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 New Manager
Topic Originator: incognito  
Date:   Mon 3 May 17:05

Who would you like to see replace Stevie Crawford next season?

Me personally anyone but Crawford.

Please discuss.

"Did you see what happened to the magic car?

It turned into a street!"
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Parsweep  
Date:   Mon 3 May 17:16

Don't know if he'd be interested , but I still think Ian McCall might do a job for us .

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: md.14-Pars  
Date:   Mon 3 May 17:20

This is a really ill timed post. Crawford has us in the play offs(was that not our target?) and still has an opportunity to get us promoted!

Yeah the football hasn’t been great at times but I think he’s improved us year on year and his recruitment has been positive. I do feel his tactics, substitutions and motivational skills are questionable at times but he’s a young manager that’s still learning.

Maybe someone more experienced in the back room staff rather than a new manager?

I'm in a vest

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: incognito  
Date:   Mon 3 May 17:26

I love Crawford as a player and I agree his recruitment has been really good! I`d definitely keep him involved with that side of things I just don`t think he has the knowhow/experience to get us up so I feel an experienced manager would be beneficial at this point in our club "rebuild process".I`m an optimist and I hope we win the play offs but it`s a big ask and I feel either way we should look to strengthen on and off the park.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Mon 3 May 17:31

Think this should be discussed after all play offs, we are involved in.Think it's only fair on stevie,just good manners, or am I old fashioned ?
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: incognito  
Date:   Mon 3 May 17:35

I was only looking for other fans opinions on the position of our manager regardless of promotion would people still want Crawford in charge or would they want Someone else?

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It turned into a street!"
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Mon 3 May 17:41

If we could replace some of our fans that would be super 👍🏼


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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Mon 3 May 17:47

“Me personally anyone but Crawford.

Please discuss.”


........will you stand by that statement if we win the next 6 games?

“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Mon 3 May 17:58

What a crap time for a thread like this.
Wait until after the playoffs.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Mon 3 May 18:20

I don’t mean to come across rude but I’d suggest this is discussed after the playoffs..

*feeling a sense of de ja vu here.

Biggest game of the season is tomorrow night and this has all been discussed at length over previous weeks.
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Mon 3 May 18:34

Let’s see how the play offs go... whoever said Ian Mcall😩

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: dave67  
Date:   Mon 3 May 18:35

And you wonder why your last thread disappeared

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Mon 3 May 18:36

He will get us promoted through the playoffs and lead us into the Premiership next season. This season has been done on a tight budget, I'd like to see what Crawford can do if he gets a few more experienced players in. Someone like Jimmy Nicholl helping out wouldn't go amiss either
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Mon 3 May 19:22

Pretty pointless post till we are finished the season, also you will never get a fair percentage of the support to agree on one candidate.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Mon 3 May 19:32

"This is a really ill timed post."

That, in spades.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Mon 3 May 19:52

John McGlynn.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Mon 3 May 20:02

disgraceful post at this time.
deserves a black card if you ask my opinion

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 3 May 20:16

Are you a Raith Rovers fan incognito ?

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Mon 3 May 21:21

Sometimes I think some on this forum loiks forward to the team or management failing .
What a stupid question prior to heading into the play offs .
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard  
Date:   Mon 3 May 21:23

Quote:

brian, Mon 3 May 20:02

disgraceful post at this time.
deserves a black card if you ask my opinion


Steady min !
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 3 May 21:52

Wrong time for this sort of post. Can admin remove?

Crawford has a knack of getting things right when things look miserable. Whilst some tactics have been questionable at times, his recruitment has been good.

Now is not the time to discuss managers and some of the suggestions have been laughable.
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Mon 3 May 21:55

Quote:

P, Mon 3 May 17:41

If we could replace some of our fans that would be super 👍🏼

^^^^^
This

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Mon 3 May 21:56

I thought this was removed. Should be removed.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Mon 3 May 21:57

Quote:

brian, Mon 3 May 20:02

disgraceful post at this time.
deserves a black card if you ask my opinion


Red at least

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Mon 3 May 22:02

The thread was removed and incognito simply created a new one.

This week we’re not wanting any negativity, this is the crux of our season right here need to back the lads and Stevie.
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Lenstar  
Date:   Tue 4 May 09:12


There was me thinking that complete and utter Bell Neds were in short supply, what a post indeed........

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Tue 4 May 11:31

If I was employed and was sacked for achieving my targets I would be pretty pissed!

If I sacked any of my staff for achieving their targets again it prob would not be the last I would hear of it, it certainly would not set a very good tone for any manger coming in.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Tue 4 May 12:09

Can I just ask, was incognito red carded for asking who should replace SC next season on the basis that an admin didn’t like the timing of the question?
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 4 May 12:27

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DBP, Tue 4 May 12:09

Can I just ask, was incognito red carded for asking who should replace SC next season on the basis that an admin didn’t like the timing of the question?


I think if you read through the posts on this thread, you'll get the answer to your question, DBP. Remember he started a very similar one which was deleted yesterday. He even supplied a list of candidates the Pars might bring in to replace Stevie Crawford, including Neil Lennon, Craig Levein and Robbie Neilson.



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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 4 May 12:29

Car crash post. Cant believe its still up.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 4 May 12:30

,,,and Derek McInnes!

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 4 May 12:41

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DBP, Tue 4 May 12:09

Can I just ask, was incognito red carded for asking who should replace SC next season on the basis that an admin didn’t like the timing of the question?


Would you have a problem with that?
Admin are there to remove inappropriate posts, amongst other things.
I think the card was for reposting it after it was deleted. Well deserved.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard  
Date:   Tue 4 May 12:59

Quote:

PARrot, Tue 4 May 12:41

Quote:

DBP, Tue 4 May 12:09

Can I just ask, was incognito red carded for asking who should replace SC next season on the basis that an admin didn’t like the timing of the question?


Would you have a problem with that?
Admin are there to remove inappropriate posts, amongst other things.
I think the card was for reposting it after it was deleted. Well deserved.


Parrot, if admin had provided an explanation for deleting the original post, perhaps Incognito wouldn't have reposted ?

Not too much to ask for is it ?
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 4 May 14:06

Quote:

MikeyLeonard, Tue 4 May 12:59

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PARrot, Tue 4 May 12:41

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DBP, Tue 4 May 12:09

Can I just ask, was incognito red carded for asking who should replace SC next season on the basis that an admin didn’t like the timing of the question?


Would you have a problem with that?
Admin are there to remove inappropriate posts, amongst other things.
I think the card was for reposting it after it was deleted. Well deserved.


Parrot, if admin had provided an explanation for deleting the original post, perhaps Incognito wouldn't have reposted ?

Not too much to ask for is it ?



Nope. He did it deliberately knowing full well why it was deleted.
No excuses.

I'm pretty sure they did explain anyway.

Nothing against him personally but ye jist canny dae that.



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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Tue 4 May 14:45

Quote:

DBP, Tue 4 May 12:09

Can I just ask, was incognito red carded for asking who should replace SC next season on the basis that an admin didn’t like the timing of the question?


Would you have a problem with that?
Admin are there to remove inappropriate posts, amongst other things.
I think the card was for reposting it after it was deleted. Well deserved.


i suppose i do parrot.

firstly i`m grateful that we have admin who keep the site free from posts that i believe we all agree should be removed, e.g. libellous/slanderous posts, threatening posts against an individual or posts that are clearly promote racist/homophobic views or even incite violence against other individuals or groups

however, there`s a noticeable trend recently whereby admin will remove posts if they themselves don`t like the conversation and/or they themselves deem the post inappropriate.
we`re all different and all have different takes/opinions on pretty much every subject and for this to be a healthy place for debate, you have to allow conversations to take place that you yourself may not be overly comfortable with

we also all have to allow ourselves to be challenged and accept the fact that just because we say something or feel a certain way, that doesn`t make it so

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Tue 4 May 14:48

Think the reason for it being removed did not merit an explanation, was pretty obvious tbh
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Tue 4 May 15:00

in your opinion parfect - but then you`re free to express that and if nobody want`s to discuss and the great majority share that same view then we`ve reached a natural consensus and the post will slip down the order into obscurity

but what if someone who has the ability to remove posts doestn` agree with your next, parfectly valid post? (see what i did there)

does a boris loving admin get remove anything negative about the current pm on the politics forum because it`s the wrong time to be discussing it while he`s in office? does a vegetarian get to remove a post on how to cook beef because it`s disgusting slaughtering an animal so you can have it`s flesh on your fork? does someone who things OFW is the best thing since slice bread get to remove any negative posts because it could undermine his performances between the sticks?

or are we open to allow ourselves to have these debates instead of shutting them down because we may not like them?

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 4 May 15:04

I don`t agree with the post but there`s no way it should`ve been deleted. Doesn`t sit well with me at all.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Tue 4 May 15:09

To be honest I don’t think there was any malicious intent when the initial thread was originated, just don’t think there was any thought about the timing of it, so close to our defining games of the season, last thing we want is squabbling.

Can understand why Admin would remove under the circumstances, maybe message could’ve been better but it was pretty self explanatory. The reaction though was OTT and to start an immediate new thread was just poking the bear with a stick.

All in all don’t think a red card was warranted but let’s face it the Crawford out, who’s in topic has had multiple threads in the past, to bring it up again at this time was just unnecessary, if anything could have just tagged onto an existing already open thread.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Tue 4 May 15:51

I don`t think the poster deserved a red card. He`s entitled to his opinion and from what I could see, the posts were not abusive in any way.
Perhaps I`ve missed some posts, though?



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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Tue 4 May 15:59

SC has achieved the target set. The club is also working off the park to put in place purposeful systems for the long term development of the club. These are all important factors to consider when assessing the sucess of both the club and individuals this season.

Good luck to the management and players for tge game today. You have my support
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Tue 4 May 16:00

Yet the Crawford stay or go post is still up ?

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Tue 4 May 16:03

For me the timing of the post was inappropriate which is why I have ignored it up to this point - however, unless I’ve completely missed something then a red card for this is censorship gone mad - even more inappropriate than the actual thread itself.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Tue 4 May 16:13

Quote:

AJ27, Tue 04 May 16:03

For me the timing of the post was inappropriate which is why I have ignored it up to this point - however, unless I’ve completely missed something then a red card for this is censorship gone mad - even more inappropriate than the actual thread itself.


Agree with this
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Tue 4 May 17:01

Quote:

AJ27, Tue 04 May 16:03

For me the timing of the post was inappropriate which is why I have ignored it up to this point - however, unless I’ve completely missed something then a red card for this is censorship gone mad - even more inappropriate than the actual thread itself


Totally agree

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 4 May 17:40

I dont think the red was for the post. It was for the repost. Kinda strange that its still there if that's the case though.

It was very poorly timed and merited removal.
Not a case of agreeing wirh a particular point of view and ruling the roost.

Like someone said though, a wee explanation at the point of deletion would have been helpful.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Tue 4 May 18:19

I don’t see why it should be removed because someone doesn’t like the timing.

We’re anywhere from 4 days to 4 weeks away from the season finishing, so incognito could easily argue that’s a reasonable time to consider the clubs options for next season?

Either way, who gets to decide what date is appropriate? You? me? Whoever is sitting in the admin chair that day?
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard  
Date:   Tue 4 May 18:46

Quote:

Raymie the Legend, Tue 4 May 15:51

I don`t think the poster deserved a red card. He`s entitled to his opinion and from what I could see, the posts were not abusive in any way.
Perhaps I`ve missed some posts, though?



Absolutely Raymie. . .at least it wasn't the black card that Brian wanted to give him.
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Tue 4 May 23:03

The guy is obviously a pr*k , not only in one thread ,but in two on the same subject.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Wed 5 May 02:29

Quote:

saltonsgonagetu, Tue 04 May 23:03

The guy is obviously a pr*k , not only in one thread ,but in two on the same subject.


That’s not the question though is it?
Should he deserve a black card for a non abusive post on a fans forum?

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Parsweep  
Date:   Wed 5 May 07:24

Quote:

saltonsgonagetu, Tue 4 May 23:03

The guy is obviously a pr*k , not only in one thread ,but in two on the same subject.


Some folk would say that's more abusive than anything incognito said.
Just saying like .

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: RM5944  
Date:   Wed 5 May 08:31

Would love nothing more than for SC to succeed and see no reason why we shouldn’t let him build on the work from this season.

Stewart Petrie should be the next man for the job, if we need a new manager. Until then SC will do just fine.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Wed 5 May 13:49

Quote:

saltonsgonagetu, Tue 4 May 23:03

The guy is obviously a pr*k , not only in one thread ,but in two on the same subject.


Yellow for this abuse then surely? Get OPs red removed Admin
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 5 May 14:15

Got to agree with others.

Why a red ?

Surely the thread could have simply been closed with an explanation as to why, and warning to desist from this line of discussion in the meantime.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Wed 5 May 14:49

Welcome to North Korea !

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Wed 5 May 15:40

Like many others , totally wrong time for the thread but I don't see why he has been carded.
Do the right thing Admin

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 5 May 17:00

Like many other posters, I was critical of the OP, but I don't think he deserved a red card, maybe a yellow would have sufficed?

I understand that being an administrator is like being a referee, you will never please everybody. That's why I admire you for doing it and we're grateful for it, since I don't think the forum could survive the anarchy, if we had to police ourselves all the time.

May I suggest you change the colour to a yellow and welcome incognito back? He's been punished more than enough even without the card, as posters have been laying into him and he's not been able to defend himself.

He may even have changed his mind about replacing the manager after last night's encouraging display. 🙂



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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Wed 5 May 18:48

Good post GG

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 5 May 19:13

Agreed good post... apart from the bit where you suggest he should get a card - don’t agree anyone should get carded for asking a question
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 5 May 19:29

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DBP, Wed 5 May 19:13

Agreed good post... apart from the bit where you suggest he should get a card - don’t agree anyone should get carded for asking a question


A yellow is just a wee slap on the wrist for being a naughty boy, is it not?



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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Wed 5 May 19:45

Admin love having the power to dish out yellows/reds.... do you see this on any other sites? Imo if you don’t agree with their POV then it’s a yellow.... comment again then it’s a red.
Anyway if we did get promoted there is no way the likes of Petrie/Mcall will bring any management experience to the club.... I would like to try a foreign manager tbh. As a club we have great facilities with the gym and once the training ground is sorted then push on and I hope the German investors may have someone in the wings ready to take the club forward.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 5 May 20:35

And we go back round the loop again... just because you may not like the question or the timing of it doesn’t mean he should get a slap on the wrist

I’m sure there will be some people will have felt the same about perfectly genuine things you’ve said or asked - doesn’t mean you should get a slap on the wrist

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Wed 5 May 20:46

Seems unfair to card for asking a question.

There is often chat on here about which players should be retained vs let go when the season ends. Should these conversations also stop until the season is over or not take place before a match?
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Wed 5 May 21:01

Admin adhere to Brian’s rules on this site and it’s always been like that.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Wed 5 May 22:03

Admin do a decent job, I couldn't imagine how bad it would be on here without admin. They are never going to please everyone ot get everything right first time but they do a good job

East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 5 May 22:33

Tbh, I'm impressed admin haven't deleted this thread given the first one was deleted.

I'm sure I've disagreed with admin in the past and will disagree with them again, but they do a pretty good job. You maybe less censored on other forums but those forums are typically crap.
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles  
Date:   Wed 5 May 22:48

Admin on the whole seem decent guys on here certainly alot better than the absolute basketcase and cover ups around the end of the Masterton era. I don't disagree with the post but the timing was fairly poor going into our biggest game of the season. On that basis a yellow card would have been about right.

Awight Pat!
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 5 May 22:54

What are these cards you speak of🤔
Never had one...

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Wed 5 May 22:55

Think reds should be issued to all of us periodically so we switch off from this for a bit and try keep some peace on here :)
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Wed 5 May 23:02

As much as I`m not a Crawford fan, we have to back him until we are out of the playoffs. If we go up, (which I doubt but pray I`m wrong) he absolutely deserves his chance in the SPL. I`m nervous about Saturday but hopeful we will win. We should be beating them!

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Thu 6 May 02:02

I think Craig will score a couple for us at Starks Park to put us through.
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Thu 6 May 03:15

Quote:

DBP, Wed 5 May 20:35

And we go back round the loop again... just because you may not like the question or the timing of it doesn’t mean he should get a slap on the wrist

I’m sure there will be some people will have felt the same about perfectly genuine things you’ve said or asked - doesn’t mean you should get a slap on the wrist


He didnt get it for asking a question. He got it for reposting a deleted post.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Thu 6 May 06:13

And why was his post deleted?

Was it simply because someone decided from their POV they didn’t like the question?
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Parsweep  
Date:   Thu 6 May 07:55

How do you know what it was deleted for PARrot ?
As far as I can see , admin have been asked why several times , but no reason has been given .
If , as you say it was for reposting a deleted thread , surely a yellow and an explanation of why it was given could have sufficed .

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Thu 6 May 16:16

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Parsweep, Thu 6 May 07:55

How do you know what it was deleted for PARrot ?
As far as I can see , admin have been asked why several times , but no reason has been given .
If , as you say it was for reposting a deleted thread , surely a yellow and an explanation of why it was given could have sufficed .


Just following what happened.

He was red carded after the re-post. Not before it.
Im sure I saw a thread where he asked why it was deleted and he was told why. Then he re-posted.
Thats a red to me.
Nothing personal.

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Parsweep  
Date:   Thu 6 May 16:28

He did ask why it was deleted . Admin did not give a reason .
There were a few hysterical responses i.e ( black card him ) . That sort of response didn't help .
All a bit of an overreaction Imo .

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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Thu 6 May 19:21

God forbid we have an actual discussion on here... Pathetic stuff from anyone demanding or justifying the red
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 Re: New Manager
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Thu 6 May 20:03

A discussion that has been raised on multiple threads before where we’ve gone over the same thing, over and over and over again.

I totally agree there was no need for any cards to be dished out, in larger forums the thread would’ve been shut down anyway for duplication.
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