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 Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 16:41

Should Stevie be given the final 6 matches to make the playoffs?? Or should he be removed immediately??

For me he has lost the dressing room and should leave immediately.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 16:52

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Bannockburn Par, Wed 31 Mar 16:41

Should Stevie be given the final 6 matches to make the playoffs?? Or should he be removed immediately??

For me he has lost the dressing room and should leave immediately.


100%agree. Absolute fiasco! 😢😢

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: AlterPar  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 17:04

Should this thread be deleted and you carded for this dross. Cast yer vote
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: DunfyDave  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 17:04

Vote "Stay"...

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 17:12

Are postal votes available ?

Who are the other candidates ?

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 17:33

Leave immediately

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: tappies par  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 17:40

For us to have any chance he would have to.........GO!

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 17:49

He will be given the chance to turn it around.




It's bloody tough being a legend
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 17:50

.......If I go there will be trouble.
And if I stay there will be double.

“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 18:00

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Raymie the Legend, Wed 31 Mar 17:49

He will be given the chance to turn it around.


You are probably right but I think he has only won 4 games out of 18 that’s most of the season plus failures in previous season. So not sure how much more time can be justified?
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 18:06

Go immediately and make sure Dan goes to

G.B
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 18:28

Quote:

Raymie the Legend, Wed 31 Mar 17:49

He will be given the chance to turn it around.


Agreed. His lack of management skills was there for all to see last night unfortunately. That is an issue that won't go away
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: ChiltonPar  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 18:37

I regret to say that SC has to go. Just no fight in the teams recent performances the Raith game was the last straw for me

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 18:39

Hopefully we don't have the same outcome from the remaining games as his first season
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: helensburghpar  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 18:48

Lost faith in him turning things round. Would like him to go as soon as possible. Don`t think anything will happen until the end of the season though.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: dafc  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 19:09

Stay

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 19:17

Its a definite stay for me ... Not many games left ... give him the chance to get us into the playoffs .... which many said early season was the objective ... Who knows we may still get there ... But if not I`m sure Stevie will do the honourable thing

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: GG4  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 19:19

Go for me.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 19:24

Even if we somehow make the playoffs, which is looking increasingly unlikely, Crawford is not the man to take us forward. He has to go at some point.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 19:27



Captions please.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 19:29

Our goalie needs to go as well in that case. He can’t save long range efforts and has cost us many points if not hope in a game.
How many heads went down when that third went in last night?
He’s a good talker off the pitch but needs to do it on it consistently.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: rossmcno1  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 19:33

Got to go.

Im really disappointed that we haven’t seen the board take action after that appalling embarrassment last night. Frankly he should have been asked to leave the club as soon as that game was finished. Dither and delay when we need them to act. AJ was kept on far too long and look at the damage that caused. The decay is apparent for all to see. Change is needed rapid. Even if just to get a result to stop us plummeting.

I’m so disappointed in him after listening at a forum at the start of his tenure about his beliefs and regard for the club, he spoke about how much the Raith result in the cup was hurtful. He led me to believe that night at the forum that should such an embarrassment occur again under his watch, he’d do the honourable thing and walk out. He’s a dead man walking in this current position, and our board are allowing this to carry on far too long. There are red lines for me, and yesterday was a heck of a red line that was crossed. Get him out now.



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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 19:38

Go. Sound out someone like Alan Irvine. Worth a shot I reckon.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 19:58

Will never vote,regarding someone's job,my humble opinion.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 21:40

Go- not a doubt about it

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 22:50

He has to go now or we will end up in a battle at the bottom end of the table. Arbroath beat Alloa on Friday and they are 5 points behind us and still to play us.

Lose to Hearts on Saturday badly and confidence will be rock bottom and then we go to Ayr having only won 1 away game all season.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 23:07

The board have tasked him with getting into the playoffs this season, that was the pre season goal. Whilst clearly more difficult now given the present run of form, it's still remains achievable on paper, so neither the manager or the board will make a decision at this time. We can all have our options about whether he's the right man for the longer term, however this has always been a results based business, so the next few weeks/months will ultimately make the decision. If the team manage to turn things around and find the form from earlier this season, although that feels unlikely right now, and we progress into the playoffs and beyond, it's suddenly a whole lot of different posts on here. If not, decisions will then need to be reached
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 23:12

I think the board weigh up the risks of us getting drawn into the relegation battle. If they think that’s possible and a risk of relegation then they need to assess what that means for the club.

I think if we lose to Hearts and Ayr that’s where we will be and I am not sure we will get out of it.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 23:33

Believe it or not, most bookmakers still have us as 3rd favourite to win the league at present, although the odds are very long obviously given Hearts. Bookies don't bet silly, so the odds of getting into the playoffs will clearly be lower than the odds of us getting relegated or playing a relegation playoff. Bookies are never poor people...
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Wed 31 Mar 23:36

Bookies had us as favourites last night...

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Thu 1 Apr 08:02

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cfad, Wed 31 Mar 23:07

The board have tasked him with getting into the playoffs this season, that was the pre season goal. Whilst clearly more difficult now given the present run of form, it's still remains achievable on paper, so neither the manager or the board will make a decision at this time. We can all have our options about whether he's the right man for the longer term, however this has always been a results based business, so the next few weeks/months will ultimately make the decision. If the team manage to turn things around and find the form from earlier this season, although that feels unlikely right now, and we progress into the playoffs and beyond, it's suddenly a whole lot of different posts on here. If not, decisions will then need to be reached


This.



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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Thu 1 Apr 08:19

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Wed 31 Mar 19:29

Our goalie needs to go as well in that case. He can’t save long range efforts and has cost us many points if not hope in a game.
How many heads went down when that third went in last night?
He’s a good talker off the pitch but needs to do it on it consistently.


I disagree, we started weak and got weaker.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 16:57

Bump

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Glenrothes Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 17:03

WE,ve already sounded out Levein and Robbo, they dont want the job ( not enough money ) Who would we get?

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 17:05

We going to get this every week?

Think it’s pretty obvious how the majority of us feel.

He’s here however until the end of the season. Four games to go, in our hands, three of them at home.

Despite how poor we’ve been you have to try pull a positive out of this and hopefully reinforced to the players for Tuesday.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 17:05

Doubtful if he would come but would take Ian McCall.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Stoo  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 17:07

Aye I reckon just drop this now.

We all agree he should go but its not going to happen before the end of the season so just relax about it.

Just got to get the last games of the season out of the way and start again....again.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 17:08

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summeragent, Sat 10 Apr 17:05

Doubtful if he would come but would take Ian McCall.


Doing a terrible job at Patrick Thistle.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 17:10

No Use debating it
SC will be here to the end of the season at least !
And Heaven forbid hopefully not beyond that , but the problem is who do you bring in ? I hear many names banded around but if these people were any better they would not be Managing a Championship side or out of work at present
And I do not wish to go down the route of someone getting the job just because he is doing well in a lower division !

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 17:13

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elvis_lives, Sat 10 Apr 17:08

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summeragent, Sat 10 Apr 17:05

Doubtful if he would come but would take Ian McCall.


Doing a terrible job at Patrick Thistle.


You think so? Third top with a game in hand. McCall has a good track record of improving teams and getting them promoted. I have no doubt Partick will come up a better team and challenge for promotion.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Glenrothes Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 17:16

I should have said he`s here till the end of the season
Sadly I dont think SC can cut it as a manager

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: storminNorman  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 18:04

the end is Nigh for him i would think.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 18:12


Topic Originator: Glenrothes Par like | nolike
Date: Sat 10 Apr 17:03

WE,ve already sounded out Levein and Robbo, they dont want the job ( not enough money ) Who would we get?

Levein would be a sideways step at best! He has no knowledge about attractive attacking football either. I wouldn’t want him near our club!

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: North Wales Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 18:35

He should have went weeks ago and have some come in till end of the season. He has no idea what his best team is and multiple changes every week. If we can’t have consistent 11 at this time off season that says it all. We will finish 5 100%
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 18:37

I think that we will finish 7th or 8th.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 18:44

He needs to go when the season is finished. It’s too late now. We won’t get a play-off and he should be swifty relieved of his duties the day after the Alloa game.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Gun Mech par  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 18:54

For me he needs to go. I keep reading that we have a good squad, but for me its the most unbalanced squad we have had for a while, far to many defenders(who aren't midfielders). Our midfield and our ability to control a game is non existent. The similarities between this season and last are there to see, looking at the stats and games to play, I think we will finish on the same points as last season. 37.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 18:55

Isn`t it funny how so many fans, who demand 100% commitment from the players, throw in the towel before the season`s ended?

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 19:02

I haven’t thrown in the towel - I actually still think we have a good chance of making the play offs - doesn’t take away from the fact that the standard of entertainment we have been treated to for most of the season has been appalling - and the fact that Crawford has been pleased with so many of these performances defies belief.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 19:04

As long as we can reach a playoff spot we have to back SC. The target was set at the start of the season & it’s still obtainable. All the run in games will be difficult there are no gimmes & we will have to scrap for everything.

That said the football on display is poor & a vast improvement will be required for next season.

Maybe it’s time to look to our investors for help & direction. I’d be surprised if the board aren’t thinking along the same lines.........

“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Gun Mech par  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 19:05

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wee eck, Sat 10 Apr 18:55

Isn`t it funny how so many fans, who demand 100% commitment from the players, throw in the towel before the season`s ended?


Define commitment Wee Eck, I'm fully committed to the pars always have been. I'm judging the management over 2 seasons and find his performances not up to scratch. When the management and players are gone, I will still be going along every season. I'm all for your positivity, but we need results and performances consistently. It isn't the fans fault this year.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 19:10

"We going to get this every week?"

of course.

"WE,ve already sounded out Levein and Robbo, they dont want the job ( not enough money ) Who would we get?"

Inverness give us permission to speak to Robertson did they?

"And Heaven forbid hopefully not beyond that , but the problem is who do you bring in ?"

it doesnt really matter who next head coach/manager is, most people will not agree with whoever it is and within a year will want him gone as well, pause and repeat and go round in circles.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Mon-pa  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 19:15

It has been a pretty dismal offering from the pars 2nd half of season. I am still in favor of him leading the pars. It may change if he gets the `backing of the board` which usually mean jotters time

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 19:38

If you read through this thread you will see he has already exceeded the expectations of some posters who thought he`d lost the dressing room. There were no posts after the Hearts game but here we go again. It`s pretty obvious the board are going to give him until the end of the season so what`s the point of resurrecting the thread?

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 19:49

Folk saying it is in our hands naw it's no. It is firmly in Crawford hands. He is the one selecting the team he is the one making some bizarre substitutions. Our players don't seem to know what else to do but lump it up the park.
There was a few snippets of what we could do. Well timed runs and passes, majority were rotten, misplaced or too weak too hard.

Really really hope he turns it around but I think he is under so much pressure right now he is making rash decisions and should go back to basics for Dundee game. Pick his best 11 and plan his subs bench and timing better. I really think he is over thinking this.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 20:14

Will be given until the end of the season to see if he can achieve his pre season goal set by the board, to get us into the playoffs and hopefully beyond. Following that a decision will be made. Will always be grateful for what Stevie done for us as a player, a legend in that regard, but management is a whole different thing. He has been a great servant for us, and not as poor as some past managers for sure (reflect back to Ian Munro, Jocky Scott, or Steven Kenny). I often get frustrated that Stevie refuses to criticise his team or some individuals at least in public, as sometimes the Fergie 'hairdryer treatment' is what is needed to get a reaction, but he's too nice a guy for that. Nice is not always a strength. Not many people have both played for and managed our club however, so however this ends up, I'll continue to hold him in high regard
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 20:31

Please tell me, when did we approach Levine and Robertson?

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 20:40

Did Fergie ever criticise players in public? I remember Yogi Hughes did when he was manager at the Rovers and that didn`t work out well.

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 20:42

Let’s be clear about this though it’s not just the board but now we have investors that will be puting there point in aswell.... forget about the nicely nicely.... as soon as you have investment into a company they will be trying to throw decisions in and it’s not an easy outcome!

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 20:49

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wee eck, Sat 10 Apr 20:40

Did Fergie ever criticise players in public? I remember Yogi Hughes did when he was manager at the Rovers and that didn`t work out well.


Maybe not, but my point is that Stevie appears to lack the steel needed at times. A good man manager needs to be able to adapt his style when the situation dictates. I can't ever remember him losing it on the sidelines, he's always calm and directive, but at times he needs a different approach

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 21:05

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cfad, Sat 10 Apr 20:49

Quote:

wee eck, Sat 10 Apr 20:40

Did Fergie ever criticise players in public? I remember Yogi Hughes did when he was manager at the Rovers and that didn`t work out well.


Maybe not, but my point is that Stevie appears to lack the steel needed at times. A good man manager needs to be able to adapt his style when the situation dictates. I can't ever remember him losing it on the sidelines, he's always calm and directive, but at times he needs a different approach

Post Edited (Sat 10 Apr 20:53)


Thing is that's an assumption and it is a case of you never know what goes on behind closed doors. Doesn't matter what his "public" image is. We don't know he is not going hell for leather at them in dressing room. Publicly he supports his players as all managers should.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 21:05

We should have sacked him weeks ago and now this hesitation will cost the club it’s chance at promotion and vital prize money.

I keep reading about giving him the chance, but it’s been clear for months he’s out of his depth. There’s no passion, no fight and now he’s brought in the hoof the ball mentality it’s definitely a case of Taxi for Crawford and friends.

Sacking him might not have saved us but there’s always a chance, just like when Leish saved us when we sacked Davie Hay in May! Now however, I fear it might be too late for even a master manager to save us (not that we could afford one)

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 22:16

Do we want another season of just petering out?
That's the question for me...can we dare to hope fore a season...of more hope to dare?

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 22:16

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ParfectXI, Sat 10 Apr 21:05

We should have sacked him weeks ago and now this hesitation will cost the club it’s chance at promotion and vital prize money.

I keep reading about giving him the chance, but it’s been clear for months he’s out of his depth. There’s no passion, no fight and now he’s brought in the hoof the ball mentality it’s definitely a case of Taxi for Crawford and friends.

Sacking him might not have saved us but there’s always a chance, just like when Leish saved us when we sacked Davie Hay in May! Now however, I fear it might be too late for even a master manager to save us (not that we could afford one)


Tbh, I think Dundee's keeper, Soapy Soutar, saved us more than Big Jim, Parfect. His first half display is the worst 45 mins I've ever seen from a visiting keeper in almost 60 years of watching the Pars. Dundee played the better football during that first half, creating and missing several good chances and went in 4-0 down. Apparently, Soutar was in tears during the interval and no wonder. We went on to win 5-0 and squeaked a narrow win at Tannadice which was enough to keep us up, despite a 4-0 gubbing at Rugby Park in our final game. Dundee, who had looked too good to go down, ended up bottom.

Did Soutar have much of a career after that game?



Not your average Sunday League player.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 10 Apr 22:27

I would imagine he will see the season out , regardless of the outcome i think our investors will have seen enough of Stevie and his assistant to know we are going nowhere under them .

G.B
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: North Wales Par  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 00:49

Rather than discussing if he should stay give me one person who could justifying a reason why he should stay.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 07:08

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GG Riva, Sat 10 Apr 22:16

Tbh, I think Dundee's keeper, Soapy Soutar, saved us more than Big Jim, Parfect. His first half display is the worst 45 mins I've ever seen from a visiting keeper in almost 60 years of watching the Pars. Dundee played the better football during that first half, creating and missing several good chances and went in 4-0 down. Apparently, Soutar was in tears during the interval and no wonder...


I'm just reading this thinking how nice it would be to have 4 shots on target in one half of football!

Jim certainly gave the team a huge boost.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 12:28

He should have been sacked after the disaster in Dundee. He certainly should have walked after the starks park massacre. A shockingly poor manager. It takes some Manager to take us out the playoffs from the position we were in . Absolutely scunnered with him .

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Alan  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 14:31

If crowds had been at the games Crawford would have been sacked months ago. He was a great player for the club and I would hate to see it, but he would have taken dogs abuse for these performances and the board would have been forced to act. Crawford should be out the door after the final game against Alloa and even sooner if a top 4 place is not achievable before that. Yesterday`s game was yet another shocking performance. A goal ahead early against a very poor, makeshift Ayr team, and we sat back, in true Pars fashion, showing no urgency and created nothing, hoping to hold on for a 1-0 win in a game that looked like a typical end of season match with nothing to play for. Having supported the Pars for over 50 years I have witnessed lots of bad times at the club over the years, but can`t remember feeling so dispirited as I do now, after watching the team under Crawford over the past couple of years.

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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 15:22

I appreciate the disappointment of the recent run of form. The fact is that no matter who you bring in now it will not make any difference. His objective is the playoffs we are still in the mix. I will support SC and the management team in achieving that objective. The hard work and effort that has clearly gone on behind the scenes should not be dismissed in my view so they deserve support at this stage in the competition. The management can only do so much. The players need to shoulder some of the responsibity too.
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Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 15:51

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Indiapar, Sun 11 Apr 15:22

I appreciate the disappointment of the recent run of form. The fact is that no matter who you bring in now it will not make any difference. His objective is the playoffs we are still in the mix. I will support SC and the management team in achieving that objective. The hard work and effort that has clearly gone on behind the scenes should not be dismissed in my view so they deserve support at this stage in the competition. The management can only do so much. The players need to shoulder some of the responsibity too.


I understand what your saying BUT i disagree with your comment that "The fact is that no matter who you bring in now it will not make any difference"
IF we could bring someone in then it would possibly make a difference (financially doubtful we could afford anyone). Whoever would be in charge could make significant improvements with players, morale and could be much more tactically astute. Therefore getting best out of players for last few games.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 16:03

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GG Riva, Sat 10 Apr 22:16

Tbh, I think Dundee's keeper, Soapy Soutar, saved us more than Big Jim, Parfect. His first half display is the worst 45 mins I've ever seen from a visiting keeper in almost 60 years of watching the Pars. Dundee played the better football during that first half, creating and missing several good chances and went in 4-0 down. Apparently, Soutar was in tears during the interval and no wonder...


I'm just reading this thinking how nice it would be to have 4 shots on target in one half of football!

Jim certainly gave the team a huge boost.


Big Jim Jeffreys took pity on us in the final game, we were terrible!
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 16:03

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Polt, Sun 11 Apr 15:51

I understand what your saying BUT i disagree with your comment that "The fact is that no matter who you bring in now it will not make any difference"
IF we could bring someone in then it would possibly make a difference (financially doubtful we could afford anyone). Whoever would be in charge could make significant improvements with players, morale and could be much more tactically astute. Therefore getting best out of players for last few games.


How exactly do you think a new manager coming in now (assuming one was available and willing to come in at short notice) would make significant improvements to the squad's morale? Having been on such a poor run of form, confidence among the players must be quite low.

Short of a magic wand.....

Eta. Would any manager come in for just 4 games? He'd surely want at least a year's contract. Somebody suggested Leishman further up but, by his own admission, he was no tactical genius.



Not your average Sunday League player.


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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 16:05

How do we know moral is low? Has anyone asked the players how they feel?
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Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 16:21

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GG Riva, Sun 11 Apr 16:03

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Polt, Sun 11 Apr 15:51

I understand what your saying BUT i disagree with your comment that "The fact is that no matter who you bring in now it will not make any difference"
IF we could bring someone in then it would possibly make a difference (financially doubtful we could afford anyone). Whoever would be in charge could make significant improvements with players, morale and could be much more tactically astute. Therefore getting best out of players for last few games.


How exactly do you think a new manager coming in now (assuming one was available and willing to come in at short notice) would make significant improvements to the squad's morale? Having been on such a poor run of form, confidence among the players must be quite low.

Short of a magic wand.....


My reply is in response to the "fact" it would be pointless. Sometimes it is but others such as Big Jim saving us from relegation season 2004/05 in 3 remaining games.
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Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 16:59

Get him punted. Even if we do make the top 4, which is looking less and less likely, there's no danger we're getting promoted.

The football (and I use the term loosely) on display is absolutely brutal. We've been honking for months because Crawford doesn't have a clue how to get a team playing well.

Absolutely mental that there's folk on here still defending him and even wanting him to still be manager for next season. It's the same clowns you expect it from right enough.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 18:09

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Kessel, Sun 11 Apr 16:59

Get him punted. Even if we do make the top 4, which is looking less and less likely, there's no danger we're getting promoted.

The football (and I use the term loosely) on display is absolutely brutal. We've been honking for months because Crawford doesn't have a clue how to get a team playing well.

Absolutely mental that there's folk on here still defending him and even wanting him to still be manager for next season. It's the same clowns you expect it from right enough.


Who are these "same clowns" you're alluding to? Name names - put up or shut up!



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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 20:09

I don't think anyone is defending anyone. Its a matter of supporting the club up to the last game of the season to achieve the aims set out at the beginning.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sun 11 Apr 21:24

My View is that we are all hurting due to the performances we have witnessed week in week out ! then we hear players interviews saying the play offs is their aim , yet Everytime when we get the chance to put some daylight between us and others around us we always underperform and lose the chance !
We all think we should be doing better and probably we should be doing much better , So I also blame the players on the park as well as SC as their is no excuse for a professional player not to put the effort in even if they are playing badly or out of position this is where a real captain makes the difference he will sort it out on the park , but we have 4 games left so let us see where it takes us !
as long as it is mathematically possible to reach the top 4 the players and staff have my support ! Next season is a different ball game , I couldn`t put up with the same crap we are getting served up just now , if SC is still in charge I will have to consider if I will be at EEP or watch on tv as I have better things to do than hope every Saturday this is the week when we turn things around been a supporter for over 50 years but I am now getting to the stage where I have had enough as I do not see any improvement in the time he has been in charge
And this is his Team now so no excuses on that front
I have tried to be as positive as I can but I have seen nothing to get excited or positive about since November apart from a couple of games

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 12 Apr 07:56

Excellent post, Wullie, in which you eloquently express the pain, anger, frustration and disappointment which so many Pars fans feel at recent results and performances, after such a promising start. You rightly point out that it's not all down to the manager. Success - or lack of it - is a team effort, when results and performances are good, players and coaching team get the credit, when they're poor, they must share the blame.

I don't really see the need for this thread, tbh. It's fairly obvious that the vast majority of fans will be very unhappy at this moment, as we're outside the play offs and they will vent their frustration on the manager. If we were to get into the play offs now, some fans would then cut him some slack and if we were to be promoted (however unlikely that looks today) there would be fans on here suggesting they never had any doubts about the manager all along. 🙂

What I resent most on here is the assertion by a small number of posters that those of us who are not calling for Crawford to be sacked are "clowns" or "happy clappers." Like you, I don't think there's any point in removing the manager with just 4 games to play. The time for the club to make any decision about his future is at the end of the season. I have every confidence in the BoD to make a decision in the best interests of the club.



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Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Mon 12 Apr 13:46

For the first time in a while I`m seriously tempted to find something more useful to do on matchdays. The standard of football served up on the park has been so poor that it inspires no great excitement. The early two goal lead at Dundee, for a brief moment, tricked us into thinking a corner had been turned but it was no surprise when the bubble was soon burst and we returned to type, taking on our normal self doubting and self destructive personna and ending up trudging off the park with nil pointe.

We have completely lost confidence and resorted to safety first, long ball football which doesn`t suit our forwards who don`t have the skills to win the ball in the air, hold it up or lay it off.

The circumstances, with no crowds haven`t helped but neither has our financial situation, where we seem only able to afford short term contracts and loan signings. When players feel that they are marking time, hoping for a recall from their parent club or have one eye on their next move they are not likely to have lasting loyalty or bust a gut for the club.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 12 Apr 13:54

Not sure if you`re right about short-term contracts, Paralex. O`Hara was signed on a 3-year deal wasn`t he and aren`t Wighton and OFW and maybe some others on 2-year deals?

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Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Mon 12 Apr 14:04

My impression, wee eck, is that at least half the team that took the field against Ayr are either loan players or on a one year contract. The fact that our failure to resign some of our early season good performers for next season gives some reflection of the general attitude.

But heyho, I`m just as fickle as the average Pars fan. Get on a winning streak again and maybe I`ll be persuaded to revive my enthusiasm.

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Topic Originator: GG4  
Date:   Mon 12 Apr 14:22

First team players out of contract this summer - E.Murray, J.Edwards, L.Martin, S.Whittaker & C.Gill.

First team players out of contact 2022 - R.Dow, D.Thomas, OFW, I.Wilson, D.McManus & P.Watson.

First team players out of contract 2023 - K.O`hara, A.Comrie, V.Gaspuitis & K.MacDonald.

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Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Mon 12 Apr 15:05

hope they get Edwards signed up longer term, he has been Mr Consistent this season along with Comrie.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 12 Apr 15:14

Get the 2 fullbacks signed up, maybe they have improved due to a coach that played the same position?
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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Mon 12 Apr 15:52

I think its a toughjob for anyone managing a club in the championship with a fine line between promotion playoffs and relegation playoffs. I agree with the comment about loan players and short term contracts. You cant build longer term like that. Its a wider issue than just management and players who afterall can only operate within the system that exists.
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Topic Originator: we won the cup in 68  
Date:   Tue 13 Apr 20:45

His first season in charge we lost 7 of the last 8 drawing one, last season we lost 6 of the last 9 before the season finished albeit we won 3 of those. His record is honking and he is not capable of taking us forward. He needs to go.

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Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Tue 13 Apr 20:49

we won the cup in 68 wrote:

> His first season in charge we lost 7 of the last 8 drawing one,
> last season we lost 6 of the last 9 before the season finished
> albeit we won 3 of those. His record is honking and he is not
> capable of taking us forward. He needs to go.
>
>


Exactly, he’s turning us into East Fife, at least he had the decency to resign there

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 00:14

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wetherby, Mon 12 Apr 15:05

hope they get Edwards signed up longer term, he has been Mr Consistent this season along with Comrie.


Agree
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 00:35

I'd be absolutely astonished if he was our manager next season

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 07:45

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da_no_1, Wed 14 Apr 00:35

I'd be absolutely astonished if he was our manager next season


I don't know, some if us were astonished he got the gig in the first place.

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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 07:50

Apparently he is late most days for training. Shields and Whittaker take the training sessions whilst Crawford watches on with his usual lifeless dugout pose. He never stops sessions to offer feedback or an opinion.

Time is up for Crawford, last night was another abysmal performance. He has not improved Dunfermline during his time as manager. I hope the German investors take charge of this and get a new manager in place before the start of next season.

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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 07:53

Agree with Rastapar , he should never have got the job and what Dairs qualifications made him an assistant astounds me

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 07:56

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Rastapari, Wed 14 Apr 07:45

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da_no_1, Wed 14 Apr 00:35

I'd be absolutely astonished if he was our manager next season


I don't know, some if us were astonished he got the gig in the first place.


Ah the usual "I was right all along" line. Congratulations you must be very proud.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 08:23

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GG Riva, Sun 11 Apr 18:09

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Kessel, Sun 11 Apr 16:59

Get him punted. Even if we do make the top 4, which is looking less and less likely, there's no danger we're getting promoted.

The football (and I use the term loosely) on display is absolutely brutal. We've been honking for months because Crawford doesn't have a clue how to get a team playing well.

Absolutely mental that there's folk on here still defending him and even wanting him to still be manager for next season. It's the same clowns you expect it from right enough.


Who are these "same clowns" you're alluding to? Name names - put up or shut up!


You know who the clowns are considering you were right in there replying to the post. You're extremely clever, after all you were a school teacher 👍🏽

Oh and after last night's diabolical display it's still the same clowns telling us everything on display at EEP is fine. Got to keep in with the board so that once the pandemic is over they can feel important by strolling around EEP with a lanyard around their neck. Hopefully the German's put an end to that p*sh.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 08:49

Kessel you must be reading a different forum. I`ve read posts with fans being resigned to the fact Crawford is here til the end of the season however not one poster has said that "everything on display at EEP is fine". Not a single one. So if you want to be taken seriously, please stop making stuff up.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 09:28

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da_no_1, Wed 14 Apr 07:56

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Rastapari, Wed 14 Apr 07:45

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da_no_1, Wed 14 Apr 00:35

I'd be absolutely astonished if he was our manager next season


I don't know, some if us were astonished he got the gig in the first place.


Ah the usual "I was right all along" line. Congratulations you must be very proud.


Some of us were right, get over yourself maybe?

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 09:43

Where were you when we were top of the league chap? You weren`t "right" then?

Must be great being you.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 11:09

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da_no_1, Wed 14 Apr 09:43

Where were you when we were top of the league chap? You weren`t "right" then?

Must be great being you.


I was plenty offering congratulations on good results, stop making things up, yeah?

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 11:17

Rasta - you seem a reasonably intelligent guy & you know exactly what I`m trying to say. The same people that decry positive people as "happy clappers" for just trying to look on the bright side on this forum always, ALWAYS, appear & populate this forum with "I told you so" sh1te the minute things go Pete Tong. You didn`t give the guy a chance from minute one & you weren`t alone in slagging off other posters willing to let the guy bed in & put his own imprint on the team. If (when) he gets punted are you & the others going to give the new guy a chance or will it just be the same?

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 11:55

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da_no_1, Wed 14 Apr 11:17

Rasta - you seem a reasonably intelligent guy & you know exactly what I`m trying to say. The same people that decry positive people as "happy clappers" for just trying to look on the bright side on this forum always, ALWAYS, appear & populate this forum with "I told you so" sh1te the minute things go Pete Tong. You didn`t give the guy a chance from minute one & you weren`t alone in slagging off other posters willing to let the guy bed in & put his own imprint on the team. If (when) he gets punted are you & the others going to give the new guy a chance or will it just be the same?


He's the ionly appointment in recent years I've been like that with because you know what, I've never heard anything other than drab uninspiring drivel come from him, through an ex I had to sit through a meal and it was excruciating.
I also didn't agree with a coach in a failing regime getting the job, I wasn't the only one.
Dress it up any way you want but has it not turned out the way I feared?
I don't know what you are trying to project on me but like it or not some saw this coming, it's been drab and crap with no bite or character to be seen, same old boring cliches in the interviews.

But yeah, you go back and find all my berating of every single management appointment to back up your assertion I would moan about every or any appointment, you're wrong, of course you never accept it and I await your dry, sarcastic response with apathy.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 12:44

Who would you have as the next manager then? Let`s hear something positive for a change!

Or will you just wait until the new guy takes the reigns, say "meh" repeatedly then hide until we lose a few games again?

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 12:49

It's easy to be critical without offering an alternative.

I think the majority think Crawford should go, but who replaces him? Is it just Crawford or is it the whole coaching team? Have the investors intervened at St Pauli in terms of appointing a manager? Do they have someone we could speak to?
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 12:49

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da_no_1, Wed 14 Apr 12:44

Who would you have as the next manager then? Let`s hear something positive for a change!

Or will you just wait until the new guy takes the reigns, say "meh" repeatedly then hide until we lose a few games again?


Crawford is literally the first appointment I've said "meh" about, your having mare here.
And I commented on every goid result, go see.
Again, mare son.

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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 12:50

Stevie will be there until the end if the season, perhaps longer. It is obvious that our squad need a boost. Perhaps we could get two of our previous managers Bert and Jim to go into the dressing room and build up the confidence of our team. Because of their ages they will both have had their 2 covid vaccine injections.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 13:01

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Rastapari, Wed 14 Apr 12:49

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da_no_1, Wed 14 Apr 12:44

Who would you have as the next manager then? Let`s hear something positive for a change!

Or will you just wait until the new guy takes the reigns, say "meh" repeatedly then hide until we lose a few games again?


Crawford is literally the first appointment I've said "meh" about, your having mare here.
And I commented on every goid result, go see.
Again, mare son.


Not that I ever did, but calling me "son" and saying I'm having a "mare" ensures I'll never take anything seriously. You're like a cartoon .

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 13:01

Isn`t the word `meh` a bit...`meh`? What`s this thing nowadays about inventing new words to replace perfectly acceptable words that already exist?

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 14:39

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da_no_1, Wed 14 Apr 13:01

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Rastapari, Wed 14 Apr 12:49

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da_no_1, Wed 14 Apr 12:44

Who would you have as the next manager then? Let`s hear something positive for a change!

Or will you just wait until the new guy takes the reigns, say "meh" repeatedly then hide until we lose a few games again?


Crawford is literally the first appointment I've said "meh" about, your having mare here.
And I commented on every goid result, go see.
Again, mare son.


Not that I ever did, but calling me "son" and saying I'm having a "mare" ensures I'll never take anything seriously. You're like a cartoon .


And you literally cannot cope with being wrong so continue with a lie....you're quite pathetic for all the smarminess you project, I'll leave you to it.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 15:01

Again, wrong. I`ve frequently admitted being wrong on this forum & apologised on numerous occasions. Nice try though.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: GG4  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 15:08

Ffs give it a rest da no 1.

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 15:25

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Kessel, Sun 11 Apr 16:59

Get him punted. Even if we do make the top 4, which is looking less and less likely, there's no danger we're getting promoted.

The football (and I use the term loosely) on display is absolutely brutal. We've been honking for months because Crawford doesn't have a clue how to get a team playing well.

Absolutely mental that there's folk on here still defending him and even wanting him to still be manager for next season. It's the same clowns you expect it from right enough.


Who are these "same clowns" you're alluding to? Name names - put up or shut up!


You know who the clowns are considering you were right in there replying to the post. You're extremely clever, after all you were a school teacher 👍🏽

Oh and after last night's diabolical display it's still the same clowns telling us everything on display at EEP is fine. Got to keep in with the board so that once the pandemic is over they can feel important by strolling around EEP with a lanyard around their neck. Hopefully the German's put an end to that p*sh.
.

Oh dear, you've failed to name a single "clown", but you think I'm extremely clever. I'm sorry to disappoint you but I don't have such a high opinion of myself. Some school teachers like me are bang average. It's a shame that you felt the need to have a wee dig at match day volunteers, suggesting we do it so we "can feel important." We do it because we love the Pars and it saves the club some money. The lanyard is something the club insist on, but you probably knew that. If the German investors want to come in and pay folk to do it, I'm out. My pension is adequate and I'd rather the money went to someone who needs it.

I don't expect you'll reply to this post, but you never know.



Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 15:27

Yeah, fair enough. That`s plenty...…….

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 16:00

Kessel, GG and I occasionally butt heads but it's honest.
I personally think you've got him all wrong, he certainly doesn't swan about felling important....and on that note, you think we'd have a club without volunteers?
If you do, I think you'd be very wrong.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 17:06

We can still make the playoffs I will reserve judgement until the end of the season.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 17:33

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Indiapar, Wed 14 Apr 17:06

We can still make the playoffs I will reserve judgement until the end of the season.


This!

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 17:47

Last 3 games this is my thoughts:

QOS another bore draw
Arbroath we lose
Alloa we win

Finish on 37 points behind ICT. If our playoff hopes are gone after the Arbroath game I think SC will resign.

I hope I am wrong and we make it to the playoffs but can’t see it after such uninspiring performances.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 18:06

I think we'll take a minimum of 5 points (quite possibly more) from our last 3 and as ICT have Dundee, Hearts and Ayr in their last 3 games we might scrape through with that.

All 3 are of the more winnable variety and if we miss the playoffs I'm fairly sure SC will be gone. If we make the playoffs and perform badly he might be gone and of we make the playoffs and go up then he'll more than likely be here next year. We'll just need to see how it pans out and hope for the best.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: Parsweep  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 18:25

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londonparsfan, Wed 14 Apr 18:06

I think we'll take a minimum of 5 points (quite possibly more) from our last 3 and as ICT have Dundee, Hearts and Ayr in their last 3 games we might scrape through with that.

All 3 are of the more winnable variety and if we miss the playoffs I'm fairly sure SC will be gone. If we make the playoffs and perform badly he might be gone and of we make the playoffs and go up then he'll more than likely be here next year. We'll just need to see how it pans out and hope for the best.


Not sure how anyone can really think we'll get a minimum of 5 points from those 3 games , when we've only taken 3 points from our last 6 games .

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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 18:30

Against far better teams.
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 Re: Crawford stay or go vote
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 14 Apr 18:37

"Kessel you must be reading a different forum. I`ve read posts with fans being resigned to the fact Crawford is here til the end of the season however not one poster has said that "everything on display at EEP is fine". Not a single one. So if you want to be taken seriously, please stop making stuff up."

Well said, da. no. 1. It`s amazing the spin some posters put on things. I went right through this thread to see how many "clowns" I could find who were clapping happily at recent results and performances and guess what? Zilch.

"Kessel, GG and I occasionally butt heads but it`s honest.
I personally think you`ve got him all wrong, he certainly doesn`t swan about felling important....and on that note, you think we`d have a club without volunteers?
If you do, I think you`d be very wrong.``

Cheers, Rasta. Ma heid`s still sair from aw these butts..... 😀
I don`t think Kessel is a former pupil of mine, otherwise he wouldn`t have me down as a clever clogs who likes swanning about feeling important.



Not your average Sunday League player.
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