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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:03
Been sacked or left!!
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:05
The wording on the statement advising his employment has been terminated certainly suggests a fall out or sacking.
Gies a statement
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:07
Not a surprise given what has done the rounds on here not that long ago.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:13
Wonder what has went on here...
No real lose he`s not been great this season! Mark seems a much better CB
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:15
Pity, thought he was a steady centre-back at this level.
Gasputis could have a knee/calf problem, so could have been back up if the big man fails to make the next game?
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:15
Almost certainly been a major fallout here. Very cold statement. No thanks for his efforts or anything. Willo Flood can barely have finished a training session with us, but he got a nicer send-off from the club.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:19
Statement wise the club are clearly going with the tactic of saying the minimum rather than saying more than is required.
At least polish it up a bit.
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:20
Depends what happened they maybe can't give too much away for legal reasons or something.
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:27
Guaranteed to sign for somebody in the league and bit us in the bottom .
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:28
I remember one post-match interview with Watson on COWS which didn`t sit right and suggested all was not well but he did play after that so something else must have happened. Compliance with employment law has probably delayed the formal parting of the ways.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:31
Quote:
Connor560, Tue 19 Oct 17:20
Depends what happened they maybe can't give too much away for legal reasons or something.
I’d imagine that’s the case. The abrupt statement kind of tells a story. Lack of thanks and lack of wishing him well in the future strongly suggests that he has left on very poor terms.
I don’t want to start speculating about what he has/hasn’t done, but I’d imagine that a disciplinary process and/or formal process to terminate the contract commenced after the Hamilton game, which is why he hasn’t been seen since and we brought in Connolly very suddenly. Timings would seem about right for that sort of scenario. That’s pure speculation though. Only thing we know is that it was confirmed he wasn’t unavailable through injury.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:32
No surprise after his interview a few weeks back just surprised it did not happen sooner.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: AJ27
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:39
I’m sure this will quickly be removed but his Wikipedia page has been updated today and includes a version of what he supposedly said to Peter Grant.
For me Connolly is a considerable upgrade and hopefully Rhys Breen will do well now he is fit.
Andy J
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:42
I kinda worry about our reputation with regards to playing staff. That`s effectively 2 issues that have affected us in the past 12 months. Kyle Turner and now Paul Watson. I don`t want to know the in`s and outs but i do want our club to been seen as a good place to work which would attract players. Things of this nature don`t help although I am well aware that these things do and can happen at other clubs.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:44
Quote:
AJ27, Tue 19 Oct 17:39
I’m sure this will quickly be removed but his Wikipedia page has been updated today and includes a version of what he supposedly said to Peter Grant.
For me Connolly is a considerable upgrade and hopefully Rhys Breen will do well now he is fit.
I think it has been removed. Please can you paraphrase what it said?
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:47
Topic Originator: Polt like | nolike
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:42
I kinda worry about our reputation with regards to playing staff. That`s effectively 2 issues that have affected us in the past 12 months. Kyle Turner and now Paul Watson. I don`t want to know the in`s and outs but i do want our club to been seen as a good place to work which would attract players. Things of this nature don`t help although I am well aware that these things do and can happen at other clubs.
...the way Fais, Cardle, Falkingham all left.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:49
^^ very different situations and the blame there was with the manager and how he did things.
if you believe it or not.....on the bounce forum, Watson allegedly went on holiday abroad during the international break after the club said not to, that doesnt tie in with missing the Raith and QOS games before the break though.
Post Edited (Tue 19 Oct 17:52)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:51
Why do you assume the club`s at fault, Polt?
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Topic Originator: Pars232
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:57
Quote:
neilholland999, Tue 19 Oct 17:44
Quote:
AJ27, Tue 19 Oct 17:39
I’m sure this will quickly be removed but his Wikipedia page has been updated today and includes a version of what he supposedly said to Peter Grant.
For me Connolly is a considerable upgrade and hopefully Rhys Breen will do well now he is fit.
I think it has been removed. Please can you paraphrase what it said?
On the 19th Oct 2021, Dunfermline announced the termination of his contract after he told current manager PG to crawl up his own bottom and pass away
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Topic Originator: AJ27
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:58
Hit the View History link on Wikipedia and see the entry at 16.17
Andy J
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 19 Oct 18:20
Sad for all involved with the Club if true .. But no place for that in any form of employment
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 19 Oct 18:24
Quote:
GJS93, Tue 19 Oct 17:49
^^ very different situations and the blame there was with the manager and how he did things.
if you believe it or not.....on the bounce forum, Watson allegedly went on holiday abroad during the international break after the club said not to, that doesnt tie in with missing the Raith and QOS games before the break though.
I'd heard something along those lines but a bit worse up the town on Saturday
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Tue 19 Oct 18:24)
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Tue 19 Oct 18:26
opic Originator: Polt like | nolike Like: 1
Date: Tue 19 Oct 17:42
I kinda worry about our reputation with regards to playing staff. That`s effectively 2 issues that have affected us in the past 12 months. Kyle Turner and now Paul Watson. I don`t want to know the in`s and outs but i do want our club to been seen as a good place to work which would attract players. Things of this nature don`t help although I am well aware that these things do and can happen at other clubs.
I think the same. It’s all bad press at the minute. Not a great look for the club regardless of whose fault it is.
Post Edited (Tue 19 Oct 18:27)
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Tue 19 Oct 18:42
I don`t blame the club wee eck. I don`t know what has happened in either the Kyle Turner or this situation. Regardless what or who is to blame it is damaging to our club. I am sure in footballing circles there will be more knowledge (player`s, manager`s, board members talking to other players, manager`s Board members etc)
Many times I have refused to go for a job because of a toxic environment, i even refused a transfer to another department based on my knowledge of a single team member creating issues. Both these create a damage to reputation regardless what level the "Brand" takes a hit on reputation.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 19 Oct 18:42
If players can't behave and follow club rules then they should rightly be told to GTF.
If I broke the rules at work I'd be reprimanded or sacked. No player is bigger than the club.
I'd be more worried if our reputation was that we let players do what they like.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 19 Oct 18:46
spot on jake
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Tue 19 Oct 18:47
……..C’est la vie.
We are well covered for CH. Connolly + Vitas will take a bit of shifting.
Unless we know the full facts we can’t judge.
He’s gone … move on.
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 19 Oct 18:50
jake89 nails it
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 19 Oct 18:52
If he’s breached his terms of his employment, or the code of conduct, he should be dealt with appropriately. If the breach was serious enough, then the club have dealt with things correctly. It’s clearly more than a simple falling out with the manager, for this action to be taken.
Don’t think this is something the club should be criticised for, particularly without knowing all the facts - I’d imagine most here (including me) won’t.
As for the Turner comment, Kyle Turner fell out with the manager, or someone at the club, but didn’t have his contract terminated. Situations like that happen in football all the time and I don’t think that’s any sort of indication of the club being particularly poorly run/players not being treated well.
Post Edited (Tue 19 Oct 18:52)
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Topic Originator: Jacko Par42
Date: Tue 19 Oct 19:03
Taken from the Dunfy Press’s report on Facebook
Not sure if there is any substance to this report
This term, Watson played in all four of Dunfermline`s Premier Sports Cup group matches, and in the last 16 exit at Rangers, and in their opening six Championship fixtures, starting all of them.
After the 3-0 loss to Arbroath, Watson was quoted as saying that the opposition "outfought us", and said that "we were just all over the place really. I think that was clear to see."
He was absent for the 1-1 draw at Raith Rovers in last month`s rescheduled Fife derby, after which Grant was asked about his absence, to which he said: "He`s just not available for tonight`s game.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 19 Oct 19:08
While what Jake says is true, there's no proof if that is the case here.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 19 Oct 19:29
Quote:
DBA, Tue 19 Oct 19:08
While what Jake says is true, there's no proof if that is the case here.
Yes. There is also no proof the club did anything wrong either. Won't stop the .net jury delivering its verdict tho.
I've now heard the same version of events from 3 different people. One of them involved with a top flight club. We are well rid.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Tue 19 Oct 19:39
It ain`t a witch hunt. Doesn`t matter who is at fault in either of the 2 players that left. It is about the Club, they have a reputation to uphold. The clubs reputation at the present moment is probably low as it got pre administration levels. That is the point I wanted to get across.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Tue 19 Oct 19:45
I was friends with a lower league footballer, and paying them off is unsurprisingly not cheap. Due to the timing of this Watson can't sign for another club so his payoff wouldn't have been cheap, the only way we're doing that is if he's culpable and has broken disciplinery.
And from what he was saying this isn't on the club, and it's not on PG.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 19 Oct 19:48
Quote:
DBA, Tue 19 Oct 19:08
While what Jake says is true, there's no proof if that is the case here.
Quite true.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Tue 19 Oct 20:03
Quote:
Grant, Tue 19 Oct 19:45
I was friends with a lower league footballer, and paying them off is unsurprisingly not cheap. Due to the timing of this Watson can't sign for another club so his payoff wouldn't have been cheap, the only way we're doing that is if he's culpable and has broken disciplinery.
And from what he was saying this isn't on the club, and it's not on PG.
It might have been a breach of contract described as "mutual" in the public release. We will likely never find out.
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Topic Originator: mikey_boy
Date: Tue 19 Oct 20:27
Who needs to go on holiday after 6 games in a season? If you are bottom of the league you should be expecting double sessions during any international break.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Tue 19 Oct 20:49
There seems to be something worryingly wrong at the club at the moment. I just hope it can be fixed sooner rather than later as we`ve looked nowhere near winning a game so far in the league this season. Very strange outcome with Watson as I cannot recall him having any issues at any other club he`s been at. Hopefully Saturday ends up being one of these games where we expect a pumping but come away with a surprise result.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Tue 19 Oct 20:54
He had issues at Dundee United too.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Tue 19 Oct 21:10
Quote:
RossF, Tue 19 Oct 20:49
There seems to be something worryingly wrong at the club at the moment.
If what I've heard is correct, and the player has no reason to lie, this doesn't reflect badly on the club.
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Topic Originator: BA
Date: Tue 19 Oct 21:14
This forum could give you whiplash! People have been absolutely slating PG for months, then a player (apparently) basically tells PG what many of you have been saying/thinking and he’s being hounded out and told to GTF 😂.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 19 Oct 21:22
What’ve you heard Grant? Obviously you don’t have to divulge but…if you don’t ask….
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 19 Oct 21:32
Quote:
BA, Tue 19 Oct 21:14
This forum could give you whiplash! People have been absolutely slating PG for months, then a player (apparently) basically tells PG what many of you have been saying/thinking and he’s being hounded out and told to GTF 😂.
Except none of this drivel is true
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Tue 19 Oct 21:47
[Post Deleted] - Reported as abusive
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 19 Oct 21:52
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Tue 19 Oct 21:47
Peter grant is a cancer who needs cut out immediately
Back in the sea for you lad....
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Tue 19 Oct 21:52
Some players have huge ego's. No player is bigger than the club.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 19 Oct 21:59
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Tue 19 Oct 21:47
Peter grant is a cancer who needs cut out immediately
That’s a vile thing to say, about anyone. Completely unwarranted.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Tue 19 Oct 22:13
This is one area where Peter Grant`s experience cannot be questioned. He gave evidence at an industrial tribunal against Celtic manager Lou Macari in 1997.
‘’In evidence to Lady Cosgrove, Mr McCann had said that senior players had complained that they had little confidence in Mr Macari. He could not remember who, but he thought they were Paul McStay, Pat Bonner, Charlie Nicholas and Peter Grant.’’
and
‘’THE Celtic footballer, Peter Grant, told a court yesterday that he had lost respect for Lou Macari before he was dismissed as the club`s manager.
Grant, 31, said the "final straw" for him came after a 4-2 defeat for Celtic in a New Year`s Day Old Firm clash at Parkhead in 1994 and the players did not see the manager until later the following week.
As he gave evidence on the eleventh day of an action at the Court of Session in Edinburgh between Mr Macari and Celtic, the player said he felt that, in the midst of the boardroom upheavals at the club, the manager had failed to provide the support needed.
Grant, who has played under five managers during his 14-year career at Parkhead, said Mr Macari`s style of management during his eight months in charge of Celtic was different to the others.’’
sammer
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 19 Oct 22:14
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Tue 19 Oct 21:47
Peter grant is a cancer who needs cut out immediately
Very poor choice of words. Get it deleted and apologise. We have Pars fans who are having to deal with cancer
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Tue 19 Oct 22:15)
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Tue 19 Oct 22:24
☝️
As one of those, Poor fvckin choice of words, d1ckhead
Post Edited (Tue 19 Oct 22:30)
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 19 Oct 22:25
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Tue 19 Oct 21:47
Peter grant is a cancer who needs cut out immediately
As others have said, get a grip. Comments like that are totally out of order. Whether you rate him as a manager or not, you can’t be going around describing people as a cancer. Disgusting comment.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Tue 19 Oct 22:36
Quote:
Berry, Tue 19 Oct 21:22
What’ve you heard Grant? Obviously you don’t have to divulge but…if you don’t ask….
He reckons that the player went on holiday, and then in turn breached the clubs covid bubble, while blagging an illness to get on said holiday.
I don't think that puts off future players.
Post Edited (Tue 19 Oct 22:51)
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Tue 19 Oct 22:58
If that's true his payoff will be zero!
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Tue 19 Oct 23:21
[Post Deleted] - Utter Bollocks
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 19 Oct 23:25
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Tue 19 Oct 21:47
Peter grant is a cancer who needs cut out immediately
Sorry but to me that's an instant blsck card.
Post Edited (Wed 20 Oct 09:29)
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Topic Originator: dave67
Date: Tue 19 Oct 23:43
Give him time to apologise PARrot
Let`s try making it till Christmas
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 20 Oct 06:57
I have it from a 100% reliable source that Watson phoned the club and told them he had Covid, knowing full well he'd be told to stay away. He then jumped on a plane to Portugal with some mates. By doing this he compromised the Pars Covid bubble.
Selfish, unprofessional, irresponsible. He obviously believes he's smarter than the average footballer. Good riddance.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Wed 20 Oct 08:02
^
Compromising others safety in the current medical situation is a very poor & selfish choice.
Goodbye.
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 20 Oct 08:14
If true, he must be incredibly thick. Even ignoring all the COVID issues and the fact he'd be guaranteed to be caught out by a stray picture on social media, he'd come back from being off with COVID with a tan!
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 20 Oct 08:21
Ridiculously daft move that I suppose gave the club further grounds to get rid after whatever had already happened.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 20 Oct 08:33
G.G. Nails it
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 20 Oct 08:46
Whilst it’s clearly an inconsiderate and selfish move, I wouldn’t say he’s being incredibly thick, just someone that doesn’t care anymore.
When players tend to start doing this kind of stuff it indicates there’s been some run ins in the dressing room and all is not right, which has been obvious for a while.
Not excusing Watsons actions in any way but I imagine it’s been triggered by events prior. Don’t think any player would deliberately go out and do something like this if something else hasn’t been going on.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Wed 20 Oct 08:57
There’s various things a player can if he’s unhappy at a club.
Sounds as if he chose none of them, and possibly ended his own career as a full time pro.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 20 Oct 09:04
Berry I said the same thing last night - it does show a complete lack of respect for the manager but it also shows a total lack of respect for his team mates, the fans & our club in general.
Big gamble for any club to take him on now.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 20 Oct 09:11
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Tue 19 Oct 21:47
"Peter grant is a cancer who needs cut out immediately"
100% unacceptable comment.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Wed 20 Oct 09:11
Totally agree with the above, da’s post
Post Edited (Wed 20 Oct 09:13)
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Wed 20 Oct 09:17
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 19 Oct 23:25
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Rastapari, Tue 19 Oct 21:52
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dafc-chris1, Tue 19 Oct 21:47
Peter grant is a cancer who needs cut out immediately
Sorry but to me that's an instant blsck card.
Here you want to change that?
You're not quoting me!
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 20 Oct 09:28
Quote:
Rastapari, Wed 20 Oct 09:17
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PARrot, Tue 19 Oct 23:25
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Rastapari, Tue 19 Oct 21:52
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dafc-chris1, Tue 19 Oct 21:47
Peter grant is a cancer who needs cut out immediately
Sorry but to me that's an instant blsck card.
Here you want to change that?
You're not quoting me!
Yep ill go back and sort it. Sorry I missed that.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 20 Oct 09:40
Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 20 Oct 06:57
I have it from a 100% reliable source that Watson phoned the club and told them he had Covid, knowing full well he'd be told to stay away. He then jumped on a plane to Portugal with some mates. By doing this he compromised the Pars Covid bubble.
Selfish, unprofessional, irresponsible. He obviously believes he's smarter than the average footballer. Good riddance.
Trust your sources and they seem to be in line with what others are saying has happened. Incredibly selfish and disrespectful thing to do. Club have handled this very professionally and deserve credit for this.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 20 Oct 09:42
I can`t believe that comment about PG doesn`t warrant a black card.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 20 Oct 09:47
Quote:
par-91, Wed 20 Oct 09:40
Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 20 Oct 06:57
I have it from a 100% reliable source that Watson phoned the club and told them he had Covid, knowing full well he'd be told to stay away. He then jumped on a plane to Portugal with some mates. By doing this he compromised the Pars Covid bubble.
Selfish, unprofessional, irresponsible. He obviously believes he's smarter than the average footballer. Good riddance.
Trust your sources and they seem to be in line with what others are saying has happened. Incredibly selfish and disrespectful thing to do. Club have handled this very professionally and deserve credit for this.
Aye it's almost as if there are professional people in charge of our club after all
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: dave67
Date: Wed 20 Oct 09:50
Wee Eck. Same as I said to PARrot.Give him time to apologise.
If only we knew an admin with cancer . Oh wait
Let`s try making it till Christmas
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 20 Oct 09:58
He`s had plenty time to apologise. He posted something else afterwards and that was also deleted. I don`t understand your comment about admin.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Wed 20 Oct 10:25
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PARrot, Wed 20 Oct 09:28
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Rastapari, Wed 20 Oct 09:17
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PARrot, Tue 19 Oct 23:25
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Rastapari, Tue 19 Oct 21:52
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dafc-chris1, Tue 19 Oct 21:47
Peter grant is a cancer who needs cut out immediately
Sorry but to me that's an instant blsck card.
Here you want to change that?
You're not quoting me!
Yep ill go back and sort it. Sorry I missed that.
Appreciated.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 20 Oct 10:59
this "problem at the club" is nonsense, we are dealing with tier 2 Scottish football, players will be here because they have footballing ability but either not consistent enough to play at higher level or ability but not application to match it and as a result there will be fall outs and issues related to player behaviour. When results go well, morale is high, confidence is high and players are looking to play as often as possible. When results are indifferent players heads turn, a "knock" they would play through if winning suddenly keeps them out 2-3 weeks etc.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Wed 20 Oct 11:07
I apologize for any offence that my comment last night has caused as it was completely unacceptable.
I also accept that with actions come consequences
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 20 Oct 11:17
Well done, Chris
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 20 Oct 11:22
In the scenario above - I reckon Watson`s actions warrant grounds for instant dismissal for gross misconduct.
I wonder if the players` union has had anything to say ?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 20 Oct 11:28
VEE I would imagine that would be why it`s taken a few weeks to resolve. I`m sure the club will have all its` bases covered.
Do you agree the players` actions haven`t really left him with a leg to stand on?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 20 Oct 11:37
"Do you agree the players` actions haven`t really left him with a leg to stand on?"
Literally or legally ?
He has no defence - no pun intended !!!
Post Edited (Wed 20 Oct 11:38)
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Wed 20 Oct 11:53
Good lad Chris, peace.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Wed 20 Oct 12:04
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Wed 20 Oct 11:07
I apologize for any offence that my comment last night has caused as it was completely unacceptable.
I also accept that with actions come consequences
Fair play mate.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 20 Oct 12:14
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Wed 20 Oct 11:07
I apologize for any offence that my comment last night has caused as it was completely unacceptable.
I also accept that with actions come consequences
Good man. Hope all is well with you and last night was just an honest mistake/rush of blood to the head.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 20 Oct 12:34
Good man chris1
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Wed 20 Oct 13:02
Nice one Chris
 East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: dave67
Date: Wed 20 Oct 13:03
Wee Eck.
I am admin
I`m also stage 4
Let`s try making it till Christmas
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 20 Oct 13:06
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Wed 20 Oct 11:07
I apologize for any offence that my comment last night has caused as it was completely unacceptable.
I also accept that with actions come consequences
Accepted and forgiven. Well done.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 20 Oct 13:16
`Topic Originator: dave67 like | nolike
Date: Wed 20 Oct 13:03
Wee Eck.
I am admin
I`m also stage 4`
Cheers, dave67. I understand now. All the best.
Fair play to chris for apologising but I just wish folk would exercise a wee bit self-control on here sometimes.
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Wed 20 Oct 14:24
Quote:
dave67, Wed 20 Oct 13:03
Wee Eck.
I am admin
I`m also stage 4
Ach that's crap news Dave. . . Best wishes to you min.
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Wed 20 Oct 15:10
Quote:
dave67, Wed 20 Oct 13:03
Wee Eck.
I am admin
I`m also stage 4
I've been Stage 4 for 8 years now buddy. Still here 😊 and always available for a blether if needed my friend 👊👊
Take care
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Wed 20 Oct 16:40
I would like to thank the fans for their support during my time at @officialdafc I wish the club and players all the best for the remainder of the season.
Paul Watson on twitter
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 20 Oct 16:49
Quote:
Big T Par, Wed 20 Oct 15:10
Quote:
dave67, Wed 20 Oct 13:03
Wee Eck.
I am admin
I`m also stage 4
I've been Stage 4 for 8 years now buddy. Still here 😊 and always available for a blether if needed my friend 👊👊
Take care
All the best to you both and the countless others who are fighting the good fight.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Wed 20 Oct 17:02
Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 20 Oct 16:49
Quote:
Big T Par, Wed 20 Oct 15:10
Quote:
dave67, Wed 20 Oct 13:03
Wee Eck.
I am admin
I`m also stage 4
I've been Stage 4 for 8 years now buddy. Still here 😊 and always available for a blether if needed my friend 👊👊
Take care
All the best to you both and the countless others who are fighting the good fight.
Best wishes. This forum does often rise to the occasion
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Wed 20 Oct 17:02
🖤🤍❤️
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 20 Oct 17:10
Best wishes guys .. hope all goes well for you
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Wed 20 Oct 18:03
I know players come in and then they leave. I thank Paul for the hard work that he has done for the club. It is such a pity that things ended this way.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 20 Oct 18:20
Quote:
Big T Par, Wed 20 Oct 15:10
Quote:
dave67, Wed 20 Oct 13:03
Wee Eck.
I am admin
I`m also stage 4
I've been Stage 4 for 8 years now buddy. Still here 😊 and always available for a blether if needed my friend
Take care
🖤♥️
💛🖤💛
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: dave67
Date: Wed 20 Oct 19:54
We could always discuss the best team in Germany.
The mighty Bayern Munich 😎
Let`s try making it till Christmas
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 20 Oct 20:57
Quote:
dave67, Wed 20 Oct 19:54
We could always discuss the best team in Germany.
The mighty Bayern Munich 😎
We could discuss that but the swear filter would need to be turned off. 😉
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Wed 20 Oct 21:01
I follow SV Meppen who are clearly bundesliga champions bound in 4 years time..
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Wed 20 Oct 23:05
Courier reporting differences between him and the coaching staff.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Wed 20 Oct 23:13
Watson on Twitter-
“I would like to thank the fans for their support during my time at @officialdafc I wish the club and players all the best for the remainder of the season.”
No apology or remorse can only be a disagreement.
Post Edited (Wed 20 Oct 23:15)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 21 Oct 00:09
Quote:
Indiapar, Wed 20 Oct 23:05
Courier reporting differences between him and the coaching staff.
Aye, the differences being that he allegedly thought it was acceptable to pretend he had Covid so he could skive off the job we pay him for to go on holiday with the lads, while the coaching staff thought this was unacceptable
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Topic Originator: back oh the net
Date: Thu 21 Oct 01:34
Quote:
red-star-par, Thu 21 Oct 00:09
Quote:
Indiapar, Wed 20 Oct 23:05
Courier reporting differences between him and the coaching staff.
Aye, the differences being that he allegedly thought it was acceptable to pretend he had Covid so he could skive off the job we pay him for to go on holiday with the lads, while the coaching staff thought this was unacceptable
Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter as well
Come on ye pars ⚽️
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Thu 21 Oct 02:14
If true, Watson will soon realise that this effectively is a career ending move for him. His agent won`t be answering his phone quite so quickly now.
His future will likely be dependent on the whims of dodgy coaches in South East Asia - you pay for your own flight and we will reimburse you later - or the generosity of managers at rehabilitation clubs like Airdrie and Clyde, where you play for a pittance just to keep your name in the hat.
He is bound to pay a heavy price for this display of disloyalty, arrogance and entitlement. And doubtless, he would be ill-advised to ask for a reference from East End Park.
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Thu 21 Oct 02:40
Ozpar,
It`s had to argue with your logic. But if Peter Grant is punted soon after a series of poor results, which is highly likely, , then Watson`s credibility will not be affected. Ex-Pars players might become valued assets.
I assume the present board, despite their apparent support of Grant, are exploring opportunities to replace him. He is finished as a DAFC manager as he himself knows by now. The question is when..
sammer
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 21 Oct 08:04
Quote:
sammer, Thu 21 Oct 02:40
Ozpar,
It`s had to argue with your logic. But if Peter Grant is punted soon after a series of poor results, which is highly likely, , then Watson`s credibility will not be affected. Ex-Pars players might become valued assets.
I assume the present board, despite their apparent support of Grant, are exploring opportunities to replace him. He is finished as a DAFC manager as he himself knows by now. The question is when..
I would contend that Peter Grant's managerial ability is a separate issue, but I agree that Paul Watson will not find it too difficult to find a new club. There have been cases of players who have behaved in an even more unacceptable manner and have gone on to find clubs who are prepared to forgive and forget.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Thu 21 Oct 09:21
Clubs at our level have less of a luxury to turn down good players due to their behaviour to be honest.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 21 Oct 10:00
Airdrie awaits.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 21 Oct 12:32
Cardle punched his own Captain, came to us and became a legend.
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Topic Originator: DA_NO1
Date: Thu 21 Oct 12:41
Cult Hero rather than Legend tbh
"a picture paints a thousand words"
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Thu 21 Oct 13:00
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 21 Oct 12:32
Cardle punched his own Captain, came to us and became a legend.
I do think ‘legend’ is maybe too strong. However, Cardle is undoubtedly one that deserves a lot of respect from Dunfermline fans.
I do agree with your point though. From memory, Cardle signed a pre-contract with us. Within weeks, he punched his club captain, got sent off and had his Airdrie contract terminated. He then trained with us for the rest of the season, until he could be registered and the rest is history. He went on to be a great player for us, over 2 spells and I don’t think his attitude/commitment could ever be questioned. He is even giving back to the local community now, with his coaching school.
Therefore, it’s hard to argue that Watson’s actions could end his career. Players have done worse and still got decent moves, footballing ability (which Watson certainly has) will be more important than mistakes like this, when clubs consider who to sign.
Worth remembering Watson got the management team’s player of the year last season. Again, I’d argue that’s more likely to influence other managers than a fall out with Grant (regardless of whether he acted very poorly here).
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 21 Oct 14:00
Even during the worst runs of Crawfords` reign we never had a senior player think it was acceptable to do something like this. Tells me all I need to know about Watsons` relationship with the manager & his staff.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 21 Oct 14:35
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 21 Oct 14:00
Even during the worst runs of Crawfords` reign we never had a senior player think it was acceptable to do something like this. Tells me all I need to know about Watsons` relationship with the manager & his staff.
How do we know that? We still don't know the truth about Turner.
People rarely know the real reasons people leave organisations. We all get the "I'd like to thanks such and such for their service" when a manager may be thinking "thank God they're gone!"
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 21 Oct 14:37
Topic Originator: DA_NO1 like | nolike
Date: Thu 21 Oct 12:41
Cult Hero rather than Legend tbh
2 league titles, 200+ appearances, and to openly show his love for the club and town is enough to be a legend at a club tbh.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 21 Oct 14:38
"We all get the "I`d like to thanks such and such for their service" when a manager may be thinking "thank God they`re gone!"
Speaking from experience, Jake??!!
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 21 Oct 15:02
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 21 Oct 14:38
"We all get the "I`d like to thanks such and such for their service" when a manager may be thinking "thank God they`re gone!"
Speaking from experience, Jake??!!
Yep. Both as a manager and part of a team I will have said things like "Sorry to hear you're leaving" whilst actually thinking "Good riddance". I've also experienced people I assumed got on well saying they actually hated someone after they're gone. We're all a bunch of fakers!
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Topic Originator: DA_NO1
Date: Thu 21 Oct 15:23
In our eyes Atletico and you are entitled to that opinion.
He falls short of Legend status in my eyes.
Back on point, can see Watson getting a deal in league 1 until the end of the season.
"a picture paints a thousand words"
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Thu 21 Oct 16:04
He will easily get a championship club. My guess is Partick.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 21 Oct 16:54
Quote:
Berry, Thu 21 Oct 09:21
Clubs at our level have less of a luxury to turn down good players due to their behaviour to be honest.
I don't know if Watson's behaviour means he should be labelled a "bad egg" but I would certainly think long and hard about bringing him to a club where I was the manager or chairman. There's no doubt he's a good player at Championship level, but my fear would be that he might unsettle other players in the squad.
What price dressing room harmony? A club in which the players, management team and directors are all singing from the same hymn sheet and happy in their workplace can only lead to one thing - the fans joining in the singing. 🙂
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 21 Oct 17:31
"I don`t know if Watson`s behaviour means he should be labelled a "bad egg" but I would certainly think long and hard about bringing him to a club where I was the manager or chairman."
GG - how would you feel if one of your colleagues pulled a sickie and then swanned off on a jolly ?
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Thu 21 Oct 18:06
Quote:
GG Riva, Thu 21 Oct 16:54
Quote:
Berry, Thu 21 Oct 09:21
Clubs at our level have less of a luxury to turn down good players due to their behaviour to be honest.
I don't know if Watson's behaviour means he should be labelled a "bad egg" but I would certainly think long and hard about bringing him to a club where I was the manager or chairman. There's no doubt he's a good player at Championship level, but my fear would be that he might unsettle other players in the squad.
What price dressing room harmony? A club in which the players, management team and directors are all singing from the same hymn sheet and happy in their workplace can only lead to one thing - the fans joining in the singing. 🙂
I don’t think what Watson has allegedly done will have really disjointed dressing room harmony, think my point earlier is that the damage was probably done prior which has triggered Watson to do what he’s done.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 21 Oct 19:02
Quote:
veteraneastender, Thu 21 Oct 17:31
"I don`t know if Watson`s behaviour means he should be labelled a "bad egg" but I would certainly think long and hard about bringing him to a club where I was the manager or chairman."
GG - how would you feel if one of your colleagues pulled a sickie and then swanned off on a jolly ?
One of my colleagues did - many of us were pretty hacked off but nobody reported the matter. It would have been hard to prove, in any case - she had a doctor's certificate.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 21 Oct 19:07
Quote:
Berry, Thu 21 Oct 18:06
Quote:
GG Riva, Thu 21 Oct 16:54
Quote:
Berry, Thu 21 Oct 09:21
Clubs at our level have less of a luxury to turn down good players due to their behaviour to be honest.
I don't know if Watson's behaviour means he should be labelled a "bad egg" but I would certainly think long and hard about bringing him to a club where I was the manager or chairman. There's no doubt he's a good player at Championship level, but my fear would be that he might unsettle other players in the squad.
What price dressing room harmony? A club in which the players, management team and directors are all singing from the same hymn sheet and happy in their workplace can only lead to one thing - the fans joining in the singing. 🙂
I don’t think what Watson has allegedly done will have really disjointed dressing room harmony, think my point earlier is that the damage was probably done prior which has triggered Watson to do what he’s done.
Maybe not, but it sets a very poor example. And you can forget the "allegedly" in your post, I don't post rumours and if I did I would call it as such. I agree that if his relationship with the manager had been good, he might not have conned him, but who knows? Even if he hated the manager, it was a crass thing to pull.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Thu 21 Oct 19:28
Watson is a good championship player. If any other current manager has worked with him before they will know what he is like and will offer him a contract.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 21 Oct 19:39
Quote:
eastendalloapar, Thu 21 Oct 19:28
Watson is a good championship player. If any other current manager has worked with him before they will know what he is like and won't offer him a contract.
Fixed that for you.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 21 Oct 19:48
Quote:
jake89, Thu 21 Oct 19:39
Quote:
eastendalloapar, Thu 21 Oct 19:28
Watson is a good championship player. If any other current manager has worked with him before they will know what he is like and won't offer him a contract.
Fixed that for you.
He's a good player, Jake. He'll get a club, but might have to go down a league and do his penance. A year from now, he'll be back in the Championship or at a lower Premiership club. Berry nailed it when he said that clubs at lower levels can't afford to turn their nose up when a good player is available.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 21 Oct 19:51
"Maybe not, but it sets a very poor example. And you can forget the "allegedly" in your post, I don`t post rumours and if I did I would call it as such. I agree that if his relationship with the manager had been good, he might not have conned him, but who knows? Even if he hated the manager, it was a crass thing to pull."
I can see where Berry is coming from G.G. your 100% source post alleges the Laddie phoned in sick then jumped on a plane .. Now you know and I know that is not 100% correct
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 21 Oct 19:59
Why are people STILL trying to defend him?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 21 Oct 20:14
Not defending the guy da .. just don`t like the 100% reliable source nonsense .. It was not reliable end off .. what he did was wrong and we all know that .. as many have said good riddance .. something not sitting quite right at our club just now if Rosyth FC rumour is 100% correct
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 21 Oct 20:32
Quote:
GG Riva, Thu 21 Oct 19:02
Quote:
veteraneastender, Thu 21 Oct 17:31
"I don`t know if Watson`s behaviour means he should be labelled a "bad egg" but I would certainly think long and hard about bringing him to a club where I was the manager or chairman."
GG - how would you feel if one of your colleagues pulled a sickie and then swanned off on a jolly ?
One of my colleagues did - many of us were pretty hacked off but nobody reported the matter. It would have been hard to prove, in any case - she had a doctor's certificate.
A doctor’s line scenario is not the same a colleague swanning off after a heads up ‘phone call without a medical certificate.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 21 Oct 20:41
Quote:
Buspasspar, Thu 21 Oct 19:51
"Maybe not, but it sets a very poor example. And you can forget the "allegedly" in your post, I don`t post rumours and if I did I would call it as such. I agree that if his relationship with the manager had been good, he might not have conned him, but who knows? Even if he hated the manager, it was a crass thing to pull."
I can see where Berry is coming from G.G. your 100% source post alleges the Laddie phoned in sick then jumped on a plane .. Now you know and I know that is not 100% correct
I agreed with Berry 're Watson's relationship with the manager being a contributory factor to him going AWOL.
I know my post is 100% correct because I trust my source 100%. How do you know it's not? If you have reliable information to the contrary, I'd love to hear it.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 21 Oct 21:01
Quote:
Buspasspar, Thu 21 Oct 20:14
Not defending the guy da .. just don`t like the 100% reliable source nonsense .. It was not reliable end off .. what he did was wrong and we all know that .. as many have said good riddance .. something not sitting quite right at our club just now if Rosyth FC rumour is 100% correct
GG has said he trusts his source 100%. What's your problem?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Thu 21 Oct 21:04)
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 21 Oct 21:10
No problem here big guy .. I think the problem is with G.G. and his 100% reliable source which turns out if G.G. was being 100% honest was not correct
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 21 Oct 21:19
What's the Rosyth FC rumour?
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Thu 21 Oct 21:22
Didn’t mean to offend, I use the term allegedly purely because I’ve heard it through a football forum rather than any formal route myself, granted that will never happen.
That’s me not doubting your sources or saying you are incorrect GG.
Also for the record not defending Watson in the slightest for his actions, totally agree that regardless of the situation at the club he shouldn’t have done what he did. All I’m saying is if all was well with the club in the first place, I don’t think he would’ve done what he did.
Not excusing him but just acknowledging that there’s clearly been a disconnect and disagreements in the dressing room for a while now and it hasn’t been able to be nipped in the bud it seems.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 21 Oct 21:47
Quote:
Berry, Thu 21 Oct 21:22
Didn’t mean to offend, I use the term allegedly purely because I’ve heard it through a football forum rather than any formal route myself, granted that will never happen.
That’s me not doubting your sources or saying you are incorrect GG.
Also for the record not defending Watson in the slightest for his actions, totally agree that regardless of the situation at the club he shouldn’t have done what he did. All I’m saying is if all was well with the club in the first place, I don’t think he would’ve done what he did.
Not excusing him but just acknowledging that there’s clearly been a disconnect and disagreements in the dressing room for a while now and it hasn’t been able to be nipped in the bud it seems.
There's a helluva lot of conjecture and speculation in that post Berry
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Fri 22 Oct 00:07
Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 21 Oct 21:19
What`s the Rosyth FC rumour?
Surprised the comments regarding this have not been removed……mine was….
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 22 Oct 00:09
Quote:
jake89, Thu 21 Oct 21:19
What's the Rosyth FC rumour?
Something to do with our board basically ignoring their attempts to communicate regarding the new training facilities for weeks or months. They want to invest £300k but the rumour is we may have found land elsewhere. If true it seems our board don't like to communicate with others
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 22 Oct 00:53
Quote:
Athletico, Thu 21 Oct 14:37
Topic Originator: DA_NO1 like | nolike
Date: Thu 21 Oct 12:41
Cult Hero rather than Legend tbh
2 league titles, 200+ appearances, and to openly show his love for the club and town is enough to be a legend at a club tbh.
I think the amount a player is talked about has a lot to do with being a legend. Few beat Cardle in that department.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Fri 22 Oct 02:32
Quote:
Andrew283, Fri 22 Oct 00:09
Quote:
jake89, Thu 21 Oct 21:19
What's the Rosyth FC rumour?
Something to do with our board basically ignoring their attempts to communicate regarding the new training facilities for weeks or months. They want to invest £300k but the rumour is we may have found land elsewhere. If true it seems our board don't like to communicate with others
How on earth do Rosyth have 300k?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 22 Oct 07:04
Read the rumour elsewhere now.
It could be true but would also suggest RFC are incredibly unprofessional.
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Fri 22 Oct 07:15
Mounting murmurings of poor behaviour and terrible communication skills from the people on charge.
The covid vote debacle
Treatment of Rosyth
Antagonising statements.
It's not a good look and certainly predates the takeover.
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Fri 22 Oct 07:16
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Grant, Fri 22 Oct 02:32
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Andrew283, Fri 22 Oct 00:09
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jake89, Thu 21 Oct 21:19
What's the Rosyth FC rumour?
Something to do with our board basically ignoring their attempts to communicate regarding the new training facilities for weeks or months. They want to invest £300k but the rumour is we may have found land elsewhere. If true it seems our board don't like to communicate with others
How on earth do Rosyth have 300k?
Council funding.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 22 Oct 07:21
"Didn’t mean to offend, I use the term allegedly purely because I’ve heard it through a football forum rather than any formal route myself, granted that will never happen."
Rest assured I wasn`t in the least offended, Berry. In your shoes, I`d probably have used it too. I just wanted to convey that the version I`ve posted is absolutely true.
"No problem here big guy .. I think the problem is with G.G. and his 100% reliable source which turns out if G.G. was being 100% honest was not correct."
Not sure what you`re insinuating, BPP. Are you saying that my source might be lying or it might be me? I`ve never met Paul Watson and have no reason to make up a seriously scurrilous allegation about him, which might have a detrimental effect on his football career. That would be a really despicable thing to do.
That leaves my source in the dock. I`ve known him for many years and can vouch for his honesty and integrity. He has confided in me on Pars matters several times in the past and his information has always been reliable. A long time Pars fan like me, he`s hopping mad about this whole saga and the fact that it makes our club look bad. He doesn`t post on here so I decided to put it on instead. I hoped the truth would quash all the rumours and speculation.
Eta. I hope Watson finds a new club and gets his career back on track. It would be a shame if he was lost to the game. What he did was incredibly stupid, but he`s young and probably impetuous. There may well have been other contributory factors which we are not privy to, even if none can justify his unprofessional actions. I certainly don`t ever want to see him in a Pars shirt again and would join in the booing and whistling if he returns to EEP as an opponent.
Post Edited (Fri 22 Oct 07:46)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 22 Oct 07:46
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elvis_lives, Fri 22 Oct 07:15
Mounting murmurings of poor behaviour and terrible communication skills from the people on charge.
The covid vote debacle
Treatment of Rosyth
Antagonising statements.
It's not a good look and certainly predates the takeover.
I couldn't sleep last night for worrying about how poorly we might have treated Rosyth......
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Fri 22 Oct 07:50
I'm not sure GG Riva can win...doesn't join in hysterical character assassination he's a club stooge hingin out RM's erchie....or....Post something from a reliable source and he knows eff all about the club and makes things up.
Mon lads, make your mind up.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 22 Oct 08:06
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Rastapari, Fri 22 Oct 07:50
I'm not sure GG Riva can win...doesn't join in hysterical character assassination he's a club stooge hingin out RM's erchie....or....Post something from a reliable source and he knows eff all about the club and makes things up.
Mon lads, make your mind up.
I've got broad shoulders, buddy, I can take it. 🙂
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 22 Oct 08:31
What evidence of these broad shoulders do you have, GG? I heard they're actually quite narrow. This is typical of this club...😂
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 22 Oct 08:59
Quote:
jake89, Fri 22 Oct 08:31
What evidence of these broad shoulders do you have, GG? I heard they're actually quite narrow. This is typical of this club...😂
I heard they aren't that broad, I mean not Schwarznegger broad. I don't think he is being 100% honest here.
Could be wrong, maybe just a rumour.
Maybe we should call him B.A. Riva instead of G.G. 🏋️♂️😉
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Fri 22 Oct 13:01
I tgought RM has said in previous statements that the club didn't carry insurance for players as the cost would be prohibitive. Maybe with injury he is on a reduced salary and some sort of compensation scheme through the players union. Maybe he has been in FT employment outside football.
In any case not good for him or the club. Hopefully he can recover snd kickstart his career.
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Topic Originator: Roger Daltrey
Date: Fri 22 Oct 13:26
I'm not really concerned if Rosyth FC aren't happy that they are having to wait on confirmation from us whether they can invest 300k that has come straight from our council tax, via the council. Their issue is their land getting sold from under them to Lidl. It's not our job to sort it for them.
I'd hope we are exploring all options for our training academy and not allowing pressure from anyone else to opt for their preferred option or take any hasty decisions. I'm sire it was mentioned the investors were sinking c700k into this, why would Rosyth's Council grant be a factor in their decision?
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Fri 22 Oct 13:56
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Roger Daltrey, Fri 22 Oct 13:26
I'm not really concerned if Rosyth FC aren't happy that they are having to wait on confirmation from us whether they can invest 300k that has come straight from our council tax, via the council. Their issue is their land getting sold from under them to Lidl. It's not our job to sort it for them.
I'd hope we are exploring all options for our training academy and not allowing pressure from anyone else to opt for their preferred option or take any hasty decisions. I'm sire it was mentioned the investors were sinking c700k into this, why would Rosyth's Council grant be a factor in their decision?
I think the issue is to do with the lack of communication and the fact that (if the reports are true) we have been ignoring their calls/emails. If we are exploring our options and/or have a preference of another site, it would be respectful to let them know, so that they can then explore their options. If this is what’s best for them, then I’m sure they would still enter into this venture with us, if our other options don’t come to anything and they haven’t agreed anything else.
I think everyone would completely agree that we need to do what’s best for us and not what would benefit another club most. If any other site is the best option, that’s what we should go for.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Fri 22 Oct 13:57
Topic Originator: GG Riva like | nolike Like: 2
Date: Wed 20 Oct 06:57
I have it from a 100% reliable source that Watson phoned the club and told them he had Covid, knowing full well he`d be told to stay away. He then jumped on a plane to Portugal with some mates. By doing this he compromised the Pars Covid bubble.
Selfish, unprofessional, irresponsible. He obviously believes he`s smarter than the average footballer. Good riddance.
If I am reading your post correctly GG he was lying about having Covid ? If true Did the club ask for proof of positive test?
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Fri 22 Oct 14:24
The fact the Rosyth FC have gone public to bad mouth is is enough for me to think we should tell them to GTF.
They need us more than we need them and they have now shown themselves to be untrustworthy.
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Topic Originator: back oh the net
Date: Fri 22 Oct 15:32
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Indiapar, Fri 22 Oct 13:01
I tgought RM has said in previous statements that the club didn't carry insurance for players as the cost would be prohibitive. Maybe with injury he is on a reduced salary and some sort of compensation scheme through the players union. Maybe he has been in FT employment outside football.
In any case not good for him or the club. Hopefully he can recover snd kickstart his career.
Recover from what exactly? Telling porky pies in order to go on his holibobs wae his mates?
Come on ye pars ⚽️
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 22 Oct 15:35
Quote:
desparado, Fri 22 Oct 13:57
Topic Originator: GG Riva like | nolike Like: 2
Date: Wed 20 Oct 06:57
I have it from a 100% reliable source that Watson phoned the club and told them he had Covid, knowing full well he`d be told to stay away. He then jumped on a plane to Portugal with some mates. By doing this he compromised the Pars Covid bubble.
Selfish, unprofessional, irresponsible. He obviously believes he`s smarter than the average footballer. Good riddance.
If I am reading your post correctly GG he was lying about having Covid ? If true Did the club ask for proof of positive test?
My understanding is that the club took Watson at his word. Why would they have reason to doubt him? And if relations between him and the manager were already strained, how would it have gone down if PG had asked him to submit written evidence?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Fri 22 Oct 15:59
How did Rosyth FC come into a question regarding the authenticity of the Paul Watson rumour? WTF?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 22 Oct 16:15
Quote:
Grant, Fri 22 Oct 15:59
How did Rosyth FC come into a question regarding the authenticity of the Paul Watson rumour? WTF?
Nae idea. Probably just another excuse to slag off the club
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: dave67
Date: Fri 22 Oct 16:26
Well knowing someone from rosyth fc. I can honestly say. The figure they where putting in was nowhere near 300 k
Let`s try making it till Christmas
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 22 Oct 16:32
Quote:
Grant, Fri 22 Oct 15:59
How did Rosyth FC come into a question regarding the authenticity of the Paul Watson rumour? WTF?
I think there was a reference to Rosyth from Elvis this morning. Someone else then posted info on players insurance on this thread instead of the Lewis Martin one, so we've got a right dog's dinner now. 🤣
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Fri 22 Oct 16:46
Topic Originator: GG Riva like | nolike
Date: Fri 22 Oct 15:35
Quote:
desparado, Fri 22 Oct 13:57
Topic Originator: GG Riva like | nolike Like: 2
Date: Wed 20 Oct 06:57
I have it from a 100% reliable source that Watson phoned the club and told them he had Covid, knowing full well he`d be told to stay away. He then jumped on a plane to Portugal with some mates. By doing this he compromised the Pars Covid bubble.
Selfish, unprofessional, irresponsible. He obviously believes he`s smarter than the average footballer. Good riddance.
If I am reading your post correctly GG he was lying about having Covid ? If true Did the club ask for proof of positive test?
My understanding is that the club took Watson at his word. Why would they have reason to doubt him? And if relations between him and the manager were already strained, how would it have gone down if PG had asked him to submit written evidence?
Well I find that astonishing and unprofessional/ amateurish from DAFC if that was the case.
What other line of work could you just call in to say you had tested positive for Covid and the employer would just say aye ok then see you in ten days !
The club would surely have had to test all players in his bubble go to all that extra hassle that arises when an employee tests positive to ensure the safety of the rest of the players. And to check if others were positive. Maybe the club did ? But to do that on the word of a player who obviously had serious issues with management is bewildering….
I tested positive at my work …. Overseas… a few months ago.. as I was coming out of mandatory bedroom isolation. Office got emptied as I shared a house with one other, all staff sent for a test. I was re tested and it turns out I was a false positive.
It does not matter how it would have gone down… it should have been mandatory the same as having to prove you are negative after being positive is mandatory….or should be in a professionally run organisation..
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Fri 22 Oct 16:53
"What other line of work could you just call in to say you had tested positive for Covid and the employer would just say aye ok then see you in ten days !"
I work for a large multinational and that's exactly how it works for us. It's done on a trust basis that you're not well enough to work. Some folk have had to take the time off and some have just worked from home. Football clubs need to protect their bubble so I'm sure they rely on players not lying too and just tell them to stay away until their quarantine time is up.
Any time off over a week will need the person to provided more detail in our absence management system but we're not sending folk round to check on anyone.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 22 Oct 17:00
If I am reading your post correctly GG he was lying about having Covid ? If true Did the club ask for proof of positive test?
My understanding is that the club took Watson at his word. Why would they have reason to doubt him? And if relations between him and the manager were already strained, how would it have gone down if PG had asked him to submit written evidence?
Well I find that astonishing and unprofessional/ amateurish from DAFC if that was the case.
What other line of work could you just call in to say you had tested positive for Covid and the employer would just say aye ok then see you in ten days !
The club would surely have had to test all players in his bubble go to all that extra hassle that arises when an employee tests positive to ensure the safety of the rest of the players. And to check if others were positive. Maybe the club did ? But to do that on the word of a player who obviously had serious issues with management is bewildering….
I tested positive at my work …. Overseas… a few months ago.. as I was coming out of mandatory bedroom isolation. Office got emptied as I shared a house with one other, all staff sent for a test. I was re tested and it turns out I was a false positive.
It does not matter how it would have gone down… it should have been mandatory the same as having to prove you are negative after being positive is mandatory….or should be in a professionally run organisation..
I must come clean here and say that I am not aware that Watson was asked to submit proof that he was Covid positive. It wasn't discussed in the conversation with my source, so by "my understanding" I was assuming that it hadn't taken place otherwise my source would have said so.
Apologies if I have inadvertently misled you and any other poster on this detail. He may or may not have been asked for proof, but I'm still leaning towards thinking that the club took him on trust.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Fri 22 Oct 21:31
It's Watson,who's been un- profesional. If I had done what he allegedly did,I would have been sacked.
Post Edited (Fri 22 Oct 21:31)
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Fri 22 Oct 22:27
Topic Originator: londonparsfan like | nolike
Date: Fri 22 Oct 16:53
"What other line of work could you just call in to say you had tested positive for Covid and the employer would just say aye ok then see you in ten days !"
I work for a large multinational and that`s exactly how it works for us. It`s done on a trust basis that you`re not well enough to work. Some folk have had to take the time off and some have just worked from home. Football clubs need to protect their bubble so I`m sure they rely on players not lying too and just tell them to stay away until their quarantine time is up.
Any time off over a week will need the person to provided more detail in our absence management system but we`re not sending folk round to check on anyone.
Maybe I have been working out of the U.K. for too long then.. I still find it strange that you can just call in and say I have tested positive and nobody in the organisation… management/HR would not ask to see the positive result….it’s not about trust regarding the individual it’s about ascertaining who he or she was close to at work and deciding if employees need to go for a test based on the individuals positive result.
Pars maybe testing regularly, I am not sure of the current requirements , but again I can’t understand why any organisation would just trust everyone. It is open to abuse….as we have learned….allegedly.
What prompted him to self test? Was he feeling unwell?
Shocking by the club imho. And him obviously…if true…
Post Edited (Fri 22 Oct 22:29)
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Fri 22 Oct 23:22
If they had said they'd tested positive at ours they would try and let any contacts know. We're all meant to take lateral flow tests before we go into the office anyway so we're also reliant on people telling the truth on that front too. That's daily if you're going in daily.
If you can't trust people in your organisation to tell the truth in relation to a Covid test then you've got a real problem trusting them for a whole myriad of other reasons and you might want to think about getting them out your company. Easier said than done unless they break your HR code.
You've also got to consider how others in your industry are managing the issue as well. If all the other clubs are happy to take their players word at face value and you put a reporting process in place that challenges them to prove a test result then you're essentially telling them that you don't trust them which can damage your relationship with your staff too not to mention the potential negative press that comes from adopting the position that your staff have to justify themselves.
Staff can always kick the @rse out of sickness but lying about a Covid test isn't something you can do too often and in this case it's apparently blown up in his face.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Fri 22 Oct 23:32
I wonder how the club found out he was telling porkies then ?
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Topic Originator: Stella Kozma
Date: Fri 22 Oct 23:42
Probably dot.net or pie and bovril.
Only places for 100% accuracy and no bull.
Kirkcaldy Parasites Live On
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Fri 22 Oct 23:55
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desparado, Fri 22 Oct 23:32
I wonder how the club found out he was telling porkies then ?
I wouldn't be surprised if someone told someone who told someone who told someone etc.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 23 Oct 00:00
I'd imagine if all his team mates are working their socks off at training and they got wind of it, they wouldn't be too chuffed. If he was allegedly away on a lads holiday, then it's probably likely someone there has told someone else what he's been up to, and the story has eventually worked its way back
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 23 Oct 05:28
Quote:
desparado, Fri 22 Oct 23:32
I wonder how the club found out he was telling porkies then ?
Symptoms of COVID don't usually include a tan.
If he WAS infectious and travelled then that's even worse.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 23 Oct 07:46
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jake89, Sat 23 Oct 05:28
Quote:
desparado, Fri 22 Oct 23:32
I wonder how the club found out he was telling porkies then ?
Symptoms of COVID don't usually include a tan.
If he WAS infectious and travelled then that's even worse.
Maybe he or one of his mates was even daft enough to post a pic of them on the beach on Facebook?
Desparado, what makes you think he may have felt unwell, self-tested positive and then decided to go on holiday with his mates anyway? Where's the logic in that?
With the trust thing, it varies from country to country. In my former job, I could phone in sick and stay off for a week without a doctor's certificate. (For the record, I had 15 days absence in the 10 years before I retired, according to my line manager.)
In Italy for example, public sector employees who phone in sick must stay at home and await a visit from an independent doctor, sent by their employer, to be assessed. If you're not at home when the doctor arrives, you may be suspended or even dismissed for repeat offences. Unfortunately, these draconian measures are necessary in my native land because many public employees think nothing of skiving off their work at every opportunity. The private sector is even stricter. Employers will readily tell any worker with a poor attendance record that he's no longer required.
I know being off sick is a bit different from having Covid, but I wanted to highlight the trust issue.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 23 Oct 10:03
I`m not sure why we`re still discussing the ins-and-outs of this. Watson left by mutual consent. No doubt he was represented by the SPFA in his dealings with the club and they would have made sure he got a fair hearing. It`s time to move on surely.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 23 Oct 11:53
I'm more interested in Rosyth now. I never understood the benefit of us going in with them in the first place so it'd be interesting if we were going to Lochgelly instead. Sounds like a made up story but who knows?
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 23 Oct 12:25
GG. I did not suggest that he felt unwell.
I was thinking how I would question a positive test if he called in to say he had self tested positive.
Anyway he sounds like a right numpty and deserves to have had his contract terminated….
Still don’t think there is anything wrong with elite sportsmen having to prove the result…either way.
Would they have taken his word for it with the negative result too? Mmm don’t think so….
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 23 Oct 12:25
Quote:
jake89, Sat 23 Oct 11:53
I'm more interested in Rosyth now. I never understood the benefit of us going in with them in the first place so it'd be interesting if we were going to Lochgelly instead. Sounds like a made up story but who knows?
Where about in Lochgelly?
The old Ballingry Rovers set up is lying empty!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 23 Oct 13:25
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Sat 23 Oct 12:25
Quote:
jake89, Sat 23 Oct 11:53
I'm more interested in Rosyth now. I never understood the benefit of us going in with them in the first place so it'd be interesting if we were going to Lochgelly instead. Sounds like a made up story but who knows?
Where about in Lochgelly?
The old Ballingry Rovers set up is lying empty!
It's just a rumour. Someone suggesting it's Purvis land. Sounds fanciful to me. A bit like the suggestion a couple of weeks ago that EEP was being sold by housing by the German investors who don't own the stadium 😂
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Topic Originator: YankeeDollar
Date: Sat 23 Oct 23:15
With all the speculation about Paul Watsons contract being terminated.
The reason he got told to pack his bags was that he`d went on a stag do to Portugal and didn`t inform the club of his intentions.
Therefore broke the clubs inhouse rules and was duly told to bolt.
He`s now an out of contract player and free to go to whoever wants him.
Maybe it was his idea to free himself from the club?
P
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sat 23 Oct 23:33
Maybe so but it clearly suited the club to go down the sacking route otherwise they could have heavily fined him.
Of course you might think that a prospective club was in on the dastardly plan?
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 24 Oct 07:28
Quote:
YankeeDollar, Sat 23 Oct 23:15
With all the speculation about Paul Watsons contract being terminated.
The reason he got told to pack his bags was that he`d went on a stag do to Portugal and didn`t inform the club of his intentions.
Therefore broke the clubs inhouse rules and was duly told to bolt.
He`s now an out of contract player and free to go to whoever wants him.
Maybe it was his idea to free himself from the club?
P
"Didn't inform the club of his intentions"?
He lied to the club and made himself unavailable for selection BEFORE the international break, at a time when the team was going through a very poor run of form and could ill afford to do without his ability and experience.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Wed 27 Oct 22:17
Quote:
dave67, Wed 20 Oct 19:54
We could always discuss the best team in Germany.
The mighty Bayern Munich 😎
You were saying 🤣🤣
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 27 Oct 22:22
Quote:
Big T Par, Wed 27 Oct 22:17
Quote:
dave67, Wed 20 Oct 19:54
We could always discuss the best team in Germany.
The mighty Bayern Munich 😎
You were saying 🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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