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 DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: parak obama  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 14:04

29 Deniz Mehmet
2 Aaron Comrie
44 Paul Watson
5 Ross Graham
6 Kyle Macdonald
17 Graham Dorrans
23 Dom Thomas (c)
3 Josh Edwards
28 Reece Cole
7 Kevin O’Hara
10 Nikolay Todorov

Dunfermline Subs:-
9 Craig Wighton
11 Ryan Dow
12 Rhys Breen
13 Vytas Gašpuitis
16 Dan Pybus
18 Paul Allan
1 Owain Fôn Williams (GK)

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 14:08

No Kai Kennedy is a shame.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 14:25

C`mon ye pars!!!

Hoping for a good 3-0 home win today.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 14:28

Seeing Dow on the bench is a great sight.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: davepars  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 14:55

Kennedy maybe not in the squad with one eye on Friday?
Doubt he will be allowed to play

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:00

How do you mean dave? He won`t be able to play for sure, but in any event, having him available on the bench in case he`s needed would be a benefit. Not sure about Graham starting and strange Wighton isn`t starting but we`ll see how it goes.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:03

Very early days but we've started better than last week!
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:07

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Grant, Sat 7 Aug 15:03

Very early days but we've started better than last week!


No we huvnae

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:07

That's jinxed us 🙃
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:08

Brute defending yet again. We need to stop getting caught out.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:08

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Grant, Sat 7 Aug 15:03

Very early days but we've started better than last week!


And despite that we go behind, football eh?

We lost possession in the middle of the park with Dom misplacing a pass, Partick then broke down our right and truthfully I was quite glad we only conceded a corner after Turner found himself in a promising position.

Turner then took the corner with a drilled effort with the Thistle player glancing it in towards the far post, no idea who was meant to be marking him truthfully.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:08

1-0 down already . Another complete car crash of a season ahead . Honestly bored senseless with the game at the minute (football overall).
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:09

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londonparsfan, Sat 7 Aug 15:07

That's jinxed us 🙃




That'll teach me
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:09

Poor poor defending

As I type another corner for Thistle

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:10

This formation is great for routing absolute Diddy teams but anyone can see if they flood our centre mid they will absolutely boss us. So weak
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:10

Bloody ell, mix up between Watson and Comrie nearly led to Rudden having a clear run on goal.

Could do with keeping the head here.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:11

Given away in the middle far too cheaply, slow getting back then absolutely no marking for the corner. Woeful stuff. Cole looks well off it already and there are huge gaps in the middle of the park. At the back? Surely Breen, Gasputin etc. must be better than our current centre half partnership? No communication, no strength, no pace. Hard to be patient when it`s all really obvious stuff and easy to fix.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:12

All over the place defensively. Absolutely all over the place yet again.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:12

Quote:

Grant, Sat 7 Aug 15:09

Quote:

londonparsfan, Sat 7 Aug 15:07

That's jinxed us 🙃




That'll teach me


It's alright mate I've got BTTS to score so an early away goal is never a bad thing. Assuming we come back to win!
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:13

A very simple give and go gives Foster a run down our right, wins a corner. Poor defensively from us.

We cleared that corner, after another bitof Thistle pressure though they have another corner where Thistle then put there header over the bar


If you had corners in your acca you're laughing
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:16

Thomas gets into their box but everyone else is just standing watching him as Partick close him down.

Are they wearing wellies and can`t move?


Mon Pars!

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:19

After that 5 minute headloss after the Thistle goal it's evened back up and we're gaining some more meaningful possession.

There's individual mistakes happening in regards to wrong choice when in the ball, going for flicks that simply aren't on etc.

Dorrans had a crunching tackle there that I didn't know he had in his locker.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:20

9 outfield players just standing watching Thomas not helping him. Shocking. Serious boot up the erse needed.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:21

And we're 2 behind.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:21

Grr.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:21

Ooft- early days but worrying

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:22

Absolutely useless. I know Mehmet will get the blame there but he`ll feel he needs to come because he can`t trust the centre halves. This is absolute pihs. 15 months away from here and that`s what gets served up on our return?

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:22

That's horrendous from the keeper, he's totally and utterly misjudged the flight of the ball, got nowhere near it under no meaningful pressure, leaving the man at the back post with a free header to score.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:22

This is pathetic
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:22

Wtf is going on

Anyone who things mehmet is better than OFW is off their nut

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:22

Free header

I`m awa for my macaroni pie

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:23

This is just appalling.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:23

Managed to find a dodgier keeper than last year, that is quite an achievement.

Dorrans looks way off the pace too.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:25

Aye this has turned pretty bad.

The commentator just said there was no cohesion and he's absolutely correct.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:25

We are utter dross. Peter the pointer will be gone by Christmas . Shockingly bad
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:26

This formation just doesn`t work against decent opposition. All the back 3 look lost and so does mcdonald. This needs sorted pronto or it could get embarrassing.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:27

Woooft that was more like it!

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Swisspar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:28

Shamateurish defending.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:28

We look terrible again, all over the place. He was never the right man for the job.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:29

If I'm being honest, I'm surprised that's not a pen for Partick.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Parsweep  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:30

Thought it was a penalty all day long .
Awful stuff from us

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:31

Yea got away with one there that is a pen all day long
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:32

Murder She Wrote is on the telly; I`m contemplating turning aff the stream if this doesn`t get any better.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: NikNakPar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:33

Awful viewing
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:33

I take full responsibility for this, imagine having the audacity to add us to a league winners accumulator. Urgh
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:33

I'm surprised that Grant has stuck with this formation tbh.

While we beat Partick we could have been 3 down (Which PG has acknowledged) before Particks defence played horrendously and to be fair we capitalised, that surprisingly won't happen often!

Against St Mirren we didn't get a kick

Against Morton we were fairly comprehensively outplayed for the first half...

We've went full AJ in that it's a great formation for absolutely scudding part time teams but we're having a bit of a mare against full time sides.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:34

Just be glad you're not here Buffy this is woeful
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:37

Comrie, McDonald, Thomas all out of position. Dorrans, Cole, Thomas, Graham, Watson, Mehmet look well off it. Formation all over the place. Passing about until the final third then no idea how to get past their defence. Misplaced passes all over the place. No communication between the keeper and the back four. Not tracking runners. Hard to see any positives from this so far tbh.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:37

Boos ringing around EEP. Some game for the German investors to come too.


Peter Grant hasn't came in with allot of goodwill, it really won't take long for that to evaporate.


Mehmet has absolutely lost his head here.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:38

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:39

MEHMET has not caught a ball all game..

Our passing accuracy % must be awful today

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:40

It was a ridiculous appointment . The formation is bordering on kamikaze and the players we have signed are dross. Folk thinking we’d win the league must have been on some very strong drugs which incidentally I would love to get my hands on.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:40

Lucky its only 2-0 could easily be 5 or 6
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:42

I`m always at the coo`s tail when it comes to tickets for things, Chris, so it`s not a surprise I`m no there lol

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:44

oooft nice try for O`Hara

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:45

O'Hara with out first attempt on goal, a good hit from 30 yards but the keeper always had it covered.

42 minutes on the clock.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:46

That's half time and christ was that bad, we had a good opening 5 minutes and a good closing 2 minutes, in between it was an absolute rodgering.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:48

Needs to change formation and a few (being generous) players but the bench doesn`t look like it gives much room for maneuver.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:50

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kelty_par, Sat 7 Aug 15:48

Needs to change formation and a few (being generous) players but the bench doesn`t look like it gives much room for maneuver.


4-4-2 would be the easiest to achieve.

Mcdonald and Cole off, Pybus and Dow on.

Comrie out to right back, Dow at right mid with Thomas on the left, Pybus and Dorrans in the middle.

Won't hold up much hope for that though.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:51

But I thought PG was the messiah reborn according to some on here?

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:53

Thistle are sitting deep and we have no penetration. We also have no defence. Their big men are dwarfing us at corners. I remember wee Joe scoring a second half hat trick for us against Thistle. Who do we have that can do that today?

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:53

Dorrans is having an absolute nightmare in the middle. Not convinced by Graham at the back. Too many touches before he decides what he's going to do. The keeper completely missed the ball for the 2nd goal but absolutely no-one tracked either scorer. Cole has done nothing of note. We're lucky this isn't 0-4. Terrible terrible performance so far.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:54

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 7 Aug 15:51

But I thought PG was the messiah reborn according to some on here?


He gave a couple of snazzy interviews and skelped two part time sides (one of which had to sign amateurs to play us, the other had literally signed about 18 players so were still gelling) and that seemed to really pull people in.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: 1985Par  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:54

We’ve hardly made the partick defenders sweat but I’m really enjoying the backwards and sideways passing.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:55

Have you ever seen a Pars side give away so much possession so easily? The slackness of our passing is beyond comprehension.

As Raymie suggested in the commentary a shift to 442 seems the most obvious first step to recovering this game. Get McDonald off, he is getting mauled by Tiffany and move Comrie out right. Gasputis on please.

On paper, Dorrans and Cole look correct in the centre, but their distribution is shocking. Todorov has been poor upfront, and O`Hara, despite his shot at the end, hasn`t been at his best.

Surely, it can only get better.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:55

At the game and it`s an unbelievably sore watch.
No different to the Crawford days, slow and laboured in build up with a touch of clueless thrown in.
Grant needs to be a miracle worker with this lot or they`re never gonna be up for the challenge.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:57

Why does it always happen this way on these threads - having a dig at posters with a different opinion?

No one is ever going to agree to everything others do.

Can`t we just have a discussion on the match at hand and leave the childish finger pointing stuff out of it.



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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:58

The formation doesn’t work. Thomas is wasted in the centre of midfield, get him back on the wing.

Graham is having another mare.

Those wanting OFW out….you have to be careful what you wish for.

Defensively, really really…really poor. Schoolboy stuff.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 15:58

Grant, based on the Morton game and today is miles out his depth. Square pegs in round holes - not one player gets pass marks.

I can`t believe Kennedy isn`t getting a chance. Is he injured?? He`s got more talent than anyone on the pitch at the moment. I don`t know what Wighton is going to do. The midfield and defence have been rank rotten today, along with the keeper.



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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:01

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OzPar, Sat 7 Aug 15:55
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On paper, Dorrans and Cole look correct in the centre, .


Disagree Oz, on paper it looks a seriously powder puff midfield.

Dorrans didn't well in his spell in the championship with Dundee, while Thistle fans reckon Cole is at his best as a 10 with two players doing his running.


Our squad building regarding centre mid leaves allot to be desired.
Dan Pybus - Derided by other Championship sides, poor on the ball
Dorrans - Poor for Dundee 6 months previously, hasn't really got the legs to play in a 2
Cole - More an attacking mid than an 8, however in this formation we've got Wighton, Kennedy and Dom all ahead of him, an odd signing really.

We've then got Wilson who I rate but sadly is out injured, and we've also tried Dom in there which hasn't worked against fellow full time sides. Grant talked allot about not buying players if there no better than youths, and if I'm being honest Allan looks just as capable as Dorrans currently...
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:02

2 man midfield now? Let`s see how this will go...

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:02

Dom Thomas off for Wighton


I hope I end up with egg on my face but I don't see that being the catalyst for changing this game.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: InschPar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:02

Going by some of the posts on here, the season is lost

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:03

I thought that was a familiar wee voice on the co commentary today... just like his big brother, smooth Italian Stallions!


Thomas off, I think.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:05

Our best bit of play in the game, good play by Wighton sets up Todorov who sends Mcdonald down the right, a teasing low cross is just beyond the outstretched Wighton who had made great ground to get to the back post.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:05

Going to have to direct me to those posts tbh.

Better start to the half but need to score quickly.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:07

A really, really good chance for O'Hara from a Dorrans cut back.


I'm not going to say we're playing well, the last time I said that we absolutely shat the bed, however...
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:14

Cracking effort from Wighton

Mon pars!

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:26

To statr the obvious, if we get a goal you never know what could happen.

But for all we've looked busy, Partick have cottoned on that out main danger is looking for the switch out wide so they've doubled up on the wingbacks, with that you'd have hoped that the wide centre backs would've went for the over/underlap but that's not really happened.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:28

It`s almost like playing one way no matter what allows the opposing manager to set up his team accordingly.

Still half a chance if we get a goal but it has to be pronto.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:34

Can I come out from behind my hands yet?

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:34

Good game management from Partick, they rode the storm at the start of the second half and we haven't looked like getting back into it.


One sub for Dunfermline 75 minutes in.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:35

Quote:

buffy, Sat 7 Aug 16:34

Can I come out from behind my hands yet?


I wouldn't a very frustrating/poor performance.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:35

What was keeper doing there

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:36

3-0 down.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:37

Cole and Dorrans giving nothing in the middle

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Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:38

Alot to be concerned about from the first two games. Woefully out of sorts.

Awight Pat!
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Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:38

Unbelievable. An absolute horror story from beginning to end.

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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:39

Let the good times roll eh.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:39

Don't know what to say really, it's very early days in Peters Grants tenure but all the fears about him being appointed are really coming up.
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Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:39

They are closing us down quickly and we are getting no time. Yet we also seem slow in closing them down. Think our goalie also needs to wake up!! Nothing seems to be going right for us just now.

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Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:39

This is embarrassingly poor
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:40

That should've been four.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:40

At least the ex Pars are ripping it up for Kelty.

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Topic Originator: par-ticular  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:40

Well this will be interesting, what’s the manager going to say that we haven’t heard before from AJ & SC over recent past. Oh btw are our backers still here?
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:41

Dorrans trying his best but Cole doesn`t bring anything to the party , at all.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:42

Next up in the league is Raith away, if we play like we have against St Mirren, Morton and Partick x 2 we'll be in for an absolute thumping.

If that happens don't be surprised or act shocked if there's calls for Grant to go, he needs to wise up quickly.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:43

Hopefully the investors have been doing some scouting.

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:43

I`ll say this for Allan Johnston, he brought in players for a 3-5-2 that worked well in the BetFred Cup but after two or three games in the league where it didn`t work, he changed it. Can you really see Grant changing his "philosophy"? Get defenders who can defend on the park and in their correct positions, play football in the right areas, work hard and create space for the good forward options we have. It`s not hard setting up a team in this league.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:44

Concerning that they seem to have been involved with the appointment of Grant, and backed it.

Stewart Petrie and Montrose have won 2 from 2 in there start to the league...
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:47

The good play and scorelines in the cup matches seems so long ago now.

The difference is chalk and cheese.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:47

Quote:

kelty_par, Sat 7 Aug 16:43

I`ll say this for Allan Johnston, he brought in players for a 3-5-2 that worked well in the BetFred Cup but after two or three games in the league where it didn`t work, he changed it. Can you really see Grant changing his "philosophy"? Get defenders who can defend on the park and in their correct positions, play football in the right areas, work hard and create space for the good forward options we have. It`s not hard setting up a team in this league.


Tbf to Allan Johnstone he changed it at half time against United when we were 1-0 down.
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Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:49

Bottom of the league....at least out league position is reflected in the 2 performances this season

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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:51

How bad must Gasputis be if he can`t get a game? You`d think a giant defender would be major boon but obviously not.

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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:51

That's a bad day at the office for sure.
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Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:52

First time in a long time I’ve left early. That is a shambles. Bottom of the league and clueless.

Terrible last week and got a draw
Terrible this week and pumped.

3-5-2 needs to go
Massive disconnect with Cole/Dorrans and the front line
Thomas hooked again.

Partick knew what we were about and we never changed it up.

Peter said he wants to send fans home happy, well 2 weeks running he ain’t.

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Topic Originator: par-ticular  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 16:55

Will he persist with this system? Hmmm
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:00

Totally out his depth at a club our size. Horrific decision from the board.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:02

I thought that Grant would turn the players into super fit athletes chasing every ball and giving the opposition no time to do anything with the ball. A bit like a low budget Man City or Leeds but clearly not.

Early days though but not much optimism from a lot of fans.

You can`t come into a club with a clear view to play a certain formation with average players. You need to have the ability to change formations to suit who you are playing. He needs to change his mind set and fast.

A long hard season ahead by the looks of it.

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Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:02

What can I say, looking forward to getting back and that as a day was gut wrenching. Fon Williams must be really bad, Graham at the back. Never a footballer. Watson could be ok with someone beside him that knows what he is doing. Comrie and Edwards look lost in this system. Dorans too slow. Thomas has got to play out wide. Cole showed glimpses that he is at least a footballer. McDonald was ok. No service what so ever for the front 2. This system does not work. Very, very disappointing.
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Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:02

I`ll get stick for this but I would bullet Grant now. Majority of fans worried this could be a disaster. We played well against lower league clubs in the cup but have been brutal our first two league games. The formation is dreadful, we`re playing so many players out of position and our defenders look lost which is mental considering we have two defensive coaches. Partick won`t even be one of the stronger teams in the league - they just came up last season and destroyed us without breaking a sweat. How on Earth Ross Graham gets a start ahead of Gasputis is anyone`s guess.

The first home game many have witnessed in a long time and it was a total s***show. The investors must be wondering what the hell they`ve just witnessed

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Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:03

Why have we signed so many defenders when he plays this system?

Vytas must be honking not to get a game. I didn’t even know whatson was playing today!

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Topic Originator: InschPar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:05

Sergio Duarte says:

Totally out of his depth at a club of our size.

Haha, that’s the best one yet 😂😂



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Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:13

That was utter ****.





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Topic Originator: Foghorn Leghorn  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:14

Joint 5th.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:17

one of the worst performances I’ve ever seen. Dreadful.
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Topic Originator: yorkiepar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:21

To be honest I’m not surprised that things aren’t happening yet. A number of players were signed just before the season started - not PG’s fault - and you can’t expect to see a settled team in these circumstances. New manager, new system, new signings ……… we’ve just got to have patience. I still have faith in this side in the longer term.

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Topic Originator: mikey_boy  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:22

Somebody needs to tell Mehmet that it’s only penalty kicks where you need to stay on your line

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Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:25

Williams has got to come back
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Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:27

Aye Mikeyboy and pass backs!!! He just about let that roll in and gave away a corner trying to keep it oot!!!

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Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:27

Two games in and we are second-bottom, already five points behind Thistle, Killie and Inverness and five or more goals behind on goal difference.

And remind me where our next game is???

Rangers at Ibrox?

Oh, that is just super!

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:32

Think we need to mark it as a bad day at office. Comrie who's is usually one of our consistent performers was awful today along with the rest. Worrying thing is we play the rangers next. Not the best game you want after a skelping at home.

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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:33

Still.....good news about the chocolate oranges (Dow is back).

So many worrying points there. OFW has to be back in next game, defence has zero confidence in current goalie you can see; barely communicated at all even outwith the errors.

Centre midfield also a big concern. Cole reminded me of Lee Makel based on that and Dorrans, give him benefit of doubt, is hopefully just short of sharpness as that was miles off the pace.

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Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:40

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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:45

Most of our goals against have been from high balls in to our area Watson couldn’t defend a high ball if he tried and Graham is suffering from it Gasputis and Breen have got to be a better option,surely can’t be any worse

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Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:48

Our keepers seem to somehow get worse every year. Bar Murdoch, we prob haven’t had a good keeper since McGregor.
Defence was an absolute shambles, Graham was an absolute bombscare.
Midfield was non existent. Not a player with pass marks.

Grant has to change it, he doesn’t have the players good enough to play this style. We have 3 of the best wingers in the league but no playing with any.
It could have been 6 or 7 we were that bad.

Ibrox and Starks could be a couple of doings on that form.

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Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 17:51

Absolutely pathetic performance today. All put together by a guy who didn't even apply for the job. Howler of an appointment.

Our new majority shareholders were in attendance today for the first time. Hopefully they've seen enough of this circus already and pull the trigger tonight.
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 18:01

Can anyone tell me why we signed so many duds.

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Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 18:14

Brutal from start to finish……….

We take nothing from that game.

Back 4 we’re nervous right from the kick-off, two bad goals conceded to set pieces.

Midfield - We still don’t have one - everything was getting played out the back through Graham. Was that the plan? If that’s it we are in big trouble.

Forward line - Tried hard with what little service that was on offer.

FFS - We subbed our Captain at HT, I’ve never seen that in a game.

Title challenge - Not a chance.

The honeymoon is over Grant …….. get your finger out and get this sorted.

“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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Topic Originator: rikaka  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 18:15

New season same feeling, hard to watch from the home perspective. Be interesting to hear pg's comments. That was proper ****é
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 18:15

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EEP, Sat 07 Aug 17:40

If we play 3-4-3 against The Rangers I really do fear the game could end up in double figures. They will rip us apart.


He won’t. 5-4-1




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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 18:22

I was surprised that even with an extra man in midfield, we were bossed.
Tiffoney was a threat all first half.
The two goals we lost were very poor. After that, Patrick were able to drop into two deep banks of four and only engage when we came over the half way line.
They were more than happy to give our back three the ball knowing they would do nothing with it.
Bringing Wighton on to play between the lines and McDonald pushing Tiffoney the other way, meant we enjoyed a decent 20 minute spell after half time. It was a spell on which we needed to score. After Partick weathered the storm, there as no way back. The third goal was another poor one to lose.
Losing too many goals and giving up too many chances.
It might be worth going back to basics with a flat back four.
Mehmet and Graham were probably the worst players on the pitch today.
Brannigan ran the show for Partick. Neat and tidy and always available. Graham was his usual handful up front and led the line well




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Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 18:32

Polt I think we were all hoping for a 3-0 win but we got it the wrong way round !
already 5 points adrift and sitting 9th not a good start but I will judge things after the first quarter of games !
I cannot comment on today`s game as I wasn`t there but I already see a common name giving goals away - Ross Graham ! from what I have seen our defense is non existent at the moment and if the system is not working get it changed ! one thing I cannot understand is how Vytas Gašpuitis cannot get a game before Graham or even watson just now is beyond me , PG will have to make a few changes for the Rangers game or we will get slaughtered the way we are giving goals away between friendlies and cup and league games not one game have we kept a clean sheet !

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Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 18:49

Will give Grant and the team the benefit of the doubt but that was genuinely up there with some of the guff from the latter part of the Stephen Kenny era. A disjointed and disorganised shambles.
I'm hoping some of the players are still to settle and that there will be four or five changes for the Raith game especially in defence, midfield and the goalkeeper - Pybus and Gaspuitis must be certainties to start. The current system also needs binned as well as a few posters have mentioned.

Awight Pat!

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Topic Originator: galapar  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 19:02

While i could not make todays game, having read the comments and listened to the managers interview he doesnt see it the same way. This to me is a concern as firstly the keeper had a mare and secondly the formation was never a problem.
I do share the worry of how we set up and our defence is a shambles, a solid keeper should of been a priority but an honest post match assessment is required. Our club needs stability,hopefully this is a blip

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Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 19:42

Horrendous first half from us, and one that showed very effectively that short passing is utterly pointless unless it`s done with a specific purpose. Usually that would be to eventually open up a space, but today that never looked very likely. Despite having the majority of the ball we were comfortably the poorer side. They just allowed us to have it until we got 10 yards past the halfway line, then made sure they were organised defensively in the hope that it would eventually lead to a mistake from us. It worked ridiculously well for them - sooner or later we`d try to do too much with a short pass which would lead to them having space to break. We really were completely hopeless as a team before half time.

Crawford and Johnston both wanted to play nice attacking football and both ultimately failed to make it work in a way that allowed us to be competitive. For both, it meant that they were forced to change from what they`d originally planned to become tighter, and in doing so it led to a lot of really dull games. It`s too early for judgements on the current manager, but so far there are signs that it`s going in a similar direction. Is it possible to be successful at our level, taking into account the abilities of the players, if you don`t have a credible option of being more direct sometimes? Maybe, but I think it`s pretty difficult.

Second half was better and for the first 20 minutes we did OK and did work some decent play. Craig Witghton did well initially and looked to be playing off the two forwards. He had some nice touches and opened up some space for us. Kyle MacDonald also did well to get up and he was unlucky that the brilliant ball he put in right at the start fo the half didn`t lead to a goal. It had so much on it and looked absolutely perfect. As others have said, once we got past that spell without scoring, we became less of a threat and they were able to see out the game without too much bother. I`m not too fussed about the third goal, as that sort of disorganisation can happen when you`re chasing a game late on.

So, was the shape wrong or did we just have too many players having bad games? I`m not sure, but it was interesting that we did briefly go to a back 4 at the end of the game. We`ve been utterly hopeless in the first half two weeks running with players looking isolated in midfield, even though today we had an extra man there. But, with the way that was structured and with the style we are trying to play, there does look to be an issue with how we set up.

Hopefully it`ll come together one day, but it`s been a poor start and improvement must come soon.

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 19:52

Quote:

Angus_W, Sat 7 Aug 18:14

Brutal from start to finish……….

We take nothing from that game.

Back 4 we’re nervous right from the kick-off, two bad goals conceded to set pieces.

Midfield - We still don’t have one - everything was getting played out the back through Graham. Was that the plan? If that’s it we are in big trouble.

Forward line - Tried hard with what little service that was on offer.

FFS - We subbed our Captain at HT, I’ve never seen that in a game.

Title challenge - Not a chance.

The honeymoon is over Grant …….. get your finger out and get this sorted.


I'm not sure if toderov was carrying an injury as he didn't seem to be moving for anything up top. No movement up there stopped us being able to play it forward.

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Parallel Lines  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 19:56

Grant was the wrong appointment. Simple.

I looked for my pet in all the books on animals and birds and then I found it in the Book of Revelations.Marty Feldman
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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 20:08

Board appoint Peter Grant-
90% of fans on here think this is a terrible idea

Peter Grant does a good interview on YouTube -
90% of fans on here now think this is an inspired appointment

Peter Grant gets us through the group stages-
95% of fans are behind Grant

Slight blip v Partick Thistle-
Bedwetters on here = "GRANT OUT!"
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Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 20:12

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red-star-par, Sat 07 Aug 20:08

Board appoint Peter Grant-
90% of fans on here think this is a terrible idea

Peter Grant does a good interview on YouTube -
90% of fans on here now think this is an inspired appointment

Peter Grant gets us through the group stages-
95% of fans are behind Grant

Slight blip v Partick Thistle-
Bedwetters on here = "GRANT OUT!"


Hahaha, so bloody true.
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Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 20:31

Most people said they liked Grants Style the way Alloa played. Well they didn`t win the points that`s why they were relegated.
I`m no longer interested in the style we play as long as we grab 3 points and finally earn promotion. In order for us to achieve that we need to play a damn sight better than we have the last 2 games!

I get the feeling that teams have PG sussed out before we even kick a baw. Myself like others want to see a dramatic change over next 5-6 games if not then there is next to zero chance we will end up in top 4 never mind winning league



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Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 20:58

A lot of people tried to be optimistic about an appointment we never wanted, myself included. Now many are showing their true feelings now that the team have been rotten in their first two games against teams that will be happy with staying up/mid table. I was livid with the appointment but tried to look at the positives (the way Grant talks about football, the way we played in the cup, the signings). My biggest concern was that even against Stenny and Dumbarton we looked calamitous at the back. It`s one thing making mistakes against lower league teams when you`re 3/4 goals up but you will be punished instantly doing it in the championship and above. Every goal we`ve conceded this season has been due to shocking defending and it will keep happening if we continue to play the same way.

Watson was decent last season but looks lost so far this season, Comrie was our player of the year at right back and now he`s being played in the centre. Granted he`s not been terrible but you can tell he`s never a centre back. Graham could turn into a decent player but makes daft mistakes every game he plays. Why Breen or Gasputis didn`t get a chance this week is baffling.

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Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 21:03

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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 21:40

Looking back at recent years Hearts, Utd and Livvy were all direct and physical offset with one or two who could actually play.

Tippy tappy posession based football isn't going to get the job done. Not advocating just lumping it but our best player(s) are wingers - one now being played as a centre mid - so surely we need to play to strengths.

Get the ball up and early out wide, get crosses into the mixer and press high and hard when we don't have the ball.

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Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 21:45

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Topic Originator: 1985Par  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 21:46

Our playing style appears to based on circulating the ball around in front of the oppositions entire team with the aim of eventually picking a route through a well drilled defence/midfield as if we are Barcelona which we clearly aren`t. For all our possession in the first half we created absolutely nothing clear cut. Conversely a fit, strong and organised Partick team, playing a more direct, less pretentious brand of football,scored 3 goals from crosses that we couldn`t defend. Partick defenders appeared quite content to shuffle from side to side with the game being played infront of them and, pick us off when the move inevitably broke down. But for a spell in the second half, we never really got them turning. Perhaps it was just a bad day at the office but i`m just not convinced that this playing style lends itself to the scottish championship and scottish championship players.

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Topic Originator: Roger Daltrey  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 22:01

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EEP, Sat 7 Aug 21:03

Well well one point is we’re feked if PG keeps playing the formation and we play Rangers next Friday live on Tv….. he better not put out a team to embarrass the team and fans… I can easily see an 8-10 goal win!


I mean, wtaf. Bore off. Absolute bed wetter.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 7 Aug 23:42

1985par makes a big point about playing style. I think that misses the main point. It wasn`t our playing style that lost us the game, it was our inability to defend corners. We allowed two Partick players a free header of the ball from a corner. We seemed to have a height disadvantage and it was evident that our tallest defenders were not picking up their tallest attackers at the corners. Kyle Turner was having a field day, lapping up the derision of the fans, walking at snails pace to take the kicks and floating high balls to unmarked team mates. By giving away two easy to defend goals we played right into their hands as they continued to lie back and soak up our toothless attacks.

We just look to weak at the back. We haven`t had anyone as good as Ashcroft, since he left and I wonder why we didn`t make him an offer he couldn`t refuse.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: doctordandruff  
Date:   Sun 8 Aug 00:16

PG got the job cause he plays in a certain way. He is now trapped. The board don't want an Ian McCall so he can't just change it.

Problem is 80% of the teams we play will be like Partick. If you can't cope with that then you are done.
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 8 Aug 00:29

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EEP, Sat 7 Aug 21:45

What we need is our German godfathers to have a 6”5 centre back….a wee nut job cm players who runs about and tackle… pass and a 6”5 forward who can win the ball and play on the ground…


Not 100% certain but I think we'll probably play a different formation at Ibrox against the league champions

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 8 Aug 07:26

"1985par makes a big point about playing style. I think that misses the main point. It wasn`t our playing style that lost us the game, it was our inability to defend corners. We allowed two Partick players a free header of the ball from a corner."

Yes and no. How were the corners conceded? First one was indecisive play leading to trying to create something that wasn`t there in the wrong area with Dorrans trying to find Cole, Cole then not getting back quickly enough and then the defence being all over the place. If we were playing a little more direct (or were "allowed" to) then maybe that initial pass isn`t made and instead the ball is played up the inside right channel for Todarov to run on to. If we had a settled back four would we have had the massive gaps that led to the initial shot being blocked? There`s no excusing the defending of the set pieces though, the first you could maaybe just say fair play but let`s get it sorted the next time but the second and then nearly.a third when the initial corner went too deep but it was then swung in again the same things happened. The way we played also meant that there was little to no chance that we were going to get back into the game because then Partick were quite happy to sit in and let us pass the ball about knowing that the only player who could beat a man and get behind the lines was playing as a deep lying playmaker rather than on the wing where he`s been successful in the past (Thomas). Our main outlet seemed to be Macdonald who was playing ad a wing back but signed as a centre back and for all his effort and occasional good crosses he isn`t going to be able to consistently get past a well drilled defence and make a telling contribution.

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 Re: DAFC v Partick Thistle
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sun 8 Aug 08:17

MacDonald was signed as a right back.
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