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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 1 Feb 14:33
News breaking that Kev Nisbet has handed in a transfer request :o
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Mon 1 Feb 14:39
Source?
Not doubting you but I can't find any info on this
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 1 Feb 14:41
Breaking on twitter bv Writer Robert Greive
Wonder had this been earlier in window if we would have used the money to bring anyone else in
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Mon 1 Feb 14:43
š
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 1 Feb 14:44
Well, if true, there is your answer to why he would want to leave Hibs after a short spell?
Playing at a better level and a huge salary increase
Think Hibs will have to take the money or face keeping an unhappy player. You only have to look along the M8 to see how that can turn out?
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Mon 1 Feb 14:45
Whos going to want him though? .... Looks like Birmingham have given up. They just signed Keke Simmonds
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Post Edited (Mon 01 Feb 14:46)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 1 Feb 14:49
I think Hibs will fold. It`s a gamble keeping him. He could pick up an injury or his form tail off
Who will bid Ā£20M for Morelos now? Lucky to get Ā£5M
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Mon 1 Feb 14:58
True Raymie. Scott McKenna another example.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:01
Morelos is slightly different due to his āfiery temperā. Any club that has VAR in their league would be taking a massive risk in signing him. No doubting heās an excellent finisher but I canāt see any big club taking the chance on him.
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:17
The lads taking a risk considering only 7 hours 40 mins left of window. Could really bite him on the erse if it doesn't go through
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:18
Birmgham also sign Man City young Striker... Hope it does not backfire on him. Hibs fans on twitter already calling him a Rat etc lol
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Topic Originator: PARSpars
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:21
Polt..... vast majority of these deals go thru late in the day, suspect the personal terms will been discussed already with an agent and cant see much negotiation being required with that area.
So its just the clubs to agree and medical which will do in edinburgh or glasgow.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:21
As he has only been at Hibs for 6 months it does seem a bit premature to be slapping in a transfer request. If I were a Hibs fan I would be will irked !
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:22
and a year ago they were saying how we should roll over and take whatever they offer us for him, obviously dont like it when its the other way round!
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:25
Birmingham aren't allowed to discuss terms until approach is granted
"Hibs think the striker has room to grow into a player capable of topping the Ā£4.4m record transfer fee the club received from Celtic for Scott Brown and are refusing to budge.
And now the player appears to have moved to pressure the club to accept an offer so he can discuss terms."
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/kevin-nisbet-hands-in-hibs-19744804
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:30
Didn`t he go in the huff when we turned down Hibs` overtures in last year`s January transfer window? He`s probably following his agent`s advice. I get the impression with Nisbet that he`s anxious to make up for lost time, having failed to apply himself properly early in his career.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:31
Yes... I am sure he put a transfer request in here too
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:31
Its his choice if he wants to go and make some cash , it is a short career
Some folk will say you are a greedy sod wanting away from Hibs so quick after everything that was said , but if the shoe was on the other foot I`m pretty sure I know what most folk would do
Post Edited (Mon 01 Feb 15:39)
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:32
So much for Hibs being his boyhood team..only been there 10 minutes.
He couldn`t wait to leave us when he knew they were interested and now it looks like he`s doing it again. He wasn`t interested in a bigger money move to England then.
Maybe says something about his character more than anything else.
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Topic Originator: rossmcno1
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:34
Short career, he probably made the move to Hibs and not down south due to his dad not being well (sadly now passed away). Birmingham will be offering Ā£10k a week or similar. Hibs paid Ā£250k and stand to make a profit of Ā£2m for 6 months ādevelopment.ā
Put it another way, we might end up with a total of over Ā£1million for one seasons work thanks to the wee team š
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:36
Quote:
wulliepar57, Mon 01 Feb 15:31
Good luck to him it`s a short career so why not get some cash for yourself
Hibernian aren`t shy either stole him from us not that long ago for Ā£250K and want 3.5 million ! probably crying that they have to give us some cash
Good Luck Kev !! hope you get a move
Just shows the true colours of some of the Hib`s fans if they are calling you a rat
I am sure I can speak for Pars fans that we were happy to have you at EEP and will be very happy if you go all the way to the top !
He is being blinded by a Agent that really only sees money. Although If i was in Kevin's position I would also be looking at financial side.... Few more grand a week pay the mortgage quicker, sign on fee, pension pot...it's understandable.
It's just not what you expect after just 6 months into what is now considered a longer contract in Scottish football.
Last offer was apparently 2.6m + add ons
Post Edited (Mon 01 Feb 15:37)
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Topic Originator: preston par
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:38
I reckon he`ll be gone in this window. Agent probably had word from Birmingham that if he puts in transfer request, they`ll put in another bid etc.
Don`t think he`d just hand in a transfer request without some sort of idea that they (or someone else) will be back in for him.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:43
Hi Polt
how you doing these days ? hope you are keeping well
He will probably get called a greedy wee sod but it is a short career so why not take what you can get because nobody knows what`s round the corner
I do agree his agent will be looking after his pocket too
I didn`t expect him wanting away either but hey it is what it is now , if it goes through it`s money in the bank for the Pars
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Mon 1 Feb 15:52
Quote:
wulliepar57, Mon 01 Feb 15:43
Hi Polt
how you doing these days ? hope you are keeping well
He will probably get called a greedy wee sod but it is a short career so why not take what you can get because nobody knows what`s round the corner
I do agree his agent will be looking after his pocket too
I didn`t expect him wanting away either but hey it is what it is now , if it goes through it`s money in the bank for the Pars
All good here now Wulliepar57, hope your doing good as well pal.
It's as you say players fall in and out of form quickly. Morelos perfect example worth Ā£20m one season and next value drops big time. Personally I hope it works for him and doesn't end up in the wilderness. Pars will hopefully get a decent return for sell on fee.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:04
Polt - not sure if you were meaning to be critical of his agent but surely that's him/her doing their job by getting their client the best deal they can?
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:10
Quote:
JTH123, Mon 01 Feb 16:04
Polt - not sure if you were meaning to be critical of his agent but surely that's him/her doing their job by getting their client the best deal they can?
Aye I do understand that but IF the agent has given Kev advice to hand in a transfer request 6 months into a 4 year contract. Then that in my opinion is bad advice. The lad could possibly be frozen out of game for another 3.5 years...I know that is unlikely but it is a possibility.
If this risk doesn't work for him and he plays at hibs, when fans are back in they are gonna be on his back....his form will dip as he is a confidence player.
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Topic Originator: yorkiepar
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:17
BBC says Hibs turned down a bid of Ā£3 million from Birmingham for Nisbet. The whole thing sounds bizarre. Has Nisbet thrown his dummy out of the pram? Canāt see that heās done himself any favours IF heās handed in a transfer request. A lot of this sounds like āfake newsā if you ask me. (Do you remember āfake newsā? Used to be very popular I believe!)
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:20
If true,I don't think it's a very smart thing to do.Having been at hibs for 5 minutes, if I was a hibs fan, I'd be furious.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:21
A source close to the player told SunSport: "Kevin loves Hibs and hasn't been looking for a move.
"But there have been mixed messages coming from the club on how they see his future.
"Kevin now he feels backed into a corner over the whole situation and has made his feelings known."
Birmingham are continuing to monitor the situation with Sunderland and Sheffield United also linked with the striker.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:22
Any player who is advised by his agent to hand in a transfer request should have their services dispensed of.
It`s not likely to change the club`s stance and it causes problems for the player if he ends up staying.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:32
Agents are only interested in one thing. They make more if a player moves on
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:35
āAgreement between #BirminghamFC and #Hibs is getting close. #Nisbet eager to push through move and Hibs 3.5m valuation looks to have been met. Other logistics being worked on (sell on clause and other performance related bonuses) before any medical scheduled. ā
From Twitter
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Topic Originator: Parallel Lines
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:40
So we get 30% ? Pretty close to Ā£1 million. Betcha Rovers are spitting feathers....š
I looked for my pet in all the books on animals and birds and then I found it in the Book of Revelations.Marty Feldman
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:44
Looking on the Hibs.net, someone who is a pal of a Pars player. The player had apparently said, Nizzy is a class player but if an English team come in for him he`ll be off like a shot.
You believe what you want to believe I suppose š
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:52
Quote:
Parallel Lines, Mon 1 Feb 16:40
So we get 30% ? Pretty close to Ā£1 million. Betcha Rovers are spitting feathers....š
Nobody on here knows what the % cut is. It might be somewhere nearer 10% for all we know (which is still a decent amount).
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Topic Originator: PARSpars
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:56
Hibs linked with Hendy at St Johnstone as replacement for Nisbet if he leaves
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:58
There are people on here that know exactly what the cut is. I doubt they'll confirm on the forum though.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 1 Feb 16:59
Donāt ye just love the transfer windae?
Staying, going, no going, in the huff, toys oot pram, mibbe going, had medical, snoopy plasters on
āBuffyās Buns are the finest in Fifeā, J. Spence 2019ā
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 1 Feb 17:02
- tax
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Mon 1 Feb 17:14
The market standard seems to float between 15 and 30%. Given we sold relatively quickly and painlessly I'm presuming we're at the higher end of that.
Just an educated guess though, I know nowt.
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Mon 1 Feb 17:20
Wages is the only thing tempting Kevin in his move and fair enough. Cause Birmingham aren`t in a great league position and could be in League 1 next season! Also the club seems to be in a wee bit of financial bother I was reading.
I just thought the lad woulda had his head screwed on enough to realise his potential, see out the season at Hibs, score another 10 goals and I reckon he could quick easily have got a move to a top end championship team.
But hey ho, agents run the show nowadays.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Mon 1 Feb 17:23
Quote:
par_33, Mon 01 Feb 17:20
Wages is the only thing tempting Kevin in his move and fair enough. Cause Birmingham aren`t in a great league position and could be in League 1 next season! Also the club seems to be in a wee bit of financial bother I was reading.
I just thought the lad woulda had his head screwed on enough to realise his potential, see out the season at Hibs, score another 10 goals and I reckon he could quick easily have got a move to a top end championship team.
But hey ho, agents run the show nowadays.
Or he breaks his leg, loses form and ends up back at Partick. Heād be off his head to turn down a move to Birmingham.
Post Edited (Mon 01 Feb 17:25)
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 1 Feb 17:35
Quote:
twin par, Mon 1 Feb 16:20
If true,I don't think it's a very smart thing to do.Having been at hibs for 5 minutes, if I was a hibs fan, I'd be furious.
Hibs will stand to make a massive profit even if we were to get 30% of the fee.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 1 Feb 17:37
Not sure how much the tax man takes from this I recall reading somewhere 30%
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Mon 1 Feb 18:04
Quote:
Rigger Al, Mon 01 Feb 17:37
Not sure how much the tax man takes from this I recall reading somewhere 30%
I believe for domestic transfers VAT is paid so 20% - tax man gets paid first so l Pars cut would be after VAT. Then there will be agent and legal fees - I donāt know but I imagine any sell on fee would be a cut of the net income after all costs
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Topic Originator: Hay Fever
Date: Mon 1 Feb 18:05
Some Journo on Twitter
@SheffieldUnited now look set to beat @BCFC for Kevin Nisbetās signature.
#sheffieldunited #birmingham 21 mins ago
Canāt see it myself
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Topic Originator: 2004Par
Date: Mon 1 Feb 18:06
Is now apparently off as hibs have refused to negotiate with Birmingham.
Post Edited (Mon 01 Feb 18:07)
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Mon 1 Feb 18:12
Handing in transfer requests will rightly annoy fans. He will get plenty social media stick.
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Mon 1 Feb 18:14
Hmm you think Birmingham been doing underhand tactics.... I knew there was other clubs interested but didn't know who
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 1 Feb 18:14
Deal is off with Birmingham. Hibs refusing to negotiate.
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Post Edited (Mon 01 Feb 18:15)
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Mon 1 Feb 18:37
Sounds like speculation and rumour. Obviously a personal decision for him, and he will be tied to a contract with Hibs. I understood that he always wanted to play for Hibs but then this may have been media talk. In terms of transfer fee, I would think that there would be some sort of formula based on salary. He has only played in the premiership for half a season also. Good luck to him if he goes. Its a personal choice at the end of the day.
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Topic Originator: Malcolm Canmore
Date: Mon 1 Feb 18:42
Quote:
Indiapar, Mon 01 Feb 18:37
Sounds like speculation and rumour. Obviously a personal decision for him, and he will be tied to a contract with Hibs. I understood that he always wanted to play for Hibs but then this may have been media talk. In terms of transfer fee, I would think that there would be some sort of formula based on salary. He has only played in the premiership for half a season also. Good luck to him if he goes. Its a personal choice at the end of the day.
Sounds like an agent stirring things using his media contacts to spin stories.
My dog eats meat
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 1 Feb 19:04
On the Beeb transfer page just now :-
Brian McLauchlin
BBC Sport Scotland :-
Kevin Nisbet will NOT be making the move from Hibernian to Birmingham City in this transfer window.
The Easter Road club have turned down all approaches by the English Championship club for the player they signed last summer from Dunfermline for Ā£300,000.
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 1 Feb 19:09
Fair play to Hibs but they now have a disheartened player. If someone offered me 5x my wage and my boss turned it down, I'd not be amused. Football is a short career and he could make more in two years at Birmingham than he could in 10 at Hibs (assuming consistency and lack of injuries).
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Mon 1 Feb 19:18
If Hibs are not happy with him they don't have to play him.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Mon 1 Feb 19:25
Quote:
eastendalloapar, Mon 1 Feb 19:18
If Hibs are not happy with him they don't have to play him.
But they do still have to pay him
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 1 Feb 19:30
Quote:
eastendalloapar, Mon 01 Feb 19:18
If Hibs are not happy with him they don't have to play him.
That wouldnāt make sense given they value him at Ā£3.5-4 million.
They knew when they signed him on a 4 year deal he was going to be an opportunity for a big money spinner.
They wonāt drop him for that simple reason.
I still think heāll be off tonight somewhere.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Mon 1 Feb 21:09
Well done hibs.Don't give in to the first offer.Hate to say this but nisbet,maybe thinks he is better than he is.He needs to keep a level head,and show his potential at hibs.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 1 Feb 21:17
He has done well at Hibs and not had a sniff at a Scotland call up. Maybe doing well in Engerlund would improve his chances.
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Topic Originator: EEP
Date: Mon 1 Feb 21:20
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 1 Feb 21:35
Birmingham have walked away so either a good play by Hibs in retaining an asset they value, or a daft move where they've been greedy and will get a lower offer in the summer. You just never know in football.
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Mon 1 Feb 21:55
Quote:
jake89, Mon 01 Feb 21:35
Birmingham have walked away so either a good play by Hibs in retaining an asset they value, or a daft move where they've been greedy and will get a lower offer in the summer. You just never know in football.
Only daft move made today was by Nisbit himself. Gonna feel the wrath of the hibs fans for sure. Hibs done the right thing. They have committed to 4 years of for funding the lad and want paid what they rate him. If they recon it will take 2.5m to replace him then they need to consider taxes and our sell on fee....so aye hold out to try and get the minimum they need for a replacement.
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Topic Originator: AJ27
Date: Mon 1 Feb 22:03
Iām struggling to take Hibs side on this - if they genuinely think heās worth more than Ā£3.5m then they should be embarrassed at what they offered us.
Andy J
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 1 Feb 22:09
Agree Polt but it seems there's some questioning to be had over what is and isn't true in relation to the request. Whether reported accurately or not, the Hibees aren't happy. A lot pointing out he jumped ship from the wee team and then from us so isn't loyal.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Mon 1 Feb 22:20
Loyalty doesn't pay the bills. Footballers have a short career and big money moves don't come around often or at all for most players. Can't blame the lad. Hibs would also be making a fantastic profit on him for a short space of time. We would also cash in. I feel more sorry for the Rovers who got heehaw for him!
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Mon 1 Feb 22:21
I suspect this will hamper Nisbet a lot. His confidence is a fragile at best of times, this will be a blow.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 1 Feb 22:22
11.59 loan back to the Pars š
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 1 Feb 22:26
He'll get dugs abuse from the Easter Rd faithful at the next home game right enough.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 1 Feb 22:44
Hibs and Nisbet might regret this, maybe that is the best offer they will get
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 2 Feb 06:04
He was worth more than 300k when he left us for Hibs but he had to prove he could perform at the next level before snyone would pay good money to go any further. He did that so the value increased. We got a decent sell on clause to compensate for the lowish purchase price.
Makes sense. If he didnt perform 300k was the right price, maybe too much. He performed so we get our cut. All fair enough to me.
Post Edited (Tue 02 Feb 06:04)
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 2 Feb 07:52
[Hibs and Nisbet might regret this, maybe that is the best offer they will get]
I am reminded of Ken Mackie and the 50k offer we got from Rangers, back in the day. It was turned down and a dramatic loss of confidence and form by the young striker led to him eventually going to Falkirk for just 6k.
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Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par
Date: Tue 2 Feb 09:37
Nisbet`s only been there 6 months, I`d say it`s pretty poor on his part if he was trying to engineer a move - hopefully for Kevin`s sake that`s not the case. Hibs are entitled to do as they wish with any bids. They might never get a better offer, then again, his form might pick up again and he might be worth more in the summer, when hopefully the situation with the pandemic will be a lot better and the financial position of all clubs will also be much stronger.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 2 Feb 09:47
``I am reminded of Ken Mackie and the 50k offer we got from Rangers, back in the day. It was turned down and a dramatic loss of confidence and form by the young striker led to him eventually going to Falkirk for just 6k.``
Not quite, Oz. The offer was accepted by the club but Mackie refused to go. He didn`t feel ready for such a move, so the deal fell through. Many of us didn`t think he was worth Ā£50k, which was a huge fee then.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 2 Feb 10:52
Hibs played hard ball with Celtic over the John Mcginn move ,Hibs wanted what they thought Mcginn was worth plus the percentage due to St Mirren ,Celtic didn't pay ,and how they have regretted it .
I would imagine Nisbet is the same ,Hibs will want 3 million plus our cut around 300-500 k added on .
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 2 Feb 12:06
Quote:
GG Riva, Tue 2 Feb 09:47
``I am reminded of Ken Mackie and the 50k offer we got from Rangers, back in the day. It was turned down and a dramatic loss of confidence and form by the young striker led to him eventually going to Falkirk for just 6k.``
Not quite, Oz. The offer was accepted by the club but Mackie refused to go. He didn`t feel ready for such a move, so the deal fell through. Many of us didn`t think he was worth Ā£50k, which was a huge fee then.
I remember that day well, was really despondent at the news of Mackie, leaving us!
Don't think he kicked a ball after that!
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Topic Originator: mars par
Date: Tue 2 Feb 12:18
Parrot makes a good point above, he`s on form but still might not make the Scotland squad for the Euros. If he reckons proving himself at an English Championship club would boost his chances then it would maybe explain the rash decision to chuck in a transfer request to force a potential move through
This transfer window could have been an opportunity for the likes of Nisbet, Gilmour etc to boost their chances of forcing themselves into that squad. I personally can`t think of a (realistic) bigger achievement than representing Scotland at a major tournament
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Tue 2 Feb 12:46
Well it's over and done with now. He needs to explain himself to hibs fans. He should have kept his head down and kept working away.
It's understandable that he is ambitious but to hand in a transfer request with 8 hours to go until deadline was nieve when you have 3.5 years left on contract. However Hibs left both transfer targets on bench...so what else is Kev going to think. He knew other clubs were in for him and maybe wanted a say in where he was going to go. Brum not the best of choices Sheffield United and Sunderland were apparently interested parties as well.
Hibs were aiming to get more money and that is not helped by players handing in request to leave. So he has made his bed now and faces a difficult time ahead with fans and the club and a manager that's going to be looking at him in a different way from before which could have been avoided. The lads just made himself a mountain for himself to climb, when in hindsight would have been better for him to sit tight say and do nothing.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 2 Feb 12:48
Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at Hibs` training ground this morning.
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 2 Feb 13:13
the Courier:
"Dunfermline have missed out on Kevin Nisbet windfall following the collapse of the Hibs strikerās Ā£2.8 million transfer to Birmingham City.
The switch could have eventually netted the Pars over Ā£800,000 after they negotiated a 30-per-cent sell-on clause when the 23-year-old swapped East End Park for Easter Road in the summer for a fee of around Ā£250,000"
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Tue 2 Feb 13:13
Silly boy.
We can all say what we want about moving now for big money because you never know what can happen blah blah blah. What`s meant to happen will happen and all that.
But he should be doing the right thing and keeping his head down and working hard for hibs.
Chances are he gets what he wants eventually and the fans still love him...everybody`s happy !!
But to do this so early into his contract is football suicide I fear, besides, he`s still no all that yet.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Tue 2 Feb 13:17
Loyalty when playing for most Scottish clubs may not be very strong, particularly when the financial differentials are so diverse. I wouldn`t imagine Kevin will suffer too greatly in the eyes of his team mates or his manager because they probably have the same outlook. If no transfer has materialised, a return to form and a few goals and he will soon be seen as an asset again and maybe Hibs fans will have the same view of him as most Pars fan seem to and see him as a commodity rather than a young man trying to make his way in life.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 2 Feb 13:43
For any Hibs fan they'll now be thinking he's not interested in Hibs. That's certainly how I felt when he did the same with us.
To be clear, I don't blame any footballer for chasing the money, but it just felt disappointing to me that he didn't really care about the Pars. We're just another place he worked. That's no different to how I would feel in a lot of my old jobs but I think I live in the naive belief that there are guys who really love the team they play for.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Tue 2 Feb 13:45
All the blame is being put on Kevin here .
Hibs were prepared to sell him if they got another 500.000 .
My understsnding with other facts and tabloids ive read is that Kevin was happy at hibs but when he became a comodity he was not happy for his future and slapped in a transfer request .
This may be a lot of B.S ,but there is always two sides with man involved ,club ,agent ,player so not all fingers may point at Kevin .
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 2 Feb 13:49
Rigger, his "mistake" was putting in a transfer request. He should have played the game, kept his head down and his mouth shut, IMO.
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Tue 2 Feb 14:03
Agreed,he should have kept it quiet. He has just made things awkward for himself.
Post Edited (Tue 02 Feb 14:04)
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Topic Originator: Stoo
Date: Tue 2 Feb 14:09
Is any of this from reputable sources or just The Record and The Sun?
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Tue 2 Feb 14:13
I wouldn`t consider that Kevin had no special feelings for Raith Rovers, Dunfermline or Hibs. I would imagine he gave everything for each team he played for. Anyone who has ever played football seriously has probably played for several teams. Although, at a lower level, I can count 7 or 8 teams. I still have a real affection for each of them and I guess it`s the same for Kevin. Life moves on, players come and go.
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Tue 2 Feb 15:05
Quote:
Paralex, Tue 02 Feb 14:13
I wouldn`t consider that Kevin had no special feelings for Raith Rovers, Dunfermline or Hibs. I would imagine he gave everything for each team he played for. Anyone who has ever played football seriously has probably played for several teams. Although, at a lower level, I can count 7 or 8 teams. I still have a real affection for each of them and I guess it`s the same for Kevin. Life moves on, players come and go.
Going by photos of him when he was a nipper he supported Hibs growing up. I think for Kevin the red flag was when he was left out at the weekend. Then something MUST have happened for him to hand in request. Agent interference or comments made in discussions between himself and club over the situation at that time.
As i said rash decision but hey I have also made a few screw up decisions in my life
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 2 Feb 15:23
There's a lot of hypocrisy in football where money is concerned. How often does it happen that a manager will criticise a player who wants away, because he's heard a bigger club are interested in him, only for that same manager to walk away as soon as he's offered more money elsewhere?
I agree with Raymie, Nisbet's mistake was submitting a transfer request. If he did, was it on the advice of his agent? And who leaked it to the media and why? Paralex is right. Footballers generally do their best for whichever clubs they happen to play for and usually retain a soft spot for them, but they are not fans, so their outlook is different - loyalty is never going to be their top priority.
How many of you, who are currently in work, would elect to remain with your present employer if you were offered considerably more to do the same job by another employer?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: AJ27
Date: Tue 2 Feb 15:57
Charlie Adam is an interesting example - he is a Dundee fan at heart and often said heād love to end his career with them. However, through the bulk of his career he has played at other clubs where the financial recompense was much greater. Good on him.
Andy J
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Tue 2 Feb 16:31
A fundamental problem now is, players have more power these days and they know what to do to get a move...whether they know it or their agents fill them wi their nonsense.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 2 Feb 16:42
Quote:
AJ27, Tue 2 Feb 15:57
Charlie Adam is an interesting example - he is a Dundee fan at heart and often said heād love to end his career with them. However, through the bulk of his career he has played at other clubs where the financial recompense was much greater. Good on him.
Everything has fallen into place for Adam - Dundee wanted him AND he can no longer command silly salaries in the twilight of his career.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Jbob
Date: Tue 2 Feb 16:52
Hole dug.
Bobs of the world unite
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 2 Feb 17:02
Its going to be an interesting next few weeks for him If he did hand in a transfer request
Out of favour with Ross and the fans .... None or little game time and If he does play misses a few chance`s.... then it will start to get ugly
I hope it works out for him ..... time will tell
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 2 Feb 17:10
On the bench tonight, along with Porteous
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles
Date: Tue 2 Feb 17:13
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 2 Feb 17:10
On the bench tonight, along with Porteous
Nisbet has been fairly poor for the last 6 or 7 games anyway. Not withstanding what is going on he has deserved to get dropped on form alone.
Awight Pat!
Post Edited (Tue 02 Feb 17:14)
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Tue 2 Feb 17:17
Hey at least there's no fans to get on his back just now.š¤£
Admin
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 2 Feb 17:38
Unless you are a total tube with your money then a bang average player can be set for life from one 2 or 3 year contract these days, even at a smaller Premiership club, and never kick a ball for them.
Everyone wants a slice of the pie before the bottom collapases out of it (surely it has to sooner or later?) so agents are filling players heads full of mince as they know it's the golden goose.
Random point but we got chatting to a couple on holiday a few years ago now and the husband worked in the medical deparrment at Sunderland. Some of the stories you would struggle to believe but the best one was regarding Asamoah Gyan who they signed for a hell of a lot of money off the back of a strong World Cup for Ghana (so Sunderand seemed a strange destination).
Apparently the remit to his agent was wanted a 'big club' in London. So with nothing happening on that front said agent sold him on the fact that Sunderland as it "was only 30 minutes from London"......
He ended up scunnered, lasted a few months then disappeared on loan somewhere in the middle East.
The next time Sunderland were involved with the same agent for another player the issue was brought up regarding Gyan and the agent said, words to the effect, that he didn't make any false promises or lies as it was infact 'a 30 minute flight from Newcastle'.
That's what you are up against. You can see why so many managers and officials despise them :-)
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Post Edited (Tue 02 Feb 17:39)
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Tue 2 Feb 20:06
Left on the bench tonight, Jack Ross denying he put in a transfer request
Ross explains Nisbet absence
St Mirren v Hibernian (18:00)
On why striker Kevin Nisbet is on the bench after a bid from Birmingham was turned down, head coach Jack Ross tells BBC Sportsound: "Heās focused on replicating the form he`s been in and the fact he`s not starting tonight is a reflection of how well the team played at the weekend.
"Heās in a good place and heās fully aware that the only way he will attract that similar type of interest in the summer is by continuing to play well."
On reports suggesting Nisbet submitted a transfer request, Ross denies it before adding: "I think he was keen to explore an opportunity that may have been significant for him.
"I think we can all acknowledge that. You become emotional over that time. I was never going to be critical of him. It was a challenging few days for him as a young man."
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 2 Feb 20:14
Excellent reply from Ross
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 2 Feb 20:25
Quote:
Buspasspar, Tue 2 Feb 20:14
Excellent reply from Ross
Yes, he's like the loving father welcoming back his prodigal son.
So did he or didn't he? (As per the thread title.)
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 2 Feb 20:31
Depends who you believe I suppose G.G. I hope Jack Ross would not lie and perhaps the transfer request was internet speculation .. I really hope so and it all ends well
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 2 Feb 20:57
Quote:
Buspasspar, Tue 2 Feb 20:31
Depends who you believe I suppose G.G. I hope Jack Ross would not lie and perhaps the transfer request was internet speculation .. I really hope so and it all ends well
Thing is, if he did and Hibs leaked it, what did they hope to achieve? Alienate an unhappy player further? It doesn't make sense if they wanted to keep him.
If he didn't put in a request, who is the mischief maker and why? I had my doubts when I saw this thread, but it's perfectly possible that Nisbet (and his agent) tabled the request in the hope of forcing Hibs to agree to the move. Jack Ross, would be failing his player if he didn't support him at this time since, reading between the lines, he was clearly keen to move to England.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 2 Feb 21:08
Speculation by the media. Why would anyone in the know reveal information that could only cause harm to everyone involved?
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 2 Feb 21:09
Who knows G.G. we are not privy to the inner sanctum of Easter road although it would appear that some are
Time the conquerer will tell
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Tue 2 Feb 21:15
On reports suggesting Nisbet submitted a transfer request, Ross denies it before adding: "I think he was keen to explore an opportunity that may have been significant for him.
It seems he denies it but also depending how it is read it is also an admition that Kevin was frustrated at not being allowed to talk to them.
Regardless Ross done well handling the media with regards to this and that's the kind of manager that Kevin needs pretty sure he will be happy with the deflection and media statement.
Guy just has to keep his head down work hard play like he can every week and prove he deserves a bigger payday.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 2 Feb 21:21
Good post Polt
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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