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 Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: istvan kozma  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 21:22

Why are fans choosing not to wear masks at the match?

It's disappointing that as we do what we can to get football back to normal some people feel that rules don't apply to them?

KOZMA




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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 21:23

Because it’s utterly ridiculous and there is zero chance of outdoor transmission once you are in your seat? 🤷🏻‍♂️


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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: istvan kozma  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 21:25

I'm sure the club would appreciate us following the rules.

For that reason alone I will wear a mask.

KOZMA




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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: Stand Up  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 21:40

Disappointed if folk aren’t sticking by the rules. I’ve had to shield the whole time and despite having a season ticket I probably won’t be at a game for a while yet if folk can’t respect the rules and understand the fact that wearing a mask is to protect others, not just themselves.

Sure I won’t be the only one in that situation as well.

I’ve seen first hand what COVID and long COVID can do and it’s life changing and devastating.

Understand that your choice to not comply with the rules means that others who are in more vulnerable groups won’t feel safe enough to go. If that’s not the definition of self centered and selfish I don’t know what is.

If there are a lot of people not complying with the law I hope the club move to do something about it.
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 21:40

Not justifying it - giving an answer to the question by giving reason why.

We are at a point where there is such a divergence in application of rules across the UK between Westminster and Scottish Gov that no one can be surprised that anyone has decided not to buy into the the absolutely weakest of those rules.


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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 21:46

If you can sit at a indoor restaurant, pub, cinema etc without a mask then why not at an open air football stadium? Rules are just a joke now tbh

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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 21:48

Every stadium throughout the country with large numbers attendees are sitting together with no masks .Not agreeing one way or another ,Iam currently in Houston TX and no masks required and mqny sports events back to normal ,I think the key is to ensure people get vaccinated .
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 21:50

I reluctantly wear it. I`m all for sticking to the rules during a pandemic but it`s completely ridiculous that you have to wear one at the football. You sit closer to other tables in indoor restaurant/bars and don`t wear a mask so why on Earth are you expected to wear one when you`re seated in an outdoor stadium? Fair enough when walking about but as soon as you`re seated you should be able to take it off. It`s a bit over the top.

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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: parfection  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 21:58

I was at yesterday’s game and I kept my mask on as per the request. I want to try to do my bit to protect myself and others.
That said, we were solemnly instructed to not return a ball directly to the players but to the ball boys or girls. If there were any present at yesterday’s game I must have missed them. It can certainly appear as if rules are being made up and then followed or disregarded in a very ad hoc manner. (I mean nationally not by DAFC in particular.) It’s probably unsurprising that people don’t follow every last thing to the letter.

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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 21:59

Rightly or wrongly, I think it`s because folk are more likely to indulge in uninhibited behaviour at a football match than, say, having a meal in a restaurant. Believe it or not, some folk get excited at the football.

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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 22:03

Quote:

istvan kozma, Sun 25 Jul 21:22

Why are fans choosing not to wear masks at the match?

It's disappointing that as we do what we can to get football back to normal some people feel that rules don't apply to them?


Have to agree here, was some folk going up and down the stairs with masks on but when watching the game masks were not to be seen, sitting in different seats than they should been as they said it was their season ticket seat so lads had to sit in seats that shouldn't been available due to social distancing requirements.

Club been very very strict with the regulations this last year but yesterday it seemed very much once your in the ground do what you want.

Even with the restrictions on seats these last 2 games, people definitely been closer to each other than say in restaurants for example thats been mentioned.
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 22:13

Because as per usual people think rules.dont apply in a football stadium...
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 22:31

Well after all the hysteria over it on this forum in recent times about the vaccine I’m shocked that not everybody is wearing one…even my diseased unvaccinated self wore one.

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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 22:38

In all seriousness though, I think everyone’s just fed up with it and I don’t think there’s such a big fear of COVID than there has been previously. You’ll be told how to fart next. Most in the Main Stand wore their masks but majority of the NW weren’t including a significant lack of social distancing.

People who had masks with them always brought them down to chat near me anyway, pretty pointless. A few considerate people did put them on at full time.

It’s also very uncomfortable in such hot weather.
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 22:45

This issue has been turned into a culture war but i'm not suprised because both sides have strong cases on their side
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 22:47

"Because as per usual people think rules.dont apply in a football stadium..."

What rule in particular are you referring to? There are rules around wearing masks in indoor public spaces but is there anything specific for outdoor spaces?

As I was going in yesterday at about 2:45, the steward at the NW gates was saying that as long as folk wore masks while going in and out, it was essentially voluntary whether they did so during the game.

I do understand some people still being anxious about it, but it seems a bit of a nonsense when you`re already physically separated from other people. In a busy ground I could see some logic to it but when it`s set up such that there are big gaps everywhere by design, it does feel quite pointless. I did have mine on for the whole game and doing so doesn`t really bother me, but it`s not too difficult to see it from the viewpoint pf those who don`t want to.

For those anxious about coming back such as the poster above, it might be worth us looking at having a section to accommodate such people. Current plan is for pretty much all restrictions to be lifted in coming weeks, and after this it will be increasingly difficult to justify asking everyone to wear masks in an outdoor space. We`re not normally short of space in the ground, so maybe worth giving the North-East to those who want to retain distancing and wearing masks, even when it isn`t required? Yes, there might be a small extra cost to doing this but if this removes a barrier and allows some Pars fans to get back to watching their team who can`t do so otherwise, the really we should do it.

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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 23:07

Wear it walking around, pointless wearing once stationary whilst socially distanced in your seat.

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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 23:09

I was under the impression they were still to be worn when seated, socks.

I tried finding the correct rules and can't find anything for fans, it's all for staff.
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 23:10

The advice given at the match on multiple occasions was to wear a face mask covering both mouth and nose for the duration of being in the stadium.
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 23:18

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Berry, Sun 25 Jul 23:10

The advice given at the match on multiple occasions was to wear a face mask covering both mouth and nose for the duration of being in the stadium.


the amount of people just not at the football who can't grasp that fact is shocking

not just protecting yourself but those around you, bo matter your view on the whole situation.

club has stated at each game and before it about mask wearing...

Wear your face covering correctly at all times, covering your mouth and nose.

Sounds like the club and stewards on different wave lengths as usual.
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 23:37

My concern on here is we are turning it into a DAFC problem ,when it is simply happening at all major events
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: theparsman1885  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 23:41

It’s unenforceable and purely on goodwill. Unpoliceable thanks to the “I can’t wear a mask I’ve got COPD” but then puff 20 fags a day, ordering their “I’m exempt” lanyards off the internet for £4 just because they can’t be bothered. Meanwhile the poor people who actually can’t wear a mask get vilified. The rest have a decision to make. Wear one or Dont. I’ll be wearing mines because I’d hate to think I had it and risked others lives because I couldn’t wear a bit of cloth over my gob for an hour or two.

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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: Bouncer  
Date:   Sun 25 Jul 23:46

Head along to Cowdenbeath or Lochgelly for the stock cars and there is no requirement to wear a mask while outdoors except when going through the turnstile.
Likewise I was at a junior game last week and no mask was needed.
I can see nothing on the Scotgov website that says the wearing of a mask in any outdoor setting is a requirement now either.



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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Mon 26 Jul 06:44

Dunfermline seem to be one of the few clubs who are insisting on masks at your seat going by fans of other clubs on Pie and Bovril etc. Most are saying when moving around consistent with restaurants etc. Cowdenbeath even had their catering outlets open (possibly because they are outside rather than being in a concourse but still there is inconsistencies across the whole of the country).

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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft  
Date:   Mon 26 Jul 07:48

It’s completely unenforceable. All you need to say is you are exempt. I wore mine into the ground & when going to the toilet.. but took it off at my seat.. only person that was within a metre of me was my brother. Absolutely no reason to wear a mask in that situation.

The rules are an absolute nonsense now anyway. I have to wear a mask for 90 mins sitting outside and stay socially distanced from people, but I can have 8 of those same people in my house straight after the game & nobody has to wear a mask or socially distance?
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle  
Date:   Mon 26 Jul 08:15

I can see where the logic comes from - a large-ish gathering of people in a potentially highly charged atmosphere, with shouting and singing, and a potential for grabbing strangers if that late dramatic winning shot hits the back of the net. That's all a far cry from the still very sanitised pub or restaurant environment, and comparisons with private homes aren't helpful given the small number of people. So it's an easy decision, based on logic, from the authorities to ask for mask wearing, even if wearing a mask is essentially unnecessary for most individuals in the ground at any given moment.

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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: par-91  
Date:   Mon 26 Jul 08:44

I took my mask off at my seat. However, I suffer from asthma, where I have to take my inhalers twice a day. I can’t wear a mask for a long period of time at all and can struggle going round shops/up and down stairs with masks on. I am exempt from wearing them, but try to wear them when I can, so that others are more comfortable/protected. So I made the decision to wear my mask when moving around/in busier areas, but take it off when I was at my seat. There are a lot of health conditions that make it difficult to wear masks for long periods, but some of us try and think of others by wearing masks when we’re most likely to be close to/in contact with people, rather than not wearing them at all.

I know not everyone who chose not to wear masks will actually be in that sort of position, but to people who don’t know me I probably just look like a fairly healthy 30 year old. It’s not just old people with severe illnesses who are exempt from face coverings/struggle with them. At the end of the day, I’m a fairly normal looking 30 year old, who was vaccinated with 60+ year olds because of underlying conditions. Not everyone with underlying conditions will look unhealthy. But surely you’d rather I wore masks in the busier areas/when moving around, than making myself uncomfortable when at my seat and probably not being able to wear one when leaving the ground/going to the toilet?

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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Mon 26 Jul 09:19

Wore mine when moving about but took it off when sitting. Sat in front row with only my dad and brother near me.





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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Mon 26 Jul 10:12

When you can avoid the deadliest virus in history with any bit of cloth or by simply sitting down, the mask isn't for your health, it's a compliance test.

If I went spray painting I'd have a higher standard of masking than you lot are using to allegedly save your lives.

It is utterly laughable.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Mon 26 Jul 11:08

I followed instructions and wore my piece of cloth the whole time - I do though think the instruction is a joke - I didn’t see a single person wearing a mask outside while walking up to the ground - Wighton, McCann and a third person (can’t remember who) were all sat together under the main stand and not a mask between them.

As for the continual instruction to throw the ball back to the nonexistent ball boys - the players were asking for the ball back from the crowd when it went out!

Andy J
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Mon 26 Jul 12:07

Like many others, mask on when entering and leaving but that was it.

Waste of time in the lovely fresh air.
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Mon 26 Jul 12:10

So we can pick and choose which rules to follow?
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 26 Jul 12:21

Most guidance errs on the side of caution, mainly because most people don't follow the guidance properly in the first place and like to dilute it.

Masks do offer a degree of protection though I'd suggest there's a risk that people think it offers more protection than it really does.
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: fcda  
Date:   Mon 26 Jul 12:23

Quote:

P, Sun 25 Jul 21:40
We are at a point where there is such a divergence in application of rules across the UK between Westminster and Scottish Gov that no one can be surprised that anyone has decided not to buy into the the absolutely weakest of those rules.


Surely by now everyone understands that Scotland had its own rules and Bojo should be ignored?
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 Re: Mask or no mask
Topic Originator: fcda  
Date:   Mon 26 Jul 12:26

Quote:

parsfan97, Sun 25 Jul 21:46

If you can sit at a indoor restaurant, pub, cinema etc without a mask then why not at an open air football stadium? Rules are just a joke now tbh


whataboutery

Again, surely by now folk understand that the rules are made to take account of overall risk across all sectors and population? Some sectors are prioritised over others.
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