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 Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:13

Let the debate begin. All views welcome
Fon Williams
Comrie Gispuitis Watson Edwards
Kennedy Pybus Cole Thomas
Todorov. O’hara
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:19

Drop Graham and Dorrans and replace them with whoever honestly
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:20

Ofw
Ed gaspuitis Watson Comrie

Dow(if fit) Cole pybus Thomas

Ohara todorov

It just dawned on me we really need a defensive midfielder

Effe
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:22

Can,t believe people still put Watson in the team , his defending of high balls is brutal,

G.B
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: d3monstrate  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:24

We need to change defensively, don`t care what else happens, something needs to change at the back as it isn`t working. And that was clear from the first game we played.

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: FRED1981  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:25

Kennedy must be a stick on if he is fit don’t think he would have come here if he wasn’t getting a chance.

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: dpard  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:26

OFW
Watson, Gaspuitis, Breen
Comrie, Dow, Cole, Allan, Edwards
O'Hara, Thomas

Only because I don't see Grant changing formation.

Kennedy for Thomas if he's fit.

The flame still burns

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:27

Why isn't Gaspuitius (can't spell!) getting a game? I realise not all internationalists are necessarily good, but he must be at least passable?
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:33

I'd play 4-2-3-1, if everyone is fit.

Mehmet

Comrie
Gaspuitis
Watson
Edwards

Dorrans
Pybus

Dow
Kennedy
Thomas

Wighton

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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: kba  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:35

Go 442 and use the strengths we have in our full backs and our wingers who are all being played out of position in the 352 formation.
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:38

If we continue with this formation Kennedy, dow and Thomas seem completely wasted. Comrie at cb just seems criminal

Effe
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:39

Quote:

Toddyrov, Fri 13 Aug 21:20



It just dawned on me we really need a defensive midfielder


Been saying it for weeks, it seems we were in for that sort (rumoured to be after McGinn) however it seems PG thinks Dorrans is a defensive mid...
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:41

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:42

OFW

Comrie
Watson
Gasputis
Edwards

Allan
Hopefully a new signing! Cole/Pybus/Dorrans (shudder)

Thomas
Kennedy

Todorov
O`Hara playing behind the Todorov

We have a strong looking team apart from the midfield but unfortunately I can`t see Grant changing formation. No doubt Graham and Dorrans will start again.

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Bod1004  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:46

If he wants to stick to his 343
OFW
Jones Gaspuitus Bremen
Comrie Thomas Cole Edwards
Kennedy Wighton Ohara

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:47

I know he wasn’t brilliant but I thought Wilson looked decent. Is he still injured?
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Bod1004  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:47

Meant Breen, Sorry

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:50

Todorov and O’Hara need punted
Mehmet punted
Graham punted back to Utd
Dorrans and Pybus punted

GRANT PUNTED. I’d actually take a narrow defeat against the rovers next week but I’ll guarantee it’s another thumping.
Grant is out his depth . Far too big a club for him . A specialist in failure .
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:52

yes Wilson is still injured and still out for a few weeks as said by Grant.

"Why isn`t Gaspuitius (can`t spell!) getting a game?"

because Grant wants left footed centre halfs on the left, Graham or Breen, and on the right i presume he wants someone who can come out with the ball and/or has pace which Comrie offers both. its either Gaspuitis or Watson in the middle if it is a 3.

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:53

Todorov and O'Hara? They're one of the few bright spots!
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 21:54

Quote:

Grant, Fri 13 Aug 21:53

Todorov and O'Hara? They're one of the few bright spots!


Sergio fishing as per.
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 22:02

Oh and by the way I think signing Dorrans is a BIG mistake.

Having said that my team for Linoland is….

OFW

Comrie. Gaspuitus. Jones… ! Yes…….Edwards

Dorrans Allan

Dow O’Hara/Thomas. Kennedy

Todorov



That team will get a result……….

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 22:09

Any team without:

Graham and Memhet surely

Probably without Dorrans

Comrie not at centre half


Grant is an absolute clown so who knows how we will set up.
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: evo!  
Date:   Fri 13 Aug 22:14

OFW

Comrie
Edwards
Gaspuitas
Breen


Thomas
?
?
Kennedy

Todorov
Wighton


I honestly cannot begin to pick a central midfield. Don`t feel we have any quality there...Allan and Todd tbh

BEAST!
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 00:14

We really need a holding midfielder, middle of the park is really poor.
I’d go -
Mehmet

Comrie
Edwards
Watson
Gaspuitas

Dorrans
Allan

Kennedy/Dow if Kennedy not fit
O Hara
Thomas

Todorov

However I believe Grant will be not far off same team and formation as tonight.

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 00:37

So Graham is getting a game because he is left footed? That is why I got a game as a ten year old at Primary Level as a left back. I was pretty useless, kicked the ball at my team mates rather than to them, but had a reasonable up the line left foot hoik. Good to know that things have progressed since 1965.

More seriously, two of the best left sided defenders I ever saw, Bobby Moore and Baresi, only used their left foot in emergency. And they could play out of defence. More to the point, Graham might be good enough with a big, strong centre half next to him who attacks the ball, but at the moment he is struggling and losing confidence.

sammer
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 00:42

Personally, I feel we should be ditching the 5 at the back, but we won’t, so hopefully this how we look

Mehmet

Watson-Gaspuitis-Breen

Comrie-Cole-Dorrans-Pybus-Edwards

Todorov-Wighton

I Know There's Gonna Be (Good Times)
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 00:58

10 goals in 3 games. Surely changes at the back and/or formation are a must.

There's no justification for the same team and set up next Friday. None

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 01:02

`There`s no justification for the same team and set up next Friday. None`

Agree absolutely. But there was no justification for it tonight at Ibrox either.

sammer
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 01:03

When was the last time we had a solid centre mid? Josh and Geggan? We have had such a poor middle for years
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 01:07

Quote:

Andrew283, Sat 14 Aug 01:03

When was the last time we had a solid centre mid? Josh and Geggan? We have had such a poor middle for years


Yeah but to be fair that was mostly league 1. And they got slagged on here too.

I'm thinking Paul Smith and Stuart Rafferty.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: parzdaft  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 01:12

work to do Peter...work to do.

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 01:37

Said at the start of the season that 4-2-3-1 was probably our best bet although we needed a defensive midfielder or someone who could sit and take the ball off the back four and start play from deep. No idea why the manager, who has had players sitting doing that for Alloa in the past, decided that the best plan is to pick attacking midfielders and wingers in there and hope for the best. As for his preferred defensive set up, I have no idea why the whole left foot/right foot thing has become a thing in the last 5 years or so. The majority of centre back partnerships over time have had two right footed players and although the game has changed it hasn`t changed that much that you need to have a left footed player on the left
And as for having a ball player at the back, that is all fine and well but defending must come first. Get some clean sheets and build some confidence then you can start being expansive, especially in our league and especially when we need to start strongly if we want to challenge. Anyway...

OFW; Comrie, Gasputis, Breen, Edwards; Allan, Pybus; Dow, Wighton, Thomas; Todarov.

Get Comrie back in his favoured position. Graham needs dropped and if we must go right foot/left foot I`d drop Watson too but that might be a tad harsh. Difficult to pick a middle two. Maybe harsh on O`Hara but he`s a good option to bring off the bench.

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 01:44

Quote:

kelty_par, Sat 14 Aug 01:37

Said at the start of the season that 4-2-3-1 was probably our best bet although we needed a defensive midfielder or someone who could sit and take the ball off the back four and start play from deep. No idea why the manager, who has had players sitting doing that for Alloa in the past, decided that the best plan is to pick attacking midfielders and wingers in there and hope for the best. As for his preferred defensive set up, I have no idea why the whole left foot/right foot thing has become a thing in the last 5 years or so. The majority of centre back partnerships over time have had two right footed players and although the game has changed it hasn`t changed that much that you need to have a left footed player on the left
And as for having a ball player at the back, that is all fine and well but defending must come first. Get some clean sheets and build some confidence then you can start being expansive, especially in our league and especially when we need to start strongly if we want to challenge. Anyway...

OFW; Comrie, Gasputis, Breen, Edwards; Allan, Pybus; Dow, Wighton, Thomas; Todarov.

Get Comrie back in his favoured position. Graham needs dropped and if we must go right foot/left foot I`d drop Watson too but that might be a tad harsh. Difficult to pick a middle two. Maybe harsh on O`Hara but he`s a good option to bring off the bench.


Great post

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 01:58

A sensible post. That team looks a lot harder to beat than what played at Ibrox tonight. But Wighton in midfield? He`s a runner. Not a midfield ball winner or late run merchant. Dorrans might be better albeit he can`t play top level obviously after tonight. Wilson might be the best ballast when fit.

Whatever, Comrie has to go back to right back. Everyone in Dunfermline can see this bar Peter Grant.

sammer
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 02:57

We have also shafted ourselves with the number of defender we have now. Do we throw what we likely don't have at a holding centre mid? Grant has invested very thing into this formation, Breen must either be beyond unfit or terrible if Graham is still getting a game. Keddie, Dowie and Durnan are on par with this guy ffs
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 07:02

OFW

Comrie
Gaspuitas
Jones
Edwards

Pybus
Dorrans

Dow
O Hara
Thomas

Todorov


===
Subs
===
Mehmet
Watson
Breen
Allan
Cole
Kennedy
Wighton

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: delboi  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 07:37

Let the lassies team have a crack

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: evo!  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 08:56

Ok rethought it

OFW

Comrie
Edwards
Gaspuitas
Breen

Thomas
Allan
Dorrans

Kennedy
Dow

Any one of the three strikers up front

Thomas aint a centre mid but he and Allan got some wins together, and Dorrans has been poor but hopefully in a 3 he will work. Gotta get defence sorted and more bodies in the middle needed. Sacrifice 2 strikers v Raith, and hope kennedy and Dow can cause some damage

BEAST!
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 09:28

I`d go:

OFW

Comrie
Watson
Gaspuitus
Edwards

Pybus/Allan
Dorrans

Dow
Wighton
Kennedy

Todorov

Subs: Mehmet, Graham, McDonald, Breen, Cole, Thomas & O`Hara

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 09:54

If we start with mehmet, Graham or Dorrans next week then can kiss another 3 points goodbye. We have far too many defenders now so I fear that PG will persist with this formation which is clearly not working, Friday night get it back to 4-4-2 or a 4-2-3-1, middle of the park is a worry which looks our weakest point IMO
OFW

Comrie
Gasputis
Watson/breen
Edwards

Dow
Allan
Cole
Thomas

O’Hara
Todorov

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 09:57

A bad defeat at home followed by a drubbing away.

8 goals lost.


Whatever happens next week I want to see a reaction from the team.

“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 10:54

Mehmet ,Watson and Graham need outed let’s see what Gasputis and Breen bring to the party .

G.B
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 11:04

While course not happy with current results and performances, only a matter of months ago the previous manager was crucified for playing 4/2/3/1 !!!!

The system he wants to play has pro`s and con`s like all systems, Raith are missing Vaughn which is a big plus as he normally causes problems for us.

Difference now in the league compared to the early league cup games for example is on the right hand side we are not seeing overloads with Azza moving forward to support Kyle, against Partick he was getting the ball and it was all too cautious with no movement. That`s just one example. Last week Partick got the 2 early goals and sat deep, with our front line having very little movement it was easy for them to sit deep and defend.

Personnel wise yes i agree changes are needed, for me Todorov isn`t causing defenders the problems he used to cause our defenders playing against us. Saying that though he at the moment is only real option to lead the attack.

I wouldn`t be surprised to see Dow and Kai start next Friday and play off Todorov, they have the movement and intelligence to find the spaces to get the ball and be a real threat.

At the back, I can see and understand the theory behind Azza playing where he has been, but isn`t working in the league up against big physical forwards defensively.

Not been a big fan of Watson tbh, but he is the most experienced out the defence and will probably play most weeks, that`s why Vytas isnt getting a game imho, as he is fighting for 1 spot against Watson. The suggestion that Vytas cause he is an internationalist should be playing doesn`t wash, we have seen very little of the lad on the park so cant really give genuine honest opinion, and the post about he is unhappy here... well if that`s the case why would any manager play an unhappy player?

I would expect a few changes but say we make 2 changes in the back 3 if stays with the system, then it`s why is he playing those guys when they not played together comments on here !

Everyone isn`t pleased this now, that`s natural, but we all need get behind the team on Friday no matter what

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Steve mcgregor  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 11:05

I would stick with the formation but change the team around.

OFW
GASPUITAS WATSON BREEN
COMRIE EDWARDS
MCDONALD
DOW THOMAS
O’HARA TODOROV
I like the look of the young lad McDonald try him in a defensive midfield role. Guy loves a tackle and we need someone who can win the ball back.
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Sat 14 Aug 11:08

If the team comes out next week with the same formation and mehmet, graham and macdonald starting Ill no be a happy camper.

Effe
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Mon 16 Aug 13:02

Not in midfield sammer, not as such anyway. More of a free role behind Todarov, although his movement would compliment Thomas and allow them to be more fluid and when we had the ball it would be more like a front 4. Call it 4-4-1-1 if you prefer. Still need a defensive minded midfielder to protect the back four though, especially if the full backs are expected to get forward.

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: kechal7  
Date:   Mon 16 Aug 13:29

I can`t believe the number of folk wanting Cole in the team. He gave one of the worst performances I`ve seen in a long time against Thistle, couldn`t pass 2 feet in front of himself!

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 16 Aug 18:31

I would imagine there will be a few changes for Friday. It’s the easiest time for a manager to do it after a couple of poor performances. The players can’t have any complaints




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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle  
Date:   Mon 16 Aug 22:16

To be fair if I was an International player who wasn't getting into a dreadful defence because I wasn't left footed, I would be pretty peeved aswell.

If Skerla thinks he's good then he must be 😁

Get him in the team!



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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Mon 16 Aug 22:39

All I want, is a honest, get in about them performance, with a bit of passion,and desire, for the club and fans.
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Tue 17 Aug 09:00

Can't criticise Gasputis for being unhappy. He should be unhappy, unhappy that he cannot get a game when our central defence is so bad. I would be worried if he was happy!
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Tue 17 Aug 10:12

I'm surprised at the amount of teams OFW and O'Hara are picked in. These were 2 players singled out by many last season for being "not good enough"

East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Connor560  
Date:   Tue 17 Aug 10:39

OFW

Comrie Watson Breen Edwards

Dorrans Pybus

Dow Wighton Thomas

O`Hara

C'mon Ye Pars!
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Tue 17 Aug 21:20

"I`m surprised at the amount of teams OFW and O`Hara are picked in. These were 2 players singled out by many last season for being "not good enough""

O`Hara was singled out by a few fans at the start of the season when he was coming off the bench with 15-20 mins to go expected to make a difference. Now he is finally getting his chance, he has been scoring goals and putting a lot of work in. Perhaps what happened with Shiels made people quite to write him off.

OFW is by far the lesser of two evils at the moment. Mehmet has certainly not impressed when he has played this season. Maybe he`ll come good after a few more game under his belt though?



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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Tue 17 Aug 21:28

Very surprised at the number of people who don’t have Todorov in their team - looks to me like our biggest goal scoring threat.

Andy J
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Tue 17 Aug 21:57

OFW

Comrie
Watson
Graham
Edwards

Dow
Pybus
Dorrans
Thomas

O'Hara
Todorov
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Tue 17 Aug 22:19

OFW

COMRIE GASPUTIS BREEN EDWARDS

DOW DORRANS ALLEN THOMAS

OHARA TODOROV

G.B
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: theparsman1885  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 10:23

Grant will NOT change formation.

OFW
Comrie Jones Gasputis Breen Edwards
Allan Kennedy
Dow Todorov O’Hara

Play that, at least it gives us a chance out of the players we’ve got. But our midfield options are giving me the fear. If we had two top class energetic midfielders then it could work. But we don’t, so I’ve just gone for energy.

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: kba  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 10:31

Regardless of who plays 442 and use our strengths in the squad.
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 10:46

Quote:

theparsman1885, Wed 18 Aug 10:23

Grant will NOT change formation.

OFW
Comrie Jones Gasputis Breen Edwards
Allan Kennedy
Dow Todorov O’Hara

Play that, at least it gives us a chance out of the players we’ve got. But our midfield options are giving me the fear. If we had two top class energetic midfielders then it could work. But we don’t, so I’ve just gone for energy.


So 3 centre halfs who barely know each other and 2 of then been at club for 3 weeks or something, then a midfield central pairing of Allan and Kennedy ??? really lol
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 11:31

If we're going for the 343 then the midfield pairing should probably be Allan and Pybus.

I'd go for a back 5 of
Comrie - Watson - Vytas - Breen - Edwards

With the standard front 3.


One of the reasons why I just find the formation such a bizarre one to hang our hat on is that in Dow, Thomas and Kennedy we probably have the best selection of wingers in the league, yet this formation largely negates them.
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 11:53

It sounds like Grant intends to stick with the same shape, I`d also go with those defenders, but Comrie and Edwards need to be the wingbacks/wide midfielders, if they get pushed back and it becomes a back 5, that means there is so much space down either side of midfield.

I like O`Hara but I think it doesn`t suit him much to come out wide and that will happen a lot playing 3 strikers. So if it is to be 3-4-3 then...

OFW

Watson
Gaspuitus
Breen

Comrie
Dorrans
Pybus
Edwards

Wighton/Kennedy
Dow

Todorov

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 11:54

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Grant, Wed 18 Aug 11:31

If we're going for the 343 then the midfield pairing should probably be Allan and Pybus.

I'd go for a back 5 of
Comrie - Watson - Vytas - Breen - Edwards

With the standard front 3.


One of the reasons why I just find the formation such a bizarre one to hang our hat on is that in Dow, Thomas and Kennedy we probably have the best selection of wingers in the league, yet this formation largely negates them.


I would go with that back line as well

The 3 mentioned there I would have 2 of them in the front 3 forwards playing just behind Todorov when they are fully fit. They will drift into spaces and be hard to pick up.
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Connor560  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 11:59

Wighton gave us a lot more when he came on against Partick but doesn't seem to get a look in on the majority of teams on here

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 12:02

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Connor560, Wed 18 Aug 11:59

Wighton gave us a lot more when he came on against Partick but doesn't seem to get a look in on the majority of teams on here


Very true but majority on here would have you believe that they would have given us a lot more against Partick !!

I like Wighton, think he could be very similar to Moffat so just playing off a main striker.
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: theparsman1885  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 12:17


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Date: Wed 18 Aug 10:46

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theparsman1885, Wed 18 Aug 10:23

Grant will NOT change formation.

OFW
Comrie Jones Gasputis Breen Edwards
Allan Kennedy
Dow Todorov O’Hara

Play that, at least it gives us a chance out of the players we’ve got. But our midfield options are giving me the fear. If we had two top class energetic midfielders then it could work. But we don’t, so I’ve just gone for energy.


So 3 centre halfs who barely know each other and 2 of then been at club for 3 weeks or something, then a midfield central pairing of Allan and Kennedy ??? really lol



I read your drivel earlier in the thread, but you stop short of naming a team.

I and many folk with eyes and a functioning brain would argue that the current back 3 aren’t playing like they know each other. A left footed young lad who is having some horrendous games, a right back unnaturally playing as a centre back and Paul Watson who in my opinion has been hiding throughout. Watch him in a game and if he gets the slightest of knocks or a twinge, he’s hobbling and hiding. He is NOT the answer right now and it speaks volumes that despite his age and career stats, he’s not captain….

As for the midfield two, who would you suggest? Other options include

- Dom thomas, a winger and also posted missing v Thistle
- Graham Dorrans, culpable for 4 of the 8 goals we’ve conceded in the last 2 games, and I’m being kind
- Dan Pybus who if you read any of the objective reports from the last few games has also been hiding away and not offering anything
- Ryan Dow - a waste and also, a winger.

What’s your educated thoughts then, let’s see a team to compare and I’ll happily rip that to shreds too. 😉

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 12:29

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theparsman1885, Wed 18 Aug 12:17

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Date: Wed 18 Aug 10:46

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theparsman1885, Wed 18 Aug 10:23

Grant will NOT change formation.

OFW
Comrie Jones Gasputis Breen Edwards
Allan Kennedy
Dow Todorov O’Hara

Play that, at least it gives us a chance out of the players we’ve got. But our midfield options are giving me the fear. If we had two top class energetic midfielders then it could work. But we don’t, so I’ve just gone for energy.


So 3 centre halfs who barely know each other and 2 of then been at club for 3 weeks or something, then a midfield central pairing of Allan and Kennedy ??? really lol



I read your drivel earlier in the thread, but you stop short of naming a team.

I and many folk with eyes and a functioning brain would argue that the current back 3 aren’t playing like they know each other. A left footed young lad who is having some horrendous games, a right back unnaturally playing as a centre back and Paul Watson who in my opinion has been hiding throughout. Watch him in a game and if he gets the slightest of knocks or a twinge, he’s hobbling and hiding. He is NOT the answer right now and it speaks volumes that despite his age and career stats, he’s not captain….

As for the midfield two, who would you suggest? Other options include

- Dom thomas, a winger and also posted missing v Thistle
- Graham Dorrans, culpable for 4 of the 8 goals we’ve conceded in the last 2 games, and I’m being kind
- Dan Pybus who if you read any of the objective reports from the last few games has also been hiding away and not offering anything
- Ryan Dow - a waste and also, a winger.

What’s your educated thoughts then, let’s see a team to compare and I’ll happily rip that to shreds too. 😉


Read my drivel eh lol yet your wanting Kai Kennedgy to be playing centre midfield !!
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Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 12:36

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PARS207, Wed 18 Aug 12:29

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theparsman1885, Wed 18 Aug 12:17

Posted from the Android app Topic Originator: PARS207
Date: Wed 18 Aug 10:46

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theparsman1885, Wed 18 Aug 10:23

Grant will NOT change formation.

OFW
Comrie Jones Gasputis Breen Edwards
Allan Kennedy
Dow Todorov O’Hara

Play that, at least it gives us a chance out of the players we’ve got. But our midfield options are giving me the fear. If we had two top class energetic midfielders then it could work. But we don’t, so I’ve just gone for energy.


So 3 centre halfs who barely know each other and 2 of then been at club for 3 weeks or something, then a midfield central pairing of Allan and Kennedy ??? really lol



I read your drivel earlier in the thread, but you stop short of naming a team.

I and many folk with eyes and a functioning brain would argue that the current back 3 aren’t playing like they know each other. A left footed young lad who is having some horrendous games, a right back unnaturally playing as a centre back and Paul Watson who in my opinion has been hiding throughout. Watch him in a game and if he gets the slightest of knocks or a twinge, he’s hobbling and hiding. He is NOT the answer right now and it speaks volumes that despite his age and career stats, he’s not captain….

As for the midfield two, who would you suggest? Other options include

- Dom thomas, a winger and also posted missing v Thistle
- Graham Dorrans, culpable for 4 of the 8 goals we’ve conceded in the last 2 games, and I’m being kind
- Dan Pybus who if you read any of the objective reports from the last few games has also been hiding away and not offering anything
- Ryan Dow - a waste and also, a winger.

What’s your educated thoughts then, let’s see a team to compare and I’ll happily rip that to shreds too. 😉[/quote

Read my drivel eh lol yet your wanting Kai Kennedgy to be playing centre midfield !!


Some of your points are very valid, course they are, a broken clock is rite twice a day as they say lol

But got better things to do today than get in long winded disagreement with someone who has pre conceived ideas on recent decisions at the club without having patience and giving things a chance.
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: theparsman1885  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 14:01

So busy you posted twice with a couple of tear soaked paragraphs over 7 minutes? But not enough time to write 11 names to counter my thoughts with a reasoned team selection? 😂

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 15:30

Neither Dom Thomas or Ryan Dow should be playing in the 2 Central midfield places. They could well (as well as Kai Kennedy) play as the 10 though, however that's where Wighton is also best IMO.

For central midfield we have Dorrans, Pybus, Cole and Allan.

On those, and this is only my opinion...

Dorrans - Meant to be the one sitting deepest and receiving the ball to then progress the ball up the pitch, however I've not seen much of that in his time, outwith that long ball against Morton he hasn't shown much quality IMO...

Pybus - Seen very little of him, so my opinion of him comes mainly from Qots which is. Works hard, runs around allot, awful quality on the ball however he was quite adapt at winning it back, a poor man's Andy Geggan, definitely not an attacking midfielder.

Cole- I think he has quality on the ball, certainly has quality from set pieces, however I don't see him working in a midfield two, at all. He migh work as a cam in a 4231, or even as the most advanced midfielder with little defensive responsibilities in a 433, in a two though? Doubtful.

Allan - I quite liked the little I saw of him, seemed to do Dorrans job in coming deep and receiving the ball, seemed happy to put a foot in as well, had a good assist v Partick. Not sure how he's dropped out of the reckoning so much.


You obviously don't see what happens in training, and I reckon it's very plausible that Cole and Dorrans look absolutely sick in training, especially in small sided games, however I don't know how well they work playing in a two, they certainly don't work as a pairing! Dorrans might get by if he's got someone more energetic next to him? Pybus or Allan might be the shout there.

I think Wilson is our best cm, how much of that is due to his absence and fond memories is up for debate, but he's capable of playing within a two.
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Topic Originator: Stand Up  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 15:41

I think he will stick with the 3-4-3. After all the criticism I reckon Grant won’t want to be seen to cave in.

He might even just put out the same team as the Rangers game to give them a chance at redemption.

I’d go back to what the players seem to know with a with a 4-4-2.

Not been impressed with the new keeper so back to OFW for me. At the back I’d go with Comrie and Edwards playing in their best positions and probably Watson and Gasputis in the centre. This might be too adventurous and be an option if we need to attack at end of the game but I’d go Kennedy and Dorrans in middle of park with Dow and Thomas in a Diamond with Kennedy in front and Dorrans sitting. (Alternative is Kennedy out wide instead of Dow but I’m not sure who else I’d pick in the middle! Ideally it would be Wilson) Tough up front but I’d go todorov and Wigton/O’Hara. either good off the bench so could be either.

Whatever the formation I just hope it’s not agony viewing on Friday night!

COYP

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 15:58

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theparsman1885, Wed 18 Aug 14:01

So busy you posted twice with a couple of tear soaked paragraphs over 7 minutes? But not enough time to write 11 names to counter my thoughts with a reasoned team selection? 😂


it's called being on a lunch break !!

reasoned .... yeh can see your posts are all that !
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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 17:14

This is what i expect PG to go with.....

OFW
Comrie
Vytas
Watson
Breen
Edwards
Dorrans
Pybus/Cole
O`Hara
Todorov
Kennedy if fit or Dow

Cant see them dropping the 2 most experienced players (though least 1 should be), but you never know, might not be what I would pick personally but that`s what i would imagine we will see. Depends how fit Kennedy is, wont know till Friday i guess.

Midfield am not sure we have a natural pairing , bit like last season. Would like to see Paul Allan get more game time but doubt that will happen.

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Topic Originator: theparsman1885  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 18:52

Topic Originator: PARS207 like | nolike - 1
Date: Wed 18 Aug 15:58
it`s called being on a lunch break !!
reasoned .... yeh can see your posts are all that !

How can you make a wee jibe about reasoned posts yet only a few wee hours earlier had said….

“ Some of your points are very valid, course they are, a broken clock is rite twice a day as they say lol”

Love a contradiction or two don’t you!? I gave reasoning in my team selection and subsequent posts, which you’ve ignored. You talk about preconceived ideas, yet you’ve let my view that PG should not have been appointed and should be removed ASAP, cloud your judgement of my thoughts on the team. I’d love PG to be successful btw, but so far it’s no happening. Sadly.

As for your team you’ve selected, that midfield will, yet again, get rinsed because there is ZERO energy or presence in there. Dorrans should not be anywhere near the team right now and I fear we have a real problem even when Wilson is fit - midfield being our Achilles heel for far far too long.

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Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 19:01

oh sorry if my reply didn`t meet the requirements you desired! got better things to do than getting into a debate with muppets.

Not the team i have selected, thats the team i think PG will go with on Friday.

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Topic Originator: theparsman1885  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 19:09

Get abusive all you want, you’re continuing to reply so maybe you’ve found your own level….? I asked you for your thoughts. How about the team that you’d pick?

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: PARSpars  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 19:14

keep fishing pal!!

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Topic Originator: theparsman1885  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 19:32

In what way am I fishing? You started the negativity and insults on my posts, all I’m asking for what team YOU would pick?

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 20:51

Christ you two are making me and Berkey look like amateurs. What a pair o lassies!

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 21:04

Nice touch of misogyny there 😂

I can’t believe you saying the last decent midfield pairing included Stuart Rafferty! How can u miss Robertson and French? Disgusting!

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Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 22:12

Or Bell-phinn, Geggan-Josh etc
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Topic Originator: Connor560  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 22:27

Mason and Darren Young

C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 23:27

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Andrew283, Wed 18 Aug 22:12

Or Bell-phinn, Geggan-Josh etc




Geggan-Josh for me is an example of how different managers can bring on players, in the season we finished 7th in league one it seemed Josh couldn't play in centre mid, that Geggan and Josh couldn't play as a 2 together...

Then AJ takes over and they absolutely skoosh it.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885  
Date:   Wed 18 Aug 23:51

Grant wrote:

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Andrew283, Wed 18 Aug 22:12
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> Or Bell-phinn, Geggan-Josh etc

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> Geggan-Josh for me is an example of how different managers can
> bring on players, in the season we finished 7th in league one
> it seemed Josh couldn't play in centre mid, that Geggan and
> Josh couldn't play as a 2 together...
>
> Then AJ takes over and they absolutely skoosh it.

Which made his decision not to keep Josh on for the Championship even more questionable.

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 Re: Team v Raith
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Fri 20 Aug 13:37

Raith drifting like a barge, 2.0 - 2.4. Suggests their injury doubts aren’t playing

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Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Fri 20 Aug 19:20

Well I never saw that coming
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