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 Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 18:06

Gerry died today aged 78 after a short illness.
Leaves behind some iconic songs

Legend.

RIP




It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 18:37

Sad news a Liverpool icon

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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 18:38

Liverpool should wear black armbands as a tribute in tomorrow's game. Without him their fans wouldn't have had their anthem.

RIP Gerry.



Not your average Sunday League player.
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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: yorkiepar  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 19:05

Actually GG, they would. The song was a Rogers and Hammerstein composition for the 1945 musical, “Carousel”. Gerry and the Pacemakers merely had a hit with their cover version. But as local lads (and Liverpool supporters) it resonated at Anfield and was subsequently adopted as their anthem. Indeed a sad loss though. Some great songs. The golden era of pop IMHO.

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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 19:12

Who adopted it first? Liverpool or Celtic ?




It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 19:13

Saw him live back in the day I`m sure a lot of dot. netters grew up listening to his music..

The night-time shadows disappear
And with them go all your tears
For the morning will bring joy
For every girl and boy
So don`t let the sun catch you cryin`

RIP Gerry

I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 19:25

Quote :-

Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend like | nolike
Date: Sun 3 Jan 19:12

Who adopted it first? Liverpool or Celtic ?

Debate of Celtic v Liverpool for the origins of the tune

"After all, the song, originally written by Rodgers and Hammerstein in 1945 for the Broadway musical Carousel, only became a terrace favourite after it was covered by Gerry and the Pacemakers in November 1963. Almost immediately - as footage from Panorama in 1964 shows - Liverpool supporters adopted it.

As Paul Fields points out: "Before the early 60s football fans made noise and occasionally chanted something brief (like Play Up Pompey!) but it was the Kop that started singing popular songs of the day (mainly Merseybeat songs such as Gerry and the Pacemakers` You`ll Never Walk Alone) and later started to adapt the lyrics of songs to celebrate the team and its players.

"If any Celtic fans still claim that they sang it first, it would have to predate Gerry`s version. Now can you really see thousands of working class Glaswegians in the 50s/early 60s spontaneously joining in a sing-along from a Rodgers and Hammerstein musical?" No, us neither."

I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 19:43

I believe a German league club also sing it before games.
Or that used to be the case.
Can't remember the name of the club.





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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 19:44

There are a few accounts of how YNWA became adopted by Liverpool fans, but the most likely one is the simplest: Anfield was one of the first grounds to have a DJ play the top ten records of the day over the tannoy before a match. When local lad and Liverpool supporter Gerry’s version of a song (that was almost 20 years old) hit number 1 in October 1963 the fans joined in and adopted it as their anthem.

Celtic fans seem to have picked up YNWA when they played Liverpool in the ECWC semi in 1966, and Borussia Dortmund fans did the same after they beat Liverpool in the final at Hampden.

It is probably the greatest terracing anthem of all, with a soaring chorus that is easy to sing even for a crowd with a tin ear. I can’t see any rival appearing in these days of seated stadia- YNWA belongs on a swaying football terracing. Why, apart from being sing able, is it so good? Maybe because it is not triumphalist like many club songs but because both the music and the lyrics are calling for resilience, solidarity, in difficult times but with an underlying sense of optimism. Gerry Marsden may not have written the song but he did football supporters the world over a great service when he popularised it.

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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 19:57

Quote:

widtink, Sun 3 Jan 19:43

I believe a German league club also sing it before games.
Or that used to be the case.
Can't remember the name of the club.


That'll be Dortmund. 👍 💛🖤💛

Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 20:03

Ah... Cheers.
Do they still sing it?



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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 20:13

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Raymie the Legend, Sun 3 Jan 19:12

Who adopted it first? Liverpool or Celtic ?


I only recall Celtic starting it when Celtic and Liverpool played each other in the last 90s in the Uefa Cup although I could be wrong.

Awight Pat!
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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 20:44

Prefer this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeHkQYDoVJ0



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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sun 3 Jan 20:58

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widtink, Sun 3 Jan 20:03

Ah... Cheers.
Do they still sing it?


Oh yes. Every home game.

Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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 Re: Gerry Marsden RIP
Topic Originator: bigdonnie  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 17:59

liverpool sung it first in 1963 then celtic copied it celts them was glen daly grand old team to play for saw gerry and pacemakers at irvine magnum in 1980,s was still brilliant seemed such a cheery wee guy r.i.p gerry

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