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 Turner
Topic Originator: 13en  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 09:32

Posted a picture of himself doing a 5K run yesterday and wasn’t even in the squad. What is actually going on here? Is his time up with us?
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 09:44

A statement from the board is really needed on this.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 09:55

Clearly indicating he is fit and therefore his exclusion is for another reason
Very similar to what Gareth Bale done recently
I wouldn’t have thought the manager will be too happy with the action?




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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Connor560  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 10:22

He had a great start to the season, then all of a sudden can't get in the squad.

Contract issue potentially, or something more.

Boy needs to keep his feet on the ground, he had obvious ability but 10 decent games doesn't make you a world beater!

C'mon Ye Pars!
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: PARS207  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 10:47

Quote:

Raymie the Legend, Sun 21 Feb 09:55

Clearly indicating he is fit and therefore his exclusion is for another reason
Very similar to what Gareth Bale done recently
I wouldn’t have thought the manager will be too happy with the action?


well said Raymie!!
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 12:18

Honestly, if it is the case he has signed a pre-contract elsewhere I couldn't care less. He needs to be in the starting 11. Whatever the reason is for punting him out the squad it better be good or this is beyond petty
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 12:29

If he’s running down his contract, then the manager is right to concentrate on the players who want to play for us.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: rossmcno1  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 12:36

He was poor last season. He’s had a decent half of a season. Behaviour like that really annoys me. Other managers looking at that won’t like it either.

Why do players think they’re being clever with antics like this? Do they not realise the wider implications on them for the future?

This is why I would never be any good as a football manager, I’d have called him out for it publicly and dropped him right in the brown stuff with the fans. Luckily Crawford is a bit more level headed than I 😂



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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 13:09

Here we go again. Speculation becomes fact after a few posts.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 13:10

Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe like | nolike
Date: Sun 21 Feb 12:29

If he’s running down his contract, then the manager is right to concentrate on the players who want to play for us.


Like our Captain ?

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 13:24

^^ which could be totally different situations IF that is what it is.

""He was poor last season. He’s had a decent half of a season"

id say a decent half of last season in total and a decent couple of games at most this season, stuff about him being great at the start and a must in the starting line up i dont agree with at all.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 14:21

Obviously whatever the issue is the player nor the manager wishes to comment on it. There is no point in speculating what those reasons are. The bottom line is thst he is not currently being selected.
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 15:06

Ach who cares, 11 games to go, in second place, just enjoy the ride and have a beer.
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: morvenpar  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 15:55

My guess is a breach of covid protocol

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 18:02

Maybe the manager thinks he knows better than you lot. Just a thought

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 18:44

I heard it's because he's been posting nonsense on dafc.net and got a red card off widtink. Crawford found out and threw the book at him. Heard it from Michelle on Facebook who knows Turner's partner.
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 20:37

Quote:

desparado, Sun 21 Feb 13:10

Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe like | nolike
Date: Sun 21 Feb 12:29

If he’s running down his contract, then the manager is right to concentrate on the players who want to play for us.


Like our Captain ?


It’s a good point however I’d suggest our captain hasn’t decided on his future as yet whereas it seems Kyle Turner has absolutely ruled out staying at EEP.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 20:45

If that is his attitude, it may well backfire, sometimes it`s best to make the most of what you have and let the future take care of itself. It would be a pity because with the opportunity we were giving him he was improving.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Sun 21 Feb 21:08

Quote:

jake89, Sun 21 Feb 18:44

I heard it's because he's been posting nonsense on dafc.net and got a red card off widtink. Crawford found out and threw the book at him. Heard it from Michelle on Facebook who knows Turner's partner.


I'm pleading the fifth.
I know nothing etc... 😳


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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: par_33  
Date:   Wed 24 Feb 18:27

This lad will end up back playing at Stranraer in 3 years time if he`s not careful. A move to a Premiership team on a 3 year deal etc to be then punted on loan after a year and seeing his contract out and leaving the club.

Half a decent season buys a move to the top flight, fair play. He was a raw talent last season and that was that.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Wed 24 Feb 18:54

Think it’s funny folk are passing judgement on Turner when no one actually knows the reason why he is out of the team.

This happened with Dom Thomas and it was because he tested positive for COVID.

That being said i don’t see where the issue would be in asking Crawford what’s up in the next interview, it’s a pretty pertinent question, wouldn’t expect him to answer it 100% but might give us more of an idea.
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 12:25

He`s clearly not got COVID if he is out doing 5k runs and bragging about it on social media.

I suspect he has said he wants out and won`t consider a new contract, leaving Crawford little choice but to drop him for essentially showing a lack of commitment.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 12:42

I think Stevie is going to have to come out and state what is going on with Turner. It has gone past the time where the matter can be covered up any longer. If he is not going to be part of the team going forward then say so. The fans are entitled to get an explanation of why this is the case.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Gem 1977  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 13:14

I can`t recall him being asked by any interviewer what the story is with Turner. Until the question is asked he doesn`t need to say a thing.

Here's to the first of the day, fellas! To old D.H. Lawrence.
Neh! Neh! Neh! Fuh! Fuh! Fuh! Indians

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 13:17

Fans are entitled to fk all.

I`m a fan of a club. If I pay some money I`m entitled to go and watch them play (normally). That`s it.

If the manager doesn`t pick a player, it`s pretty much down to one of 4` things.

1 - The manager thinks there are other players in the squad who are more deserving of a place.
2 - He`s carrying an injury (believe it or not, you can still run 5k in a straight line whilst "injured")
3 - The manager has been told the player wants to leave & therefore thinks the team would be better filled with players who want to stay
4 - The manager thinks he`s a d1ck.

I can sleep easy at night knowing it`s one of these things. Oh aye, and having seen him play, he`s no even that gid.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 14:51

If we did find out why he's not playing what difference will it make? Won't make any difference apart from you lot will have something to moan about.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: AlterPar  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 14:53

Pretty much as above tbh! Could simply no be performing in training or manager doesn’t fancy him atm.

It’s always funny reading statuses like these.
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Lambo1885  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 15:21

"Fans are entitled to fk all.

I`m a fan of a club. If I pay some money I`m entitled to go and watch them play (normally). That`s it.

If the manager doesn`t pick a player, it`s pretty much down to one of 4` things.

1 - The manager thinks there are other players in the squad who are more deserving of a place.
2 - He`s carrying an injury (believe it or not, you can still run 5k in a straight line whilst "injured")
3 - The manager has been told the player wants to leave & therefore thinks the team would be better filled with players who want to stay
4 - The manager thinks he`s a d1ck.

I can sleep easy at night knowing it`s one of these things. Oh aye, and having seen him play, he`s no even that gid."

I have to say, number 4 made me chuckle....

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: rossmcno1  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 18:38

Lambo1885 wrote:

> "Fans are entitled to fk all.
>
> I`m a fan of a club. If I pay some money I`m entitled to go and
> watch them play (normally). That`s it.
>
> If the manager doesn`t pick a player, it`s pretty much down to
> one of 4` things.
>
> 1 - The manager thinks there are other players in the squad who
> are more deserving of a place.
> 2 - He`s carrying an injury (believe it or not, you can still
> run 5k in a straight line whilst "injured")
> 3 - The manager has been told the player wants to leave &
> therefore thinks the team would be better filled with players
> who want to stay
> 4 - The manager thinks he`s a d1ck.
>
> I can sleep easy at night knowing it`s one of these things. Oh
> aye, and having seen him play, he`s no even that gid."
>
> I have to say, number 4 made me chuckle....
>
>



In the spirit of balance, maybe there’s an option 5. The manager is a d1ck 😂

(I don’t think so, think number 3 most likely) 😉



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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 19:17

I’m with OzPar on this one - based purely on performances this season so far he’d walk into the team.

In common with other Season ticket holders I’ve paid a lot of money this season to watch the team on Pars TV - I think a simple explanation of why he’s not in the team is not too much to ask.

Andy J
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: dover par  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 19:41

Simple, doesn’t see his future at EEP, so why play him? Surely Better playing boys who are committed to the cause?

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 19:48

Quote:

AJ27, Thu 25 Feb 19:17

I’m with OzPar on this one - based purely on performances this season so far he’d walk into the team.

In common with other Season ticket holders I’ve paid a lot of money this season to watch the team on Pars TV - I think a simple explanation of why he’s not in the team is not too much to ask.


Well I wouldn't hold your breath. Like it or not, the manager is under no obligation to explain anything to your or me.

I just don't see what you see in Turner. There may well be a player in there but it's been visible in about 6 games in 18 months. I really liked him when he first appeared in the team but in my opinion he's inconsistent, seems physically lightweight and doesn't chip in with any goals. I'm not saying all our midfielders are any better but if there's something going on behind the scenes then he's always going to get dropped

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 20:01

Just saw Stevies interview, was asked about Comrie and the new centre half and their availability. Now I don’t think that Turner is a world beater but you would ask if he is available surely. Unless he has been asked not to?
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 20:07

Something has happened, for him not to make the squad for quite a few games without any mention of an injury means something is up. Crawford is asked about it on his interview today but his answer says absolutely nothing.

I`m not too fussed about it, there a lot of things to like about Kyle, but I`ve never felt he is a certain starter. Does he fit in a central midfielder in a 4-4-2, I am not that sure, can he play wide? Probably not. Is he is a number 10? Maybe, but he needs to deliver more goals and assists if that`s his best position. He`s still developing, I think he has shown some progression with us this season, I`d be happy for him to stay and hopefully kick on with us, but I wouldn`t describe him as being key to our chances this season or in the future.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 20:10

https://dafc.co.uk/story.php?t=Manager_on_Thursday&ID=12874

as for the fans should know or entitled to know etc, dont agree with that at all.



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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 21:17

Do you think maybe Crawford is dealing with a difficult situation and trying to get the best result without comprimising his authority. Maybe he doesn't want to exhaserbate the situation by making it public.

Is that too difficult for sweetie wifies to grasp?



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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 22:00

I am curious as to what exactly is wrong with Lewis Martin. Weeks ( months) ago we were told it was some vague calf problem moving down to his foot. He now doesn`t even get a mention when Crawford is giving an injury update.

What exactly is the problem and what is the prognosis?

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 02:36

Difficult to read between the lines of SC's comments. It does seem strange when Turner was playing well to be suddenly dropped. Maybe he isn't happy who knows. I always Kenny Dalglish being dropped from the Scotland squad when he was at the peak of his career. His response was, I need to try harder to get back into the team.

I hope to see Kyle back in the team soon. He has alot to gain as does the club.
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 03:18

We are second in the league ,Our management team have improved 10 folds ,let them manage the team.If acertain individual has been droped ,who is a key player then there is a reason
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 07:44

Player won’t do what’s in the best interests of the club, manager rightly so drops him, happened before with Robinson, it’s strong management.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 08:22

I don't think this is too complicated - there's competition for positions. The players getting picked will be the ones showing the right skills in training and a proper commitment to winning. Presumably Turner is not making the grade right now?

I would very much doubt it's just about him looking for a transfer. Why would he bothered about another 6 months with the Pars if someone can get him on a free in the summer?
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 08:27

Quote:

wetherby, Thu 25 Feb 22:00

I am curious as to what exactly is wrong with Lewis Martin. Weeks ( months) ago we were told it was some vague calf problem moving down to his foot. He now doesn`t even get a mention when Crawford is giving an injury update.

What exactly is the problem and what is the prognosis?


He's just another Eden Hazard.....☹

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56148185

At least we didn't she'll out loads of money on Lewis.



Not your average Sunday League player.
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 20:45

Make what you wish from these comments

I read that Turner ain’t got the best attitude just now

One notable absentee from Saturday’s squad was Kyle Turner, who has played in 18 of Dunfermline’s games this season but hasn’t featured since January’s stalemate with Ayr United.

Crawford said: “I don’t think it’s a case of just talking about Kyle missing out on the squad. We had players on the bench that we saw fit to come on and have an influence on the game to try and beat Alloa. That’s where we’re at; that’s how competitive this squad has become in a very short space of time.

“There are challenges out there. Players will not be happy when they’re not in the squad, players will not be happy when they’re not starting, but it’s probably why we’re up competing at the top end of the Championship.

“I want players that are hungry, I want players that want to try and get into the starting eleven, I want players that want to be on the bench so they can come on and play.”

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 22:08

Only my humble opinion but Turner fits all Stevie`s criteria

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 22:25

Maybe we talked up his abilities too much and he became a bit too big for his boots. I would like to see him back but with the right attitude.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 23:47

I am pleased that Stevie has come out and discussed the Turner situation. It was the right thing to do. Don`t forget that two months ago Turner received the SPFL Player of the Month award after some fine performances. To suddenly disappear from the scene needed some explanation for the baffled "sweetie wives" like myself.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 00:00

What does his explanation say that pleases you Oz?

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 00:17

Oh boy, you never let up, do you? Okay, his strong implication, at least as I read it, was that Turner had lost his desire as far as competing for a first team place.

Could be that we are seeing shades of the Chris McGroarty saga here. Remember him?

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 00:22

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OzPar, Sat 27 Feb 00:17

Oh boy, you never let up, do you? Okay, his strong implication, at least as I read it, was that Turner had lost his desire as far as competing for a first team place.

Could be that we are seeing shades of the Chris McGroarty saga here. Remember him?


Sorry for asking FFS.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 00:31

I too am sorry that you asked...

:)

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Alf  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 13:57

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OzPar, Sat 27 Feb 00:31

I too am sorry that you asked...

:)


Heard Turner doesn't want to sign a new contract,, so he's not being considered
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 14:18

On the bench

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 16:52

Was crying out for turner today, to drive and csrry forward!

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 17:03

The game was crying out for a effort on goal

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 18:05

he is getting better every week we dont win and he doesnt play.

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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 18:15

Quote:

cammypar 1995, Sat 27 Feb 17:03

The game was crying out for a effort on goal


Aye cos he rattles them in from 30 yards every week right enough

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Turner
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 19:04

Da no1

How’s that super striker mcmanus doing for you? Aye who cares if he scores goals he runs around a lot eh!

Murder, and somehow he’s getting worse every week!

Just sitting here drenched in my own negativity!
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