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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:02
https://dafc.co.uk/story.php?t=DAFC_Board_Statement_&ID=13410
Click here
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 14:16)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:04
Almost inevitable really.
Robertson has been approached, apparently
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 14:05)
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:04
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out the door. Worst manager in my time supporting the Pars. Massive job for the new man keeping us up.
I Know There's Gonna Be (Good Times)
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:05
Phew! Now onwards and upwards.
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:06
Thank goodness. Hopefully we have enough time to recover.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:06
Thank fork
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 14:07)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:06
Outbreak of commence sense at east end shocker!
Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:07
Opens beer :-)
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:07
Sunday bevy sesh on the cards now 🍾
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Topic Originator: rossmcno1
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:09
No you’ve no, you’re still here. 😉
Fingers crossed for a strong replacement.
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Topic Originator: Parhag
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:09
Best outcome for all.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:10
Opens fridge and grabs beer 😃
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:12
Hopefully the players will be at their best on Saturday in order to impress the new manager.
Ill bet you all a round pound it will be Robbo.
Having said that. I dont think they will rush it. After the last appointment they will want to be seen to take time to get it right.
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 14:15)
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:12
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sun 31 Oct 14:04
Almost inevitable really.
Robertson has been approached, apparently
I hope so 👍🙄
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:13
Quote:
Kessel, Sun 31 Oct 14:07
Sunday bevy sesh on the cards now 🍾
Behave yersel, laddie! You can't celebrate a man losing his job.
On second thoughts, on this occasion it's a good reason to get smashed. 😃
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:14
Inevitable decision should have been made earlier,where do we go from here?
Present team doesent inspire,big job for whoever gets it.
Clubs a mess in my opinion starting with the board who appointed Grant, and alienated
the support.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:16
Had to happen after yesterday, I hope the club are a bit more rigorous this time.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: The moose
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:17
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Sun 31 Oct 14:10 fridge and grabs beer 😃[Bottle of Grouse opened.
BCM
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:18
Hoping that the new manager will get to clear out all the coaching staff.
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Topic Originator: Pars11
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:19
Would like an ex player to offered the job. Someone with a passion for the club. Paul Smudger Smith at Raith Rovers would be a good call as would Rustybits at Stirling Albion. Whoever it is let`s get behind them and support the club to the hilt, what has been is gone.
Bluebell Polka
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:20
Robbo would be great if we could convince him to take it.
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Topic Originator: pastry
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:22
finally he should never of got the job in first place. however i wish him well never will i say anything nasty about anyone!
adam fillon-payoux
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Topic Originator: 271194
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:25
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:26
John Robertson or Yogi Hughes for me
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:27
Have we ever had a manager leave without winning a league game?
I`m now looking forward to a couple wins when I`m back in November.
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 14:28)
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:28
Has 271194 just got the fastest black card ever?
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:29
Appoint Robertson now
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:29
Thank God.
We can all chill for a bit...a week or so maybe 😊
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:29
Best news to come out of EEP for a long time, hope the coaching staff are gone too and we must get John Robertson as our new manager.
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Topic Originator: Jacko Par42
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:29
The correct decision finally. Hopefully the club take a bit of time and appoint the right person to steer us away from the foot of the table
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:31
I just hope the man doesn’t suffer from poor MH and reads this forum.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:37
Quote:
Connor560, Sun 31 Oct 14:26
John Robertson or Yogi Hughes for me
Personally couldn't care less who it is as long as they've got the Midas touch.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:38
It’s a shame he can’t take half the players with him.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:39
Thank god
buffysbuns.wordpress.com
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:42
Quote:
eastendalloapar, Sun 31 Oct 14:28
Has 271194 just got the fastest black card ever?
It has to be a record - black carded immediately after his first post. 🤣
I wonder what he said? Maybe someone who saw it could give us the jist of it without getting a black card?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:45
What happens if new man doesn't win any of his 11 league games
 East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: rossmcno1
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:46
GG
I think his username is a giveaway to what team he supports. Don’t think he realises that he can still submit a post under a black card, but we all can’t see it, but he can see this.
Wee teamers, bless them!
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Topic Originator: arpar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:47
Quote:
MDCCCLXXXV, Sun 31 Oct 14:45
What happens if new man doesn't win any of his 11 league games
We will still be bottom of the league.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:48
Well, we might be about to find out how much of our present situation is down to the management and how much down to the players.
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Topic Originator: ParsFrontMan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:50
Thank God! Least Kenny gave is a cup run...
Never been happier to see a manager sacked.
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 15:03)
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:51
Hopefully any new manager can make an immediate impact because we need a few wins on the board. Should hopefulluck give them time to assess the squad before the next window and we can go into that with a plan as to what we need. A few decent loans might be needed.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:51
Kenny Miller says he's interested on sportsound .
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:52
Paralex wrote:
> Well, we might be about to find out how much of our present
> situation is down to the management and how much down to the
> players.
>
>
Grant has brought 11 new faces to the club including loans, if they aren`t good enough that`s down to Grant`s management
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:53
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Sun 31 Oct 14:51
Kenny Miller says he's interested on sportsound .
No thanks
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:56
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Sun 31 Oct 14:51
Kenny Miller says he's interested on sportsound .
Please no.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:56
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Sun 31 Oct 14:51
Kenny Miller says he's interested on sportsound .
Please no.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:57
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Sun 31 Oct 14:51
Kenny Miller says he's interested on sportsound .
Please no
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:00
What the last few posts have said.
No thanks.
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:02
No ta
East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:03
Kenny Miller it is then 😂
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:03
"There have already been several applicants for the vacant managerial position.
The likes of former Hamilton boss Brian Rice is likely to come under consideration."
daily record.....
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:06
Quote:
GJS93, Sun 31 Oct 15:03
"There have already been several applicants for the vacant managerial position.
The likes of former Hamilton boss Brian Rice is likely to come under consideration."
daily record.....
😂🤣😂 I can get plenty of laughs on here without reading that comic.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:09
I'd like to thank Grant for his service at EEP, He put his all into it, shame it didn't work
East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:10
Good riddance.
I never thought I'd see a manager worse than Tam Forsyth but he's surpassed it easily.
His kamikaze tactics at Ibrox should have set alarm bells going in every direction as to his nous as a football manager.
Whoever comes in, I hope we give them some time to sort through the mess that's left.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:23
Whoever it will be, will have the rest of the season, regardless of the results so we just need to get behind him and hope we can get ourselves safe.
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Topic Originator: purekozma
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:23
I have little faith in anybody that just holds a SFA license which I think means squiddly squat convince me otherwise, most success is with experience at the helm or at least within a trio of management.
It`s hard for anyone to really know the best candidate outside the game who has special skills of regrouping a team and build up the team spirit. I personally think the John Robertson, Paul Smith, Stewart Petrie, Dick Campbell, are names that have me thinking and I would also take the hard working Brian Rice as part of a team but not convinced as manager.
‘Get up, get out the house, why are you sitting in with your head in your hands? Get up and face people.’
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Topic Originator: DRreturns
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:26
Go and get John McGlynn from the wee team!
I’m here to take over!!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:30
McGlynn and Smith would do well but not sure how easy it would be to get them out of there ?
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:35
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sun 31 Oct 15:30
McGlynn and Smith would do well but not sure how easy it would be to get them out of there ?
Exactly. Compensation for Grant. Compensation to Rovers. Then you're only left with do they want to swap a club fighting for promotion for one likely to be embroiled in a relegation battle?
Pure fantasy.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:36
Does anyone know Grants contract term with us? It was never disclosed so who knows whether there is compensation required?
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:37
I was told it was short term hence the reason it was never published but there's a very real chance what I was told was wrong. Ask the board?
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:38
"Have we ever had a manager leave without winning a league game?"
I was beginning to think the board were about to give PG the chance to equal or overtake Frank Sauzee`s dismal winless league run at Hibs - was getting too close for comfort.
Adios Pedro.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:39
"I'd like to thank Grant for his service at EEP, He put his all into it, shame it didn't work"
Agreed, can't take any pleasure in how things turned out
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:48
Its never good to see someone lose their job. I wish him well. Its only a game after all. Hopefully however comes in can do something with the squad that we have.
I would prefer someone with managerial experience and proven track record.
The new BoD may cast their net a bit wider than Scotland.
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 15:49)
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:01
Take no pleasure in seeing someone lose their job.But let's all move forward,and get behind the club,starting,by turning up next Saturday.
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Topic Originator: par58
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:21
I do believe that the correct decision has been made and that the Club now needs to undertake proper due diligence in the selection of a new head coach/ manager. For Peter Grant himself I am sad that he had to suffer such vitriol, as I honestly believe he is a genuine guy who worked tirelessly to get the results for the club and the fans. It was not to be and he moves on, he is a seasoned campaigner and the vicious abuse he suffered, on here and elsewhere, will not, I hope, deter him from achieving his ambitions. I also sincerely hope that there are no further sackings, it is enough for one person to lose his livelihood and all too easy for those on here to glibly call for the coaches to be summarily dismissed and lose their livelihoods as well.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:48
par58 Nails it
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:59
Wonder if the players feel the same sense of relief as we fans do now that Peter Grant has left the club.
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:09
Ref: GG Riva
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:42
Quote:
eastendalloapar, Sun 31 Oct 14:28
"Has 271194 just got the fastest black card ever?
It has to be a record - black carded immediately after his first post. 🤣
I wonder what he said? Maybe someone who saw it could give us the jist of it without getting a black card?"
Judging by the preceding comment from pastry, something like: Yes, he is a lovely gentleman, sporting, magnanimous. Sad to see him go. All the best Peter from your best pal. xxx
Whatever it was 271194, I`m pretty sure I agree!
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 17:10)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:11
Statement from Peter Grant.
"I'd have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those pesky fans."
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:14
I'm using the app on Android and if you search for the username the posts are still visible there.
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:17
Was I close Kessel?
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:58
Big test now for the German investors, can`t afford to get this wrong.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 31 Oct 18:53
Quote:
par58, Sun 31 Oct 16:21
I do believe that the correct decision has been made and that the Club now needs to undertake proper due diligence in the selection of a new head coach/ manager. For Peter Grant himself I am sad that he had to suffer such vitriol, as I honestly believe he is a genuine guy who worked tirelessly to get the results for the club and the fans. It was not to be and he moves on, he is a seasoned campaigner and the vicious abuse he suffered, on here and elsewhere, will not, I hope, deter him from achieving his ambitions. I also sincerely hope that there are no further sackings, it is enough for one person to lose his livelihood and all too easy for those on here to glibly call for the coaches to be summarily dismissed and lose their livelihoods as well.
Good post. I would totally agree if he ever accepted responsibility but he always blamed the players.
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:07
In my role of Mental Health Ambassador for @officialdafc I would like to put on record my thanks to Peter Grant for all his support in raising Mental Health Awareness in the club in particular supporting me at all times
Tweet above from Eddie Martin. Well said and says a lot for PG. Certainly wish some on here were a little more thoughtful before commenting.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:20
Quote:
Kessel, Sun 31 Oct 17:14
I'm using the app on Android and if you search for the username the posts are still visible there.
Cheers I didn't know that was possible. Seems a harsh black card. I'd like to think we could handle that fairly soft level trolling amongst ourselves tbh.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:21
Mainly just by ignoring it!
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Topic Originator: bigdonnie
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:37
whoever takes job got 24games to save us i remember new manager in 1960 had 6games to save us won them all wonder who that was lol
donald mcneil
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:49
Heres what 271194 said. . . .
Terrible decision, he was doing a great job 🤣, can't believe it took you so long to get rid 😥.
Never worth a black card ? Ffs, we could do with banter on here.
Poor show admin.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:54
Quote:
Fethiyespar, Sun 31 Oct 16:59
Wonder if the players feel the same sense of relief as we fans do now that Peter Grant has left the club.
If thats the case may be a case of be careful what you wish for as far as the players are concerned. A new manager means new ideas and new direction.
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 19:56)
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:55
I obviously agree with Mikey.
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 19:55)
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Topic Originator: micwip
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:57
Never nice seeing someone lose their job. Never the most favourable of appointments until a decent showing in the cup (remember Pedro’s pars…). Hopefully the next appointment will have a more considered approach and bring in a manager who plays good football.
Its a hard life...
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:03
Obviously I made my thoughts on Grant (as a manager) clear before. I didn’t think he was the right man and thought we should have got rid of him a while ago. I do think the board handled this poorly and let it go on too long.
However, we are where we are and the board have made the correct decision today. For that, they deserve credit. I don’t doubt that Grant has done everything with the best interests of the club at heart and has given his all. It’s time to move on though and hopefully the board can prove critics (including me) wrong, by making a great appointment here.
The season so far has been a disaster and the task for the interim team and the new manager (when appointed) is enormous. It’s important that we back whoever is in charge and really get behind the team over the next wee while.
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Topic Originator: purekozma
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:09
It didnt work out at all with Grant, even with the law of averages thats one very poor stats been created with no benefits to anyone involved from top to bottom unless you had a few successful draw or lose bets 50/50 chance.
‘Get up, get out the house, why are you sitting in with your head in your hands? Get up and face people.’
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:17
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 31 Oct 14:13
Quote:
Kessel, Sun 31 Oct 14:07
Sunday bevy sesh on the cards now 🍾
Behave yersel, laddie! You can't celebrate a man losing his job.
On second thoughts, on this occasion it's a good reason to get smashed. 😃
Smashed would taking it a bit far for a Sunday GG but a good swallae is being had 😂
Not really for Peter Grant losing his job but mainly for the first time in ages I'm actually really looking forward to going to EEP this Saturday. COYP.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:19
Quote:
MikeyLeonard, Sun 31 Oct 19:49
Heres what 271194 said. . . .
Terrible decision, he was doing a great job 🤣, can't believe it took you so long to get rid 😥.
Never worth a black card ? Ffs, we could do with banter on here.
Poor show admin.
Ok I'm going to take an uneducated guess and say the black card wasnt for the content but for the poster who I am guessing was recently black carded and rejoined with a new handle.
Takes a birdbrain to work it out of course.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:21
Might be but I thought that looked more like an opposition fan on the wind up when they said "you".
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Topic Originator: srap
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:26
Thank goodness, at last! Hope it is Robbo!
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:29
Quote:
londonparsfan, Sun 31 Oct 20:21
Might be but I thought that looked more like an opposition fan on the wind up when they said "you".
Their username gives it away that it's a Wee Team fan.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:30
Good spot.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:06
Quote:
Kessel, Sun 31 Oct 20:29
Quote:
londonparsfan, Sun 31 Oct 20:21
Might be but I thought that looked more like an opposition fan on the wind up when they said "you".
Their username gives it away that it's a Wee Team fan.
What happened on 27/11/94? My memory's not that good.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:14
27/11/94 looks like this poster has had too much coke
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:19
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 31 Oct 21:06
Quote:
Kessel, Sun 31 Oct 20:29
Quote:
londonparsfan, Sun 31 Oct 20:21
Might be but I thought that looked more like an opposition fan on the wind up when they said "you".
Their username gives it away that it's a Wee Team fan.
What happened on 27/11/94? My memory's not that good.
League Cup final win against Celtic.
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Topic Originator: purekozma
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:21
Sat Oct 29 1994 L1 Raith Rovers 2-5 Dunfermline Athletic
‘Get up, get out the house, why are you sitting in with your head in your hands? Get up and face people.’
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:23
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purekozma, Sun 31 Oct 21:21
Sat Oct 29 1994 L1 Raith Rovers 2-5 Dunfermline Athletic
I was there, behind the goals in the absolute p*ssing rain. Loved it.
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 21:23)
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:26
A black card that FollowFollow would be proud of. Surely we can accept opposing fans on the forum ?
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Mon 1 Nov 11:17
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MDCCCLXXXV, Sun 31 Oct 14:45
What happens if new man doesn't win any of his 11 league games
I’d imagine if there was progress he would get more time as it isn’t his duds he’s putting out on the park it’s PG’s Stupid question really.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 1 Nov 11:23
I agree, the new man will need to be given time to bring his own players in. If he can sign a few players in January then he has to get to the end of the season. If he’s isn’t able to strengthen the squad in January, he will need to get to the first quarter of next season at least.
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Topic Originator: bannerpar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 14:20
That seems a very generous honeymoon period you`re prepared to put up if things don`t work out when you consider the Grant Out posts were appearing after two league games. What`s the difference - apart from tha the new man isn`t Peter Grant?
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Mon 1 Nov 14:25
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bannerpar, Mon 1 Nov 14:20
That seems a very generous honeymoon period you`re prepared to put up if things don`t work out when you consider the Grant Out posts were appearing after two league games. What`s the difference - apart from tha the new man isn`t Peter Grant?
I think it was down to how Grant was appointed with actual applicants being ignored...if due diligence us done in appointing the new guy there should be hopefully a bit more good will.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 1 Nov 14:30
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Rastapari, Mon 01 Nov 14:25
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bannerpar, Mon 1 Nov 14:20
That seems a very generous honeymoon period you`re prepared to put up if things don`t work out when you consider the Grant Out posts were appearing after two league games. What`s the difference - apart from tha the new man isn`t Peter Grant?
I think it was down to how Grant was appointed with actual applicants being ignored...if due diligence us done in appointing the new guy there should be hopefully a bit more good will.
Bannerpar’s comments are pertinent…..and bang on.
No way will fans give any manager that long, if results are deemed “not good enough”
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 1 Nov 15:43
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SergioDuarte, Sun 31 Oct 21:26
A black card that FollowFollow would be proud of. Surely we can accept opposing fans on the forum ?
Don't think we have done for a while. Banter from opposing fans is not allowed apparently.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Mon 1 Nov 16:22
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Raymie the Legend, Mon 1 Nov 14:30
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Rastapari, Mon 01 Nov 14:25
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bannerpar, Mon 1 Nov 14:20
That seems a very generous honeymoon period you`re prepared to put up if things don`t work out when you consider the Grant Out posts were appearing after two league games. What`s the difference - apart from tha the new man isn`t Peter Grant?
I think it was down to how Grant was appointed with actual applicants being ignored...if due diligence us done in appointing the new guy there should be hopefully a bit more good will.
Bannerpar’s comments are pertinent…..and bang on.
No way will fans give any manager that long, if results are deemed “not good enough”
I mean, no wins in the last 14 competitive fixtures for a team who were 'challenging' for the championship title is not good enough... More than just the results, Grant harked on about the attractive football we were going to play, which we never showed any signs of producing through his reign.
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Topic Originator: Perkins
Date: Mon 1 Nov 17:25
I think it was also the manner of the early defeats. They were complete car crashes caused by poor tactics and team selection which made the fans lose all confidence
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Mon 1 Nov 19:00
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Rastapari, Mon 1 Nov 14:25
I think it was down to how Grant was appointed with actual applicants being ignored...if due diligence us done in appointing the new guy there should be hopefully a bit more good will.
Maybe for some but I'd think the fact we were so horrifically bad in those opening games was more significant.
Stuff about the recruitment process, the board, his interviews, his record only really gets traction because of poor results and performances.
Post Edited (Mon 01 Nov 19:01)
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Mon 1 Nov 19:40
The new manager is also having to deal with sorting out Grants woeful signings, which will give them some leeway.
If results are still poor, there will of course be grumblings - it's the nature of the job - but they'll be given time to sort things out by the vast majority.
Given the way Grant was appointed and his previous track record, he needed to start strong to convince people. Poor signings, poor results, woeful performances all meant that many peoples early fears were realised.
Hopefully the board have learned their lesson.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 1 Nov 19:42
In fairness, Grant could have been a great appointment. He had part-timers playing well despite a tight budget. He was available for nothing and was happy to keep the existing coaching team. Sounds too good to be true.
However, you could have said the same about the likes of Dick Campbell (his part-timers may not play slick but they don't get relegated!). For transparency, I wouldn't have had Dick in. I think he'd do a good job, but I'd rather someone who would be here a good while. Perhaps that was the board thinking too? However, I would have still invited CVs and spoken to people. How do we know Petrie wasn't interested? Perhaps a combo of Campbell and Petrie could have been an option with agreement that Campbell hands over the reigns after a couple of seasons or when he decides he fancies retiring to somewhere warm?
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:34
Arbroath, as I recall, just survived last season. They were no great shakes. My impression was that they didn`t make wholesale changes but kept the basic framework of last season`s team just adding sparingly to strengthen what was already there. What we did was the opposite of that, starting the season with almost a whole new team and expecting them to succeed. Then when we eventually reverted to what was near enough last year`s team you could understand that most of those who had earlier been dropped found it much harder to dig themselves out of the hole of other people`s making.
Post Edited (Mon 01 Nov 20:37)
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Topic Originator: arpar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 21:20
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Paralex, Mon 1 Nov 20:34
Arbroath, as I recall, just survived last season. They were no great shakes. My impression was that they didn`t make wholesale changes but kept the basic framework of last season`s team just adding sparingly to strengthen what was already there. What we did was the opposite of that, starting the season with almost a whole new team and expecting them to succeed. Then when we eventually reverted to what was near enough last year`s team you could understand that most of those who had earlier been dropped found it much harder to dig themselves out of the hole of other people`s making.
Arbroath had a very poor start last season. Only 5 points from the first 9 games. They turned it around with excellent results in the 2nd 9 games by bringing in a couple of players on loan in the January window. They were well clear of Alloa by the end of the season.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 1 Nov 21:44
They did that without changing their manager and are now reaping the benefits this season. But as a part time team understandably, their aspirations may not have matched ours and their patience has seemed to pay off at this stage.
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Topic Originator: arpar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 21:48
I think the difference being that Campbell had already won League 2 and League 1 and finished 5th the year before in the Championship. Rightly had the full support of the board and the fans. Arbroath would have been aiming to finish 8th last year so certainly lower expectations. I think if Grant had been successful at the club over a number of years he would have got more time but you can't say your aiming to win the league and then not win a game in 12 and expect to still have your job.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 1 Nov 22:03
Yes, the Arbroath game was the last straw but I reckon PG wasn`t helped by making wholesale changes and expecting those he had sidelined to remedy the situation. It looked like fon Willams in particular had a very bad game.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 22:14
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Paralex, Mon 1 Nov 22:03
Yes, the Arbroath game was the last straw but I reckon PG wasn`t helped by making wholesale changes and expecting those he had sidelined to remedy the situation. It looked like fon Willams in particular had a very bad game.
Not one of Grants signings of course but he didn't bring in good players either
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