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 Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 09:34

An interesting read :-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56564356

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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 10:17

Surprised at their no1. Wouldn't have thought he would be ahead of some of the others.
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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: Bandy  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 10:19

Can`t really argue with Big Dunc at number 1 - have to bear in mind that the article is one of the ones that believes football started in 1992, so ignores some of the `proper` hard men from bygone eras - Souness, Hunter, Bremner etc. etc..

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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 10:43

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Bandy, Tue 30 Mar 10:19

Can`t really argue with Big Dunc at number 1 - have to bear in mind that the article is one of the ones that believes football started in 1992, so ignores some of the `proper` hard men from bygone eras - Souness, Hunter, Bremner etc. etc..


You missed out Roy Barry, Bandy. A proper hard man and a brilliant defender.

Coventry manager, Noel Cantwell, described him as "the bargain of the century."



Not your average Sunday League player.
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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 12:38

Being able to crunch someone when they aren’t expecting it doesn’t make you a hard man, it makes you a schytebag. Duncan Ferguson however, was the real deal. Fearless.

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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 13:31

There`s a difference between a true `hard man` and just a thug - some on that list are more thuggery

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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 14:47

Ferguson managed to acquire four criminal convictions - only one was on the field of play.

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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 15:43

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veteraneastender, Tue 30 Mar 14:47

Ferguson managed to acquire four criminal convictions - only one was on the field of play.


Was one not for booting the carp out a burglar in his house, or did he get off with that one.

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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 15:45

It was two I think and I don't believe he used excessive force relative to the threat so police were happy with him.

Although the guys got a sore jaw I don't think he continued to batter them once he was in control if the situation.
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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 17:22

Surprised no Razor Ruddock, Martin Keown or Mark Hughes on that list

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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 17:51

Trevor Hockey...mental!🦬🦬🦬
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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 18:39

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PARrot, Tue 30 Mar 15:43

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veteraneastender, Tue 30 Mar 14:47

Ferguson managed to acquire four criminal convictions - only one was on the field of play.


Was one not for booting the carp out a burglar in his house, or did he get off with that one.


Probably my favourite Ally McCoist one liner from QoS. When discussing the incident there was some surprise about how Ferguson had had the pace to catch the burglar when McCoist reminded them that the bloke was carrying a fridge at the time.
It tickled me....
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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 18:53


"Was one not for booting the carp out a burglar in his house, or did he get off with that one."

According to Wikipedia

"Ferguson has had four convictions for assault – two arising from taxi rank scuffles,[3] one an altercation with a fisherman in an Anstruther pub,[3] and one for his on-field headbutt on Raith Rovers defender John McStay in 1994 while playing for Rangers, which resulted in a rare conviction for an on-the-field incident.

The first incident led to a £100 fine for headbutting a policeman and a £25 fine for a Breach of the Peace,[47] while the second resulted in a £200 fine for punching and kicking a supporter on crutches. He was sentenced to a year`s probation for the third offence.[48] For the 1994 on-the-field headbutting, he received and served a three-month jail term for assault.[49] Ferguson`s troubles with the law and his imprisonment inspired Finnish composer Osmo Tapio Räihälä to write a symphonic poem as a "musical portrait" of Ferguson, titled Barlinnie Nine.[50]"

With that track record on the first three convictions, it`s hardly surprising he did porridge for the McStay incident.

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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 18:55

The twa Roys for me .... Barry and Aitken

Roy Barry who would put his head where most would not put their foot

Roy Aitken who did not just scare the opposition players in the tunnel before the game ... He scared his own players as well .... :)

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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 18:59

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General Zod, Tue 30 Mar 12:38

Being able to crunch someone when they aren’t expecting it doesn’t make you a hard man, it makes you a schytebag.



Agreed with this so much, bizarre that fans get misty eyed about players going in on exciting football players in a horrendous manner, it doesn't make you hard nor brave.
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 Re: Premier league Hard men
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 19:12

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Grant, Tue 30 Mar 18:59

Quote:

General Zod, Tue 30 Mar 12:38

Being able to crunch someone when they aren’t expecting it doesn’t make you a hard man, it makes you a schytebag.



Agreed with this so much, bizarre that fans get misty eyed about players going in on exciting football players in a horrendous manner, it doesn't make you hard nor brave.


A decent hard man is often at the heart of some of the most brilliant attacking teams. Patrick Viera was seen as a midfield enforcer from a young age, and Arsene Wenger would build his teams around tough tackling ball winners
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