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 Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 12:07

First day of the season, let’s hope we get 3 points and a good performance COYP!

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 12:16

I have a good feeling of a big win today!

COYP!!

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 14:12

Well, we have a pretty tasty 343 lineup today, clearly signalling our intent to scare the bejeezus out of teams not just at EEP but on their own turf.

Very much looking forward to seeing how today pans out. The Dorrans and Thomas pairing in central midfield is going to be worth watching.

A strong bench today too.

COYP!

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 14:14

343 away to Morton ? Brave .
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 14:15

Apologies didn’t see this thread

Admin feel free to delete mine.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 14:15

Has Berkey selected his central midfield scapegoat yet ?
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: nazpar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 14:32

I think we will get beat . bogey ground for us I think 🤔🤔🤔

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Parsfangaz  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 14:35

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nazpar, Sat 31 Jul 14:32

I think we will get beat . bogey ground for us I think 🤔🤔🤔


Bet your great fun at a party !!
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: nazpar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 14:38

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Parsfangaz, Sat 31 Jul 14:35

Quote:

nazpar, Sat 31 Jul 14:32

I think we will get beat . bogey ground for us I think 🤔🤔🤔


Bet your great fun at a party !!


Yep the life and soul of every party I go to

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:14

Morton came close with that belt off the side post. Jeesh

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:17

Wighton has lost possession or just been knocked off the ball four times already.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:19

Thomas needs to retain possession better in the middle of the park, misplacing a load of passes so far. Just need to get through this opening period and build ourselves into the game
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:21

Penalty.... Easy ball over the top, Graham getting manhandled by Ugwu so far
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:22

Penalty. Certainly not going to be any walkover here. Way things are going 1 point might be good.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:22

Morton 1-0 DAFC
Gary Oliver penalty

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:23

1-0

Get the finger out!!

“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:23

Dreadful by Graham again.

Utterly attrocious, this is a team who'll be battling relegation this season and they've absolutely ran over the top of us, we can consider ourselves lucky not to be 3 down. Lineup gave me the fear and it's been well founded.

As I type another absolutely dreadful pass from Thomas, proper basic errors in the passing.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:23

Look a shambles so far. I did worry about Ross Graham against physical opposition. He`s a decent ball playing centre back but did make a few mistakes against Dumbarton (can`t comment about the Stenny game). Hopefully we can settle and play the way we`ve been playing in the cup.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:23

Poor so far. Misplaced passes and timid challenges. Ton deserve their lead.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:24

Winning leagues ? We are absolutely honking . Crazy suicidal formation away from home . Have not had a kick .
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:25

Graham did ok against Stenny but i had the same reservations about Graham after that Dumbarton game.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:26

The kamikaze O’hara , wighton , Todorov thing needs binned pronto. Fine for friendliest but come on . Absolutely no midfield
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:26

Stay calm folks…when we get into this we have the strikers to bang the goals in.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:27

Why are we just long balling it ?

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:29

Quote:

Berry, Sat 31 Jul 15:26

Stay calm folks…when we get into this we have the strikers to bang the goals in.



How we getting into this like?

We need to hope the Morton defence implodes like Particks.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: plainview  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:30

Surprised at playing Dorrans in a 2 man midfield, seem to be getting overrun. Could be a lot worse so far but there’s still plenty of time to go! Just needs one goal to completely change it like in the Partick match

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:30

Come on tae feck Pedro . Sitting watching this . Get it sorted. Useless absolutely useless
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:30

Just a little bit of faith, only 30mins in.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:31

Gozie Ugwu`s doing a number on us.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:31

I was laughed at for suggesting 442 fae boys that are about 12. Need to get back in to this . Shocking performance so far
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:32

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Grant, Sat 31 Jul 15:23

Dreadful by Graham again.

Utterly attrocious, this is a team who'll be battling relegation this season and they've absolutely ran over the top of us, we can consider ourselves lucky not to be 3 down. Lineup gave me the fear and it's been well founded.

As I type another absolutely dreadful pass from Thomas, proper basic errors in the passing.


Battling relegation? How on earth can you say half way through the first half of the first game?

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:32

Been more long balls from us in this half than during Crawfords tenure, absolutely awful.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:32

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PARrot, Sat 31 Jul 15:32

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Grant, Sat 31 Jul 15:23

Dreadful by Graham again.

Utterly attrocious, this is a team who'll be battling relegation this season and they've absolutely ran over the top of us, we can consider ourselves lucky not to be 3 down. Lineup gave me the fear and it's been well founded.

As I type another absolutely dreadful pass from Thomas, proper basic errors in the passing.


Battling relegation? How on earth can you say half way through the first half of the first game?



Because I know about other teams in the division?
The season hadn't started yet in the BPL but you can safely say that Man City are going to be one of the better teams can't you?
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:33

I knew it would go south on this forum pretty quickly but even I’m surprised it’s happened after half an hour.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:33

Getting overrun at the moment

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:34

4 or 5 could benefit hooked at half time if it was possible! Seem to be unable to do the utter basics today.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:35

Questioning who is favourites for the drop and who is the so-called favourite for the title. God-awful display.

I Know There's Gonna Be (Good Times)
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:36

Mcdonald and Wighton off at half time, Kai Kennedy and Pybus on. I'd be perfectly happy for Graham to come off for Vytas aswell.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:37

Tell you what, 36 minutes in and we're lucky to not be 3 down, haven't laid a glove on Morton, and we've changed nothing. No change in shape, no subs, nothing.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:37

Part of the problem of playing teams like Dumbarton and Stenhousemuir, you struggle to gauge where the team is at and can fall into a false sense of security.

Bit of a reality check for the team it sounds like, hope for a better second half.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:38

Anyone thinking we are gonna win the title is on crack cocaine . It was never ever a possibility. There’s a competitive championship team in that squad but that’s it . Wighton to the right of Todorov and Kennedy to the left . Get bodies in the middle of the park . 343 is so easy to play against .
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:39

Think Raith are table toppers as things stand.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:39

How has Todorov missed that!!!!
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:39

Oooft Todorov header wide

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:39

Quote:

SergioDuarte, Sat 31 Jul 15:31

I was laughed at for suggesting 442 fae boys that are about 12. Need to get back in to this . Shocking performance so far


nah pal I ain't your average YouTuber !! 12 lmfao
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:39

They criminal from Todorov
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:40

Weighton looks miles off it today

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:40

What’s you real name Pars207?
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:40

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PARS207, Sat 31 Jul 15:39

How has Todorov missed that!!!!


On the stretch, couldn't get over the ball, far, far, far harder chance than you'd think.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:41

Corner, come on do something with it this time.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:42

What name did you used to post under on here pars207: I recognise your horrific patter .
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:42

It's hard to get across just how bad some players have been, but Thomas and Graham have been about a 2/10, if you're generous.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:43

Absolutely diabolical display so far from the Pars today. Look half decent against non entities like Stenhousemuir & Dumbarton. Big deal.

Morton have 2 of the worst players ever to play on a football pitch starting for them today, Ugwu & Muirhead, and we're still rank rotten against them.

So bad it's almost laughable.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:44

It’s alright though…Kelty are winning.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:44

Wee bit of pressure before half time but final ball not good enough.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:44

What an awful fist half no cohesion at all getting outmuscled front and back

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:44

Well this first half has been well let’s put it shocking

Wake up call needed

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:45

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SergioDuarte, Sat 31 Jul 15:42

What name did you used to post under on here pars207: I recognise your horrific patter .


not half as bad as the crap u come out with!
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars
Topic Originator: Athletico  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:46

Went from sexy football to lump it. Morton can barely cobble a team together.



Post Edited (Sat 31 Jul 15:46)
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:47

Morton unlucky not to be home and hosed. Hopefully turn up in the 2nd Half.

Awight Pat!
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:47

And that's the worst I've seen the Pars since we got skelped by Raith, worryingly the complete lack of a competent game plan, and then the nous to change it from Peter Grant doesn't bode well does it?

Absolutely no one played well, however certain players (Graham, Thomas, Dorrans and Wighton) played really, really, really bad. How much of that is down to the ridiculous system is up for debate. We don't need more passion or effort, we need Peter Grant to realise that simply putting every attacking player on the pitch together doesn't equate to total football.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:47

We just have to keep going - Don’t panic!

Not sure about the front 3 trio, not really producing much.

“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:48

Severe talking to at HT.

Wighton won’t have a single bead of sweat or a blade of grass on his shirt after 45 mins.

Even Todorov is getting out muscled.

Insipid display……

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:49

Glad to get in just 1 down.

I suspect PG will be going through them rite now and everyone at the ground will hear it lol
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:49

Quote:

Angus_W, Sat 31 Jul 15:47

We just have to keep going - Don’t panic!

Not sure about the front 3 trio, not really producing much.




I'd rather we panicked and maybe changed some things. Inaction isn't go to do eff all.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:49

Was always a risk playing Thomas in midfield, surprised Dorrans went straight into the lineup.

Let’s see what happens second half, no point blowing a gasket at this stage. Let’s see if Grant can work something out.

Post Edited (Sat 31 Jul 15:50)
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:49

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PARS207, Sat 31 Jul 15:49

Glad to get in just 1 down.

I suspect PG will be going through them rite now and everyone at the ground will hear it lol


Hopefully the players point out the formation and lineup from PG set us up to fail.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:50

Suicidal formation to begin watch. Fine when you are playing part time cannon fodder. The bench looks half decent so all is not lost
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:51

Topic Originator: SergioDuarte like | nolike
Date: Sat 31 Jul 15:50

Suicidal formation to begin watch. Fine when you are playing part time cannon fodder. The bench looks half decent so all is not lost

Was going to post something similar.

Wing backs have been anonymous.

Need to change the formation

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars
Topic Originator: DRreturns  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:51

Folk on here are complete melts 😂😂😂

I’m here to take over!!
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars
Topic Originator: AlterPar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:52

Has been like Barcelona vs Fort William so far!
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: davepars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:52

I hope to have a right good giggle at some of the comments on here come full time.

I hope....

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:53

Our wing backs and playing as full backs making it a 5

Dorrans and Thomas struggling to make a pass

Wighton - Well less said the better

Todorov should have scored

Graham is being bullied by Ugwu

We could have been 3 down

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: FRED1981  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:54

Its like the Alamo according to my son but there again it’s Dunfermline expecting so much and letting us down again and again.

F muller
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:54

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SergioDuarte, Sat 31 Jul 15:50

Suicidal formation to begin watch. Fine when you are playing part time cannon fodder. The bench looks half decent so all is not lost


Do you think we should have started with a different formation?
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:55

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obiwanyouknowme, Sat 31 Jul 15:53

Our wing backs and playing as full backs making it a 5

Dorrans and Thomas struggling to make a pass

Wighton - Well less said the better

Todorov should have scored

Graham is being bullied by Ugwu

We could have been 3 down


no no it was apparently a very very difficult chance that Todorov missed....
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:55

A meltdown inside the first half of the opening game 🙄
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:59

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Grant, Sat 31 Jul 15:32

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PARrot, Sat 31 Jul 15:32

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Grant, Sat 31 Jul 15:23

Dreadful by Graham again.

Utterly attrocious, this is a team who'll be battling relegation this season and they've absolutely ran over the top of us, we can consider ourselves lucky not to be 3 down. Lineup gave me the fear and it's been well founded.

As I type another absolutely dreadful pass from Thomas, proper basic errors in the passing.


Battling relegation? How on earth can you say half way through the first half of the first game?



Because I know about other teams in the division?
The season hadn't started yet in the BPL but you can safely say that Man City are going to be one of the better teams can't you?


I remember our first game of the season away to Livingstone when folks thought the same.
Remember what happened?

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:01

We improved towards the end of the half, need to have a bit of faith, retain the ball better and pick out a better final pass. A few players such as Graham looking a little nervous, only 1 goal in the game and plenty of time to get back into it.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:01

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PARrot, Sat 31 Jul 15:59

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Grant, Sat 31 Jul 15:32

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PARrot, Sat 31 Jul 15:32

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Grant, Sat 31 Jul 15:23

Dreadful by Graham again.

Utterly attrocious, this is a team who'll be battling relegation this season and they've absolutely ran over the top of us, we can consider ourselves lucky not to be 3 down. Lineup gave me the fear and it's been well founded.

As I type another absolutely dreadful pass from Thomas, proper basic errors in the passing.


Battling relegation? How on earth can you say half way through the first half of the first game?



Because I know about other teams in the division?
The season hadn't started yet in the BPL but you can safely say that Man City are going to be one of the better teams can't you?


I remember our first game of the season away to Livingstone when folks thought the same.
Remember what happened?



Eh? You're talking absolutely nonsense.

It baffles me the lengths people go to when trying to justify there happy clapping.

"Well how do you KNOW they'll be battling relegation"


Maybe because they scraped survival last year, have a wager thin squad missing about 5 players from it and are quite rightly one of the favourites for relegation?


People live in an absolute bubble min
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:02

I think Grant was referring to Morton fighting relegation, Parrot. Not us. (Apologies if I’ve picked that up wrong).

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: yorkiepar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:02

The team may have changed in line-up terms, but the all-too-familiar, hysterical, attention-seeking garbage from a small number of posters on this forum certainly hasn’t - unfortunately. 🥱

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: stevo1885  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:04

45 minutes into the first game of the season and people saying things like the manager is showing a “complete lack of nous in how to change it”

Unbelievable!!

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:04

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buffy, Sat 31 Jul 16:02

I think Grant was referring to Morton fighting relegation, Parrot. Not us. (Apologies if I’ve picked that up wrong).



I was Buffy, I think parrot know that due to his bizarre comparison to Livingston.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:05

Quote:

stevo1885, Sat 31 Jul 16:04

45 minutes into the first game of the season and people saying things like the manager is showing a “complete lack of nous in how to change it”

Unbelievable!!



Maybe because the manager has done absolutely nothing to change it, Hth.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:06

Quote:

Grant, Sat 31 Jul 16:05

Quote:

stevo1885, Sat 31 Jul 16:04

45 minutes into the first game of the season and people saying things like the manager is showing a “complete lack of nous in how to change it”

Unbelievable!!



Maybe because the manager has done absolutely nothing to change it, Hth.


Some absolutely pathetic bed wetting on this thread.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:06

He won't get the goal, I'm not even sure if hell get the assist.


But the technique from Edwards there to pluck that out the sky for that full volley is incredible, absolutely incredible.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:07

Thats better come on.

Toddy with the equaliser. Shame Josh's volley hadn't gone in would been some goal
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars.
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:07

That`ll do nicely. C`mon ye Pars!!!

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars.
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:07

Goallllllll

Morton 1-1 DAFC
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: stevo1885  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:08


Maybe because the manager has done absolutely nothing to change it, Hth.


Dear me

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:09

Ugwu should've put Morton back ahead there. Thankfully he's not got Josh Edwards technique.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars.
Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:09

😂 my word! Folks were like yeah will give PG time to turn us around and boom 30 mins to 45 into first game of season he`s getting pelters.

Morton set up to combat the formation we have, I expect PG to come up with another option for second half. He knows we have the players to win this.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:10

Quote:

stevo1885, Sat 31 Jul 16:08

Maybe because the manager has done absolutely nothing to change it, Hth.


Dear me



We're still playing badly, scoring a goal against the run of play doesn't mean that the whole performance, or the tactics used are justified.

Over a course of a season if you are as behind on xG as what we have been in this game it'll show. We need to be far better.
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:11

Great punching save to start with after Josh’s run but Macdonald setting up Toddy brilliant

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:13

Muirhead with another great chance for Morton.

We really do not look like a team that's comfortable with this system defensively
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:13

Superb Dunfermline. Great management from Pedro . What a difference
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:13

Can go either way, this game. Morton on the front foot now but useless in front of goal thankfully.

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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:14

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DBA, Sat 31 Jul 15:54

Quote:

SergioDuarte, Sat 31 Jul 15:50

Suicidal formation to begin watch. Fine when you are playing part time cannon fodder. The bench looks half decent so all is not lost


Do you think we should have started with a different formation?


I felt we should have started with a 442 .
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Topic Originator: plainview  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:14

Link up play and attacking up the right wing improved so far this half but our defending is absolutely shocking, it’s like no one wants to go for the ball when it lands in our box. The Ugwu chance was comical both from a defending and finishing POV

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-0 Pars. HT
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:14

Quote:

buffy, Sat 31 Jul 16:02

I think Grant was referring to Morton fighting relegation, Parrot. Not us. (Apologies if I’ve picked that up wrong).


Yes zi know and I asked how he could say that. He provided a more than adequate reply. Much appreciated, but unfortunately it included a loada unnecessarily pihs with it.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:17

Quote:

Grant, Sat 31 Jul 16:10

Quote:

stevo1885, Sat 31 Jul 16:08

Maybe because the manager has done absolutely nothing to change it, Hth.


Dear me



We're still playing badly, scoring a goal against the run of play doesn't mean that the whole performance, or the tactics used are justified.

Over a course of a season if you are as behind on xG as what we have been in this game it'll show. We need to be far better.


xG what a load of nonsense.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:18

Quote:

Kdy Par, Sat 31 Jul 16:17

Quote:

Grant, Sat 31 Jul 16:10

Quote:

stevo1885, Sat 31 Jul 16:08

Maybe because the manager has done absolutely nothing to change it, Hth.


Dear me



We're still playing badly, scoring a goal against the run of play doesn't mean that the whole performance, or the tactics used are justified.

Over a course of a season if you are as behind on xG as what we have been in this game it'll show. We need to be far better.


xG what a load of nonsense.



You're joking, right?
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:19

Still relying too much on the big hoof up the park. But it`s 1-1 and if we can nick a lucky goal it gives us something to build on.



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 Re: Match Thread:Morton V Pars
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:19

I like the Morton commentators. Very impartial and informative.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:20

That back 3 is absolutely humpty . Seriously poor . Mistake after mistake . Shaky .
I’d bite your hand off for a point right now . Come on Dunfermline !!!! Ffs
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:21

Quote:

Grant, Sat 31 Jul 16:18

Quote:

Kdy Par, Sat 31 Jul 16:17

Quote:

Grant, Sat 31 Jul 16:10

Quote:

stevo1885, Sat 31 Jul 16:08

Maybe because the manager has done absolutely nothing to change it, Hth.


Dear me



We're still playing badly, scoring a goal against the run of play doesn't mean that the whole performance, or the tactics used are justified.

Over a course of a season if you are as behind on xG as what we have been in this game it'll show. We need to be far better.


xG what a load of nonsense.



You're joking, right?


No.

How many point do you get for an xG win?
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:22

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Kdy Par, Sat 31 Jul 16:21

Quote:

Grant, Sat 31 Jul 16:18

Quote:

Kdy Par, Sat 31 Jul 16:17

Quote:

Grant, Sat 31 Jul 16:10

Quote:

stevo1885, Sat 31 Jul 16:08

Maybe because the manager has done absolutely nothing to change it, Hth.


Dear me



We're still playing badly, scoring a goal against the run of play doesn't mean that the whole performance, or the tactics used are justified.

Over a course of a season if you are as behind on xG as what we have been in this game it'll show. We need to be far better.


xG what a load of nonsense.



You're joking, right?


No.

How many point do you get for an xG win?


...

You're not joking are you?
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:24

xG is a very useful statistic
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Topic Originator: rikaka  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:25

The term xG in football is an abbreviation which stands for 'expected goals'. It is a statistical measurement of the quality of goalscoring chances and the likelihood of them being scored.

An xG measurement can be generated for both teams as a whole and individual players, giving an indication as to how well they should be performing in front of goal.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:25

I think we have a decent side if we go with a 442 /433 .
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Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:26

Yeah, Parrot, the commentator`s deserve a mention. One of them`s Andy Ritchie. Me and Andy both had a trial for Rob Roy. They signed him instead of me. It still rankles after all these years. Big pansy!!



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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:27

This is an incredible, if not unexpected, thread for the first game of the season with a new boss, new style and many new players.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:30

Get in ya beauty!!!!!

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Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:30

get in there!!!!
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:30

Can we celebrate that goal, as Morton are still winning on xG.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:30

Yaaaass!

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:30

Can we stop fishing ourselves yet.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:30

2-1 Pars.




It's bloody tough being a legend
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Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:31

It’s scrappy but they all count now close this out Pars.

“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:31

I also doubt that we're massively behind on xG

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:31

Ooh, that was coming. Camon ye Pars!!!!!

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Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:31

Yasss
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:31

Ooooooft
Goalllllll
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:32

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Kdy Par, Sat 31 Jul 16:30

Can we celebrate that goal, as Morton are still winning on xG.


Lol
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Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:32

thats shocking from collum. yellow all day long and he tells the boy to calm down
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Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:32

Much better in the 2nd half so far, along with Morton tiring a little from their tight marking, need to try and grab that third goal to kill the game off if we can.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:32

There is only one stat that really matters at the end of the game




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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:32

Kevin O'Hara doing what good strikers do, a stramash in the box and he smashes it in.

This would be a very undeserved 3 points but I'd absolutely take it.
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:32

Superb . COYP
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Topic Originator: OldInnPar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:33

Quote:

Grant, Sat 31 Jul 16:32

Kevin O'Hara doing what good strikers do, a stramash in the box and he smashes it in.

This would be a very undeserved 3 points but I'd absolutely take it.


Even the Morton commentators agree…..Dunfermline by far the better side 2nd half, finished strongly….never mind
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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:34

Quote:

Grant, Sat 31 Jul 16:32

Kevin O'Hara doing what good strikers do, a stramash in the box and he smashes it in.

This would be a very undeserved 3 points but I'd absolutely take it.


Undeserved if you just look at the first half but we have totally dominated the 2nd half....according to the commentators, not the happy clappy.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:35

Quote:

Raymie the Legend, Sat 31 Jul 16:32

There is only one stat that really matters at the end of the game



Not really though, not over a league campaign.

If we just look at this result, see that we've won and infer from it that everything is fine it'll catch up on us over a season.

Brentford take xG very seriously and they've went from league 1 to the Premier, because you can notice trends through it. It can help you see whether you're being unlucky over a couple of games or whether you really need to make big changes etc.

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Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:36

Quote:

Raymie the Legend, Sat 31 Jul 16:32

There is only one stat that really matters at the end of the game


Exactly.
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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:36

Coming back from a goal down away from home after a poor 45 minutes is a good sign in my book.

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Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:37

"This would be a very undeserved 3 points but I`d absolutely take it."

Grant I take it you are not a Dunfermline fan 🤔

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:37

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PARrot, Sat 31 Jul 16:36

Coming back from a goal down away from home after a poor 45 minutes is a good sign in my book.


Agree
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Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:37

Ffs
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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:37

Oops!

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:37

2-2.


But we were winning so everything was going well? Isn't that how football works?!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:37

I’m sure the coaches will be well aware of the deficiencies during this game. That’s why games are analysed with the players on a Monday.

2-2 now




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Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:37

Looked under no pressure at all and concede that... Poor goal to lose.

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:38

Cracking equaliser

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:38

Quote:

brian, Sat 31 Jul 16:37

"This would be a very undeserved 3 points but I`d absolutely take it."

Grant I take it you are not a Dunfermline fan 🤔



If I wasn't a Dunfermline fan I wouldn't want the 3 points?
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Alan  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:38

Why can we never hold on to a lead

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:38

Quote:

Raymie the Legend, Sat 31 Jul 16:37

I’m sure the coaches will be well aware of the deficiencies during this game. That’s what games are analysed with the players on a Monday.

2-2 now



Wouldn't bother me at all if we were analysing it though the game and changed it.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:38

FFS deflected cross loops in.

Imagine the abuse Fonners would been getting rite now if he was in goal for it
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:39

Looked like a cross that went straight in ? No ? Two very very poor goals to concede nonetheless

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:41

It's a deflected cross. Total fluke. Not much the keeper can do.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: plainview  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:41

They’ve shown the replay twice and I still couldn’t tell what really happened there for the goal, did the deflection happen behind the pillar? Looked like it was a cross that the keeper just let in

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:41

Raith 4-0 and now trying to prevent a draw against Hamilton

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:42

And there is the collapse of the farter
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:42

Football is back and so is the usual. Net implosion.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:42

Jammy equaliser, need to keep doing what we've been doing for most of the half, sneaking a win here would be huge for us
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:42

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nazpar, Sat 31 Jul 14:38

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Parsfangaz, Sat 31 Jul 14:35

Quote:

nazpar, Sat 31 Jul 14:32

I think we will get beat . bogey ground for us I think 🤔🤔🤔


Bet your great fun at a party !!


Yep the life and soul of every party I go to


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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:42

Quote:

plainview, Sat 31 Jul 16:41

They’ve shown the replay twice and I still couldn’t tell what really happened there for the goal, did the deflection happen behind the pillar? Looked like it was a cross that the keeper just let in



Not can I, with the frame rate and the angle it'd be hard to pick up a deflection tbf.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:43

Rovers battering Hamilton . Why did we no go for JM rather than Peter the Pointer . Daft. We look so poor at the back
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:44

Quote:

SergioDuarte, Sat 31 Jul 16:43

Rovers battering Hamilton . Why did we no go for JM rather than Peter the Pointer . Daft. We look so poor at the back


JM wouldn't have came to us for one!
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:44

Reece Cole just missed an absolute sitter to potentially win us the game.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:45

Not really battering, 4-3 up now and Thistle winning 3-2.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:45

Why not Grant ? Personal reasons or football related ?
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:45

Open goal. Shocking

G.B
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:45

Reece Cole should have his contract terminated for that miss. Absolute howler.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:45

What a miss to win it there. Goal was at his mercy!

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:46

omg how he miss that.....

what a ball from Dorrans though
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:46

Our farter is defo gonna collapse here .
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:47

Could be worse, we could have been 4-0 up and chucked it!

Just sitting here drenched in my own negativity!
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:47

Rovers 4 Hamilton 4

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Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:47

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Polt, Sat 31 Jul 16:47

Rovers 4 Hamilton 4


wow lol
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:48

Rovers bottom has collapsed . Braw
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:48

Our central defence have conceded bad goals in every game badly need a central defender not convinced by Watson or Graham

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:48

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SergioDuarte, Sat 31 Jul 16:45

Why not Grant ? Personal reasons or football related ?


Bit of both mate, he's just Rovers through and through.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:49

Ugwu Mom just about sums it up

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:49

Lithuanian international on the bench .
Mind boggling
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:49

Aye, Raith are battering Hamilton 4 each now.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:49

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Grant, Sat 31 Jul 16:48

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SergioDuarte, Sat 31 Jul 16:45

Why not Grant ? Personal reasons or football related ?


Bit of both mate, he's just Rovers through and through.


He’s brutal anyway . 😂
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:50

4-0 up with 22 minutes left, and draw.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:52

Take a point . Need a few wee tweaks to get the best team on the park I reckon but a point is a good result when we played 60-70 mins of really bad fitba .
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:53

A point isn't the end of the world, however today showcased the shortcomings of this formation and team set up.

If we go back to a back four then IMO Vytas or Breen should come in for Graham, his ball carrying abilities are fantastic but against a physical striker like Gozie he had a torrid time.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:54

File that for under the we were shocking category

Thomas being hooked ???
Wighton you n for second half ???
Cole miss ????

For me we need another striker and we can’t play Thomas and Dorran

I think Watson can’t play in a 3 and Graham will be bombed out for Breen if he keeps that type of performance up.

I would like to see us try a 4-4-2

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:54

SPFL Championship FT scores
Morton 2-2 DAFC
Rovers 4-4 Hamilton
Partick 3-2 QoS
Arbroath 0-1 ICT

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: plainview  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:54

Dorrans was really decent 2nd half.
Definitely take a draw after the shocking first half display… we always struggle to close a game out at Cappielow!
Defending really suspect, a better team would’ve buried us.

Nevertheless, can’t wait for next week!

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:55

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buffy, Sat 31 Jul 16:54

SPFL Championship FT scores
Morton 2-2 DAFC
Rovers 4-4 Hamilton
Partick 3-2 QoS
Arbroath 0-1 ICT


Arbroath fans will feel short changed, some amount of goals in the other 3 games.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:55

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Kessel, Sat 31 Jul 16:45

Reece Cole should have his contract terminated for that miss. Absolute howler.


You might remember Nisbet missing an open goal from 6 yards in one of his early games for the Pars.

He didn't do too badly after that.....



Not your average Sunday League player.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 1-1 Pars.
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:55

Draw is fine with me.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:56

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obiwanyouknowme, Sat 31 Jul 16:54

File that for under the we were shocking category

Thomas being hooked ???
Wighton you n for second half ???
Cole miss ????

For me we need another striker and we can’t play Thomas and Dorran

I think Watson can’t play in a 3 and Graham will be bombed out for Breen if he keeps that type of performance up.

I would like to see us try a 4-4-2


Me too
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:56

Flukey equaliser and a missed sitter made all the difference.
Morton on top 1st 45 and we dominated the 2nd.

Ill take Andy Ritchies unbiased viw over anyone's on here I think.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:56

Some utter bedwetting flanges on here. Needing to get out for yer first hole if the first half of a Pars match is getting you in that state.
Not a bad point away, at a tricky ground. Not a great performance from some players, but they will learn from it and come back stronger.
Raith Rovers point will be telling over the season, that's the kind of result that will haunt them over the campaign
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:59

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red-star-par, Sat 31 Jul 16:56

Some utter bedwetting flanges on here. Needing to get out for yer first hole if the first half of a Pars match is getting you in that state.
Not a bad point away, at a tricky ground. Not a great performance from some players, but they will learn from it and come back stronger.
Raith Rovers point will be telling over the season, that's the kind of result that will haunt them over the campaign


That describes me to a tee mate .
A bed wetting flange who is in desperate need of their hole !
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 16:59

Defensively we need to improve massively. Conceding two goals to Morton is a worrying sign when they are arguably one of the weaker teams in the league. A big thing Grant will need to sort is the centre of midfield. Personally, I`d have Thomas back on the wing and 3 natural midfielders in the centre. We do have a lot of talent up front but I would sacrifice one of the front three. Comrie would be much better on the right and play one of the natural centre backs in his current position.

Just my opinion, but chances are Grant will keep a similar formation next week. Very disappointed with a draw today. I expected a much better performance. Fingers crossed we can get a win next week.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:00

Ok,not a great performance, but I'm sure grant will have this tweaked,he's no mug,and will act if need be.

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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:00

Take the point and move on to next week
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: RossDAFC  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:02

Ross Graham with 3 mistakes in 3 games all leading to goals and got absolutely bullied today. Young lads will make mistakes but poor management leaving him on for the full game. Dorrans was a positive, other than that pretty forgettable afternoon.

No real ground lost but a missed opportunity for sure.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:02

I reckon a back 4 for the next game
4 in the middle and 2 strikers up top
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:04

Before the game would taken a point no problem, at half time would been grabbing it out your hand and running.
At end of game thinking as bad as it was, disappointed not to get the 3 points with the chances we missed with Cole especially.

For me Wighton didn't look fit at all, suspect another weeks training under his belt and Breen will be in defence, Dorrans you can see has the class and skill to be in the middle of the park but who do you go in there with him if in a 2?

Early days but important to come away with something I guess when you don't perform.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: BlackLight  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:05


One bad defensive mistake and a total fluke.

I don`t think we were amazing, but not a bad start to the season to take a point away from Greenock.

Not sure that Mehmet is #1 goalie based on pre-season, but let`s see.

Also, not sure that Dorrans improved much, but he`s only been in the squad for 7 seconds.

COYP.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:05

Cooooeeeee Sergio 😉 😂 😂


That’s got me in stitches RSP!

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:06

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RossDAFC, Sat 31 Jul 17:02

Ross Graham with 3 mistakes in 3 games all leading to goals and got absolutely bullied today. Young lads will make mistakes but poor management leaving him on for the full game. Dorrans was a positive, other than that pretty forgettable afternoon.

No real ground lost but a missed opportunity for sure.


Wasn't at fault for the Stenny goal but I was a bit surprised to see him come out for the 2nd half today.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:14

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buffy, Sat 31 Jul 17:05

Cooooeeeee Sergio 😉 😂 😂


That’s got me in stitches RSP!


Haha, "well helloooo, Buffy...."
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:15

Two weeks before Grant must go posts guaranteed.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:16

The lack of patience of football fans never ceases to amaze me. Some on here had virtually written off our season after half an hour. We were 1-0 down to a penalty resulting from a misjudgement by our keeper but people were reacting as if we`d been played off the park.

I actually quite enjoyed the Morton commentary. They were much more objective in their assessment of the Pars than many Pars` fans.

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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:18

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red-star-par, Sat 31 Jul 17:14

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buffy, Sat 31 Jul 17:05

Cooooeeeee Sergio 😉 😂 😂


That’s got me in stitches RSP!


Haha, "well helloooo, Buffy...."


😜
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Alan  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:18

Lucky that we weren`t 2 or 3 down in the first half, just like the Partick game. We are so slow at starting games and only show any urgency after going behind in games. Morton looked up for the game today and I thought we looked like a tired team at the end of a long hard season. Apart from our goals we created virtually nothing and I can`t recall Hamilton having a save to make all game. Really disappointed after that display today

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:21

Last season it was points like these that were vital towards our tally to finish 4th. Alot of our performance last season were similar didn`t play well but got at least a share of the spoils.

I would certainly take a point at Cappielow never been a forgiving ground for us. Just need to fine tune and get the points next week and build a good run and not a stop start.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: FRED1981  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:21

Ross Graham hardly played any first team football should never have been in from the start.

F muller
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Topic Originator: OldInnPar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:24

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FRED1981, Sat 31 Jul 17:21

Ross Graham hardly played any first team football should never have been in from the start.


Apart from nearly a full season at Cove last year….
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: nazpar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:26

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Parsfangaz, Sat 31 Jul 16:42

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nazpar, Sat 31 Jul 14:38

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Parsfangaz, Sat 31 Jul 14:35

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nazpar, Sat 31 Jul 14:32

I think we will get beat . bogey ground for us I think 🤔🤔🤔


Bet your great fun at a party !!


Yep the life and soul of every party I go to


All one of them eh


Well how many parties have you been to in the last 18 months . Not many I bet

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:26

Correct Polt, equally though it’s these sorts of results that will cost us if we’re going for top spot.

First game of the season I know but these three points we were playing for will be just as important as any three points at the tail end.

It’s games like these we should be winning.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:30

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FRED1981, Sat 31 Jul 17:21

Ross Graham hardly played any first team football should never have been in from the start.



He was one of the best players in the best teams in the tier below.

I have no issue with him starting, if we're playing 3 at the back his ball progressing skills are vital if we want to play well, one of the reasons we looked so poor is that without Graham striding forward we often had to go long.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:32

Take a point I suppose. Overall it was quite an even game but annoying not to hold on after getting a second half lead. Not sure the keeper could do much about the goal, it was a total fluke with the ball floated unintentionally to a very awkward spot.

That said, I am not happy at all at how we played today. The first half was utterly shocking in just about every possible way, though we did come back into it in the last 5 minutes. Second half was better but some of the more annoying things were just completely bewildering.

The last couple of weeks I`ve mentioned how Dom Thomas has played and today he still looked to take responsibility but just had a total stinker of a game. It just seemed to be a series of misplaced passes from him with even fairly simple balls going wrong. Hopefully just one of those days for him.

Last week I also talked about defending as a team and how important it would be with that setup. Well, the worst thing today was how utterly awful we were at defending as a team. I was absolutely raging at this a number of times, in particular a moment in the second half where Craig Wighton just stood there and allowed his man to walk past him - he then passed and again we just stood there as they broke right through the middle. For me that aspect was so bad as to be unacceptable - we have to defend together and have to do the unglamourous side of the game. There was absolutely none of that today.

There were also similar issues to what we had last season. Mainly, an over-commitment to a short passing game. As we`ve seen a lot recently, when it doesn`t really work there`s nothing there and it just gets shelled long. Also, we`re always looking to play, even before we`ve done the necessary defending. Much of our play just gave me the feeling that we were trying to do too much. There`s nothing wrong with just playing a percentage ball up the line sometimes.

In some ways it was actually not too bad a game, even though I thought both sides were quite poor. Both sides really struggled to retain the ball with moves falling apart all over the place due to an awful attempt at a pass but despite that it was still quite watchable, and of course miles more interesting than our last visit there.

Will take a point after how the first half went, and well done to Josh Edwards for doing so well as to smash that shot in that led to our equaliser. Aside from that, there`s a lot that needs improvement.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 17:50

Good post Socks. Would be a decent site if we had more posters like Socks, RTL and 7 Eleven who knew something about the game, and less like Grant....
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 18:03

Only 850 attendance! That's really poor considering first game of the season and allowed 1500 by the council. Surely could have had a couple of hundred away fans??



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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 18:04

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GG Riva, Sat 31 Jul 16:55

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Kessel, Sat 31 Jul 16:45

Reece Cole should have his contract terminated for that miss. Absolute howler.


You might remember Nisbet missing an open goal from 6 yards in one of his early games for the Pars.

He didn't do too badly after that.....


I never called for Kevin Nisbet to have his contract terminated after that miss. Great effort though at attempting to make a point 👍🏿
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 18:09

First half was absolutely diabolical from Pars point of view. The 2nd half was an improvement but still not great. Bit disappointing considering that Morton are rank rotten and will be battling relegation. PG still needs time to get how way of playing over to them though.
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Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 18:16

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Ladswell_Thistle, Sat 31 Jul 18:03

Only 850 attendance! That's really poor considering first game of the season and allowed 1500 by the council. Surely could have had a couple of hundred away fans??


yeh would easily got those fans behind the goal in the other end no problem, issue for any away fans would they prob would wanted us there at like 11am or something with the ridiculous staggered entrance times some grounds are having to obide by.
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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 18:17

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Kessel, Sat 31 Jul 18:04

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GG Riva, Sat 31 Jul 16:55

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Kessel, Sat 31 Jul 16:45

Reece Cole should have his contract terminated for that miss. Absolute howler.


You might remember Nisbet missing an open goal from 6 yards in one of his early games for the Pars.

He didn't do too badly after that.....


I never called for Kevin Nisbet to have his contract terminated after that miss. Great effort though at attempting to make a point 👍🏿


That doesn't make sense. It bears no relevance to the quoted post.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars.
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 18:18

"Morton are rank rotten and will be battling relegation".

Well we will see how that pans out.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 18:20

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red-star-par, Sat 31 Jul 17:50

Good post Socks. Would be a decent site if we had more posters like Socks, RTL and 7 Eleven who knew something about the game, and less like Grant....




Harsh on our manager.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 18:20

A draw was about right, although a little disappointing having go it front second half. The first half was poor, second better but still work to do. A few players were really off their game; Graham, Thomas and Wighton especially and nobody really stood out although both wing backs I thought did well.

We will get better and we will need to, Cole and Dorrans looked more promising second half and Kennedy looked sharp in his cameo. Breen probably comes in for Graham soonish as he struggled and cost another goal.

Let`s see what Grant says, I doubt he will be too happy with much of that.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 18:32

A league season isn’t made by one game, especially not the first game. An away point is better than a defeat. We’ll have good games and poorer games across the season, the first few games have already shown that. Long, long way to go, so wind your neck in doom mongers out there

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 18:34

Still players to come in by all accounts. Far too early for the pant wetting panic merchants to be out in force.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 18:54

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kozmasrightfoot, Sat 31 Jul 18:34

Still players to come in by all accounts. Far too early for the pant wetting panic merchants to be out in force.


is there ? PG said thru the week that not actively seeking anyone this now
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 18:59

A point a cappielow last season would have been a good result , our first half display was atrocious , second half was better , the amount of times we give the ball away easily is worrying , once Dorrans and Cole settle into their roles we will see a difference and Kennedy should be starting at the expense of one of the front 3 . onwards and upwards

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 19:24

A little disappointing but 2 huge chances missed by Todorov and Cole - if they’d gone in there’d be very little moaning on here.

Playing 3 at the back is risky but allows us to create so much more. I said before the game I’d have played Dorrans in place of Wighton or Todorov and I stick by that - Dorrans, Thomas and Cole in the middle will do me.

Only real issue I have with the formation is that I struggle to see how Kennedy fits into it.

If we create that many chances playing poorly then I’m optimistic.

Andy J
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 19:32

Ladswell I was shocked by that as well considering Kelty had over 1200 at their home game today. Way more than the league average and a really good showing from them. Can see them being able to sustain Pro league football with attendances like that.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Parsfangaz  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 19:43

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nazpar, Sat 31 Jul 17:26

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Parsfangaz, Sat 31 Jul 16:42

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nazpar, Sat 31 Jul 14:38

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Parsfangaz, Sat 31 Jul 14:35

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nazpar, Sat 31 Jul 14:32

I think we will get beat . bogey ground for us I think 🤔🤔🤔


Bet your great fun at a party !!


Yep the life and soul of every party I go to


All one of them eh


Well how many parties have you been to in the last 18 months . Not many I bet


Why have you turned around your totally negative attitude into asking me how many parties I have been at. Not sure if your real or not but I’ll not be replying to your crap again.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Parsfangaz  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 19:45

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Berry, Sat 31 Jul 17:26

Correct Polt, equally though it’s these sorts of results that will cost us if we’re going for top spot.

First game of the season I know but these three points we were playing for will be just as important as any three points at the tail end.

It’s games like these we should be winning.


Correct !!
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Parsfangaz  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 19:51

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gordi-b, Sat 31 Jul 18:59

A point a cappielow last season would have been a good result , our first half display was atrocious , second half was better , the amount of times we give the ball away easily is worrying , once Dorrans and Cole settle into their roles we will see a difference and Kennedy should be starting at the expense of one of the front 3 . onwards and upwards


Agree with this , Think Kennedy offers more scope than Wighton.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 20:03

If that`s true pars207, then we`re royally shafted. Bleak.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 20:20

We`ve got four players recovering from injuries but let`s get some more in. They`ll magically blend in to the team and all will be well. We`ve only played 5 competitive games and most of the new signings haven`t been available for all of them.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 20:23

We don`t need anyone else. I can see one more coming in before the window shuts but the squad is good enough. We just need to find the right formation and get the new signings up to match fitness. This is definitely a squad capable of challenging for the title.

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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 20:30

A bit of perspective. Its the first game of the season in what will be a very competitive league. There will be no easy games. We look better on paper than last season in my view and the hard work on the training ground will pay dividends as time goes on.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 20:38

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kozmasrightfoot, Sat 31 Jul 20:03

If that`s true pars207, then we`re royally shafted. Bleak.


where would you say we need players ?.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 20:45

if one more comes in then one will have to go and im not including Fenton and Todd in that.

a poor game on a surface that looked better than it actually played imo but think overall we deserved something out of it which with so many players not at the races is a positive. the concern as PG says is why that was although it had absolutely nothing to do with the system imo.

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Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 20:49

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GJS93, Sat 31 Jul 20:45

if one more comes in then one will have to go and im not including Fenton and Todd in that.

a poor game on a surface that looked better than it actually played imo but think overall we deserved something out of it which with so many players not at the races is a positive. the concern as PG says is why that was although it had absolutely nothing to do with the system imo.


Agree 100%
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: stevemac  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 20:52

GJS93 wrote:

> if one more comes in then one will have to go and im not
> including Fenton and Todd in that.
>
> a poor game on a surface that looked better than it actually
> played imo but think overall we deserved something out of it
> which with so many players not at the races is a positive. the
> concern as PG says is why that was although it had absolutely
> nothing to do with the system imo.
>
>


Ok then I`ll bite.
I know you like to think you know it all about the Pars. Unless you were there how on Earth can you comment on the park and how it played?

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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 20:56

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stevemac, Sat 31 Jul 20:52

GJS93 wrote:

> if one more comes in then one will have to go and im not
> including Fenton and Todd in that.
>
> a poor game on a surface that looked better than it actually
> played imo but think overall we deserved something out of it
> which with so many players not at the races is a positive. the
> concern as PG says is why that was although it had absolutely
> nothing to do with the system imo.
>


Ok then I`ll bite.
I know you like to think you know it all about the Pars. Unless you were there how on Earth can you comment on the park and how it played?


Im guessing by watching the game and forming a opinion on what he or she could see.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: stevemac  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 20:58

the saline hill puma wrote:

>
Quote:

stevemac, Sat 31 Jul 20:52
>
> GJS93 wrote:
>
> > if one more comes in then one will have to go and im not
> > including Fenton and Todd in that.
> >
> > a poor game on a surface that looked better than it actually
> > played imo but think overall we deserved something out of it
> > which with so many players not at the races is a positive.
> the
> > concern as PG says is why that was although it had absolutely
> > nothing to do with the system imo.
> >
>
>
> Ok then I`ll bite.
> I know you like to think you know it all about the Pars. Unless
> you were there how on Earth can you comment on the park and how
> it played?

>
> Im guessing by watching the game.

So how can watching the game give you that unique insight?
Unless you were there then it`s a p*** poor excuse

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 21:09

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PARS207, Sat 31 Jul 20:49

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GJS93, Sat 31 Jul 20:45

if one more comes in then one will have to go and im not including Fenton and Todd in that.

a poor game on a surface that looked better than it actually played imo but think overall we deserved something out of it which with so many players not at the races is a positive. the concern as PG says is why that was although it had absolutely nothing to do with the system imo.


Agree 100%


Agree we want to see attacking football
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 21:10


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Correct Polt, equally though it’s these sorts of results that will cost us if we’re going for top spot.

First game of the season I know but these three points we were playing for will be just as important as any three points at the tail end.

It’s games like these we should be winning.


Aye i agree with that. We should be winning these games BUT it`s only the start of the campaign. The only real challenge these guy`s have had is St Mirren and Partick. Had a couple of new additions since those games. As i said above hopefully PG and coaches can go over the game and analyse where we could improve as next 2 games are tough ones.

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 21:16

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Kessel, Sat 31 Jul 18:04

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GG Riva, Sat 31 Jul 16:55

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Kessel, Sat 31 Jul 16:45

Reece Cole should have his contract terminated for that miss. Absolute howler.


You might remember Nisbet missing an open goal from 6 yards in one of his early games for the Pars.

He didn't do too badly after that.....


I never called for Kevin Nisbet to have his contract terminated after that miss. Great effort though at attempting to make a point 👍🏿


The point I was making is that missing a sitter doesn't necessarily make someone a poor player. Better players than Nisbet and Cole have missed them. I realise you were exaggerating to get a response in your original post, so I just countered your argument.



Not your average Sunday League player.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 14:15

Allocation 1500 crowd 821, could have quite easily give Pars fans tickets. Raith gave ticket to Hamilton fans yesterday

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 15:04

Like others I despair about the negativity and sense of entitlement of some. While Morton had finished in relegation play off spot last season, with the level of squad turnover these days that does not necessarily mean they will not be competitive this season. We also haven’t won there in our previous eight visits and their commentators (who I thought were very fair) had indicated that they were unlucky to draw to a late Killie equaliser. We were poor for the first 35 mins and Morton deserve credit for their higher tempo and pressing and for dominating that period. However, I thought we came back and controlled the last 5-10 mins of the first half. We were very much better in the second half and played at a higher tempo and largely controlled the game. With a bit of luck we could and probably should have won that. The ball for Todorov’s missed header was I think just slightly behind him and of course the miss near the end was unfortunate. However pleased with the response to get back into the game after a poor start. Although not clear from the stream, reportedly their looping second goal was a deflection. Graham was a bit bullied by Gozie and despite his efforts Dom Thomas had an off day giving away possession too often (especially first half) and over hitting a few corners. However to his credit he kept working away. Thought Dorrans did well in the second half. Wighton was a bit disappointing today and I would have liked to see Kennedy come on earlier. However as others have said - still early days and some players have only recently joined. Let’s hope that next week we don’t start slowly like we did yesterday.

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Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 16:13

Good post Rhino…

We have improved since last year but this team will take time to gel on the pitch. Anyone who thought this was going to be a walk in the park……….It’s not!

“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 17:11

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RhinoPars, Sun 1 Aug 15:04

Like others I despair about the negativity and sense of entitlement of some. While Morton had finished in relegation play off spot last season, with the level of squad turnover these days that does not necessarily mean they will not be competitive this season.



Do you have any idea about Mortons transfer dealings?
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 17:31

From the BBC Sport website :-

Greenock Morton

In: Alan Lithgow, defender (Livingston); Mark Russell, midfielder (Finn Harps); Jack Hamilton, goalkeeper (Dundee); Gozie Ugwu, forward (Raith Rovers).

Out: Sean McGinty, defender (Ayr United); Markus Fjørtoft, defender (Ayr United); Cameron Salkeld, midfielder (Ayr United); Aidan McAdams, goalkeeper (Ayr United); Aidan Nesbitt, midfielder (Falkirk); Craig McGuffie, midfielder (Falkirk); Kalvin Orsi, midfielder (Dumbarton); Rabin Omar, midfielder (Stirling Albion); Chris Millar, midfielder (East Kilbride); Shaun Rodgers, midfielder (East Kilbride); James Wallace, forward (Brora Rangers); Justin Johnson, midfielder; Jamie Butler, goalkeeper; Ben Docherty, defender.

There`s been a bit of an exodus to Ayr, with the David Hopkin connection no doubt influential. From what I saw yesterday Lithgow looks a good signing and Ugwu seems to have matured into a decent player. They seem to have a knack of bringing through young players and aren`t afraid to blood them early.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 18:22

The state folk get in over comments and reactions on a match thread. Virgin like patter .
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 18:39

That`s what a forum`s for. You must agree or you wouldn`t be contributing.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 19:09

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wee eck, Sun 1 Aug 17:31

From the BBC Sport website :-

Greenock Morton

In: Alan Lithgow, defender (Livingston); Mark Russell, midfielder (Finn Harps); Jack Hamilton, goalkeeper (Dundee); Gozie Ugwu, forward (Raith Rovers).

Out: Sean McGinty, defender (Ayr United); Markus Fjørtoft, defender (Ayr United); Cameron Salkeld, midfielder (Ayr United); Aidan McAdams, goalkeeper (Ayr United); Aidan Nesbitt, midfielder (Falkirk); Craig McGuffie, midfielder (Falkirk); Kalvin Orsi, midfielder (Dumbarton); Rabin Omar, midfielder (Stirling Albion); Chris Millar, midfielder (East Kilbride); Shaun Rodgers, midfielder (East Kilbride); James Wallace, forward (Brora Rangers); Justin Johnson, midfielder; Jamie Butler, goalkeeper; Ben Docherty, defender.

There`s been a bit of an exodus to Ayr, with the David Hopkin connection no doubt influential. From what I saw yesterday Lithgow looks a good signing and Ugwu seems to have matured into a decent player. They seem to have a knack of bringing through young players and aren`t afraid to blood them early.



So in short, you have no idea?


What young players are they bringing through that they weren't afraid to blood early? Dunfermline had the 3 youngest players on the park yesterday.

If you think that Morton's bench was youthful it's because they are massively behind on there summer recruitment, there fans reckon they are about 5 players short, it's not through design.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 19:36

What do you mean I have no idea? I was simply reporting the facts of Morton`s comings and goings as per the BBC Sport website.

Buffy actually posted a team sheet provided by Morton which showed that Strapp, McGregor and Hynes of their starting XI came through their youth system as well as five of their subs, including McGrattan who came on and scored the equaliser. It`s no secret that Morton are hard-up. What point is it you`re making exactly? Is this your justification for predicting that they will be relegated?

You`re one of these posters who seems to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of football tactics and formations. You also seem to know every player who`s ever kicked a ball. I`ve always wondered how you can do that and follow one team. And why are you wasting your talents on a fitba` forum?

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 20:18

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wee eck, Sun 1 Aug 19:36

What do you mean I have no idea? I was simply reporting the facts of Morton`s comings and goings as per the BBC Sport website.

Buffy actually posted a team sheet provided by Morton which showed that Strapp, McGregor and Hynes of their starting XI came through their youth system as well as five of their subs, including McGrattan who came on and scored the equaliser. It`s no secret that Morton are hard-up. What point is it you`re making exactly? Is this your justification for predicting that they will be relegated?

You`re one of these posters who seems to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of football tactics and formations. You also seem to know every player who`s ever kicked a ball. I`ve always wondered how you can do that and follow one team. And why are you wasting your talents on a fitba` forum?


I could copy and paste and the transfer dealings of any club, it doesn't mean I have a clue as to whether or not its good business.

My point is they've had a really bad summer transfer window, and it's not like this was coming from a position of strength, they avoided relegation last year through the playoffs. So tripe like "Cappielow is a hard place to go" is a nonsense, Morton are quite rightly one of, if not the favourites for relegation. Still a good few players short (I'd imagine a good bit of there business will come later in the window when the loan window is done), and we were playing on Cappielow when the surface was OK, as we seen last season it will cut up quite badly. How hard Cappielow was in previous seasons had no bearing on the weekends game, Cathkin Park was once a hard place to go but I'd fancy our chances against Third Lanark now.

If we've got aspirations for the title then the result really wasn't that good, and neither was the performance. The hope is that PG has learned that a midfield pairing of Thomas and Dorrans is never going to work and that the shape and personal needs tweaked. Make no mistake about it, play like that against Thistle and we'll be hoping that Brian Graham doesn't fancy it.


I like football so I watch allot of it, read good content and go from there, very simple really. I'm fortunate that I've got a good amount of spare time to pursue it.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 20:27

Excluding the Covid walkover Morton are now unbeaten in their last seven competitive games. As we have seen in this league some managers have managed to put out competitive teams that are difficult to beat even when they may have smaller budgets. Granted Morton are still looking to bring more players in, but while lots of last season’s players have left they either went to Ayr or lower division teams. Three incoming came from Premier League level Teams in Scotland and Ireland and Gozie came in from Raith and gave Graham a hard time on Saturday. They reportedly were unfortunate to only get a draw against title challengers Killie. Remains to be seen who else they can bring in and how they do this season. Unlikely to be top four but they may still often be a hard team to beat on their own patch. My comments were more in frustration at some so keen to write us and our season off after only 20-30 mins of our first league match of the season.
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 20:34

Following on from my earlier comment that Wighton didn’t have his best game, I still see from the highlights that he did well finding space to receive a pass and then played some nice one-twos that drove us directly forward in the buildup to what the late Arthur Montfort would have called a stramash in their box that resulted in the corner that we scored our second from.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 21:07

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Grant, Sun 1 Aug 20:18

Quote:

wee eck, Sun 1 Aug 19:36

What do you mean I have no idea? I was simply reporting the facts of Morton`s comings and goings as per the BBC Sport website.

Buffy actually posted a team sheet provided by Morton which showed that Strapp, McGregor and Hynes of their starting XI came through their youth system as well as five of their subs, including McGrattan who came on and scored the equaliser. It`s no secret that Morton are hard-up. What point is it you`re making exactly? Is this your justification for predicting that they will be relegated?

You`re one of these posters who seems to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of football tactics and formations. You also seem to know every player who`s ever kicked a ball. I`ve always wondered how you can do that and follow one team. And why are you wasting your talents on a fitba` forum?


I could copy and paste and the transfer dealings of any club, it doesn't mean I have a clue as to whether or not its good business.

My point is they've had a really bad summer transfer window, and it's not like this was coming from a position of strength, they avoided relegation last year through the playoffs. So tripe like "Cappielow is a hard place to go" is a nonsense, Morton are quite rightly one of, if not the favourites for relegation. Still a good few players short (I'd imagine a good bit of there business will come later in the window when the loan window is done), and we were playing on Cappielow when the surface was OK, as we seen last season it will cut up quite badly. How hard Cappielow was in previous seasons had no bearing on the weekends game, Cathkin Park was once a hard place to go but I'd fancy our chances against Third Lanark now.

If we've got aspirations for the title then the result really wasn't that good, and neither was the performance. The hope is that PG has learned that a midfield pairing of Thomas and Dorrans is never going to work and that the shape and personal needs tweaked. Make no mistake about it, play like that against Thistle and we'll be hoping that Brian Graham doesn't fancy it.


I like football so I watch allot of it, read good content and go from there, very simple really. I'm fortunate that I've got a good amount of spare time to pursue it.


Is it just me or does anyone else think Grant has a really dismissive way of dealing with the opinions of everyone else on this site. I suspect the reason he is fortunate to have a good amount of spare time to follow football is because he can't get a girlfriend or boyfriend. That's what he is needing to take his mind off all this football, its only a game
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 21:22

I`ve no idea what his personal circumstances are but he certainly values his own opinion above anyone else`s. I`ve done a lot of reading too - enough to know that the possessive pronoun is `their`, not `there`. That`s as relevant as the reference to Cathkin Park and Third Lanark.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 21:25

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red-star-par, Sun 1 Aug 21:07


Is it just me or does anyone else think Grant has a really dismissive way of dealing with the opinions of everyone else on this site. I suspect the reason he is fortunate to have a good amount of spare time to follow football is because he can't get a girlfriend or boyfriend. That's what he is needing to take his mind off all this football, its only a game


The reason why I'm dismissive of you matey is that you're always wrong, whether it's about football or making bizarre guesses at people's personal lives


Don't get me wrong, there will be people out there who are single (and there's absolutely nothing wrong that btw, reflects poorly on you that you reckon that demeans someone) and know more about football than you, it's not exactly an insurmountable task is it? However I'm happily married, but thank you for wondering! Xox

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 21:27

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wee eck, Sun 1 Aug 21:22

I`ve no idea what his personal circumstances are but he certainly values his own opinion above anyone else`s. I`ve done a lot of reading too - enough to know that the possessive pronoun is `their`, not `there`. That`s as relevant as the reference to Cathkin Park and Third Lanark.



Oh I'm absolutely willing to admit that my England, and abuse of it isn't very good.

Probably safe to say if that's all you've got to hit back though with then you can appreciate where you've went wrong, better luck next time.
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Topic Originator: bigdonnie  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 21:47

unlike morton pars got good record v partick always remember john donnelly playing for partick scored og for pars then we signed him was good player

donald mcneil
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 21:53

To be fair to Grant, most people value their own opinion on football ahead of 90+% other posters.

Rightly so in my case, obviously.

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Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 22:01

Trying to have a dig back at another poster and using the 'can't get a bf or gf' line is truly cringe patter
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 22:05

Grant in his own words:-

`Utterly attrocious, this is a team who`ll be battling relegation this season and they`ve absolutely ran over the top of us, we can consider ourselves lucky not to be 3 down. Lineup gave me the fear and it`s been well founded.`

`How we getting into this like? We need to hope the Morton defence implodes like Particks.`

`Tell you what, 36 minutes in and we`re lucky to not be 3 down, haven`t laid a glove on Morton, and we`ve changed nothing. No change in shape, no subs, nothing.`

`And that`s the worst I`ve seen the Pars since we got skelped by Raith, worryingly the complete lack of a competent game plan, and then the nous to change it from Peter Grant doesn`t bode well does it?`

`Brentford take xG very seriously and they`ve went from league 1 to the Premier, because you can notice trends through it. It can help you see whether you`re being unlucky over a couple of games or whether you really need to make big changes etc.`

His analytical skills seemed to desert him in the second half when we got back into the game and probably should have won it.

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Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 22:14

At least he admitted, our short comings.
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 22:28

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wee eck, Sun 1 Aug 22:05

Grant in his own words:-

`Utterly attrocious, this is a team who`ll be battling relegation this season and they`ve absolutely ran over the top of us, we can consider ourselves lucky not to be 3 down. Lineup gave me the fear and it`s been well founded.`

`How we getting into this like? We need to hope the Morton defence implodes like Particks.`

`Tell you what, 36 minutes in and we`re lucky to not be 3 down, haven`t laid a glove on Morton, and we`ve changed nothing. No change in shape, no subs, nothing.`

`And that`s the worst I`ve seen the Pars since we got skelped by Raith, worryingly the complete lack of a competent game plan, and then the nous to change it from Peter Grant doesn`t bode well does it?`

`Brentford take xG very seriously and they`ve went from league 1 to the Premier, because you can notice trends through it. It can help you see whether you`re being unlucky over a couple of games or whether you really need to make big changes etc.`

His analytical skills seemed to desert him in the second half when we got back into the game and probably should have won it.


And do you disagree with any of the comments? I stand by them all.

I was still commenting throughout the second half, I find the train of thought that we should have won the game on the strength or Coles missed chance a bit bizarre. We're putting allot of emphasis on that one chance, while conviently ignoring the chances Morton had throughout the game, including two very good one either side of our goal.

Again, xG would have reflected that.

As you'd expect for our squad strength we improved as Morton dropped of, couldn't keep the intensity and had poor subs in place, you know, because they've had a bad transfer window?!

We brought on Reece Cole, Kai Kennedy and Dan Pybus.

They brought on Reece Lyon, Mark Russel and McGrattan. The difference in quality's between the subs is pretty vast and is one of the reasons why clichés such as "Cappielow is a tough place to go" is a nonsense, if your best player on the bench is Mark Russell then it shouldn't be a tough place to go, and if you are considering it tough are you expecting to get any three points away all season?
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 22:53

You were virtually writing off our team and the manager after about half an hour. Anyone who does that is daft in my opinion. You made no comments in the second half as to why we had more control of the game. Where did I mention Cole`s miss or Cappielow being a `tough place to go` (a cliche I hate)? I don`t remember Mehmet having to make a decent save the whole game. He was beaten by a penalty and a fluke shot.

Like a lot of folk on here you`re happier commenting when things are going wrong than when things are going right. I don`t remember you predicting that we would have the upper hand in the second half because of our superior bench. Anyone can be wise after the event. I can`t see how xG can tell you much after one game, far less during a game.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 22:56

Grant might not be cut out for the diplomatic corps but his opinions on football are hard-headed and usually supported by evidence. As someone who only sees Pars’ highlights, I find Grant’s running comments and summaries amongst the most reliable on the day of a game. In my book he’s right to call out talk of hoodoo grounds and bad playing surfaces as excuse mongering, and I thought the reference to Cathkin Park was quite funny.

Grant isn’t always merciless: he was defending Todorov’s missed header whilst others were full of condemnation. I don’t share his perspective that team formation is so crucial (how the Pars play is more important than what they play) and since it is early days in the PG regime, better not to rush to judgment.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 23:22

"Good post Socks. Would be a decent site if we had more posters like Socks, RTL and 7 Eleven who knew something about the game, and less like Grant...."

That`s quite amusing, mainly because Grant`s views on particular Pars games are generally not too different from my own. Our respective styles are quite different and he`s a lot more forthright than me, but the substance of the points we both make is often quite similar. I like contributors who say it as they see any given game, both good and bad, rather than always needing to put either a positive or negative slant on things.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles  
Date:   Sun 1 Aug 23:51

I find Grant's posts pretty bang on the majority of time, pretty direct but fairly sensible and backed up by facts.
I do think there is a few posters on here who tend to bury their heads in the sand when things aren't going well. Was pretty evident last season.

Awight Pat!
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 02:44

I'd honestly rather read Grants posts than a good few others on here
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 08:23

I didn't anticipate blushing first thing in the morning but here we are.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 08:47

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Grant, Mon 2 Aug 08:23

I didn't anticipate blushing first thing in the morning but here we are.


It's all down to your strict, Scottish Presbyterian upbringing, Grant. It's even harder for you to handle any praise that comes your way than dishing it out. ☺

For what it's worth, I'm another who likes the candid (and sometimes brutal) honesty in your posts. You may not be the most diplomatic, but diplomacy brings its own problems in that it's necessary to present everything in a positive light, even when there's little or no justification for it.



Not your average Sunday League player.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 09:07

Nothing wrong with saying a turds a turd. Football results on day one are mental. Take a point and move on.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 11:02

Seems like a bit of a Grant love-in. No one`s addressed any of the points I raised in my last post though.

I have another couple of questions for him.

Firstly, if I was as passionate about the tactical side of the game I would be getting involved in the running of a team somewhere to put my theories into practice. Have you not considered that?

Secondly, I think you said on another thread that you are based in Wiltshire. How many times would you see the Pars `live` in a normal non-Covid season? I ask that because Socks, who is also interested in the tactical side of the game, has often said how frustrated he has been viewing games on TV or laptop/phone as you can`t get an overview of the pitch to see how the team is set up and responding to the flow of play and what is happening off the ball.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: LEGEND85  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 12:36

I don't think the result on Saturday was all that bad.

First half we did play poorly nothing like the previous games.

Second half was better and I felt at 2-1 we deserved to lead.

The second goal we lost though so frustrating get our and close the boy down instead what looked like a lazy block and it ends up in the net.

Saturday won't be easy but performance wise I'm expecting a bit more control in the game, passing to be better etc.

You really want the first league win as soon as possible.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 12:39

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wee eck, Mon 2 Aug 11:02

Seems like a bit of a Grant love-in. No one`s addressed any of the points I raised in my last post though.

I have another couple of questions for him.

Firstly, if I was as passionate about the tactical side of the game I would be getting involved in the running of a team somewhere to put my theories into practice. Have you not considered that?

Secondly, I think you said on another thread that you are based in Wiltshire. How many times would you see the Pars `live` in a normal non-Covid season? I ask that because Socks, who is also interested in the tactical side of the game, has often said how frustrated he has been viewing games on TV or laptop/phone as you can`t get an overview of the pitch to see how the team is set up and responding to the flow of play and what is happening off the ball.


I considered it briefly and it doesn't interest me in the slightest tbh, I have a stable and secure job that provides for me and my partner, not only that but I love going to the football for the social aspect that comes with it, whether that be with my wife or with mates, you turn that into a job and all of a sudden I'm not having a few pints before the game etc.

When I was younger I used to think I'd love to work within football, now I have a massive respect for anyone that works on a match day and in turn almost sacrifices there match day experience to enhance that of other people.

In a normal season? It depends, since I've lived in Wiltshire there was barely half a season where covid didn't ruin it, I made a few games. When I livedown south I go to Brentford games when they are playing at home/in the south west, which is due to the streaming issue you mention. Moving back upto the Kingdom in a few months though.

I know exactly what post of socks you're referring too because I couldn't have agreed more with it. I mean no disrespect to ParsTv or any streaming service but it can be hard to get a full grasp on the game, and particularly with certain events.

It's negated somewhat when you're watching something on sky etc because they have the resources to show incidents from loads of different angles, obviously we don't have that at this level. However pars fans living out the country have been incredibly fortunate to have regular access to Pars games through ParsTv for what
must be a decade now.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: fcda  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 12:56

Re Grant's posts, he's obviously entitled to his opinion. It would come across better if it was a bit less absolute about opinions if that makes sense. Just adding phrases like "I think", "seems like" or even asking a leading question can sound less opinionated, eg "would 442 work better against this team?"

That combined with the timing of the posts may be the issue. Posting after 20 minutes or so and giving the impression that the game is lost or the season is over (I'm exaggerating) can set the narrative for the game thread.

Just my 2p.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 12:57

I wasn`t suggesting getting involved at a professional level.

I`ll stand by my post of 22:53 last night.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 14:00

"Firstly, if I was as passionate about the tactical side of the game I would be getting involved in the running of a team somewhere to put my theories into practice. Have you not considered that?"

I realise that wasn`t directed to me, but it could just as easily have been since I, as you know, am also interested in the tactical side of football. I`d just say that it`s possible to be interested in something and comment on it without wanting a direct involvement. You and I are interested in politics (though I tend not to go into it very much on a forum or with people I don`t know) but I don`t think either of us put ourselves up as candidates in May. Same principle applies - strong interest and opinions but no desire to become involved.

It`s something you`ve mentioned a number of times before, usually couched in what seems like passive aggression. It seems to genuinely irritate you when fans make critical comments on tactical issues. If you`ve little interest or understanding there`s no problem with that, but in that case would it not be better just to skip past any comments around this? It seems to me that people who dislike hearing the manager criticised for anything tactical rarely address specific points made, but just criticise others for criticising. I just find it puzzling and don`t understand why people do that.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 14:40

Socks, I don`t think I take what`s said on here too seriously. When you think about it a few football supporters with no practical experience of running a football team challenging the decisions of guys who have spent their lives in the professional game is ridiculous. I`m genuinely curious as to how they would fare in practice and how influential they would be, even at a pretty low level. I think that would be easier to do in football than in politics, say.

I remember you taking me to task before about my attitude to critical posts. I just think so many of them are based on such incomplete information as to be virtually worthless. Take the simple matter of team selection. Every week you`ll get folk on here making their own selections or querying the manager`s. The fact that they haven`t seen the players since the last game doesn`t seem to matter yet every coach and player I`ve heard talking about the modern game has stressed the importance of training and that its intensity and competitiveness should match that of an actual game. PG in particular has emphasised a few times how he wants the players competing against each other during the week because it`s a factor in picking his team. We also don`t know what`s going on in players` private lives or whether they`re carrying any injuries.

It would be easy to skip over any posts I didn`t agree with but it would defeat the point of the forium.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 14:51

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wee eck, Mon 2 Aug 12:57

I wasn`t suggesting getting involved at a professional level.

I`ll stand by my post of 22:53 last night.


"it doesn't interest me in the slightest" covers all levels. Saturdays are for football, and in my case I firmly enjoy watching it, I have no desire to become a part of it.

You can stand by your post, I'll stand by mine and we'll be on our merry way, if my posts do bother you so much I'd probably recommend just skipping by them really.

Fwiw I don't "enjoy" posting when things aren't going well, to state the obvious I do quite enjoy Dunfermline winning. I have though found that people tend to discuss the game more if we've lost, or aren't winning due to the fact that people simply have more to talk about. People will usually have an idea as to why we haven't won, as to why we played badly and people go through the hypotheticals of what we maybe should've done, however when we've won the task is done, there's little point discussing what we could've done differently because whatever we done worked. There'll be some discussion on the man of the match but people feel less of a need to dissect a game if we've won. It is what it is.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 15:40

That`s probably another example of how professionals have a different perspective from the punters. I can`t imagine PG saying to the players on a Monday `OK, lads, we`re not going to discuss Saturday`s game because we won`.

Thanks for the advice to skip your posts. That`s the second such recommendation I`ve had today. I`m always interested in what people have to say about the Pars so I`ll probably ignore it.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 16:20

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wee eck, Mon 2 Aug 14:40

Socks, I don`t think I take what`s said on here too seriously. When you think about it a few football supporters with no practical experience of running a football team challenging the decisions of guys who have spent their lives in the professional game is ridiculous. .


Can't say I agree with that at all really.

You're confusing being a football manager with people just analysing the game. Two entirely different things, to analyse a game, say what's happened, what went well and what didn't doesn't require a history of playing professional football. Hence why in allot of backroom staffs at many clubs all over the world you'll have analysists who have absolutely no history of professional football.

To be a football manager though merely just analysing a game is one part of a very complicated job. And even then some managers will be better than others at it.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 16:54

I take your point about the difference between a football manager and an analyst. After half an hour you couldn`t see any way back into the game for us. Fortunately PG did.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 17:06

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wee eck, Mon 2 Aug 16:54

I take your point about the difference between a football manager and an analyst. After half an hour you couldn`t see any way back into the game for us. Fortunately PG did.



Don't remember saying that at all tbh. On the contrary I'm fairly sure that I chucked in what I thought would be good subs.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 17:19

Wee Eck having a complete and utter meltdown IMO. I have to say I find Grant to be pretty much on point with his analysis most of the time.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 17:45

I quoted some of your comments earlier, Grant, but here`s where you seemed to be writing off our chances :-

`Topic Originator: Grant like | nolike
Date: Sat 31 Jul 15:29

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Berry, Sat 31 Jul 15:26
Stay calm folks…when we get into this we have the strikers to bang the goals in.

How we getting into this like?

We need to hope the Morton defence implodes like Particks.`

You did indeed suggest making two or three subs at half-time. PG made his first sub in 63 minutes when it was 1-1 and another two after we went 2-1 up. Reading his post-match comments all he seemed to do to change things was to tell the players at half-time to play with more intensity.

I`m not sure a testimonial from Mr Hyperbole - Sergio Duarte - is a plus.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 18:29

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wee eck, Mon 2 Aug 17:45
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I`m not sure a testimonial from Mr Hyperbole - Sergio Duarte - is a plus.


It was actually, you do seem to be having a dig at quite a few posters, I'm not sure why.

I'm not sure writing off our chances counts if I then give an example of how we'd get back into, before then talking about subs I'd like to see. Admittedly it was a pessimistic post, however I think sometimes posters are quite blasé about getting back into games, the first goal (usually) is quite vital.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 19:12

I don`t understand your last paragraph. I think you need to lighten up and not take yourself so seriously. You`re a punter on a Scottish Championship club`s Football Forum, not God`s gift to football punditry.

I`m away to watch the Ayrshire derby.

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 19:15

I think an apology and an acceptance that people have different opinions would suffice wee eck.
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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 20:01

I didn`t take you for a snowflake, Sergio. Is that the modern terminology?

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 Re: Match Thread:Morton 2-2 Pars. FT
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 20:40

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wee eck, Mon 2 Aug 19:12

I don`t understand your last paragraph. I think you need to lighten up and not take yourself so seriously. You`re a punter on a Scottish Championship club`s Football Forum, not God`s gift to football punditry.

I`m away to watch the Ayrshire derby.



I'm not the one lashing out mate.

Edit-This'll be my last post on this thread, v boring.

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