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 Clarity
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 6 Feb 16:50

We as fans deserve clarity on why Dom and turner out the sqaud
Crawfprd has spoke about transparency on a number of times and to simply brush it off as he needs to pick the best 18 for a squad im sorry is bull.

No disrespect to Matty Todd but is he better or more suiteble than Turner



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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sat 6 Feb 16:52

Thomas has broke the 2m distancing rule with Turner

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: pars no1  
Date:   Sat 6 Feb 17:02

Thomas I believe is out due to COVID issues
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 6 Feb 17:16

Thomas deserves to be out for his "contributions" after we best hearts he's been rotten.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Livingston Par  
Date:   Sat 6 Feb 17:23

We were all amazed when killie let him go, if there are attitude issues maybe that was why.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Sat 6 Feb 17:35

I feel we need a statement about the lack of a statement... Or something 🤣


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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 6 Feb 17:53

Nobody was bothered about Turner and Thomas`s omission on Wednesday night, in fact some were saying Thomas needed a break. Wewhad him on loan last season so if he has `attitude issues` surely they would have been obvious then.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sat 6 Feb 18:03

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wee eck, Sat 6 Feb 17:53

Nobody was bothered about Turner and Thomas`s omission on Wednesday night, in fact some were saying Thomas needed a break. Wewhad him on loan last season so if he has `attitude issues` surely they would have been obvious then.


When he was out of favour at his club and needed to extract the digit to get his career back on track he did well. Same this season when the team were playing free flowing football and he was clearly enjoying himself.
Then you get to the second round of games and teams start to make things more difficult.
It's how you deal with the difficult situations that makes the difference.
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: PARS207  
Date:   Sat 6 Feb 18:05

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wee eck, Sat 6 Feb 17:53

Nobody was bothered about Turner and Thomas`s omission on Wednesday night, in fact some were saying Thomas needed a break. Wewhad him on loan last season so if he has `attitude issues` surely they would have been obvious then.


exactly spot on about Wednesday night but course bad game today and suddenly we need to know what's going on and the reasons for it.. Forgetting the lad hasn't kicked a ball since the Hearts home game, Fraser Murray got man of the match the other night and we signed another wide player in Banks
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 6 Feb 21:21

Two players "mysteriously" absent from the squad and some of you need ann explanation and clarity.

Doesn't take Hercule Poirot to work out the most probable cause.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 6 Feb 21:26

Turner has been an unused sub for the last two games but no sign of Thomas.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Stoo  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 10:33

If you dont say anything you create a vacuum which sucks in speculation, those are the rules, so lets speculate.

Its a laugh.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: dover par  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 12:56

One can’t play and the other doesn’t want to.

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 19:22

Turner was put forward as a swap for Wighton instead as Hearts wanted a fee. It didn’t happen ( obviously). Turner wasn’t happy that the club were looking to trade him in. I don’t post gossip ( and obviously live in Coventry) - so I’m not spouting speculation. The above is a fact.

"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: PARS207  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 19:39

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coventrypar, Sun 7 Feb 19:22

Turner was put forward as a swap for Wighton instead as Hearts wanted a fee. It didn’t happen ( obviously). Turner wasn’t happy that the club were looking to trade him in. I don’t post gossip ( and obviously live in Coventry) - so I’m not spouting speculation. The above is a fact.


and this came from what reliable source.....
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 20:41

As he is in contract I would think he would be consulted.
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 20:59

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coventrypar, Sun 7 Feb 19:22

Turner was put forward as a swap for Wighton instead as Hearts wanted a fee. It didn’t happen ( obviously). Turner wasn’t happy that the club were looking to trade him in. I don’t post gossip ( and obviously live in Coventry) - so I’m not spouting speculation. The above is a fact.


and this came from what reliable source.....

I`m not about to name my source.
Take it or leave it. I seldom post.

"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 21:02

IndiaPar said
As he is in contract I would think he would be consulted....


I`m not saying he wasn`t consulted - I`m saying he wasn`t happy when consulted that they were happy to trade him in for a different model.

"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 22:03

Trade Turner for Wighton..... I would expect £100k on top of that. I’m sure the jambos were trying their luck there... but if I was Turner I wouldn’t be happy tbh.
Turner probably booted Thomas in training as he has a bad attitude...

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 22:20

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coventrypar, Sun 07 Feb 20:59

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coventrypar, Sun 7 Feb 19:22

Turner was put forward as a swap for Wighton instead as Hearts wanted a fee. It didn’t happen ( obviously). Turner wasn’t happy that the club were looking to trade him in. I don’t post gossip ( and obviously live in Coventry) - so I’m not spouting speculation. The above is a fact.


and this came from what reliable source.....

I`m not about to name my source.
Take it or leave it. I seldom post.


That normally translates to I have no reliable source I just made it up

Come on ye pars ⚽️
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 22:32

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EEP, Sun 7 Feb 22:03

Trade Turner for Wighton..... I would expect £100k on top of that. I’m sure the jambos were trying their luck there..


Turner's out of contract in May though is he not?
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 23:05

If true, its a strange thing to get upset about. A move to Hearts would be a step up for Turner. If his contract expires in May and he hasn't signed a new one, maybe he doesnt want to stay with us anyway.
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 23:15

Hang on...so if this is true 1. Why would Turner be unhappy to get a new contract for a club that is almost guaranteed to be in the Premier League and 2. If Turner loves it here so much, why is that contract extension offer still sat in his glovebox?



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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: PARS207  
Date:   Sun 7 Feb 23:55

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jake89, Sun 7 Feb 23:15

Hang on...so if this is true 1. Why would Turner be unhappy to get a new contract for a club that is almost guaranteed to be in the Premier League and 2. If Turner loves it here so much, why is that contract extension offer still sat in his glovebox?



exactly!!

total BS rumour.
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 07:41

Unless it’s the other way around, and Wighton for Turner was what Hearts put on the table. Turner wanted to leave but the club decided they’d rather keep him for remainder of season and didn’t want to pay a fee either.

Makes more sense why he would be miffed (if he even is) as an opportunity for him to join Hearts won’t come around all that often.

Pure speculation ofcourse.
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Parstu  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 08:14

I `heard` that Turner and Thomas had a bit of fisty cuffs in training. Turner got a 1 game ban and Thomas 3 games from the club. Turner missed the Hearts game and Thomas has now missed Hearts, Raith, Arbroath. If this is true Thomas maybe in the squad on saturday.

Pars forever...not just for Christmas!!!
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 09:44

If the club has taken disciplinary measures against employees for misconduct then that`s a confidential internal issue for the manager etc. - details not for the public domain.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 09:52

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veteraneastender, Mon 8 Feb 09:44

If the club has taken disciplinary measures against employees for misconduct then that`s a confidential internal issue for the manager etc. - details not for the public domain.


Agreed. This is also true if it's a load of old made up pony and trap.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 15:53

Good tune by Zedd.

I Know There's Gonna Be (Good Times)
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 15:54

Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 8 Feb 09:44

If the club has taken disciplinary measures against employees for misconduct then that`s a confidential internal issue for the manager etc. - details not for the public domain.


Remind me who put this in the public domain ?

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 17:08

The OP would be my prime suspect.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 18:34

What? How did I put it in the public domain? SC was asked and brushed it over

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 18:40

Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 8 Feb 09:44

If the club has taken disciplinary measures against employees for misconduct then that`s a confidential internal issue for the manager etc. - details not for the public domain.

Looks like veteran hasn`t done his homework

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 19:12

Oh a wee bit of fisty cuffs on the training pitch and players get banned..... honestly wtf....🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 19:36

"Looks like veteran hasn`t done his homework"

I had no awareness of any drama until it was posted here.

As I said no need for the DETAILS to be punted into the public domain, regardless of the source.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 21:08

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RMGpar, Mon 8 Feb 18:34

What? How did I put it in the public domain? SC was asked and brushed it over


And that is exactly what he should have done if it was a disciplinary matter. Naebody elses business.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 21:19

What difference does it make? We haven't missed Thomas as he would probably have put the same half arsed effort he has since tm hearts at home and Wilson has stepped up in turner's absence 🤷‍♂️

c'mon the pars

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 21:22

So, if I read this thread correctly, SC is being accused of bringing this out into the open AND of hushing it up! Brilliant.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Mon 8 Feb 21:26

Hey it's the madcap kooky world of dotnet... Anythings possible 🤣


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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 08:03

veteran- the manager brought it into the public domain, suggesting at the same time he wanted to keep it in house which is a contradiction. Thus folk have started to speculate.

Obviously Stevie is still learning as a manager, he’s made a couple of astute changes at half-time earlier in the season to show that he’s adapting on the tactical front but his media skills need work, the last two post-match interviews have been naive.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 08:48

TBF, if someone asks why someone isn't in the team it's a difficult one to reply to.
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 09:37

Quote:

Westies squint kicks, Tue 09 Feb 08:03

veteran- the manager brought it into the public domain, suggesting at the same time he wanted to keep it in house which is a contradiction. Thus folk have started to speculate.

Obviously Stevie is still learning as a manager, he’s made a couple of astute changes at half-time earlier in the season to show that he’s adapting on the tactical front but his media skills need work, the last two post-match interviews have been naive.


I don’t see a contradiction. If he was clear it was going to be dealt with internally that should have been the end of it.
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 15:26

There was no incident in the public domain until Crawford told the media.
He was asked about their availability and all he had to do was say “not selected for today’s game”. Instead he waffles something happened at training yesterday I want to keep it in house.
If he’s asked why they’re not selected you just say I picked the best 18 for today’s game.

The contradiction is you can’t tell the media about an incident if you genuinely want to keep it in house.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 15:38

He would just have deflected the problem temporarily if he`d said that. Thomas`s absence from the squad in the next two games would just have raised more questions. As jake89 says it`s impossible to deal with such a question satisfactorily.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 16:37

Not sure if I am wrong but I do actually believe we should know as fans. I actually sponsor one of the players mentioned and would like to know if they have done something to bring the club into disrepute.

Whether he is on form or not, the 2 of them are probably regarded as 2 of our best players and keeping them out of the team is going to raise obvious eyebrows.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Ben,D.A  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 16:45

This thread is like a training ground.
We all have opinions on this forum and some disagree to the extent it gets personal.
It would be fun to watch them training.

only 11 make the team,the rest can just but dream.
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 19:42

https://dafc.co.uk/story.php?t=Victory_for_covid_protocols&ID=12845

Thomas had tested positive for Covid

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: par-adise  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 20:19

Totally unprofessional of Crawford trying to protect the confidentiality of DT`s health record...

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: parsloyal98  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 21:15

Don’t know why the club’s stance wasn’t just “player tested positive for COVID” from the start. There was only such speculation over his absence as Crawford described it as a training ground incident.



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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Leamington_sPAR  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 21:47

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parsloyal98, Tue 09 Feb 21:15

Don’t know why the club’s stance wasn’t just “player tested positive for COVID” from the start. There was only such speculation over his absence as Crawford described it as a training ground incident.



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Perhaps Dom didn’t want it disclosed at the time and especially as the club would have been subject to an investigation to figure out if others could be impacted. Remember this is a personal health issue.
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: SeasonedPar  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 21:57

Let’s hope he gets through without anything serious to his health.

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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Tue 9 Feb 22:21

Yes agree, its a personal issue. Also the club are bound by the data protection act
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: The Toun Clock  
Date:   Wed 10 Feb 15:23

Dom had COVID as confirmed by Stevie on COWS. He was due back in training today but training was cancelled due to the snow.

Welcome back DT23!

Can maybe assume he and Turner were in close contact meaning Turner had to self isolate for a lesser period of time and had negative test results?



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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Wed 10 Feb 16:19

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The Toun Clock, Wed 10 Feb 15:23

Dom had COVID as confirmed by Stevie on COWS. He was due back in training today but training was cancelled due to the snow.

Welcome back DT23!

Can maybe assume he and Turner were in close contact meaning Turner had to self isolate for a lesser period of time and had negative test results?



Time to go back and check all the posts with FACTS and in the know sources on this thread. 😂
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 Re: Clarity
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Wed 10 Feb 16:24

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Row_ZZ, Mon 8 Feb 15:53

Good tune by Zedd.


There's no such thing 😂😂😉
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