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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sat 6 Feb 16:50
We as fans deserve clarity on why Dom and turner out the sqaud
Crawfprd has spoke about transparency on a number of times and to simply brush it off as he needs to pick the best 18 for a squad im sorry is bull.
No disrespect to Matty Todd but is he better or more suiteble than Turner
Post Edited (Sat 06 Feb 16:52)
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 6 Feb 16:52
Thomas has broke the 2m distancing rule with Turner
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Sat 6 Feb 17:02
Thomas I believe is out due to COVID issues
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 6 Feb 17:16
Thomas deserves to be out for his "contributions" after we best hearts he's been rotten.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Livingston Par
Date: Sat 6 Feb 17:23
We were all amazed when killie let him go, if there are attitude issues maybe that was why.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Sat 6 Feb 17:35
I feel we need a statement about the lack of a statement... Or something š¤£
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 6 Feb 17:53
Nobody was bothered about Turner and Thomas`s omission on Wednesday night, in fact some were saying Thomas needed a break. Wewhad him on loan last season so if he has `attitude issues` surely they would have been obvious then.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sat 6 Feb 18:03
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 6 Feb 17:53
Nobody was bothered about Turner and Thomas`s omission on Wednesday night, in fact some were saying Thomas needed a break. Wewhad him on loan last season so if he has `attitude issues` surely they would have been obvious then.
When he was out of favour at his club and needed to extract the digit to get his career back on track he did well. Same this season when the team were playing free flowing football and he was clearly enjoying himself.
Then you get to the second round of games and teams start to make things more difficult.
It's how you deal with the difficult situations that makes the difference.
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Topic Originator: PARS207
Date: Sat 6 Feb 18:05
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 6 Feb 17:53
Nobody was bothered about Turner and Thomas`s omission on Wednesday night, in fact some were saying Thomas needed a break. Wewhad him on loan last season so if he has `attitude issues` surely they would have been obvious then.
exactly spot on about Wednesday night but course bad game today and suddenly we need to know what's going on and the reasons for it.. Forgetting the lad hasn't kicked a ball since the Hearts home game, Fraser Murray got man of the match the other night and we signed another wide player in Banks
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 6 Feb 21:21
Two players "mysteriously" absent from the squad and some of you need ann explanation and clarity.
Doesn't take Hercule Poirot to work out the most probable cause.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 6 Feb 21:26
Turner has been an unused sub for the last two games but no sign of Thomas.
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Topic Originator: Stoo
Date: Sun 7 Feb 10:33
If you dont say anything you create a vacuum which sucks in speculation, those are the rules, so lets speculate.
Its a laugh.
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Topic Originator: dover par
Date: Sun 7 Feb 12:56
One canāt play and the other doesnāt want to.
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
Post Edited (Sun 07 Feb 12:56)
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Sun 7 Feb 19:22
Turner was put forward as a swap for Wighton instead as Hearts wanted a fee. It didnāt happen ( obviously). Turner wasnāt happy that the club were looking to trade him in. I donāt post gossip ( and obviously live in Coventry) - so Iām not spouting speculation. The above is a fact.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: PARS207
Date: Sun 7 Feb 19:39
Quote:
coventrypar, Sun 7 Feb 19:22
Turner was put forward as a swap for Wighton instead as Hearts wanted a fee. It didnāt happen ( obviously). Turner wasnāt happy that the club were looking to trade him in. I donāt post gossip ( and obviously live in Coventry) - so Iām not spouting speculation. The above is a fact.
and this came from what reliable source.....
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sun 7 Feb 20:41
As he is in contract I would think he would be consulted.
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Sun 7 Feb 20:59
Quote:
coventrypar, Sun 7 Feb 19:22
Turner was put forward as a swap for Wighton instead as Hearts wanted a fee. It didnāt happen ( obviously). Turner wasnāt happy that the club were looking to trade him in. I donāt post gossip ( and obviously live in Coventry) - so Iām not spouting speculation. The above is a fact.
and this came from what reliable source.....
I`m not about to name my source.
Take it or leave it. I seldom post.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Sun 7 Feb 21:02
IndiaPar said
As he is in contract I would think he would be consulted....
I`m not saying he wasn`t consulted - I`m saying he wasn`t happy when consulted that they were happy to trade him in for a different model.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: EEP
Date: Sun 7 Feb 22:03
Trade Turner for Wighton..... I would expect Ā£100k on top of that. Iām sure the jambos were trying their luck there... but if I was Turner I wouldnāt be happy tbh.
Turner probably booted Thomas in training as he has a bad attitude...
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Topic Originator: back oh the net
Date: Sun 7 Feb 22:20
Quote:
coventrypar, Sun 07 Feb 20:59
Quote:
coventrypar, Sun 7 Feb 19:22
Turner was put forward as a swap for Wighton instead as Hearts wanted a fee. It didnāt happen ( obviously). Turner wasnāt happy that the club were looking to trade him in. I donāt post gossip ( and obviously live in Coventry) - so Iām not spouting speculation. The above is a fact.
and this came from what reliable source.....
I`m not about to name my source.
Take it or leave it. I seldom post.
That normally translates to I have no reliable source I just made it up
Come on ye pars ā½ļø
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 7 Feb 22:32
Quote:
EEP, Sun 7 Feb 22:03
Trade Turner for Wighton..... I would expect Ā£100k on top of that. Iām sure the jambos were trying their luck there..
Turner's out of contract in May though is he not?
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sun 7 Feb 23:05
If true, its a strange thing to get upset about. A move to Hearts would be a step up for Turner. If his contract expires in May and he hasn't signed a new one, maybe he doesnt want to stay with us anyway.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 7 Feb 23:15
Hang on...so if this is true 1. Why would Turner be unhappy to get a new contract for a club that is almost guaranteed to be in the Premier League and 2. If Turner loves it here so much, why is that contract extension offer still sat in his glovebox?
Post Edited (Sun 07 Feb 23:16)
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Topic Originator: PARS207
Date: Sun 7 Feb 23:55
Quote:
jake89, Sun 7 Feb 23:15
Hang on...so if this is true 1. Why would Turner be unhappy to get a new contract for a club that is almost guaranteed to be in the Premier League and 2. If Turner loves it here so much, why is that contract extension offer still sat in his glovebox?
exactly!!
total BS rumour.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 8 Feb 07:41
Unless itās the other way around, and Wighton for Turner was what Hearts put on the table. Turner wanted to leave but the club decided theyād rather keep him for remainder of season and didnāt want to pay a fee either.
Makes more sense why he would be miffed (if he even is) as an opportunity for him to join Hearts wonāt come around all that often.
Pure speculation ofcourse.
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Topic Originator: Parstu
Date: Mon 8 Feb 08:14
I `heard` that Turner and Thomas had a bit of fisty cuffs in training. Turner got a 1 game ban and Thomas 3 games from the club. Turner missed the Hearts game and Thomas has now missed Hearts, Raith, Arbroath. If this is true Thomas maybe in the squad on saturday.
Pars forever...not just for Christmas!!!
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 8 Feb 09:44
If the club has taken disciplinary measures against employees for misconduct then that`s a confidential internal issue for the manager etc. - details not for the public domain.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 8 Feb 09:52
Quote:
veteraneastender, Mon 8 Feb 09:44
If the club has taken disciplinary measures against employees for misconduct then that`s a confidential internal issue for the manager etc. - details not for the public domain.
Agreed. This is also true if it's a load of old made up pony and trap.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Mon 8 Feb 15:53
Good tune by Zedd.
I Know There's Gonna Be (Good Times)
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Mon 8 Feb 15:54
Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 8 Feb 09:44
If the club has taken disciplinary measures against employees for misconduct then that`s a confidential internal issue for the manager etc. - details not for the public domain.
Remind me who put this in the public domain ?
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 8 Feb 17:08
The OP would be my prime suspect.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 8 Feb 18:34
What? How did I put it in the public domain? SC was asked and brushed it over
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Mon 8 Feb 18:40
Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 8 Feb 09:44
If the club has taken disciplinary measures against employees for misconduct then that`s a confidential internal issue for the manager etc. - details not for the public domain.
Looks like veteran hasn`t done his homework
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Topic Originator: EEP
Date: Mon 8 Feb 19:12
Oh a wee bit of fisty cuffs on the training pitch and players get banned..... honestly wtf....š¤·š»āāļøš¤·š»āāļøš¤·š»āāļø
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 8 Feb 19:36
"Looks like veteran hasn`t done his homework"
I had no awareness of any drama until it was posted here.
As I said no need for the DETAILS to be punted into the public domain, regardless of the source.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 8 Feb 21:08
Quote:
RMGpar, Mon 8 Feb 18:34
What? How did I put it in the public domain? SC was asked and brushed it over
And that is exactly what he should have done if it was a disciplinary matter. Naebody elses business.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 8 Feb 21:19
What difference does it make? We haven't missed Thomas as he would probably have put the same half arsed effort he has since tm hearts at home and Wilson has stepped up in turner's absence š¤·āāļø
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Mon 08 Feb 21:20)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 8 Feb 21:22
So, if I read this thread correctly, SC is being accused of bringing this out into the open AND of hushing it up! Brilliant.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Mon 8 Feb 21:26
Hey it's the madcap kooky world of dotnet... Anythings possible š¤£
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Tue 9 Feb 08:03
veteran- the manager brought it into the public domain, suggesting at the same time he wanted to keep it in house which is a contradiction. Thus folk have started to speculate.
Obviously Stevie is still learning as a manager, heās made a couple of astute changes at half-time earlier in the season to show that heās adapting on the tactical front but his media skills need work, the last two post-match interviews have been naive.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 9 Feb 08:48
TBF, if someone asks why someone isn't in the team it's a difficult one to reply to.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 9 Feb 09:37
Quote:
Westies squint kicks, Tue 09 Feb 08:03
veteran- the manager brought it into the public domain, suggesting at the same time he wanted to keep it in house which is a contradiction. Thus folk have started to speculate.
Obviously Stevie is still learning as a manager, heās made a couple of astute changes at half-time earlier in the season to show that heās adapting on the tactical front but his media skills need work, the last two post-match interviews have been naive.
I donāt see a contradiction. If he was clear it was going to be dealt with internally that should have been the end of it.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Tue 9 Feb 15:26
There was no incident in the public domain until Crawford told the media.
He was asked about their availability and all he had to do was say ānot selected for todayās gameā. Instead he waffles something happened at training yesterday I want to keep it in house.
If heās asked why theyāre not selected you just say I picked the best 18 for todayās game.
The contradiction is you canāt tell the media about an incident if you genuinely want to keep it in house.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 9 Feb 15:38
He would just have deflected the problem temporarily if he`d said that. Thomas`s absence from the squad in the next two games would just have raised more questions. As jake89 says it`s impossible to deal with such a question satisfactorily.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Tue 9 Feb 16:37
Not sure if I am wrong but I do actually believe we should know as fans. I actually sponsor one of the players mentioned and would like to know if they have done something to bring the club into disrepute.
Whether he is on form or not, the 2 of them are probably regarded as 2 of our best players and keeping them out of the team is going to raise obvious eyebrows.
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Topic Originator: Ben,D.A
Date: Tue 9 Feb 16:45
This thread is like a training ground.
We all have opinions on this forum and some disagree to the extent it gets personal.
It would be fun to watch them training.
only 11 make the team,the rest can just but dream.
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Topic Originator: par-adise
Date: Tue 9 Feb 20:19
Totally unprofessional of Crawford trying to protect the confidentiality of DT`s health record...
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Topic Originator: parsloyal98
Date: Tue 9 Feb 21:15
Donāt know why the clubās stance wasnāt just āplayer tested positive for COVIDā from the start. There was only such speculation over his absence as Crawford described it as a training ground incident.
Post Edited (Tue 09 Feb 21:19)
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Topic Originator: Leamington_sPAR
Date: Tue 9 Feb 21:47
Quote:
parsloyal98, Tue 09 Feb 21:15
Donāt know why the clubās stance wasnāt just āplayer tested positive for COVIDā from the start. There was only such speculation over his absence as Crawford described it as a training ground incident.
Post Edited (Tue 09 Feb 21:19)
Perhaps Dom didnāt want it disclosed at the time and especially as the club would have been subject to an investigation to figure out if others could be impacted. Remember this is a personal health issue.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Tue 9 Feb 21:57
Letās hope he gets through without anything serious to his health.
Post Edited (Wed 10 Feb 11:13)
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Tue 9 Feb 22:21
Yes agree, its a personal issue. Also the club are bound by the data protection act
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Topic Originator: The Toun Clock
Date: Wed 10 Feb 15:23
Dom had COVID as confirmed by Stevie on COWS. He was due back in training today but training was cancelled due to the snow.
Welcome back DT23!
Can maybe assume he and Turner were in close contact meaning Turner had to self isolate for a lesser period of time and had negative test results?
Post Edited (Wed 10 Feb 17:05)
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Wed 10 Feb 16:19
Quote:
The Toun Clock, Wed 10 Feb 15:23
Dom had COVID as confirmed by Stevie on COWS. He was due back in training today but training was cancelled due to the snow.
Welcome back DT23!
Can maybe assume he and Turner were in close contact meaning Turner had to self isolate for a lesser period of time and had negative test results?
Time to go back and check all the posts with FACTS and in the know sources on this thread. š
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Wed 10 Feb 16:24
Quote:
Row_ZZ, Mon 8 Feb 15:53
Good tune by Zedd.
There's no such thing ššš
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