loan ... I honestly could not see why they signed him given his recent injury record

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Tue 26 Jan 18:28

Don’t see the problem with his man management skills here - what he says makes perfect sense - for a man with his skill and ability Bale needs to have a good long look in the mirror. From all accounts he acted disrespectfully to his employers at Real Madrid and if he is not pulling his weight at training it sounds like he’s doing the same with Spurs.

Good on Jose for calling him out - he’s getting paid an absolute fortune - the least the Spurs fans can expect is 100% effort.

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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 26 Jan 18:44

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AJ27, Tue 26 Jan 18:28

Don’t see the problem with his man management skills here - what he says makes perfect sense - for a man with his skill and ability Bale needs to have a good long look in the mirror. From all accounts he acted disrespectfully to his employers at Real Madrid and if he is not pulling his weight at training it sounds like he’s doing the same with Spurs.

Good on Jose for calling him out - he’s getting paid an absolute fortune - the least the Spurs fans can expect is 100% effort.


I don't disagree with what you're saying, AJ, but the top managers usually find a way to get the best out of every player in their squad, although occasionally, they have to move them out. Mourinho has managed - or mismanaged - players at almost every club he's been at - and often the top players at that, like Hazard at Chelsea.

That's not good man management, imo. Calling them out publicly for their failings rarely works. Look at Luke Shaw now and compare that with how he performed under Mourinho, who thought that humiliating him in the media was the solution.



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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 26 Jan 18:59

P.I.P. Praise in Public ..... Punish in Private ...... One of the first basic man management learning skills ..... Jose is a megalomaniac I think he is slowly losing the Spurs changing room



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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Tue 26 Jan 20:23

Well he is a top manager, won more than a few trophies by the way, and crucially in different countries and with clubs with less than ideal circumstances.

You could argue he is THE manager, I read ludicrous comments comparing him to Pochetino-who has won zero.

Bale is on a short term loan, has recent constant injuries and certainly the last two years has not applied himself enough in training to get back to his level.

Mourinho knows he can`t waste too much time when he will be gone in 3 months time anyway, ditto Delle Ali.

As he said, you are 6 games away from the sack, he is there to put some teeth into Spurs, and maybe for once actually win something?

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 26 Jan 20:34

neils:- good post and all of it true if you change the third word from is to was :)

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 26 Jan 21:15

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neils, Tue 26 Jan 20:23

Well he is a top manager, won more than a few trophies by the way, and crucially in different countries and with clubs with less than ideal circumstances.

You could argue he is THE manager, I read ludicrous comments comparing him to Pochetino-who has won zero.

Bale is on a short term loan, has recent constant injuries and certainly the last two years has not applied himself enough in training to get back to his level.

Mourinho knows he can`t waste too much time when he will be gone in 3 months time anyway, ditto Delle Ali.

As he said, you are 6 games away from the sack, he is there to put some teeth into Spurs, and maybe for once actually win something?


Well I admit the "few trophies" comment was a bit of poetic licence to deliberately minimise his achievements, but is that the only yardstick in deciding who's a good manager? Surely there have to be other considerations? Take Eddie Howe for example. He didn't win many trophies at Bournemouth but he brought the club up into the EPL and kept it there for several seasons, with a fraction of the resources of many rival clubs. Isn't there an argument for saying that managers like Howe and Sean Dyche at Burnley, don't get the recognition they deserve?

Celtic won a wheen of trophies after their only real rivals were liquidated in 2012. Does that mean Ronnie Deila, Brendan Rodgers and Neil Lennon are all great managers?



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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 26 Jan 21:33

Good post G.G. and very similar to my next post that I don`t have to do now :)

Howe and Dyche are true managers getting the best from their players and working on a tight budget

David Moyes not doing too badly just now at West Ham either

Rodgers is a true man manager and a good guy as well Celtic was a gimme for him

But Jose oh Jose when He loses its the players fault but when he wins its his coaching his substitutions his managerial skill etc. etc. respect man respect

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Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Tue 26 Jan 21:58

Agree it`s not the only yardstick that measures a good manager, but at so called `big` clubs it is the only yardstick.
Mourinho might have had his day- but it`s been an extremely long and consistently successful day.

Eddie Howe is a strange one in that where does he go now? Contrary to opinion, he did have a fair bit of money at Bournemouth, they were never the lowest budget by any means, but he managed to maximise what he had, punched well above his weight, and seemed an excellent all round manager.

Unfortunately the one time he got a massively improved budget, he blew it, probably ran out of time there.

Moyes was never a bad manager, he just made a few bad choices, he is at the level of club he deserves, he can make them better, but they won`t come near to winning anything- would they anyway?

Dyche is the master of maximising every scrap to the full, making anything average good, and with new owners coming in and an increased budget, why would he go anywhere? There is no British manager with as much autonomy as him, that`s the main reason clubs don`t go for him.

Jim McIntyre was a good manager, so is AJ , all have their levels and specialities, and yes limits....

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Topic Originator: Gadgie59  
Date:   Tue 26 Jan 22:35

A friend has lent me “My Life In Red And White” (Arsene Wenger’ bio); I’m about 1/4 way through just now.

He says he was very lucky to have had, pretty much, a completely free hand while managing his clubs. Something managers don’t have today. Something similar to Alex Ferguson, who by today’s expectations would never have survived at ManUtd .... I think even by standards back then, he was one game away from being sacked even then.

I guess, today, what makes a good manager is determined not just by what happens on the park, in the dressing room and in training. Having the ability to influence owners/boards ‘invisibly’ possibly vital in doing the job.

I find it difficult to take to Mourinho .... but being a nice guy might actually be a liability, as a football manager.



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Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff  
Date:   Wed 27 Jan 12:43

Jose revolutionized the approach to coaching with his `Tactical Periodization` approach - basically coaching game situations in isolation - if the ball goes here you go there and drilled it into his players. His Porto team were incredible at it and then of course he changed the game at Chelsea as well.

His man management approach seems to be you are all in 100% on the bus or you`re not. He builds the them against us siege mentality and if you are not giving 100% then you`re out.

My perception on Dele Alli is that he`s quite free spirited on the field and his tactical discipline is lacking therefore he cant be trusted

Bale is exceptionally gifted athlete and player - he`s just not applying himself = he cant be trusted

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Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Wed 27 Jan 13:17

It`s never a good sign when a manager seems to alienate some of his top players. Definitely not good for team spirit. Nearer the start of this thread several posts were referring to Pogba as a bad influence in the dressing room and not applying himself. But could we say that Solskjaer exercised brilliant management skills by not alienating him and now has a player who is performing again to the top of his ability. Maybe the surly one although so successful in the past can learn something from the far less experienced Solskjaer in man management.

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Topic Originator: Hammy  
Date:   Wed 27 Jan 13:57

His man management skills were emphasised at MU when he destroyed the confidence of potentially the best English left back and in a huff had him training with the youth team, ever present player now under ollie.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 28 Jan 21:30

Currently getting gubbed by Liverpool .... shouting and swearing at his players from the touch line .... he has lost the plot ..... again

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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Thu 28 Jan 21:33

Liverpool looking much more like Liverpool tonight. Dominating and dangerous.

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 29 Jan 07:23

"Currently getting gubbed by Liverpool .... shouting and swearing at his players from the touch line .... he has lost the plot ..... again"

A bit harsh, BPP. D`you not think he`s been gleaning a few tips from Sir Fergie`s autobiography?

Here`s Phil McNulty`s take on it, from the BBC`s website :-

"Mourinho spent much of the second half vocally exhorting his players but looked like a man shouting at a car with a flat battery. No matter hard he tried, no matter how loud his voice, there was no sign of life."

Shamelessly stolen from a Fawlty Towers episode........



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 Re: Jose Mourinho
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 5 Feb 14:31

Only 2 wins from 12 now ... same stat that got Potch the bullet

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Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Fri 5 Feb 15:03

Just heard today that last night was the first time any Jose team has ever lost 2 consecutive home games - a remarkable stat.

Beginning to look like he’s been hugely reliant on Kane at Spurs though.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 12 Feb 08:29

Football Gossip (Daily Mirror)

Jose Mourinho`s position as Tottenham Hotspur manager is safe despite a poor run of results and rumoured doubts from senior players.



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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 12 Feb 17:09

Jose no happy :-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56044972

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 21:42

From Aunty :-


Newspaper reports on Sunday suggested Mourinho`s job could be at risk if his team failed to win at London Stadium.

The two-time Champions League winner has been criticised by some Spurs fans for a perceived negative approach to games but, asked whether Tottenham`s slump was related to his style of management, Mourinho replied: "No, not at all. Mine and my coaching staff`s methods are second to nobody in the world.

"I think for a long, long time, we have problems in the team that I cannot resolve by myself as a coach."

The former Chelsea and Manchester United manager suggested winning the Europa League could be Tottenham`s most likely route into next season`s Champions League.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 5 Apr 18:00

Looks like its the players fault again .... according to the surly one

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