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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:52
It’s going to be an interesting one.
IMO there is a good team within our squad it’s just a case of finding it.
Do we go with tried and tested or maybe ask the Germans if they can come up with some alternatives?
I would hope that time will be given to this process & we don’t jump too quick at the wrong candidate.
My horse - Ian McCall - Has been for about the last 10 years, he knows what he’s doing & he’s a Pars man. IMO he would jump at it.
“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:54
I’d love to get Ian Mcall in.
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Topic Originator: Vamos Pars
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:56
Bring home Petrie. Won’t be cheap but he’s the ideal long term candidate IMO.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:58
Ian McCall lives across the road from me. I`ll nip over and ask him. To be honest lads you`re barking up the wrong tree. McCall is well settled in Glasgow and loves the Partick Thistle job. There`s no way he`s going to change that for bottom of the league Dunfermline.
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sun 31 Oct 14:59
I’d take the man who beat us yesterday. That being said he might no want it anymore.
Effe
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:02
With the dross at our disposal a big job awaits whoever it is.
Grant signed players to play to his system,see where that got us.
Miracle worker needed apply within.
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:04
How's about Man City striker Jesus
 East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:05
There’s plenty of good managers we aren’t aware of who will be keen to come to us. Let’s see what comes out of the process, personally I hope it’s someone out of left field who generates some excitement and anticipation because he’s largely unknown in the Scottish football Merry go round.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:07
My choice would be John Roberson but don't think he would take it so any of the following would be acceptable
Stewart Petrie, Dick Campbell or John Hughes
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:10
"I would hope that time will be given to this process & we don’t jump too quick at the wrong candidate"
taking your time doesnt guarantee the right candidate.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:11
I’d have liked Jim Duffy.
Pity Ayr snapped him up.
buffysbuns.wordpress.com
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:17
Quote:
MDCCCLXXXV, Sun 31 Oct 15:04
How's about Man City striker Jesus
His dad's a Pars fan, so why not.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:20
Quote:
MDCCCLXXXV, Sun 31 Oct 15:04
How's about Man City striker Jesus
Andy Tod's lesser known brother?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:22
I suspect most fans couldn`t give a toss about the recruitment process as long as the club appoints someone they approve of.
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Topic Originator: DRreturns
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:26
John McGlynn!
I’m here to take over!!
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Topic Originator: joesoap
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:30
It’s the classic problem. We need time, to get the right man, but we don’t have time to waste or we’ll be down and out. Let’s hope lessons have been learned and it’s not too late!
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Topic Originator: joesoap
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:35
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 15:36)
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Topic Originator: Hay Fever
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:35
Kenny Miller on BBC declaring his interest, giving it the its a Big club who wouldn’t be interested. Hummmm, I’m no too sure about that one. Kenny
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Topic Originator: Gadgie59
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:37
Stating the obvious, perhaps, but this one isn’t for the faint hearted.
For a game that lasts 90 minutes, football can be a game of fine margins.
What if QOS hadn’t scored in the last few minutes? What if Raith hadn’t last week? That would be an extra 4 points we’d have had.
I think though, to be 2-0 up against Arbroath and to then lose 4-2? Consider if this had happened to some other team .... Morton, QOS, Ayr; ok maybe not a major revelation. What about Kilmarnock, Inverness or perhaps Dundee?
I guess my point here is simply where do DAFC expect to be? Sadly most pars fans would not have been mightily surprised if they’d been told Friday night that they’d lose 4-2 the following day to Arbroath.
Given the quality of the current squad, I think the fans are entitled to expect better. I sincerely hope whoever is appointed to replace PG, that they have the guts and the bottle to deal with it. Expectations are high and there’s not a lot of room to manoeuvre.
“Football is a beautiful game,
It should be played beautifully.”
Brian Clough.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:42
In order of preference:
Dick Campbell
Stewart Petrie
John Robertson
Derek McIness
Ian Mccall.
Definitely don’t want yogi or Barry Ferguson.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:46
Robertson.
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Topic Originator: Lambo1885
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:47
Robertson or Petrie for me, really don't want Hughes.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:49
Quote:
Never10yairds, Sun 31 Oct 15:42
In order of preference:
Dick Campbell
Stewart Petrie
John Robertson
Derek McIness
Ian Mccall.
Definitely don’t want yogi or Barry Ferguson.
So McInnes, who has managed at the top level for years, is only 4th choice ?
Irrelevant, as we cannot afford him, nor would he want it, but strange all the same
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 15:50)
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Topic Originator: PilmuirPar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:52
Alex Neil. He’s been out the game over a year. Give him a rolling contract with a clause he can leave if a bigger club comes calling?
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:52
Dick Campbell as mentioned before is as far as I know virtually a septagenarian, if that`s how you spell it. He must be thinking it`s time to hang the bunnet up and baby sit his great grand kids. Nae slight intended Dick, I get the impression that some of our posters on this forum are of similar vintage and you would, I`m sure be welcome to join them on the keyboard in your dotage.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:54
It just shows how subjective football opinions are, Raymie. Fans say they want a rigorous recruitment process but come up with random, irrational choices themselves.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:55
Petrie
Yogi
Robertson.
Definitely a no to Brian rice & kenny miller for me.
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Topic Originator: Foghorn Leghorn
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:55
Alex Neil is an assistant manager to someone in the English Premiership, just can’t remember who.
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte
Date: Sun 31 Oct 15:55
Hopefully the board get this one right . Would anyone be surprised if they made an erse of it again and hired someone like Greg Shields ?
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:00
Quote:
SergioDuarte, Sun 31 Oct 15:55
Hopefully the board get this one right . Would anyone be surprised if they made an erse of it again and hired someone like Greg Shields ?
If it's Shields...then it's been nice but that'll be me done, I have my reasons.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Foghorn Leghorn
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:00
I’m guessing we’d have to pay compensation for the likes of Petrie, McCall, McGlynn.
I’ll stick with my first choice the last time round which is Hughes, but wouldn’t be surprised if McCann, Caldwell, Presley and Hartley aren’t mentioned.
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:01
Quote:
Foghorn Leghorn, Sun 31 Oct 15:55
Alex Neil is an assistant manager to someone in the English Premiership, just can’t remember who.
Pretty sure he is still unemployed but will be way out of our budget and his ambitions.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:06
I don't understand the clamour for Hughes at all, in the slightest.
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Topic Originator: Foghorn Leghorn
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:08
You’re right guys. I’m thinking of Billy Reid at Brighton…apologies.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:18
Please not Yogi, kenny Miller, Lee McCullough or Barry Ferguson.
I would however welcome back Jim Mcintyre. He’s available. He’s likely take it if offered.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:21
Whoever comes in has a job on their hands because, although they will likely be able to get more out of this group than PG did, i cannot see them turning a team rooted at the foot of the table into promotion winners. I`m reluctant to say that our player aren`t good enough but, trying to account for a manager who wasn`t getting the best out of them, I`m not convinced they are better than those at teams in the top half of this league.
Managers live or die by their recruitment and I`m not convinced Grant or Crawford have recruited players better than those i watched playing for Arbroath yesterday. I can`t think of a one player in our team yesterday that would have Dick Campbell thinking " yeah, you`ll make us better".
Also, looking at the league, promotion is gone. I can`t see the top 5 changing. We need to accept we are in a relegation battle, hopefully get out of it and hope that the new manager`s recruitment is better in the summer than his predecessor`s.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:22
Tin hat on - I don’t see the fuss over Petrie
I would welcome back McIntyre..
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:26
Steven Pressley was mentioned a few posts ago. Not sure if he would fit the bill at EEP. Seemingly he has a coaching job at Brentford, probably on 5 times the wage we could pay him.
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Topic Originator: FRED1981
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:33
Here is a surprise Tony Docherty
F muller
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:40
The one thing Petrie would surely be allowed is at least a few months to turn it around, especially by the .net massive.
Appoint Hughes/McIntyre/Rice for example, lose and we're back where we were.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:40
Untried manager , but seemingly pulling the strings at Starks Park ex Par Paul Smith
G.B
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:42
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 16:43)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 31 Oct 16:54
Yeah I don’t get yogi either, we’re in the same situation as raith were in before he went in and all hell broke lose. He’ll likely have learned a lot from that experience and singling out and criticising the players but still.
Robbo would be ideal. There’s an element of risk involved whoever gets the job and no one knows if there’s any budget in January’s to bring a midfield in so it’s all a bit of an unknown at this point.
Even if the new guy struggles to get us moving he’ll get more slack and time as he’s stuck with grants duds until the end of this season and in some cases next season!
Wonder whether dorrans would apply?
Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:05
Instead of dredging up the same old tired merry-go-round of previously failed Scottish managers, I would hope that our German directors might have a bit more ambition and scour Germany or the rest of Europe for someone they know with the right credentials to take this club back to where it should be?
Jimmy Calderwood was a great example of someone pulled from left field who was an excellent manager. Yes, he got money to spend, but he knew how to manage a club and tactically, was excellent.
Time to use the contacts they surely must have?
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Topic Originator: NikNakPar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:25
Neil Lennon.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:29
Careful Crosspar. You seem to be suggesting that we approach someone rather than going through an exhaustive process of advertising and only considering those who apply and supply their cv.
That approach will not go down well with some on here.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:33
Oh and I would take Ray McKinnon and he looks to be available.
Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!
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Topic Originator: Lenstar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:35
Petrie is one of my all time favourites would hate to see him take on the job only to be hounded out by the proverbial boo boys
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:42
Quote:
Berkey, Sun 31 Oct 17:33
Oh and I would take Ray McKinnon and he looks to be available.
Not for me, his time at Falkirk seemed to be synonymous with "spineless" and "gutless" surrenderings....we don't need any more of that.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:43
Agree with Rasta, McKinnon was a nightmare at Falkirk.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:48
Bookies have priced it.
Petrie 2/1 favourite
https://mcbookie.com/event/614304/next-permanent-dunfermline-manager
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte
Date: Sun 31 Oct 17:58
The Germans should dig deep and get Derek McInnes in .
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Topic Originator: Alan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 18:23
Surprised to see that Craig Levein hasn`t been mentioned anywhere.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sun 31 Oct 18:25
Quote:
Alan, Sun 31 Oct 18:23
Surprised to see that Craig Levein hasn`t been mentioned anywhere.
He hates us and plays anti football...maybe best it stays quiet about him.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: 1970par
Date: Sun 31 Oct 18:37
I like the option of Paul Smith (perhaps with Jimmy Nic as no 2)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 31 Oct 18:43
I dont want Levien but I have no idea why folk say he hates us.
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Topic Originator: Cleveland12
Date: Sun 31 Oct 18:43
Peter’s seat isn’t even cold and this thread is making me miss him. Some honking suggestions here. Hughes, McKinnon, Presley!! Give yourselves a shake 😂
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 31 Oct 18:47
That’s a catch 22 Sergio, getting him in would devastate any budget for him to bring in players!
Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Sun 31 Oct 18:49
Ian Holloway at 12s with mcbookie.
There's a few names.i haven't heard of before too.
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 18:50)
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Sun 31 Oct 18:50
I'd absolutely take Levein.
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Sun 31 Oct 18:53
Quote:
Lenstar, Sun 31 Oct 17:35
Petrie is one of my all time favourites would hate to see him take on the job only to be hounded out by the proverbial boo boys
If he was successful why would there be boo boys ?
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 18:54
It is interesting to see a couple of continental managers on the mcbookie list.
Markus Kauczinski, a German, who has formerly managed Karlsruher, Ingolstadt, St Pauli and Dynamo Dresden.
Jan Kocian, a Czech, has managed club sides in the Chinese Super League and Hong Kong First Division, the Yemeni national side, and three Polish clubs.
Invariably, there is a reason to explain why names appear on bookies lists, and they are not always obvious. It is nice to have some new names to consider and investigate...
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 31 Oct 18:58
Quote:
Grant, Sun 31 Oct 18:50
I'd absolutely take Levein.
I wouldnt for reasons outside football.
Can't say why because I can't prove it but I know it's true.
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:14
Quote:
OzPar, Sun 31 Oct 18:54
It is interesting to see a couple of continental managers on the mcbookie list.
Markus Kauczinski, a German, who has formerly managed Karlsruher, Ingolstadt, St Pauli and Dynamo Dresden.
Jan Kocian, a Czech, has managed club sides in the Chinese Super League and Hong Kong First Division, the Yemeni national side, and three Polish clubs.
Invariably, there is a reason to explain why names appear on bookies lists, and they are not always obvious. It is nice to have some new names to consider and investigate...
Mc bookie tweeted asking who to have on a list of potential managers. All the ones you’ve listed are from fans commenting on the tweet.
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:14
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 31 Oct 18:58
Quote:
Grant, Sun 31 Oct 18:50
I'd absolutely take Levein.
I wouldnt for reasons outside football.
Can't say why because I can't prove it but I know it's true.
Start the rumour then😏
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Topic Originator: gegganpar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:17
Javier clemente?
J angus blacklaws
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:19
Quote:
kba, Sun 31 Oct 19:14
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 31 Oct 18:58
Quote:
Grant, Sun 31 Oct 18:50
I'd absolutely take Levein.
I wouldnt for reasons outside football.
Can't say why because I can't prove it but I know it's true.
Start the rumour then😏
Lol. Jist canny.
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Topic Originator: bigdonnie
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:25
luckily we have still 24 games left to save ourselves unluckily first game 6pointer v bogey team morton remember 1982 we were struggling manager changed team around brought in new boys upfront called mccathie and stewart pars won 3-2 at dumfries was there on my birthday 21stfeb after that we started winning games and were saved
donald mcneil
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:25
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 31 Oct 19:19
Quote:
kba, Sun 31 Oct 19:14
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 31 Oct 18:58
Quote:
Grant, Sun 31 Oct 18:50
I'd absolutely take Levein.
I wouldnt for reasons outside football.
Can't say why because I can't prove it but I know it's true.
Start the rumour then😏
Lol. Jist canny.
🙄🙄🙄 Not even a wee clue😉. Not sure if he still does but he liked a place at the crossroads in rosyth a bit to much.
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Topic Originator: purekozma
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:27
We could be suprised like a Jimmy Calderwood type appointment , maybe someone from a much higher level out of work wanting a new challenge, he`ll need to command some respect from our current staff and players too.
No idea how they will be able to refresh squad in January or even offload a few to balance the books. Did our board not bring in McNamara a couple of seasons ago to help direct the football side and guess its Meggle who advises now.
Just hope the board can create a smart contract to protect the club better next time around with new appointments as the board had too many mistakes before paying off managers and assistants for the full contract other than a third of any months remaining type. (in hope as its reoccuring too often)
‘Get up, get out the house, why are you sitting in with your head in your hands? Get up and face people.’
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:28
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 31 Oct 18:43
I dont want Levien but I have no idea why folk say he hates us.
I used to work with his wife at the Visa center and she told me on more than one occasion he hates us.
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Topic Originator: bigdonnie
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:28
still got 24 games to save ourselves got good players if only would have faith in thereselves in 1982 were at bottom of div 1 manager brought in mcathie and stewart upfront we won 3-2 at dumfries went on good run and saved ourselves can do it again annoying though first game 6 pointer v bogey mob morton
donald mcneil
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Topic Originator: OldInnPar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:33
Quote:
1970par, Sun 31 Oct 18:37
I like the option of Paul Smith (perhaps with Jimmy Nic as no 2)
One who never managed before the other chased out of Dundee as assistant…..thank goodness your not involved with anything
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Topic Originator: smithy
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:36
Derek McInnes for me
smithy
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:39
Topic Originator: OldInnPar like | nolike
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:33
Quote:
1970par, Sun 31 Oct 18:37
I like the option of Paul Smith (perhaps with Jimmy Nic as no 2)
One who never managed before the other chased out of Dundee as assistant…..thank goodness your not involved with anything
Only a Dunfermline man through and through and a superb fundraiser for the club OIP and its his opinion like many others on here .. back in yer cupboard son
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:40
Quote:
Cleveland12, Sun 31 Oct 18:43
Peter’s seat isn’t even cold and this thread is making me miss him. Some honking suggestions here. Hughes, McKinnon, Presley!! Give yourselves a shake 😂
In yogis most recent job he kept Ross County up when they were 4 points a drift.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:47
Quote:
gordi-b, Sun 31 Oct 16:40
Untried manager , but seemingly pulling the strings at Starks Park ex Par Paul Smith
Boy at work is a Rovers fan and always says it's actually Smith that's the brains of the operation at the wee team.
Probably not the time for a first time managerial appointment right now. Would 100% take him working behind someone else.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:55
The preference from me and in this order.
John Robertson
Ian McCall
Jim McIntyre
Can’t see McCall leaving Partick however unfortunately.
Not the time for Petrie. McGlynn wouldn’t leave Raith, stock is still high for McInnes I would’ve thought.
Kenny Miller and Brian Rice can stay away.
Too risky I’d think trying a foreign manager, first and foremost we need someone who knows this league who’s had proven success in it.
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Topic Originator: OldInnPar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:55
Quote:
Buspasspar, Sun 31 Oct 19:39
Topic Originator: OldInnPar like | nolike
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:33
Quote:
1970par, Sun 31 Oct 18:37
I like the option of Paul Smith (perhaps with Jimmy Nic as no 2)
One who never managed before the other chased out of Dundee as assistant…..thank goodness your not involved with anything
Only a Dunfermline man through and through and a superb fundraiser for the club OIP and its his opinion like many others on here .. back in yer cupboard son
Behave, a fundraiser so you can’t question his opinion. Back in your own box more like
Anybody that thinks we need to recruit a manager who’s never managed is quite frankly delusional
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:55
Because we have stuck with Grant for too long, we are in a fairly desperate situation. I feel like we need experience - at least in the short term, to see out this season. In the summer, or a month or 2 ago, I’d have taken Petrie (or another less experienced manager) and been willing to give them a bit of time to adapt. But I’m concerned that we don’t have any time to give the new manager. Whoever comes in needs to pick up results quickly. I’ll back whoever we appointed, it’s a very difficult appointment to get right though, a third of the way through the season.
What I would say, is if we do get a less experienced manager I hope we allow them (and encourage them) to bring in a more experienced assistant/member of the coaching team. This is where I felt Crawford let himself down. Really could have done with an experienced head on his coaching team, who could help him out more.
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Sun 31 Oct 19:57
Billy Davies? Ex player, chance he would within budget since he's been out he game for years. Things ended badly at Forrest, maybe issues there stopping him getting back in or not wanting back in? According to wiki he did apply for hearts in 2017? Would be a gamble.
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Topic Originator: 1970par
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:01
When McGlynn was off work last year for a considerable amount of time did Paul Smith not have the wee team top of the league?
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:02
What about Stephen Robinson?
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:07
Can you imagine how much Raith fans would hate us if we took Paul Smith.
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:11
Quote:
Parfect69, Sun 31 Oct 20:02
What about Stephen Robinson?
He's managing a team down south.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:12
Quote:
rikaka, Sun 31 Oct 19:57
Billy Davies? Ex player, chance he would within budget since he's been out he game for years. Things ended badly at Forrest, maybe issues there stopping him getting back in or not wanting back in? According to wiki he did apply for hearts in 2017? Would be a gamble.
There's something in his personal life that's stopping him being offered jobs and it's not the well publicised Tommy Sheridan stuff. You can find an interview where he's talking about potentially taking legal action to try and stop the rumours he believes are preventing him being offered jobs. Definitely has the CV if he can get past whatever it is that seems to have blacklisted him.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:22
Billy Davies story I think you were referring to:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2017/sep/09/billy-davies-nottingham-forest-derby-county-no-job-smear-campaign
Still 4 years later he hasn’t had a job….. Would be a gamble. Obviously talented manager but could be a disaster if some terrible story broke within weeks.
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:27
His CV though is waaayyy above our station and in normal circumstances it would have no chances. A gamble I would take.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:29
Quote:
rikaka, Sun 31 Oct 20:27
His CV though is waaayyy above our station and in normal circumstances it would have no chances. A gamble I would take.
I don't know mate. You shouldn't make assumptions but folk have come back from jail sentences and managed to get employed again. He's a good manager and still can't get a job. It's either something spurious or something really bad.
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:39
True but if it was that bad he'd be locked up or at the very least it would be common knowledge?
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 31 Oct 20:40
Also true. Its a really weird situation.
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:07
Quote:
Paralex, Sun 31 Oct 14:58
Ian McCall lives across the road from me. I`ll nip over and ask him. To be honest lads you`re barking up the wrong tree. McCall is well settled in Glasgow and loves the Partick Thistle job. There`s no way he`s going to change that for bottom of the league Dunfermline.
Did he not leave Ayr, who were in the top 5, to manage Partick who were bottom at the time? I do think he loves Partick though.
I would like McColl, John Robertson but please, please not Yogi Hughes 😱😱!
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:09
Scott Brown, player/manager?
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Topic Originator: vasco
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:16
It`s going to be Messi as player manager. He would have come in the summer but miss-read Pars for Paris.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:22
Quote:
k76, Sun 31 Oct 21:09
Scott Brown, player/manager?
Not a situation for a rookie imo...
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:30
I’d take Brown as a player/ manager without question . Him in the middle of the park and we’d be laughing . Never going to happen though .
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:34
Post Edited (Sun 31 Oct 21:37)
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Topic Originator: Diablop4r
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:35
It`s a NO from me for Dick, Yogi, Petrie, Young, K Miller
I would take Alex Neil, Robertson or Jim McIntyre, D Mcinnes, not convinced we could afford Neil or McInnes
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 21:37
Ian Hollaway moving up the bookies rankings …
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Topic Originator: Bovril Man
Date: Sun 31 Oct 22:15
I hope there’s no more substance to Kenny Miller as a candidate than him bumping his own gums.
The guy did nothing down here in Oz as assistant manager for 2 years; most recently, he was utterly unable to get even the hint of a tune out of Graham Dorrans at Western Sydney Wanderers last season. Talks a big game, if you heard him last week on ‘Open Goal’, but can’t convert that into on-field success. Not what we need right now.
My preference would be Robbo, with Meggle carrying some of the load so Robbo could style the role to best fit his circumstances. Failing that, Petrie. Someone who has actually enjoyed success in the dugout, both in Oz and Scotland.
BM.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Sun 31 Oct 22:17
Someone’s just sent me links to a director’s son tweeting that we’ve headhunted Robbo and he’s got an interview tomorrow.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 31 Oct 22:21
We’ve just relieved a former part time manager. Why would we get another one in ie Petrie?
It’s an established experienced former full time manager we need, someone who can deal with a big budget, knows this league and gets the best out of a full time team.
buffysbuns.wordpress.com
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Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff
Date: Sun 31 Oct 22:21
Ian Holloway was on open goal podcast just last week saying he'd love a go at scottish football. Not sure he meant a team at the bottom of the championship but you never know.
Hes a hardworking, straight talking, honest and organized manager.
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte
Date: Sun 31 Oct 22:23
Directors son sending tweets ?
That’s an absolute low point if that’s the case. I’ll put money on knowing who it as well . Get these clowns gutted Dunfermline
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Sun 31 Oct 22:28
Billy Davies a gamble? More like a suicide note for DAFC. He sounds like Peter Grant on steroids.
"I will not jump back in to a St Mirren, a Dundee United, a Hearts, with all due respect to these clubs. I know I am a very good football manager. I will not jump back into football and take a job that is beneath me.
"A smear campaign has driven me away. For whatever reason, they have decided to take away from me something that I love. They have put my career on pause. But I`ll be back soon. I don`t think there is any doubt that one day I will be back at the top of football.``
Davies has never actually been at the top of football, neither as a player nor a manager. His short stint as Derby manager in the top division yielded 6 points from 14 games, very much Peter Grant standard. He has by his own account been legally fighting, since 2017, a conspiracy against him. So far without much reported success.
sammer
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte
Date: Sun 31 Oct 22:31
I’d take Billy Davies . The stuff about the group sex with Tommy Sheridan shouldn’t stop him from getting involved in football .
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Topic Originator: DunPar
Date: Sun 31 Oct 22:47
Yes to -
Mcinnes
Davies
Brown
Maybe -
Petrie
Robertson
Mcintyre
Definite no to :
Levein
Campbell
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sun 31 Oct 22:48
A tweet just surfaced there saying talks are underway between Montrose and Dunfermline to allow us to talk to him. Whether it`s true or not is another thing. I`d be delighted with Petrie, Robbo or Yogi but they would have to bring their own staff in. As much as I like Shields, I think him and Whittaker have to move on to allow a manager to bring his own staff in.
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Topic Originator: parzdaft
Date: Sun 31 Oct 22:54
A manager from a part time club isn`t going to cut it. Break the bank (or the money fans on here like me pay who actually attend games and don`t boo from their keyboards) and secure John Robertson. Give him a vision and make it happen please :)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 31 Oct 23:01
John Robertson is the outstanding candidate
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 31 Oct 23:01
Wonder if Petrie as part time assistant to Robbo would work. Petrie keeps his main job and security whilst proving himself at a higher level and learning from a very good and experienced manager.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Sun 31 Oct 23:07
A part time assistant? Absolutely not. You can’t have an assistant manager that can’t make any training sessions. Part time clubs train in the evenings, as players and staff generally have full time jobs. We train during the day, when Petrie will be working at the bank.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 31 Oct 23:10
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 31 Oct 23:01
Wonder if Petrie as part time assistant to Robbo would work. Petrie keeps his main job and security whilst proving himself at a higher level and learning from a very good and experienced manager.
Wouldn't be much use being a part time assistant manager, if he has a decent 9 to 5 job he has to work at. Unless every other coach and player had to train at night just to suit him
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 31 Oct 23:12
Quote:
red-star-par, Sun 31 Oct 23:10
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 31 Oct 23:01
Wonder if Petrie as part time assistant to Robbo would work. Petrie keeps his main job and security whilst proving himself at a higher level and learning from a very good and experienced manager.
Wouldn't be much use being a part time assistant manager, if he has a decent 9 to 5 job he has to work at. Unless every other coach and player had to train at night just to suit him
Yeah that seems obvious now lol. Ah well, back tae sleepzzzzzzzz
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Topic Originator: fly boy
Date: Sun 31 Oct 23:27
Petrie is my choice, he’s done a good job at Montrose, and a fans favourite. Forget Alex Neil, he lives near Preston, can’t see him uprooting to come to a bottom of the league club.
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Topic Originator: steaua
Date: Mon 1 Nov 01:06
I am mesmirised with all the clammering for ex Pars Players to become the next manager. I would like someone with good experience of how to run a football team, not too young, and not too old, but someone who demands respect and not afraid to kick a*** when needed. And good man management skils.
Post Edited (Mon 01 Nov 03:31)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 1 Nov 07:39
Unsure if the person making the claims is actually a director's son, but still a poor show having people posting this sort of information out on social media. Can people not keep their mouths shut?
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Mon 1 Nov 08:00
Mark Fotheringham being quoted this morning had a quite successful spell working in Germany seemingly, might be a Meggle connection
G.B
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Mon 1 Nov 08:03
I can remember before Grant was appointed that maybe the German consortium might know of a quality manager in perhaps a lower division in Europe(specifically Germany) and I was ridiculed. I would welcome someone different who could use us as a stepping stone.
Out of the Scottish chaps mentioned only Robbo interests me, I don`t know enough about Petrie as a manager to endorse him.
Holloway would be fabulous but I think he would only go to the SPL.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Mon 1 Nov 08:12
Same here Kozma , sick of the the usual suspects being bandied about, certainly don,t want another failed dud
G.B
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Topic Originator: BoAPar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 08:52
Mark Fotheringham is an interesting shout...
Certainly likely to tick a lot of boxes, and apparently turned down a Bundesliga 2 job in June.
Has talked a big game in previous interviews, but does seem to be well connected and has his UEFA A Licence?
Whoever it is, will they want to bring in their own team or stick with Shields and Whittaker?
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Mon 1 Nov 08:54
Quote:
gordi-b, Mon 1 Nov 08:00
Mark Fotheringham being quoted this morning had a quite successful spell working in Germany seemingly, might be a Meggle connection
Been told he's likely to take the Cowdenbeath job.
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Topic Originator: FRED1981
Date: Mon 1 Nov 09:22
Rice favourite according to the daily Ran/Cel no way back to square one .
F muller
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Topic Originator: BoAPar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 09:24
I know we`re bad at the moment, but I don`t think anyone is going to be signing on to manage a team at the bottom of Division 3, if they have a chance to interview for a job in Division 1 (unless it`s a Petrie type situation...).
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 1 Nov 09:25
jake89 yes it is the son of a director.
dont think there is a direct connection between Fotheringham and Meggle but not surprised his name has been linked after working in Germany for a few years. it would be some come down for him to end up at Cowdenbeath though from that, Maurice Ross was the latest frontrunner for that gig i read.
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Topic Originator: Jacko Par42
Date: Mon 1 Nov 09:32
I read that too about Ross being linked with the Cowden gig. Not sure about Fotheringham 🤔🤔. IMO need someone who knows this league and what it takes, especially to steer us off the bottom of the table
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 1 Nov 09:38
Quote:
FRED1981, Mon 1 Nov 09:22
Rice favourite according to the daily Ran/Cel no way back to square one .
There's going to be a lot of garbage written until we appoint someone. I won't believe a word of it.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 1 Nov 09:40
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 01 Nov 09:38
Quote:
FRED1981, Mon 1 Nov 09:22
Rice favourite according to the daily Ran/Cel no way back to square one .
There's going to be a lot of garbage written until we appoint someone. I won't believe a word of it.
100%
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Mon 1 Nov 09:48
Quote:
GJS93, Mon 1 Nov 09:25
jake89 yes it is the son of a director.
dont think there is a direct connection between Fotheringham and Meggle but not surprised his name has been linked after working in Germany for a few years. it would be some come down for him to end up at Cowdenbeath though from that, Maurice Ross was the latest frontrunner for that gig i read.
Just reread the text that I got and it is Ross not Fotheringham that is expected to get the job. Doh! Sorry folks.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Mon 1 Nov 10:41
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 1 Nov 09:38
Quote:
FRED1981, Mon 1 Nov 09:22
Rice favourite according to the daily Ran/Cel no way back to square one .
There's going to be a lot of garbage written until we appoint someone. I won't believe a word of it.
This.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Mon 1 Nov 10:58
It has to be a manager who will make these players fight and scrap for every point to get us to 3rd bottom.
Hughes could fit the bill and possibly Dick.
Don`t think I`d want them long term though,.we will see..
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 1 Nov 10:58
you`ve not even had your chance to elaborate on your reasons to hate Greg Shields yet... lot more rubbish postings to come all around.
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Mon 1 Nov 11:14
Quote:
FRED1981, Mon 1 Nov 09:22
Rice favourite according to the daily Ran/Cel no way back to square one .
The Daily Record say that Brian Rice has emerged as an early contender for the Pars job.
When you actually read the article though it just goes on about Peter Grant being sacked and then the very last part says "The likes of former Hamilton boss Brian Rice is likely to come under consideration."
So basically just pulling a name out of thin air to create a headline. Typical DR garbage.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 1 Nov 11:14
Really hope it’s just paper talk re: rice. I remember thinking the same thing with Grant.
It’s early days, hopefully this time the board interview a few candidates and make the right hire. I was optimistic they would get it right in the summer and was gutted when they chose Grant. Lessons have hopefully been learned though. This decision is absolutely critical to the clubs future and I ache with every fibre of my being that they get it spot on. In the meantime we must all get behind the team on Saturday, 3 points against Morton is huge considering our predicament.
Coyp
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Mon 1 Nov 11:24
I think the phrasing of the statement issued about Peter Grant’s departure clearly suggested lessons had been learned and this time the selection process will be different. We all make mistakes, but what is critical is we learn from them and don’t make the same mistake again. Let’s hope that this time the appointment is a success and together with the new investors we can move the club forward and achieve the longer term vision they have set out.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 1 Nov 11:29
There is no guarantee that the new manager will be a success, however, a thorough and disciplined process should mean that you arrive at the best candidate for the job?
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: GG4
Date: Mon 1 Nov 11:31
We need to be aiming a lot higher than the likes of Rice, Duffy Hopkin etc.
Would like to see something different than the usual merry go round of jobbers and failed managers.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Mon 1 Nov 11:33
I seriously hope we don`t consider Mark Fotheringham but I wouldn`t be surprised if he`s high up on the list of Meggle`s candidates due to the German link. That would be another gamble as he is unproven as a manager. As a coach, it sounds like he would be an asset but we need someone who has proven to be a success at other clubs as a manager.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Mon 1 Nov 12:22
Quote:
RossF, Mon 1 Nov 11:33
I seriously hope we don`t consider Mark Fotheringham but I wouldn`t be surprised if he`s high up on the list of Meggle`s candidates due to the German link. That would be another gamble as he is unproven as a manager. As a coach, it sounds like he would be an asset but we need someone who has proven to be a success at other clubs as a manager.
What about the manager who Fotheringham was assistant too?
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Mon 1 Nov 12:39
Tomas Oral? Don`t know too much about him Grant, did they not achieve promotion to the Bundesliga 2 with Ingostadt? I still fear appointing someone from another country with no experience in Scotland would be a gamble.
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Topic Originator: maradona86
Date: Mon 1 Nov 12:46
Ian Cathro….
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 1 Nov 12:47
every appointment is a gamble whether you take a day, a week or a month, whether its a young coach, a proven manager or a unknown foreign manager/coach.
"There is no guarantee that the new manager will be a success"
the only guarantee you get is they will leave at some point.
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Topic Originator: Cu-Par
Date: Mon 1 Nov 12:57
Cathro - Definitely not !!!
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Topic Originator: The moose
Date: Mon 1 Nov 13:04
Quote:
Cu-Par, Mon 1 Nov 12:57
Cathro - Definitely not !!!
He's assistant manager at spurs
BCM
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Mon 1 Nov 13:07
He got let go after Nuno got the bullet. Would take him as a coach no chance as a manager although I suspect that was tongue in cheek
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 1 Nov 13:07
he`s gone, along with Nuno
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Mon 1 Nov 13:27
Courier quoting that Mark Fotheringham is in contention and interested.
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 1 Nov 14:01
Quote:
DunfyDave, Mon 1 Nov 13:27
Courier quoting that Mark Fotheringham is in contention and interested.
The Courier called Peter Grant's appointment, so I wouldn't immediately poo poo this, but I can't believe our BoD would repeat their previous mistake. Fotheringham would be a gamble though.
In our position, we can ill afford a gamble.....
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Citizen Par
Date: Mon 1 Nov 14:48
TBF every managerial appointment is a gamble. Doesn`t matter who it is. All we know is we couldn`t carry on as before so a change was needed. Hopefully this time the punt will be successful.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Mon 1 Nov 15:18
The thing about this league in particular is it’s the same merry go round of players who jump from club to club each season. Most teams only sign players on one year deals, 2 at a push.. then they’re off to another club around the same level. whoever we appoint needs to have his finger on the pulse about recruitment at this level IMO. Id take Robertson in a heartbeat, would be the best managerial appointment we’ve made in years.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Mon 1 Nov 16:30
Peter Grant knew this league and what it takes , look how that ended
G.B
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Mon 1 Nov 17:05
Quote:
gordi-b, Mon 01 Nov 16:30
Peter Grant knew this league and what it takes , look how that ended
Aye.. but that’s the one and only thing he had going for him!
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 17:14
Daily record reporting that Scott Calderwood, Jimmy’s son has expressed his interest.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 17:20
Quote:
RMGpar, Mon 1 Nov 17:14
Daily record reporting that Scott Calderwood, Jimmy’s son has expressed his interest.
Interesting. If he is as good as his old man, he would do
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Mon 1 Nov 17:21
Quote:
CrossPar, Mon 1 Nov 17:20
Quote:
RMGpar, Mon 1 Nov 17:14
Daily record reporting that Scott Calderwood, Jimmy’s son has expressed his interest.
Interesting. If he is as good as his old man, he would do
Would only get a fraction of the war chest...
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 17:26
Quote:
Rastapari, Mon 1 Nov 17:21
Quote:
CrossPar, Mon 1 Nov 17:20
Quote:
RMGpar, Mon 1 Nov 17:14
Daily record reporting that Scott Calderwood, Jimmy’s son has expressed his interest.
Interesting. If he is as good as his old man, he would do
Would only get a fraction of the war chest...
Very true, would be working with completely different resources.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Mon 1 Nov 17:32
He`s a young coach. Too early in his career too try and turn this shower around.
We need a manager to make these players fitter and demand they press for every ball. None of this shambling exhausted zombie nonsense giving the opposition all the time and space they desire.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 17:50
They should already be fit. Lack of fitness is not the problem.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Mon 1 Nov 17:58
Quote:
CrossPar, Mon 1 Nov 17:50
They should already be fit. Lack of fitness is not the problem.
Buy they're not fit, they were run off the park by part timers at the weekend.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 1 Nov 18:03
I’d agree our team doesn’t have the fitness levels it should for what it’s worth.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Mon 1 Nov 18:06
I am surprised very few have mentioned the apparent lack of Impact the coaching team have provided the team in the last couple of seasons under Crawford and Grant, not withstanding more people losing their jobs I think a clear out in terms of management and coaching is required.
I like the thought of Campbell for a couple of seasons to lay the groundwork and dig us out the mire which I am sure he would with a Petrie or Paul Smith as assistant and ready to take over when Dick retires.
Alternatively Petrie with Jimmy Nic as assistant also sounds sensible.
I don`t think a left field appointment would be the correct call under current circumstances.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Mon 1 Nov 18:28
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Never10yairds, Mon 1 Nov 18:03
I’d agree our team doesn’t have the fitness levels it should for what it’s worth.
Nowhere near, it may seem at odds with recent life choices (recently rectified) but I know a bit about fitness...and those players are not as fit as they should be.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 1 Nov 18:31
Fa1968, I like the way you are thinking regarding Campbell or Petrie.
I too have concerns about the coaching staff. Our players do not appear well coached. Fitness doesn’t look as good as it should.
It may put some potential managers off not having the ability to pick their own back room team.
New coaches would bring new perspectives, training routines and ways to improve our players. Do our squad like the coaches? Find them insightful?
Maybe all is well and they are excellent. I genuinely don’t know. I have been wondering tho.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 1 Nov 18:34
Have to agree re: coaching.
Without wanting to add fuel to a fire I've genuinely not heard what Shields and Whittaker have contributed to arrest the current form. Shields in particular last season where we were murder for a very very long period.
Most managers would tend to want to pull in their own staff dependant on what needs done. This however would also often see a 'management team' lose their jobs, manager first as the figurehead and the rest shortly after.
I wonder if it discourages some managers being told basically, 'its just you, the rest of the staff you need are here....'
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Topic Originator: par-4-life
Date: Mon 1 Nov 18:37
Why the obsession with an experienced manager. As long as the new manager gets the team winning football matches that’s all that matters at this stage.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 18:38
There is no excuse for a full time club not having fit players. Or is it lack of effort, rather than fitness? Having said that, Grant has played players who are not fit. Dow is nothing like what he was, and Wilson coming on as sub the last few games is miles off the pace. So really, it is not that the players in general are not fit, it is the manager putting unfit players in the team.
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Topic Originator: Parahandy
Date: Mon 1 Nov 18:43
Paul Smith has been a manager - a 7 year spell at Berwick
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 1 Nov 18:47
I,personally have no idea what Shields and Whittaker have contributed this season but I have a feeling it has not been much…………..
Can we afford to offload them too? If not, the new manager will be stuck not just with players whose have been underperforming but possibly two coaches also.
Every good manager has a good right hand man beside him.
I don’t think either of those two can be considered to be a good right hand man somehow….
Don’t think I have ever seen either one of them barking instructions from the sidelines during any game. Just sitting there like rabbits caught in the headlights.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 1 Nov 18:49
I agree the coaching team needs questioned, but unless you are at the training session how can you know what Shields and Whittaker contribute?
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 1 Nov 18:51
^^ correct.
if question marks are there on fitness too, isnt that on Paul Green the sports scientist/fitness coach?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 1 Nov 19:01
Up until yesterday all the team`s deficiencies were down to one man. Now apparently the coaching staff are complicit and the players aren`t fit. I can`t say I`ve noticed any evidence of the latter.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 1 Nov 19:03
I’d like a manager to have the option of bringing in their own assistant rather than having shields forced on him. Again, the guy might be great, I don’t know, ultimately it should be the new managers opinion of him that matters.
Same goes for Whitaker, if the new manager doesn’t want him then he should be history.
I’m sure Campbell wouldn’t take it without bringing his brother as assistant for example. Other candidates will have their own preferred assistant.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Mon 1 Nov 19:08
Maybe aye maybe no wee eck, but it does feel like the whole management structure at the club is stale, keeping the coaching team in place for Grant didn`t work.
Possibly kept in pla e due to finances but I don`t know.
I may be wrong but I can`t see what Shields or Whittaker have brought to the party.
From memory it seemed to go downhill when Calum Davidson left to go to STJ.
Not saying they are a problem I just don`t see what they have done for the last 2 seasons in terms of 1st team performances in a positive manner.
Post Edited (Mon 01 Nov 19:12)
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 1 Nov 19:16
As I said, not trying to fuel a witch hunt.
Without inside knowledge we have to base what we think on results and performances.
We all know the stats around how poor the results were last season and they've actually been even worse through the first qtr of this season.
I don't know what goes on at training, the coaches may be making a huge contribution. If they are making us a better team then they should absolutely stay.
If however we accept the position that they are a very good coaching staff then you have to wonder what results would have been like without their input surely? Could they have been worse?
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Mon 1 Nov 19:18
Worse???Really
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Topic Originator: bannerpar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 19:23
I don`t know how good Shields and Whittaker are either but our forwards seem to play as individuals and not as a unit. When Martin Hardie was co-commentating for Pars TV on the Hamilton game it was an eye opener for a standard punter like myself the way he was picking up all sorts of things he felt could be improved in the positional play of the forwards (and midfield). Here`s hoping that whoever we get can do something about that as it certainly needs improving.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 19:25
I`m glad the fitness point was raised earlier as I wanted to question the teams fitness but wis feart of the possible reaction .. There have been many games this season and many last season when I thought our guys did not look 100% fit .. Part time teams looked fitter and faster than us .. or maybe and its a big maybe they had more desire than us to play for their manager .. just an observation
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 1 Nov 19:31
Is it a coincidence that we have struggled for goals this season and not one of the coaches played up front during their careers ?
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 1 Nov 19:33
There are three main groups who determine how the team performs:
1. The manager
2. The coach(es)
3. The players.
I don't think the players are unfit, I think they're unhappy.
If Grant hadn't made dodgy subs in the wee team game we might have won and gone into the Arbroath game on a high. It's a big if but I feel a valid one.
That all said, I would expect any new manager to pick his (or her!) coaching team. However, they're still going to have a potential battle with some of the summer signings who have failed to perform.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:03
Probably setting myself up for pelters here but I'll do it anyway.
I used to pacemake for Liz and Pete McColgan in training, I was also charged with working with Jackie McNamara in his Pars days on his running style to unlock a bit pace, I did, by getting him to relax his shoulders and let his natural pace carry him instead of forcing it, he would drive his shoulders like a sprinter needlessly. Jocky Scott and Gordon Wallace were going to let him go for being too wee and slight...come at me if you like but I was there during the conversation..thankfully they were jettisoned before getting their way.
I know a bit about training and conditioning and over the years have witnessed some shocking levels of fitness at the club...my tuppence worth is that the fitness isn't what it could be.
I expect your digs and no doubt accusations of blowing my own trumpet but it is what it is and that's my opinion. Whilst my life took a different turn and I'm not much into running anywhere at any sort of pace I'm in damn good nick for a guy pushing 50 and still exercise pretty hard, again, mock if you like but some of those players and coaches need to ask themselves if they are the best they could be.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:11
I have to say thats the most unexpected post I've ever read on here 😁👍
Interesting stuff
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:11
Most manager`s have their own preferred back team that know what the gaffer wants on training field. This has got to be a clean slate for the player`s though. Aiden Mcgeady was frozen out and thrown to the wolves by his last manager fans turned on him. New manager the guy turned everything around got the players on side and results improved.
Not fussed about who the new manager is as long as it is done properly and the best applicant gets the job.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:11
On the subject on coaches I notice at Arbroath on Saturday there was very little interaction between Grant and the coaches it was all about him ,most teams have the manager and coaches interacting
G.B
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Topic Originator: forever black and white
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:16
And who coached you rastapari..paced for liz and Peter...?
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:18
If you have a trumpet, it does no harm to blow it occasionally Rastapari, it certainly brings an interesting perspective to the situation. The fact that we have seemed to run out of stamina recently while trying to hold onto a lead would maybe bear out your point of view.
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Topic Originator: Oldfifer
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:18
Go on yourself my old friend. 👨🏽🦼
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:19
Quote:
Rastapari, Mon 1 Nov 20:03
Probably setting myself up for pelters here but I'll do it anyway.
I used to pacemake for Liz and Pete McColgan in training, I was also charged with working with Jackie McNamara in his Pars days on his running style to unlock a bit pace, I did, by getting him to relax his shoulders and let his natural pace carry him instead of forcing it, he would drive his shoulders like a sprinter needlessly. Jocky Scott and Gordon Wallace were going to let him go for being too wee and slight...come at me if you like but I was there during the conversation..thankfully they were jettisoned before getting their way.
I know a bit about training and conditioning and over the years have witnessed some shocking levels of fitness at the club...my tuppence worth is that the fitness isn't what it could be.
I expect your digs and no doubt accusations of blowing my own trumpet but it is what it is and that's my opinion. Whilst my life took a different turn and I'm not much into running anywhere at any sort of pace I'm in damn good nick for a guy pushing 50 and still exercise pretty hard, again, mock if you like but some of those players and coaches need to ask themselves if they are the best they could be.
I used to train many years ago at Pitreavie back in the 80s. I agree with what you say regarding fitness levels and also the ability to run correctly. I'm sure that the game has moved on a bit but I wonder how many hours they put in now on the training pitch.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:20
Maybe Rastapari was on a bike when he was pacing Liz and Peter.
I`m beginning to wonder now if my running style was the reason I wasn`t more successful. But maybe that`s a fruitless exercise so I`ll just let the thought pass.
Post Edited (Mon 01 Nov 20:23)
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Topic Originator: JimDAFC
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:22
As I recall shields was brought in from America to coach and bring on the youth team. I am not suggesting he should be considered for the managers position but the times I watched the youth/reserve team playing before covid they played some good entertaining football but were sometimes given a beating from teams who were playing quite a few first team players getting back to fitness and the pars were usually a good bit younger than the teams they were up against. I suppose maybe our chairman being the gentleman that he is felt he had an obligation to keep him in a job when the youth/ reserve teams were dispensed with after covid.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:25
I think Raymie makes a fair point about the absence of a forwards coach. It can`t be ideal that both the coaches were right backs. You`d hope fitness wouldn`t be an issue nowadays with a sports scientist/fitness coach and physio at most clubs but I suppose it`s all relative.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:26
Topic Originator: Rastapari like | nolike
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:03
Probably setting myself up for pelters here but I`ll do it anyway.
I used to pacemake for Liz and Pete McColgan in training, I was also charged with working with Jackie McNamara in his Pars days on his running style to unlock a bit pace, I did, by getting him to relax his shoulders and let his natural pace carry him instead of forcing it, he would drive his shoulders like a sprinter needlessly. Jocky Scott and Gordon Wallace were going to let him go for being too wee and slight...come at me if you like but I was there during the conversation..thankfully they were jettisoned before getting their way.
I know a bit about training and conditioning and over the years have witnessed some shocking levels of fitness at the club...my tuppence worth is that the fitness isn`t what it could be.
I expect your digs and no doubt accusations of blowing my own trumpet but it is what it is and that`s my opinion. Whilst my life took a different turn and I`m not much into running anywhere at any sort of pace I`m in damn good nick for a guy pushing 50 and still exercise pretty hard, again, mock if you like but some of those players and coaches need to ask themselves if they are the best they could be.
Great post Rasta I did something similar .. now pushing mid 70`s .. fit as a butchers dug but no exercise now just gardens and Granddaughter :)
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:28
I would keep Shields because at sometime in the near future we will have a youth team and hopefully an Academy. I can think of no one better than him to be in charge. That was why we brought him in.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:31
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 01 Nov 20:11
I have to say thats the most unexpected post I've ever read on here 😁👍
Interesting stuff
x 2
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:33
Quote:
FA1968, Mon 1 Nov 18:06
I am surprised very few have mentioned the apparent lack of Impact the coaching team have provided the team in the last couple of seasons under Crawford and Grant, not withstanding more people losing their jobs I think a clear out in terms of management and coaching is required.
I like the thought of Campbell for a couple of seasons to lay the groundwork and dig us out the mire which I am sure he would with a Petrie or Paul Smith as assistant and ready to take over when Dick retires.
Alternatively Petrie with Jimmy Nic as assistant also sounds sensible.
I don`t think a left field appointment would be the correct call under current circumstances.
Campbell did express a genuine interest in the summer.
Safe to say he won't return given the response he got.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:39
Quote:
forever black and white, Mon 1 Nov 20:16
And who coached you rastapari..paced for liz and Peter...?
A number of people, most notably John Anderson but really a number of people.
Da No 1, yeah...bit of a surprise eh 😀
No I wasn't on a bike but was sometimes knackered to the point of being sick after sessions.
Indiapar...if you don't mind me asking who did you train with?
Another wee aside I used to run George O Boyle to tears round Pitreavie golf course when he was getting back to fitness after his injury...wouldn't have if I thought he'd do the judas thing🤣👊
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:43
I think John Anderson was the trainer for the Scotland team.If so, I remember him trying to coach myself and other miscreants how to play tennis at Inverclyde. Complete waste of the poor guy`s time.
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Topic Originator: forever black and white
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:43
Was a pitreavie man myself in the 80s and would also see Norrie come down and work on his speed exceleration .
These guys new what needed done and worked on it themselves to make them better.
Probably times have changed now towards coaching fitness in football with sport science etc.
Would be interesting to see distance covered by players at dafc over a game .
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Topic Originator: forever black and white
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:48
Was coach by JB myself rastapari our paths may have crossed in another life .
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:55
Quote:
forever black and white, Mon 1 Nov 20:48
Was coach by JB myself rastapari our paths may have crossed in another life .
Quite possibly, I did 800m and cross country, worked a bit with John Wands (lovely guy) and various others, once I started getting into international squads I trained more away from the club with other coaches before going to work in America.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 1 Nov 20:56
Adam ant, we’re they particularly discourteous to Mr Campbell?
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Mon 1 Nov 21:09
With McNamara it was simple, easy to see...he was naturally faster than 90-95 % of the players in the first division, he was more than likely to get to the ball first...he was slowing himself down and burning energy by tensing up and driving his arms loosening them up simply unlocked what he already had.
Of course he went on to be coached at a very high standard, that was just my wee bit.
Davie Moyes would keep any moaning at bay, I was only young.
Edit : sorry for going on...got into a bit of reminiscing there...apologies.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
Post Edited (Mon 01 Nov 21:29)
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 1 Nov 21:47
Absolutely no need to apologise Rastapari, very interesting.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Mon 1 Nov 21:51
Quote:
Rastapari, Mon 1 Nov 20:39
Quote:
forever black and white, Mon 1 Nov 20:16
And who coached you rastapari..paced for liz and Peter...?
A number of people, most notably John Anderson but really a number of people.
Da No 1, yeah...bit of a surprise eh 😀
No I wasn't on a bike but was sometimes knackered to the point of being sick after sessions.
Indiapar...if you don't mind me asking who did you train with?
Another wee aside I used to run George O Boyle to tears round Pitreavie golf course when he was getting back to fitness after his injury...wouldn't have if I thought he'd do the judas thing🤣👊
I used to train with Spence Fernie and Jim Glancy. We trained mostly at Glenrothes with Stuart Hogg and his sprinters. I am from Dunfermline so I would go to Pitreavie and train up there too.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 1 Nov 21:56
It was particularly interesting to hear about John Anderson who was definitely the man at Inverclyde who gave us some coaching and he is probably best remembered for being the referee on the TV programme "Gladiators".
The bit about being sick brings back memories of bringing up my evening meal outside the Big o lea stadium at Neilston. That was the hardest training I ever did. And it didn`t happen just once.
Post Edited (Mon 01 Nov 22:04)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 1 Nov 22:22
Fancy a job at the Pars, Rasta? 😂
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Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff
Date: Mon 1 Nov 22:57
Quote:
Rastapari, Mon 1 Nov 21:09
With McNamara it was simple, easy to see...he was naturally faster than 90-95 % of the players in the first division, he was more than likely to get to the ball first...he was slowing himself down and burning energy by tensing up and driving his arms loosening them up simply unlocked what he already had.
Of course he went on to be coached at a very high standard, that was just my wee bit.
Davie Moyes would keep any moaning at bay, I was only young.
Edit : sorry for going on...got into a bit of reminiscing there...apologies.
Great stuff rasta. Thanks for sharing that. It's always great to give advice to young athletes and see them prosper. Regardless of they level they make it to. You're story about Jackie is cool.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 1 Nov 23:52
Quote:
Johan_Cruyff, Mon 1 Nov 22:57
Quote:
Rastapari, Mon 1 Nov 21:09
With McNamara it was simple, easy to see...he was naturally faster than 90-95 % of the players in the first division, he was more than likely to get to the ball first...he was slowing himself down and burning energy by tensing up and driving his arms loosening them up simply unlocked what he already had.
Of course he went on to be coached at a very high standard, that was just my wee bit.
Davie Moyes would keep any moaning at bay, I was only young.
Edit : sorry for going on...got into a bit of reminiscing there...apologies.
Great stuff rasta. Thanks for sharing that. It's always great to give advice to young athletes and see them prosper. Regardless of they level they make it to. You're story about Jackie is cool.
Yep, found that all very interesting. Tell us more anytime and dont hold back.
It's good to talk.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Mon 1 Nov 23:59
Very interesting, about fitness. I also ran for pitreavie. The runners there,would put football players fitness to shame, and we only ran after a hard day's work,or at weekends. Ran with norrie,at dunfermline half marathon, and came ahead of him,but he always run his heart out.If only some players ,had the same commitment.
Post Edited (Mon 01 Nov 23:59)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 2 Nov 00:13
Interesting article about Stuart Hogg on football focus last week, even Laurenson was impressed!
81yrs old and still working at Peterhead.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 2 Nov 06:56
Quote:
Rastapari, Mon 1 Nov 20:03
Probably setting myself up for pelters here but I'll do it anyway.
I used to pacemake for Liz and Pete McColgan in training, I was also charged with working with Jackie McNamara in his Pars days on his running style to unlock a bit pace, I did, by getting him to relax his shoulders and let his natural pace carry him instead of forcing it, he would drive his shoulders like a sprinter needlessly. Jocky Scott and Gordon Wallace were going to let him go for being too wee and slight...come at me if you like but I was there during the conversation..thankfully they were jettisoned before getting their way.
I know a bit about training and conditioning and over the years have witnessed some shocking levels of fitness at the club...my tuppence worth is that the fitness isn't what it could be.
I expect your digs and no doubt accusations of blowing my own trumpet but it is what it is and that's my opinion. Whilst my life took a different turn and I'm not much into running anywhere at any sort of pace I'm in damn good nick for a guy pushing 50 and still exercise pretty hard, again, mock if you like but some of those players and coaches need to ask themselves if they are the best they could be.
Well your fears couldn't have been any wider off the mark, Rasta. 🙂 As fellow Pars fans, we're delighted to discover that we have a proper athlete in our midst. I was never a speed merchant, just a determined plodder and my association with Pitreavie is a rather more mundane one.
While training for my first marathon in 1995, I started having problems with shin splints on tarmac roads which disappeared when I ran on grass or on the Pitreavie track. I ended up getting up at 5 am on a frosty moonlit morning in February, driving down to Pitreavie and completing 80 laps (20 miles) at a steady 2 mins per lap, give or take 10 secs. To help me keep count and stop me ending up with legs of different lengths, I changed direction every 10 laps. 🙂 Not long after that, I bought myself a new pair of running shoes and a pal recommended I replace the insoles with Sorbothane footbeds which provide additional cushioning and support and my shin splints disappeared overnight.
I've often wondered if I hold the course and distance record for this track. 🤔
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 2 Nov 07:13
Really interesting stuff Rasta.
Funny how some you view people in fitness terms. A friend who was doing some research university work spent a pre-season with Pars under Calderwood and Nicholl and said that the fittest guy, by some margin, was David Moss with Hamish French the best of the rest.
Not surprised at HF being a tank but would never have believed it if anyone else said it re: Moss.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 07:27
Thanks folks, I wondered how it would be taken.
Norrie treated me very well during my wee spell, very well, like all Pars fans was knocked for six by his passing.
Stuart Hogg....now there was a guy you knew you'd had a session with, excellent coach, I didn't know he was still at it at 81...what a guy!
One thing I will say....in fairness to manager's in general...if it hadn't been for Norrie and Moyes most of the senior players would have been lazy barstewards...those two kept them in line.
Looking back it comes as no surprise Davie Moyes became a decent manager, he was and hear still is a very decent man...my measure of that...I bumped into him about 5 or 6 years ago and he smiled...put out his hand and greeted my by my first name.
I couldn't have been that memorable to a guy who's had that life, he's just a class act.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 07:28
Quote:
TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Tue 2 Nov 07:13
Really interesting stuff Rasta.
Funny how some you view people in fitness terms. A friend who was doing some research university work spent a pre-season with Pars under Calderwood and Nicholl and said that the fittest guy, by some margin, was David Moss with Hamish French the best of the rest.
Not surprised at HF being a tank but would never have believed it if anyone else said it re: Moss.
Yeah, my uncle Joe was still at the club and told me about Moss... apparently bossed the bleep test thing with Hamish by a country mile!
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: DAFcPunk76
Date: Tue 2 Nov 08:19
I`m not so sure about players not being fit enough, maybe players coming back not match fit. From what I`ve seen it looks to me like some players wouldn`t run through that brick wall, throw their body`s on the line, it`s different from not being fit enough or not trying. I believe that came from the manager.
We need Someone who the players trust in, believe in and gives them the confidence needed to turn this around. We have the players, they are good enough, they just need the belief. Too many mistakes had the team thinking oh no not again, they played with the fear. We`ve shown how good we can be but it has to carry on for 90 mins, every time we were out of possession we looked like we panicked, we weren`t confident in seeing it out.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Tue 2 Nov 08:32
Safe to say there is a bit of a personality clash between dick and Mr braisby and I fear no reconciliation is in the pipeline.
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Tue 2 Nov 10:00
I too enjoyed reading Rastapari`s fitness opinions based on his past experiences and skill. Not blowing a trumpet in my opinion - through achievement he has earned the right to make these comments. It helps to know his views are coming from someone who has performed and has experience at a high level (which adds to the comments).
Presumably, the sports scientist these days has lots of data they can use to assess performance and fitness levels. I wonder how our players` efforts and fitness levels compare with those in other teams.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Tue 2 Nov 10:02
Long as the new manager is allowed to bring his own staff in, need a clean slate
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 10:17
I’m sure Braisby could be outvoted by other board members surely?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 2 Nov 10:23
I can top Rasta’s stories nae probs.
I once ran at Pitreavie, for St Leonard’s 1st Dunfermline Brownie Pack - in the summer of 1979 - last leg on the relay team.
Beat the big broon pants aff the 1A, Pitcorthie, Pitreavie and Headwell packs!
And…..
Mither was the reigning champion for 20 years in the u-15s 100m (and the high jump) in the Fife schools sports day - for Kelty PS. She’s got trophies tae.
Close the threed.
buffysbuns.wordpress.com
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 10:23
Quote:
RhinoPars, Tue 2 Nov 10:00
I too enjoyed reading Rastapari`s fitness opinions based on his past experiences and skill. Not blowing a trumpet in my opinion - through achievement he has earned the right to make these comments. It helps to know his views are coming from someone who has performed and has experience at a high level (which adds to the comments).
Presumably, the sports scientist these days has lots of data they can use to assess performance and fitness levels. I wonder how our players` efforts and fitness levels compare with those in other teams.
That's very kind, I would add obviously the science has moved on greatly since those days however I do believe the basics of strength, cardio, conditioning etc, the leading principles are largely the same, if perhaps more nuanced.
I've spoken generally of course and modern science does take more into account body type, diet, lifestyle patterns and other parameters a lot more deeply than back in my day✌✊
In short I would be a bit of an ignorant these days🤣
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Tue 2 Nov 10:26
Like the rest of us I have found Rastapari’s stories very interesting. After all, as Bobby Charlton once observed, football is mostly running with about 2 minutes on the ball if you are lucky. So it makes sense to ensure a player is trained to move fluently, and quickly where possible, the rest of the time.
The claim made over the years that professional footballers are nowhere near as fit as athletes is however, in my view, a hoary old myth. In a Superstars type contest footballers perform poorly- I remember David Hemery the 400 metre hurdler making footballers look unfit back in the day. But a footballer is trained to play football which is much different and much harder I think. Football is a stop/start game where you spend as much time running backwards and sideways as forwards. There is also the added problem of having to control a moving ball when you are moving quickly in whichever direction, and unlike on an athletics track there is someone deliberately trying to knock you off stride as you do so.
Last, and maybe most difficult of all, football is a team game where much of your energy has to be mental in judging situations, anticipating the actions of team mates and opponents. As Kenny Dalglish, hardly a great athlete on the park said, ‘The first 5 yards are inside your head.’
sammer
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 10:32
Quote:
buffy, Tue 2 Nov 10:23
I can top Rasta’s stories nae probs.
I once ran at Pitreavie, for St Leonard’s 1st Dunfermline Brownie Pack - in the summer of 1979 - last leg on the relay team.
Beat the big broon pants aff the 1A, Pitcorthie, Pitreavie and Headwell packs!
And…..
Mither was the reigning champion for 20 years in the u-15s 100m (and the high jump) in the Fife schools sports day - for Kelty PS. She’s got trophies tae.
Close the threed.
You are right to blow that trumpet! (Ooh er🤣)
Seriously though✌✊
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 2 Nov 10:35
😂
Now I know why I couldnae catch ye aw they years ago Rasta 😉
buffysbuns.wordpress.com
Post Edited (Tue 02 Nov 10:47)
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 11:11
Quote:
buffy, Tue 2 Nov 10:35
😂
Now I know why I couldnae catch ye aw they years ago Rasta 😉
🤣🤣🤣👊
Neither could the old bill🤣🤣
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
Post Edited (Tue 02 Nov 11:11)
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Topic Originator: auldpar
Date: Tue 2 Nov 11:15
For what it's worth, I drove past EEP about 15 minutes ago and there's a large black jeep-type vehicle parked outside with a personalised number plate beginning with the letters 'KM'. Kinda wished I hadn't now!
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 2 Nov 11:30
Seen it outside on match days, assuming it's Kyle MacDonald's range rover.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: auldpar
Date: Tue 2 Nov 11:34
Delighted to hear that!
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Tue 2 Nov 11:37
Quote:
auldpar, Tue 2 Nov 11:15
For what it's worth, I drove past EEP about 15 minutes ago and there's a large black jeep-type vehicle parked outside with a personalised number plate beginning with the letters 'KM'. Kinda wished I hadn't now!
Just seen it too hope it's not🙄🙄
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 2 Nov 11:41
😂
Aye I’m next to eep right now - waiting on ma bus. There’s another big black 4x4 with JB on the numberplate.
I was mair thinking the Air Force One motorcade had taken a slight detour 😂
buffysbuns.wordpress.com
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Topic Originator: auldpar
Date: Tue 2 Nov 11:51
Maybe the new programme editor.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 2 Nov 11:57
And ehhh aw you buggers driving past EEP, no offering me a lift (tae glamorous Glenrothes).
Yer cards are marked!
buffysbuns.wordpress.com
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Tue 2 Nov 11:57
Quote:
TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Tue 2 Nov 11:30
Seen it outside on match days, assuming it's Kyle MacDonald's range rover.
He's getting paid to fecking much then it's a beast of a machine.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 12:09
What’s everyone’s thoughts on Jim McIntyre returning? He’d be better than a lot of names being touted. A pretty safe pair of hands. He’d be about my 4th choice. Only thing he did wrong was have a bit too much faith in the players that got us promoted. Had to be a little more ruthless to keep us up. Did a decent job.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Tue 2 Nov 12:12
Quote:
FA1968, Tue 02 Nov 08:32
Safe to say there is a bit of a personality clash between dick and Mr braisby and I fear no reconciliation is in the pipeline.
Trust me that’s rubbish, I’m friendly with Dick and family and know Billy through the foundation. They see each other regularly…..I also say them pretty close and laughing together on Saturday.
Sad to say your source is completely off the mark.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Tue 2 Nov 12:12
"He’d be about my 4th choice. Only thing he did wrong was have a bit too much faith in the players that got us promoted."
interested in the 3 above him for you. The "pro" to that too much faith "con" was that he assembled the squad in first place and got the team playing in an attractive attacking way.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 12:39
Play up pompey,
3 above are Campbell, Petrie, Robertson.
Yes, interestingly it’s a point McIntyre realises himself and his main regret from his time at Dunfermline. This suggests he’s learned a hard lesson.
Another plus for McIntyre is the business he did in January, identifying exactly what we needed to achieve our aims and got it. Considering the transfer window coming up is likely to be critical to our survival, I’d be comfortable with Jimmy Mac seeing us through this season at least.
Also he’s available so no compo required.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 12:46
I absolutely despise McIntyre but agree with the "safe pair of hands" comment...for now.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Tue 2 Nov 12:49
Quote:
Rastapari, Tue 02 Nov 12:46
I absolutely despise McIntyre but agree with the "safe pair of hands" comment...for now.
I met him a couple of times and found him a bit big headed. If Robbo doesn’t want it I’d take him for sure
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 13:03
Can I ask why you detest him Rasta?
I don’t really care what anyone on the coaching or playing staff is like as a person. Or indeed the type of football we play. It’s all about results. I’d appoint the biggest pr!ck on the planet if I thought he’d take us to the premier. I’d sack the nicest guy in the world for unacceptable league position. L
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Topic Originator: Hay Fever
Date: Tue 2 Nov 13:07
Must admit I enjoyed McIntyre’s style of play when he had Gibson, Graham and Cardle attacking teams, not sure he’d have the same type of players this time.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 2 Nov 13:13
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 2 Nov 12:09
What’s everyone’s thoughts on Jim McIntyre returning? He’d be better than a lot of names being touted. A pretty safe pair of hands. He’d be about my 4th choice. Only thing he did wrong was have a bit too much faith in the players that got us promoted. Had to be a little more ruthless to keep us up. Did a decent job.
I don't think he had much choice 're the squad when we were promoted. He was told the money was simply not available. I think it's safe to say that the bank decided the club wasn't getting any more loans on the never never.
I hasten to add that I'm not touting him for a comeback, btw. Going back rarely works out and usually serves to tarnish any success enjoyed first time round.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 2 Nov 13:29
Quote:
Hay Fever, Tue 02 Nov 13:07
Must admit I enjoyed McIntyre’s style of play when he had Gibson, Graham and Cardle attacking teams, not sure he’d have the same type of players this time.
Dom Thomas, Ryan Dow and Kai Kennedy aren’t exactly poor options to have.
He also won us this league despite having Chris Smith in goals and Alex Keddie at centre half (2011 equivalent of Mehmet and Graham). He knew how to build a team rather than a group of individuals, in the same way McGlynn has done at Rovers.
However, I have it on good authority that he doesn’t want to return to management. He’s involved in scouting now and is much happier doing that.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 13:39
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 2 Nov 13:03
Can I ask why you detest him Rasta?
I don’t really care what anyone on the coaching or playing staff is like as a person. Or indeed the type of football we play. It’s all about results. I’d appoint the biggest pr!ck on the planet if I thought he’d take us to the premier. I’d sack the nicest guy in the world for unacceptable league position. L
I personally witnessed behaviours I would have punched him for and having family connections to the club heard of others that were at best disrespectful to the club and support, at worst deplorable, I've been consistent in that, Shields involved too and as said earlier or elsewhere when my wee maw asked Shields about a certain incident couldn't even raise his eyes from the ground let alone make eye contact...that was at a public meeting too so nothing behind the scenes or hidden.
That being said no problem with the management of the team or style of play and as stated would take him, knows the division and the club.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: GPar00
Date: Tue 2 Nov 14:02
I’d quite like to see Daniel stendel given a chance, was starting to turn things around at hearts before covid called the season early. Just sacked after a poor spell at Nancy however.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 2 Nov 14:05
Antonio Conte has ruled himself out of the race by joining Spurs and Unai Emery is being tipped for the Newcastle job.
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Topic Originator: yorkiepar
Date: Tue 2 Nov 14:29
It`s unbelievable that people are getting all misty-eyed about Jim McIntyre and are now wanting him back. My principal memory is of him being carried shoulder high around Cappielaw when we won the league and then, a matter of months later, being given his marching orders because he was now apparently useless. Folk are so fickle. Why is he suddenly a hot commodity once again?
Post Edited (Tue 02 Nov 14:29)
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Tue 2 Nov 14:37
I don't remember a big clamour for him to be sacked. The board rolled the dice, hoping Jefferies could pull off a miracle.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Tue 2 Nov 14:37
Maybe because McIntyre got shafted when we got promotion? Obviously most of us didn’t know how bad the finances were at the time and he had no option but to keep the players that got him up, which weren’t good enough for that level. I’d take him back too, last manager to get us promotion from this league and to a Scottish cup semi final
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 14:38
Thanks for your insight Rasta, given what you’ve said, it’s quite possible he wouldn’t want to return here if he didn’t think much of the club. Also as par91 has informed us, he may not fancy a manager job. If he was I’d still be willing to give him to the end of the season rather than bring in the likes of Miller, Fotheringham, Yogi, etc.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Tue 2 Nov 14:41
I have to admit this is exciting watching the potential options moving up and down the bookies list
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 14:46
Yorkiepar,
I don’t think its exactly a clamour for him to get the job, I don’t think he’s anyone’s first pick, he’s my 4th. He may be the best available though if other options don’t pan out. Compensation issues with a few of the better ones. If you take away the guys still attached to clubs the options aren’t great. As I stated previously “safe pair of hands”, knows the league, proved competency. We need first and foremost a manager to keep us up this season. I’m confident Jimmy Mac could do that. I’d breathe a sigh of relief if he were appointed, some of the names banded about scare the crap out of me.
I don’t remember him being hunted out before he was sacked either, certainly not amongst the guys I went to games with at the time.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 15:09
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 2 Nov 14:38
Thanks for your insight Rasta, given what you’ve said, it’s quite possible he wouldn’t want to return here if he didn’t think much of the club. Also as par91 has informed us, he may not fancy a manager job. If he was I’d still be willing to give him to the end of the season rather than bring in the likes of Miller, Fotheringham, Yogi, etc.
I never said he doesn't think much of the club, not that at all, I simply witnessed something I'd rather not have seen, different thing altogether✌
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Tue 2 Nov 15:16
The KM number plate car was away from eep well before the other player were away, also that's the first time I've seen as many cars there and I pass eep about a dozen times a day
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Topic Originator: back oh the net
Date: Tue 2 Nov 15:21
Quote:
Berkey, Sun 31 Oct 17:33
Oh and I would take Ray McKinnon and he looks to be available.
Rat McKinnon?? 😂😂😂 you that desperate to see us play Falkirk again?
Come on ye pars ⚽️
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Tue 2 Nov 15:23
If we appoint Kenny Miller on the back of Peter Grant, I'd be utterly staggered.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Tue 2 Nov 15:30
Quote:
back oh the net, Tue 02 Nov 15:21
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Berkey, Sun 31 Oct 17:33
Oh and I would take Ray McKinnon and he looks to be available.
Rat McKinnon?? 😂😂😂 you that desperate to see us play Falkirk again?
I was told two weeks ago he’d been sounded out by the board about whether he’d be interested.
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Tue 2 Nov 15:43
You were told ? Who told you ?
Honestly, the amount of folk who claim they were told this, they heard that. . .jeez. It would be ok if it was all about the same person/rumour but different names appear all the time.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 15:45
Rasta,
Just when you said he was disrespectful to club and support, that gives the impression he doesn’t think much of the club.
All,
Please don’t let it be Ray McKinnon, he was a nightmare at Falkirk. A similar tenure here would see us relegated in bottom place.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 15:49
In the time it took me to drive from Glasgow to Bathgate kenny Miller has been bet in from 10/1 to 3/1. Robbo still favourite on 6/4
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Tue 2 Nov 15:50
Quote:
MikeyLeonard, Tue 02 Nov 15:43
You were told ? Who told you ?
Honestly, the amount of folk who claim they were told this, they heard that. . .jeez. It would be ok if it was all about the same person/rumour but different names appear all the time.
By someone that’s friends with Ray McKinnon. Never once said he’d been offered the job. But we certainly have sounded him out.
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Tue 2 Nov 15:53
Quote:
Kdy Par, Tue 2 Nov 15:50
Quote:
MikeyLeonard, Tue 02 Nov 15:43
You were told ? Who told you ?
Honestly, the amount of folk who claim they were told this, they heard that. . .jeez. It would be ok if it was all about the same person/rumour but different names appear all the time.
By someone that’s friends with Ray McKinnon. Never once said he’d been offered the job. But we certainly have sounded him out.
Please no.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Tue 2 Nov 15:57
I will split the possible choices into three categories and this is just my opinion
Yes
John Robertson
Stewart Petrie
Dick Campbell
John Hughes
Maybe
Mark Fotheringham
Kevin Rutkiewicz
No
Kenny Miller
Brian Rice
Ray McKinnon
Greg Shields
Neil McCann
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Topic Originator: Lambo1885
Date: Tue 2 Nov 16:01
Might agree if Yogi Hughes was in the Hell No catagory.....
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Tue 2 Nov 16:08
Kenny Millar has been spoke to
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 16:10
Rmgpar, hopefully to tell him no thanks
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte
Date: Tue 2 Nov 16:10
I mentioned Neil McCann a few months ago . Would probably be the type of guy the board would go for.
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Tue 2 Nov 16:12
Quote:
RMGpar, Tue 2 Nov 16:08
Kenny Millar has been spoke to
Does he drive a big black jeep with number plate Km???
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Tue 2 Nov 16:12
I would rather have Grant back than have Kenny anywhere near this
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Tue 2 Nov 16:15
Neil McCann - no thanks :o
Ian Holloway, Neil Lennon, Jim McIntyre for me
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 2 Nov 16:24
As a fan on the outside looking in it`s very difficult to form a definite opinion on any of these candidates. Everyone of them has at least one question mark over them whether it`s inexperience, a blip at some point in their career or a surprise exit from a previous job. I suppose that`s the point of having a rigorous recruitment process where candidates can be questioned at length on their managerial careers to date.
Based on the position we`re in I don`t think we can afford to gamble on this appointment. We should go for experience, preferably someone who has already achieved some success at Championship level or above. John Robertson would seem to me to be the ideal candidate provided he feels he is ready to return to the cut-and-thrust of football management.
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Tue 2 Nov 16:28
We’ve spoke to Rutkiewicz, Miller and Robertson as far as the reliable sources know. Not sure if they have spoke to Fotheringham yet but he is also in the frame. Petrie not interested in leaving Montrose due to work outside football. Campbell was interested in the summer but too late for him now. Having a great season with Arbroath and has no interest in keeping a team in the league.
Would imagine Yogi, Rice, McIntyre, McKinnon, and McCann will have applied but no idea if the club will entertain any of them.
Got to be John Robertson out of all those. Miller, Rustybits and Fotheringham all massive gambles.
I Know There's Gonna Be (Good Times)
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Tue 2 Nov 16:36
Jamesandrews74
I didn`t say I had a source, but I do know for a fact there is a clash between the 2, go ask
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 16:39
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 2 Nov 15:45
Rasta,
Just when you said he was disrespectful to club and support, that gives the impression he doesn’t think much of the club.
All,
Please don’t let it be Ray McKinnon, he was a nightmare at Falkirk. A similar tenure here would see us relegated in bottom place.
I gave the wrong impression, sorry, what I meant was to behave in such a way wasn't appropriate and not entirely respectful to the position of player/manager at the club, I could have worded better, I certainly didn't mean to assert he in some resented or didn't think much of the club...he let himself down and the director who chewed him out on the spot for it seemed to agree.
If you don't mind I'll leave it at that and won't be proffering any more detail on the matter.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 2 Nov 17:09
Had a blether with the ICT fan at work - he doesn`t reckon Robbo would leave Inverness for us; JR is ICT`s sporting director and lives in the area, with his family.
We did both agree however that Derek McInnes was a good shout.
buffysbuns.wordpress.com
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 2 Nov 17:09
No price for Paul Smith???
Saw 3 cars all with PARS numberplate at Stephens bakery, Primrose Lane, don't tell me they're changing the bridies as well!!🤔😷🤣🤣🤣😎
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Tue 2 Nov 17:20
Quote:
FA1968, Tue 02 Nov 16:36
Jamesandrews74
I didn`t say I had a source, but I do know for a fact there is a clash between the 2, go ask
Rubbish. I’m friends with Yano and see Dick, he was golfing with Billy and his mate Alex not long ago. Trust me he’s close to Billy and big Jim L. Not saying he’ll get a job though.
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Tue 2 Nov 17:23
With Leonardo Di Caprio over for COP26, I think we should be asking him if he fancies the job. He has previous experience on a sinking ship.
I Know There's Gonna Be (Good Times)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 2 Nov 17:23
I can`t see Derek McInnes considering a move to a Scottish Championship club at this stage in his career.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 17:29
If it isn’t going to be Campbell or Petrie as some are saying, I really hope it’s Robbo.
Mcinnes won’t come to a team bottom of the championship. Would be delighted to have him but don’t see it happening.
Post Edited (Tue 02 Nov 17:30)
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Topic Originator: davepars
Date: Tue 2 Nov 17:33
I think we should appoint the most enthusiastic candidate.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 2 Nov 17:54
JM lost a lot of severance pay by virtue of us going into admin. Not sure if that would still affect anything now adays.
McInness and Alex Neill would barely touch a job at the bottom of the English Championship let alone the Scottish one, nor would they be anywhere near our budget.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 2 Nov 18:10
Plenty have applied, apparently ?
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Tue 2 Nov 18:20
I wonder why so many are anti Brian Rice?
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Tue 2 Nov 18:23
Quote:
JTH123, Tue 2 Nov 18:20
I wonder why so many are anti Brian Rice?
Because he'd be a very bad appointment.
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte
Date: Tue 2 Nov 18:45
McInnes should be the number one. Not sure he’d be up for the challenge however.
Kenny Miller or Brian Rice are probably the most likely going by a few ITK’s.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Tue 2 Nov 18:52
Quote:
SergioDuarte, Tue 02 Nov 18:45
McInnes should be the number one. Not sure he’d be up for the challenge however.
Kenny Miller or Brian Rice are probably the most likely going by a few ITK’s.
No chance any of them 3 will be involved.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Tue 2 Nov 19:00
Ruitkewicz is doing well with Stirling but I think it would be too much of a gamble. If Petrie & Campbell are out the picture.. I hope they’re trying everything to convince Robertson. An appointment of Rice, Miller, fotheringham etc would do nothing to get the fans back on side IMO.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 2 Nov 19:03
Quote:
Grant, Tue 2 Nov 18:23
Quote:
JTH123, Tue 2 Nov 18:20
I wonder why so many are anti Brian Rice?
Because he'd be a very bad appointment.
In your opinion obviously
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte
Date: Tue 2 Nov 19:03
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Tue 02 Nov 18:52
Quote:
SergioDuarte, Tue 02 Nov 18:45
McInnes should be the number one. Not sure he’d be up for the challenge however.
Kenny Miller or Brian Rice are probably the most likely going by a few ITK’s.
No chance any of them 3 will be involved.
Well you tell us who it’s going to be instead of acting the big I am.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 19:08
Brian Rice has only had one manager job in Scotland, relegating Hamilton who had been an established SPL side for almost a decade (although they scraped through a few of them). He also has a gambling addiction.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 2 Nov 19:08
Quote:
SergioDuarte, Tue 2 Nov 18:45
McInnes should be the number one. Not sure he’d be up for the challenge however.
Kenny Miller or Brian Rice are probably the most likely going by a few ITK’s.
I don't really want to have another pop at you but you really need to start ignoring your ITKs.
They do you no favours.
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Topic Originator: steaua
Date: Tue 2 Nov 19:21
I am quite excited waiting for them to announce the new manager. How`s about, Kenny Miller and Scott Calderwood?
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte
Date: Tue 2 Nov 19:29
I’d imagine Kenny Miller might fancy the gig on his own. He was unbelievable pro and was a world class finisher on his day. He would likely have quite a few connections . I’d imagine it would be similar to the situation with Steven Gerrard at Rangers. His ability to attract players to the club because of who he was rather than his tactical ability .
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 2 Nov 19:36
dearie me
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: istvan kozma
Date: Tue 2 Nov 19:40
https://mcbookie.com/event/614304/next-permanent-dunfermline-manager
KOZMA
Post Edited (Tue 02 Nov 19:43)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Tue 2 Nov 19:49
Quote:
SergioDuarte, Tue 2 Nov 19:29
I’d imagine Kenny Miller might fancy the gig on his own. He was unbelievable pro and was a world class finisher on his day. He would likely have quite a few connections . I’d imagine it would be similar to the situation with Steven Gerrard at Rangers. His ability to attract players to the club because of who he was rather than his tactical ability .
You're actually deluded to think he'd be a fit at our club. Please tell me the stats to back up your allegiance with Miller?
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 2 Nov 19:52
Kenny Miller lasted 3 months at Livingston.
No thanks.
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Tue 2 Nov 19:55
Kenny Miller is just another loudmouth Sevconian. Would be a disaster. But I am very worried our inept bored will be convinced by his soundbites, quite similar to Grant.
I Know There's Gonna Be (Good Times)
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Topic Originator: The moose
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:00
Quote:
steaua, Tue 2 Nov 19:21
I am quite excited waiting for them to announce the new manager. How`s about, Kenny Miller and Scott Calderwood?
You've got to be joking . 😂😂😒
BCM
Post Edited (Tue 02 Nov 20:02)
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:02
Quote:
SergioDuarte, Tue 02 Nov 19:03
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Tue 02 Nov 18:52
Quote:
SergioDuarte, Tue 02 Nov 18:45
McInnes should be the number one. Not sure he’d be up for the challenge however.
Kenny Miller or Brian Rice are probably the most likely going by a few ITK’s.
No chance any of them 3 will be involved.
Well you tell us who it’s going to be instead of acting the big I am.
J Robertson, J Hughes or Jimmy Mac….guaranteed to be one if they 3
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:04
Brian rice hahah there’s a reason he got punted from Hamilton, if we got him in what a disaster. Same as Kenny miller no thanks, would he be coming in to please his pal Dorrans?
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:11
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Tue 02 Nov 19:49
Quote:
SergioDuarte, Tue 2 Nov 19:29
I’d imagine Kenny Miller might fancy the gig on his own. He was unbelievable pro and was a world class finisher on his day. He would likely have quite a few connections . I’d imagine it would be similar to the situation with Steven Gerrard at Rangers. His ability to attract players to the club because of who he was rather than his tactical ability .
You're actually deluded to think he'd be a fit at our club. Please tell me the stats to back up your allegiance with Miller?
At no point did I say he would be a good fit at our club nor do I have any allegiance with Miller .
I have a feeling that’s the kinda guy this board will go for however.
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Topic Originator: dpard
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:12
Just to say that Mcbookie had suspended betting on next manager and now have taken it off their site.
Is there white smoke at East end?
The flame still burns
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Topic Originator: Kyle DAFC
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:17
“Brian Rice has only had one manager job in Scotland, relegating Hamilton who had been an established SPL side for almost a decade (although they scraped through a few of them). He also has a gambling addiction.”
Not really sure on the relevance of the last sentence, do we just discount any manager that has suffered from a mental health issue? For what it’s worth I don’t think Brian Rice would be a good appointment but a very strange comment to make.
Those suggesting Derek Mcinnes need a reality check unfortunately - we’re bottom of the championship.
Robertson or Petrie by far the two outstanding candidates for me if either of them can be convinced to come here then we should do everything we can to make it happen. Wouldn’t be adverse to having Jimmy Mac back either though.
Post Edited (Tue 02 Nov 20:21)
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:21
McBookie always suspend manager odds at night and put them back up the next day
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:25
Kyle. Fair play on the comment. I only thought it pertinent because it lead to a ten game touch line ban last season. I’m not adverse to addicts per se, I’ve been in recovery from an addiction myself for quite some time. I’m over a year sober.
Post Edited (Tue 02 Nov 20:28)
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Topic Originator: dpard
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:27
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Tue 2 Nov 20:21
McBookie always suspend manager odds at night and put them back up the next day
Cheers 👍
The flame still burns
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:29
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 2 Nov 20:25
Kyle. Fair play on the comment. I only thought it pertinent because it lead to a ten game touch line ban last season. I’m not adverse to addicts per se, I’ve been in recovery from an addiction myself for quite some time. I’m over a year sober.
Well done. I hope you can keep it up. Bet you feel good achieving that. Im guessinf the first year may be the hardest.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:34
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 2 Nov 20:25
Kyle. Fair play on the comment. I only thought it pertinent because it lead to a ten game touch line ban last season. I’m not adverse to addicts per se, I’ve been in recovery from an addiction myself for quite some time. I’m over a year sober.
Well done fella, really well done, I've just knocked alcohol and weed on head...only a week...but feel strong and good about it...reading wee things like this are an inspiration, sincerely thanks for sharing ✌✊
Edit : obviously early doors but things like this help...keep on keeping on my man.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
Post Edited (Tue 02 Nov 20:35)
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:35
The mrs and I did it together parrot. The way we were living our lives was pretty wild, we wanted to have a baby and start a family. Also I’d just got a redundancy payment from best job I ever had (thanks brexit) and we’d have blown it if we’d still been mad with it. We tried toning things down but found moderation difficult. Now we are over a year sober, my own business is taking off and our baby boy is five weeks old. It’s been quite the year.
Didn’t imagine sharing something like that on here and I hesitated but if someone else thinks they might have an issue with drink or drugs then please get in touch.
Post Edited (Tue 02 Nov 20:37)
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:36
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 2 Nov 20:35
The mrs and I did it together parrot. The way we were living our lives was pretty wild, we wanted to have a baby and start a family. Also I’d just got a redundancy payment from best job I ever had (thanks brexit) and we’d have blown it if we’d still been mad with it. We tried toning things down but found moderation difficult. Now we are over a year sober, my own business is taking off and our baby boy is five weeks old. It’s been quite the year.
Again brilliant 👏
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:49
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 2 Nov 20:35
The mrs and I did it together parrot. The way we were living our lives was pretty wild, we wanted to have a baby and start a family. Also I’d just got a redundancy payment from best job I ever had (thanks brexit) and we’d have blown it if we’d still been mad with it. We tried toning things down but found moderation difficult. Now we are over a year sober, my own business is taking off and our baby boy is five weeks old. It’s been quite the year.
Didn’t imagine sharing something like that on here and I hesitated but if someone else thinks they might have an issue with drink or drugs then please get in touch.
Quality post, congrats pal.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:50
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 02 Nov 20:35
The mrs and I did it together parrot. The way we were living our lives was pretty wild, we wanted to have a baby and start a family. Also I’d just got a redundancy payment from best job I ever had (thanks brexit) and we’d have blown it if we’d still been mad with it. We tried toning things down but found moderation difficult. Now we are over a year sober, my own business is taking off and our baby boy is five weeks old. It’s been quite the year.
Didn’t imagine sharing something like that on here and I hesitated but if someone else thinks they might have an issue with drink or drugs then please get in touch.
Post Edited (Tue 02 Nov 20:37)
Very well done. Sounds like it’s all turned around for you? Kudos
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 2 Nov 20:51
Quote:
Rastapari, Tue 02 Nov 20:34
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 2 Nov 20:25
Kyle. Fair play on the comment. I only thought it pertinent because it lead to a ten game touch line ban last season. I’m not adverse to addicts per se, I’ve been in recovery from an addiction myself for quite some time. I’m over a year sober.
Well done fella, really well done, I've just knocked alcohol and weed on head...only a week...but feel strong and good about it...reading wee things like this are an inspiration, sincerely thanks for sharing ✌✊
Edit : obviously early doors but things like this help...keep on keeping on my man.
Keep it up. You’re way too smart not to
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 21:15
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 2 Nov 20:51
Quote:
Rastapari, Tue 02 Nov 20:34
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 2 Nov 20:25
Kyle. Fair play on the comment. I only thought it pertinent because it lead to a ten game touch line ban last season. I’m not adverse to addicts per se, I’ve been in recovery from an addiction myself for quite some time. I’m over a year sober.
Well done fella, really well done, I've just knocked alcohol and weed on head...only a week...but feel strong and good about it...reading wee things like this are an inspiration, sincerely thanks for sharing ✌✊
Edit : obviously early doors but things like this help...keep on keeping on my man.
Keep it up. You’re way too smart not to
Ver kind, it's a done deal Raymie, got things on place to keep it going too, not taking it lightly.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Tue 2 Nov 21:19
Well done folks.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Tue 2 Nov 21:24
Thats really inspirational, well done.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 2 Nov 21:26
Quote:
Rastapari, Tue 2 Nov 20:34
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 2 Nov 20:25
Kyle. Fair play on the comment. I only thought it pertinent because it lead to a ten game touch line ban last season. I’m not adverse to addicts per se, I’ve been in recovery from an addiction myself for quite some time. I’m over a year sober.
Well done fella, really well done, I've just knocked alcohol and weed on head...only a week...but feel strong and good about it...reading wee things like this are an inspiration, sincerely thanks for sharing ✌✊
Edit : obviously early doors but things like this help...keep on keeping on my man.
Good on you buddy. First step is the hardest I reckon and you got this. I'm a couple years into my own journey with something that was taking over. You know where to find me if you want a blether.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 2 Nov 21:28
I know we've had a ***** start to the season and now we're manager less but there's been some real decent stuff on here the last few days 👏
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 2 Nov 21:33
Quote:
Rusty Shackleford, Tue 2 Nov 21:26
Quote:
Rastapari, Tue 2 Nov 20:34
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 2 Nov 20:25
Kyle. Fair play on the comment. I only thought it pertinent because it lead to a ten game touch line ban last season. I’m not adverse to addicts per se, I’ve been in recovery from an addiction myself for quite some time. I’m over a year sober.
Well done fella, really well done, I've just knocked alcohol and weed on head...only a week...but feel strong and good about it...reading wee things like this are an inspiration, sincerely thanks for sharing ✌✊
Edit : obviously early doors but things like this help...keep on keeping on my man.
Good on you buddy. First step is the hardest I reckon and you got this. I'm a couple years into my own journey with something that was taking over. You know where to find me if you want a blether.
That's really kind fella, thank you, taking nothing for granted, I'm glad Never10yairds posted that and thank you too for posting, I appreciate both of you✌✊
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 2 Nov 21:41
Cheers folks
Also, to those on your own journeys, keep it up. Once we were a month or so in we found it quite easy, new habits, new attitudes, new hobbies. We had to leave some friends behind and stay out of those circles and cycles. Cliche but getting out in nature is good. We didn’t do a group therapy or program or whatever but we had each other. I hear good things about the Dunfermline AA.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 3 Nov 07:02
Well this thread has strayed a bit from speculation about the identity of our new manager, but it`s no bad thing, imo.
Unless posters pluck up the courage to reveal any personal problems they have, the rest of us would never know. This often leads to heated arguments which can then degenerate into an exchange of insults and even abusive comments, with inevitable red and black cards.
If we know about the difficulties others are facing, we may be more likely to cut them a bit of slack and not go in with both feet any time they post a comment we don`t like or agree with.
I`ve noticed quite a change for the better in the posts of Kessel, Rastapari and Never10yairds this past week. Now I understand why and I hope you guys don`t mind me singling you out. In the case of Rasta, I know that Brian is absolutely delighted at their improved relationship after an exchange of apologies and years of acrimony.
All the best to all Pars fans who may be battling their own personal demons at this time. This pandemic has certainly not helped, as it`s thrown up barriers to friends and family when we needed them most. That old proverb, "A problem shared is a problem halved" is very true. If you don`t speak to anyone, you have to deal with your personal issue on your own and that can be too big a mountain to climb.
Great to read offers of help from other posters too. Count me in.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Wed 3 Nov 07:44
Great Post GG and thank you.
I'm sure Brian won't mind me saying I reached out to him privately to extend my apologies, there was a pleasant exchange.
I already feel like a new person, my problem was I experienced severe trauma and went undiagnosed with PTSD for a long while which led to using certain substances as a crutch, that has come to an end now ( I know that sounds arrogant, I have help in place).
I'm sure things will get heated over the football every now and then but I would like to think the nature of it will be different from some of us now.
If anyone is struggling silently hopefully you'll hit that "right time" to seek help or be ready for change, please at the point try and reach out.
It's been quite the inspiration seeing others open up, I really respect and appreciate it, it helps me and will help others.
I just hope the new manager appointment is easy on the psyche!
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: charlie1
Date: Wed 3 Nov 08:10
We have had several heated exchanges on Off Topic but you seem to be a totally reformed character. Hope you are able to continue your new lifestyle. We'll done
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 3 Nov 08:28
Great post G.G. and well done to all also count me in for any help if required
Edit to add these posts have given everyone a fillip on here myself included ..
Post Edited (Wed 03 Nov 09:21)
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Wed 3 Nov 08:54
In the case of myself GG I’ve been sober over a year, I’m still a crabbit b@st@rd and will likely always be. I’ll never be a glass half full type in any area of life and I wouldn’t really wish to be. I analyse things and make my judgements from there. Engineer mindset. My change in demeanour over the last week is entirely due to the sacking of Grant. I’ve allowed myself a little hope for the club, for now at least! I took a year or two away from posting on here although still read the forum now and again. I only returned when the Grant situation became so unbearable I had to vent. So of course my return seemed vicious and toxic.
I’ll keep my rants in check as best I can. At times my football gripes will be exacerbated by external factors from football like the pressures of running a small business, sleepless nights with the wee man, my truck or the mrs car needing more money thrown at it, usual life stuff. I apologise for that in advance.
I hope our managerial appointment allows my hope to grow and the club is finally back on track. We all love the club, we all want it to succeed, we will differ in opinion often in how that should be achieved, that’s healthy and normal. I hope we can do that whilst being respectful of other posters, it’s been great on here the last week.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Wed 3 Nov 08:57
Rasta if you want any help on your journey or just to talk, whatever, then I’m always here mate. I’ve learned a lot in the last year and a half and I’m more than happy to share with you.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 3 Nov 09:08
The good side of this forum is coming out now, great to see and echo the sentiments of anyone needs a chat or someone to just bounce off of…email in profile.
In terms of candidates, I agree with BambaDaft, there are certain managers being touted that I don’t think will get fans on side, certainly not have the patience to give them time.
To name a few:
Stuart Calderwood
Mark Fotheringham
Brian Rice
Kenny Miller
None of these will really lift the spirits around the place and I wouldn’t be confident of us getting out of the mess we’re in.
If he’s interested the main man who it seems everyone would be happy to have is John Robertson and for good reason. He’s a manager you can see progressing this club and do what Peter Grant waffled about at the start and challenge for the title, not this season ofcourse.
Petrie would be second, but I doubt he’s interested from his point of view he’s got a nice set up and it’s not the right time to consider us.
Dick Campbell, can see the appeal, what he’s got out of that Arbroath team is nothing short of phenomenal, is he the right man for us, I’m not so sure.
McIntyre, he’s been there, done it hasn’t he and importantly acknowledged the error in his ways when he was with us last time.
I would be flabbergasted if we can get Derek McInnes, that would be some appointment and intent but his stock is surely still high enough to warrant a higher calibre of job.
Post Edited (Wed 03 Nov 09:09)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 3 Nov 09:15
I don't have any excuse. I'm just a pain in the arze. Sorry lol, I'll try better.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Wed 3 Nov 09:26
Broadly agree with everything Berry said with the exception of your thoughts on Campbell, I think he’d be excellent.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Wed 3 Nov 09:27
I think those of us who want McInnes to get the job is borne out of hope than actual reality.
Out of those that are more likely to happen then John Robertson would be the outstanding option. Although as he said on Off the Ball on Saturday he is more than happy in his current role.
http://www.agiftfor.net
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 3 Nov 09:39
Nice to see peace breaking out on .net, as I said before there's more to life than football!
I wish you all success in surmounting your deamons!❤
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Wed 3 Nov 10:44
Quote:
Never10yairds, Wed 3 Nov 08:57
Rasta if you want any help on your journey or just to talk, whatever, then I’m always here mate. I’ve learned a lot in the last year and a half and I’m more than happy to share with you.
Cheers my man...
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Wed 3 Nov 11:47
Great stories and mutual support on dot.net.
Things are looking brighter!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 3 Nov 12:03
I’m crossing my fingers, toes and ‘een for one of our prospects
Pleasepleasepleaseplease DAFC choose him
#TeamRustybits
buffysbuns.wordpress.com
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Wed 3 Nov 12:12
A week or so ago I was in despair about what Pars fans were posting about each other, about the club and about those in charge. I was genuinely contemplating walking away from DAFC and spending my time in a healthier environment (It would hurt, but I've always thought of myself as a "football fan" more than a "Pars fan".)
Then this thread took a fantastic (and surprising) development with Rasta, N10Y and others opening up about their battles, failures and successes. Well done folks, you've restored my faith and I'll stick around a bit longer!
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Topic Originator: Inchkeithpar
Date: Wed 3 Nov 12:13
Dick n Arbroath are a match made in heaven, I don’t think he’d be able to replicate his success at Arbroath here atall it pains me to say. Petrie has done an excellent job but he’s been employed there 5 years, he’s built them up over time, our fans and club can’t afford patience plus he has a well paid job outside of football so I don’t think we could even compete financially to persuade him to manage full time. McInnes being appointed is living in fantasy land. I’d take Yogi right now.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Wed 3 Nov 12:41
Inchkeith, I think that’s unfair to Petrie, he’s improved them incrementally since he took charge at Montrose. Went from strength to strength. I have heard he’s not interested in walking away from his other job though.
See no good reason why Campbell wouldn’t work here, he ticks all the boxes.
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Topic Originator: yvb-par
Date: Wed 3 Nov 13:05
An inspiring thread to say the least. Just to say that everyone is welcome on our walk and talk event. Recently we have had support workers and service users from the NHS mental health community rehab service. Assisted living and live life Fife. We are in discussions with both the Vet (military) and addiction service both from Lynbank hospital. Also plenty people coming along with no mental health problems or issues.
I am aware that there is a demand for more days for walks and talks and this is being looked at for the spring and summer. I'm very hopeful this will take place.
We go again this Friday meeting at EEP 10.00am, I will post more details tomorrow but this one has the potential to be the best one yet.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 3 Nov 13:23
What's the process for applying? Do football jobs go up on a website somewhere and people submit their CVs? Is there a deadline? I'm curious about timescales as we're hearing a lot about people throwing their hat in the ring but very little about when shortlisting will occur, when the interviews will be etc.
Totally appreciate that the job may not even be made available yet as it was only this week that PG left.
It's good to see so much interest in the role. Also interesting if people have already been tapped up to come in as has been suggested on social media (take that with a hefty pinch of salt as a lot of the "in the know" people know very little!)
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Wed 3 Nov 15:19
In hindsight, was there no chance that we could have appointed Calum Davidson when he was with us?
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 3 Nov 20:21
Ok my money is now on Paul Lambert.
I heard he is bringing the Liberia head coach in as his assistant.
We are in for a sponsorship bonanza.
Post Edited (Wed 03 Nov 20:24)
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Fri 5 Nov 11:23
Heartened to see the betting on Robbo has been cut to 5/2, hope that’s based on something.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 8 Nov 10:41
He hasn’t been mentioned yet but Ian Murray is doing a decent job at Airdrie. Better than some of the names linked with us.
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Mon 8 Nov 11:01
If I was the owner of a football club in another country and the football league from my country were second to none I would want my new club to play the way.my native teams do. So I still think a Scotsman who has been coaching and managing in German would be my first choice.
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Topic Originator: Sue Par Chew
Date: Mon 8 Nov 11:09
Gary Holt ? Allegedly on his way out as DOF at Falkirk.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Mon 8 Nov 11:14
I noticed that McBookie have added big Mixu into their 'list'. Clearly trawling forums. Robbo and Miller now joint favourites.
Pinch of salt and all that....
http://www.agiftfor.net
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Mon 8 Nov 11:33
Mixu was added cause someone asked for him to be added into the list
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 8 Nov 12:21
Holt had some success at Falkirk and a mixed spell at Livingston. We could do worse.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Mon 8 Nov 12:42
Holt is universally unpopular with Falkirk fans and his recruitment has been terrible, so no, we couldn’t really do much worse having him.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 8 Nov 13:04
Depends how much of the recruiting during DOF spell was his call and how much was the manager.
To clarify when I referenced him at Falkirk I was talking about his manager spell before he went to Norwich.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Mon 8 Nov 13:14
Holt came across absolutely awful at that meeting that was posting online a few weeks back, avoid.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 8 Nov 13:15
Quote:
dd23, Mon 8 Nov 12:42
Holt is universally unpopular with Falkirk fans and his recruitment has been terrible, so no, we couldn’t really do much worse having him.
I watched the Falkirk fans meeting online recently and Holt didn't come over at all well. More than a tad arrogant.
No thanks.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Bigfoot
Date: Mon 8 Nov 13:20
Interesting that following the removal of Peter Grant, and the disaffection his tenure brought to some of the fans, there still seems to be no single person favoured by the support.
I fully agree that the next appointment will be crucial and, with this in mind, it will need to be someone who can steady the ship and perhaps push us in the right direction for the following season.
I assume we had to pay-off Pater Grant and so the talent pool available to us is somewhat limited - effectively an out of work manager/coach.
There was talk about a German coach - but I can`t see this happening - who would want to come to a club in freefall on a (I would assume short contract). Further they are unlikely to know our league and the players within.
It is also a nice thought that they could persuade European players to come to theclub but for the same reasons as above, I can`t see an influx of players.
My guess is that it will be an out of work Scottish manager who lives near enough to Dunfermline to make commuting viable ( I can`t see the club buying/renting houses for staff again for a while).
Given all of the above, my money is on Yogi Hughes.
Jesus saves, but Kirk nets rebound
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 8 Nov 13:49
My revised shortlist in order:
I’d be delighted with:
1 Campbell
2 Petrie
3 Robbo
Would be reasonably confident in:
4 Jimmy mac
Would accept:
5 mixu
6 yogi
7 rusty bits
8 Ian Murray
Beyond that I’m struggling to name anyone I’d have too much faith in who would realistically come here. I was going to try and name 10 but i can’t really find the last 2. I hope the club announce one of the above, the higher up the list the happier I’ll be.
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Topic Originator: allanwilson10
Date: Mon 8 Nov 14:01
Ian Holloway was the one name mentioned in the early stages that genuinely excited me - however I suspect the chances of that happening are non existent.
Robertson remains my preferred choice of the others mentioned.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 8 Nov 14:03
Holloway would be on my list if I could see it happening. I don’t know where I’d slot him in. Probably 4th or 5th given he has no experience in Scottish football. It would be an exciting appointment though and I’d get behind it.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 8 Nov 14:29
I just can`t see us pain any compensation for anyone given what little money we have must be spent on the squad in Jan. Rules out rusty and campbell (petrie wont have applied as doing well in day job)
I think robbo would be decent but what`s it based on? him being a good guy? not getting sacked from his last job? or that he`s the opposite of Grant in that he`s shown frailties and doesn`t have arrogant verbal diarrhea?
robbo has had just as much success as some of the others and I`m not convinced he`s exactly going to jump at the chance to manage us giving the set up he`s got in inverness just now and will be more about being happy and less about the money etc.
It needs to be someone with fairly recent experience of managing in full time football and putting a squad together, might rule out miller although the exception to this might be smith from raith, would he leave a raith side doing well?
McKinnon had a great start to his managerial career and will have learned a lot of the last few years where it hasn`t worked out. I would take him.
Would defo rather have someone not on the scottish fitba merry go round though and could bring a fresh approach, even if we have to take a giant step backwards first that might be miller I guess....
Post Edited (Mon 08 Nov 15:08)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 8 Nov 16:24
I read Neil Warnocks autobiography and he has always dreamed of finishing up his career here in Scotland. His wife is from Greenock and he likes the thought of staying here. Like Holloway though, those sort of managers might have been thinking along the lines of clubs like Hearts or Dundee United.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Mon 8 Nov 16:39
Quote:
Never10yairds, Mon 8 Nov 13:49
My revised shortlist in order:
I’d be delighted with:
1 Campbell
2 Petrie
3 Robbo
Would be reasonably confident in:
4 Jimmy mac
Would accept:
5 mixu
6 yogi
7 rusty bits
8 Ian Murray
Beyond that I’m struggling to name anyone I’d have too much faith in who would realistically come here. I was going to try and name 10 but i can’t really find the last 2. I hope the club announce one of the above, the higher up the list the happier I’ll be.
My list is very similar to yours!
Delighted with
1. Petrie
2. Robertson
Would be reasonably confident in
3. Jimmy Mac
4. Levein
5. Campbell
Would accept
6. Mixu
7. Rusty bits
Strikes the absolute fear into me
-Hughes
-Miller
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 8 Nov 17:02
Mixus` recent record
Dundee United
Paatelainen was announced as the new head coach of Dundee United in October 2015, having signed a contract until 2018. His first match in charge of the club was a 1–0 defeat to Hearts at Tannadice.[33] He was unable to prevent the side from relegation, which was confirmed by a Dundee derby defeat on 2 May 2016, and he left United two days later.[2]
Latvia national team
Paatelainen was appointed head coach of the Latvia national team in May 2018.[34] On 4 December, he announced that he won`t continue as the head coach of the team after his contract expires at the end of the month.[35]
Hong Kong national team
Paatelainen was appointed as the head coach of the Hong Kong representative team in April 2019 on a two-year contract, succeeding Gary White.[36] After a dismal campaign having only achieved a win from twelve games in charge, Mixu`s contract was not renewed.
I`m not convinced by Hughes but surely his record stands up against Mixus`?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Kaiser
Date: Mon 8 Nov 21:46
Work mate spotted a certain manager at Edinburgh Airport and put two and two together. His logic was plausible but delving a wee bit deeper I wondered why he was In Scotland !!!
Very well thought of and respected manager and one the bookies aren’t given odds on.
I’m I over thinking things.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 8 Nov 21:47
Who was it kaiser?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 8 Nov 21:55
Quote:
Never10yairds, Mon 8 Nov 21:47
Who was it kaiser?
Barry Jones. He runs the Dixon's Travel shop.
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Mon 8 Nov 21:58
Quote:
Never10yairds, Mon 08 Nov 13:49
My revised shortlist in order:
I’d be delighted with:
1 Campbell
2 Petrie
3 Robbo
Would be reasonably confident in:
4 Jimmy mac
Would accept:
5 mixu
6 yogi
7 rusty bits
8 Ian Murray
Beyond that I’m struggling to name anyone I’d have too much faith in who would realistically come here. I was going to try and name 10 but i can’t really find the last 2. I hope the club announce one of the above, the higher up the list the happier I’ll be.
That aligns with my thoughts. Campbell, and Petrie as assistant (and future successor). I would have Ian Murray as number 5 and not interested in Yogi.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 8 Nov 22:12
Quote:
Kaiser, Mon 8 Nov 21:46
Work mate spotted a certain manager at Edinburgh Airport and put two and two together. His logic was plausible but delving a wee bit deeper I wondered why he was In Scotland !!!
Very well thought of and respected manager and one the bookies aren’t given odds on.
I’m I over thinking things.
No, you don't appear to be thinking at all. You haven't actually said anything.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 8 Nov 22:43
Javier Clemente?
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Topic Originator: stevelpar1
Date: Tue 9 Nov 09:30
Stendal ?
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 9 Nov 10:35
Mourinho before Roma sack him ?
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Gregshawsgranny
Date: Tue 9 Nov 11:14
Quote
Work mate spotted a certain manager at Edinburgh Airport and put two and two together. His logic was plausible but delving a wee bit deeper I wondered why he was In Scotland !!!
Very well thought of and respected manager and one the bookies aren’t given odds on.
I’m I over thinking things.
……….
Never seen a bigger fishing pole in my puff. Would just of said the name if true. Will now claim to be right if it is any foreign manager.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 9 Nov 11:34
Quote:
Kaiser, Mon 8 Nov 21:46
Work mate spotted a certain manager at Edinburgh Airport and put two and two together. His logic was plausible but delving a wee bit deeper I wondered why he was In Scotland !!!
Very well thought of and respected manager and one the bookies aren’t given odds on.
I’m I over thinking things.
Just say who it is and miraculously look better than you do right now with this vague pi5h.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Tue 9 Nov 12:11
Someone must have dropped a bet on Stuart kettlewell, he's moved in to 6s from 16s
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Topic Originator: Lambo1885
Date: Tue 9 Nov 12:42
"Someone must have dropped a bet on Stuart kettlewell, he`s moved in to 6s from 16s"
I think he would be a good option. Would be quite happy if it was him.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Tue 9 Nov 12:54
Quote:
Lambo1885, Tue 9 Nov 12:42
"Someone must have dropped a bet on Stuart kettlewell, he`s moved in to 6s from 16s"
I think he would be a good option. Would be quite happy if it was him.
Still some questions over him, he had a massive budget at this level due to uncle Roy's millions.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Tue 9 Nov 18:59
Surely there has to be some news by the end of the week about who will be the new manager
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Tue 9 Nov 19:10
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Tue 09 Nov 18:59
Surely there has to be some news by the end of the week about who will be the new manager
Hopefully big Yogi if Robbo doesn’t fancy it, no other clear candidate
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Tue 9 Nov 19:24
Quote:
forever black and white, Mon 8 Nov 22:17
Uwe Rösler
Just saying ....
That could be a very interesting shout if we could afford him and he was interested.
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Tue 9 Nov 20:07
Uwe Rosler 😂
Recently managed Malmo, Champions League regulars, and Fortuna Dusseldorf, a decent sized team in Germany. What on Earth is he doing going from that height to manage a team sitting bottom of the Scottish second tier? Let’s get real.
I Know There's Gonna Be (Good Times)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 9 Nov 20:11
Quote:
Row_ZZ, Tue 9 Nov 20:07
Uwe Rosler 😂
Recently managed Malmo, Champions League regulars, and Fortuna Dusseldorf, a decent sized team in Germany. What on Earth is he doing going from that height to manage a team sitting bottom of the Scottish second tier? Let’s get real.
He's also overseen a few relegations!
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Tue 9 Nov 20:45
The longer this goes on I am beginning the think that no manager will be appointed with Meggle in charge with our current coaching staff supporting.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 9 Nov 21:03
Quote:
k76, Tue 9 Nov 20:45
The longer this goes on I am beginning the think that no manager will be appointed with Meggle in charge with our current coaching staff supporting.
Calm down...
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 9 Nov 21:03
We have been promised a robust selection process. Let`s allow the board time to carry that out and perhaps expect an announcement by the end of next week.
Better that they choose correctly rather than promptly.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 9 Nov 21:11
Quote:
k76, Tue 9 Nov 20:45
The longer this goes on I am beginning the think that no manager will be appointed with Meggle in charge with our current coaching staff supporting.
The single biggest complaint levelled at the BOD after the last 2 appointments was that we rushed into it without a proper interview process.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Tue 9 Nov 21:11
Quote:
Row_ZZ, Tue 9 Nov 20:07
Uwe Rosler 😂
Recently managed Malmo, Champions League regulars, and Fortuna Dusseldorf, a decent sized team in Germany. What on Earth is he doing going from that height to manage a team sitting bottom of the Scottish second tier? Let’s get real.
To be fair I didn't say it was realistic 😉
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 9 Nov 21:20
any odds anywhere? McBookie don`t have a market up just now
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Cleveland12
Date: Tue 9 Nov 21:25
They take it down every night, it’ll be back up on their website tomorrow morning.
Checked earlier today and Robbo and Miller were 2/1 joint favs
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Tue 9 Nov 21:32
I also think that Meggle will get the job. My worry is we were holding Morton quite well in the first half but he talked to the coaches at half time and from then we were a distant second plus we saw strange substitutions.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 9 Nov 21:41
Anyone who backs Kenny Miller automatically receives a lifetime ban from East End Park...
:)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 9 Nov 21:45
Some amusement on this thread. People who criticised the rash decision to appointment of PG getting antsy that we haven't appointed anyone yet.
Give it time!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 9 Nov 21:51
I'm pretty confident it won't be Kenny Miller or Meggle.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Wed 10 Nov 05:29
What about Steve Kean? Read an article with him on sky sports and he seems decent. Won the league in Brunei (I know!) and has been coaching in Australia. Said he would be possibly open to coming back to Scotland. He seems to have a mark against his name for his time at Blackburn though but most people know that they were screwed as soon as the Venkys went in. I’d be open to giving him a chance.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Wed 10 Nov 09:09
Quote:
General Zod, Wed 10 Nov 05:29
What about Steve Kean? Read an article with him on sky sports and he seems decent. Won the league in Brunei (I know!) and has been coaching in Australia. Said he would be possibly open to coming back to Scotland. He seems to have a mark against his name for his time at Blackburn though but most people know that they were screwed as soon as the Venkys went in. I’d be open to giving him a chance.
I'd take Kean, from memory did he actually do that bad at Blackburn?
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 10 Nov 10:10
He got them relegated, admitted throwing a League Cup tie to concentrate on the league, got hammered in a bar in Hong Kong and allowed himself to be filmed when slandering Sam Allardyce (among other claims) and then had to pay substantial damages. And the fans hated him.
I'm guessing our new owners won't be running over hot coals to get to him.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 10 Nov 10:23
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 9 Nov 21:51
I'm pretty confident it won't be Kenny Miller or Meggle.
Me too and the "Robbo being head hunted" story doing the rounds the week before last, also appears to be dead in the water, otherwise he'd surely have been announced by now?
Hopefully the new manager will be in the dugout v Ayr, whoever he is.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Cu-Par
Date: Wed 10 Nov 10:34
Could we be waiting until after we have played ICT on Saturday before making any announcement on John Robertson?
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Wed 10 Nov 14:22
Mcbookie doesn't have any odds up today so i guess they are focusing on the Rangers manager market
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Topic Originator: dpard
Date: Wed 10 Nov 14:34
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Wed 10 Nov 14:22
Mcbookie doesn't have any odds up today so i guess they are focusing on the Rangers manager market
They have suspended betting.
I messaged them earlier asking what had happened to the betting.
Said they will put it back up once they have more news.
The flame still burns
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Wed 10 Nov 14:43
Quote:
dpard, Wed 10 Nov 14:34
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Wed 10 Nov 14:22
Mcbookie doesn't have any odds up today so i guess they are focusing on the Rangers manager market
They have suspended betting.
I messaged them earlier asking what had happened to the betting.
Said they will put it back up once they have more news.
Ok thanks for the info
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Wed 10 Nov 14:46
It's miller time
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 10 Nov 14:59
Quote:
elvis_lives, Wed 10 Nov 14:46
It's miller time
😂🤣😂 He'd last even less than Grant....
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 10 Nov 16:45
The bookies hardly ever get it wrong ... The fact betting is suspended worries me 50% between the two shortest prices
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 10 Nov 18:06
Hmmm that would suggest it’s Miller as there’s zero chance ICT will let robbo go before Saturday.
It’s going to be Kenny Miller isn’t it? He’s got the experience to get us out of this mess and has an excellent record in the transfer market.
Not.
Oh well it can’t get any worse and might swell give him to next season even if we start it in league 1.
Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Wed 10 Nov 18:17
If it was Milker then why delay announcing it?
If it is JR then may be agreed but waiting until after the weekend to confirm/announce?
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 10 Nov 18:20
Quote:
Berkey, Wed 10 Nov 18:06
Hmmm that would suggest it’s Miller as there’s zero chance ICT will let robbo go before Saturday.
It’s going to be Kenny Miller isn’t it? He’s got the experience to get us out of this mess and has an excellent record in the transfer market.
Not.
Oh well it can’t get any worse and might swell give him to next season even if we start it in league 1.
You can't seriously believe that our BoD would be so daft as to even consider Miller? He has next to no managerial experience. I'd even put myself ahead of him, in this respect, having taken a school team for many years. 🙂
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Wed 10 Nov 18:27
If it is Miller, in our position, I don't think I'd even get uptight about it, just back away from the football and regard it as not worth the stress.
The only alarm bells that would ring would be attached to those that will be making the decisions from here on in.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 10 Nov 18:34
Is there a reason it's Whittaker down as manager this weekend rather than Shields? Are they doing turn-about?
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Wed 10 Nov 19:15
Rasta, I’m exactly the same, if it’s Miller time I’ll take a wee step back and indulge other hobbies for a bit. It’ll be sad but I can’t keep getting furious over football, something I’m supposed to spend my free time enjoying. I even bought the home shirt this season as well. Ffs
Post Edited (Wed 10 Nov 19:17)
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Wed 10 Nov 19:24
Topic Originator: GG Riva like | nolike
Date: Wed 10 Nov 18:20
Quote:
Berkey, Wed 10 Nov 18:06
Hmmm that would suggest it’s Miller as there’s zero chance ICT will let robbo go before Saturday.
It’s going to be Kenny Miller isn’t it? He’s got the experience to get us out of this mess and has an excellent record in the transfer market.
Not.
Oh well it can’t get any worse and might swell give him to next season even if we start it in league 1.
You can`t seriously believe that our BoD would be so daft as to even consider Miller? He has next to no managerial experience. I`d even put myself ahead of him, in this respect, having taken a school team for many years. 🙂
“Next to no managerial experience “.
Like Jock Stein, Jim Leishman and Bert Paton then ?
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Wed 10 Nov 19:26
Just read on the BBC website that Villa are "stepping up their pursuit" of Gerard.
Seems that not everyone advertises a position then picks from the applicants after all...
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 10 Nov 20:03
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desparado, Wed 10 Nov 19:24
Topic Originator: GG Riva like | nolike
Date: Wed 10 Nov 18:20
Quote:
Berkey, Wed 10 Nov 18:06
Hmmm that would suggest it’s Miller as there’s zero chance ICT will let robbo go before Saturday.
It’s going to be Kenny Miller isn’t it? He’s got the experience to get us out of this mess and has an excellent record in the transfer market.
Not.
Oh well it can’t get any worse and might swell give him to next season even if we start it in league 1.
You can`t seriously believe that our BoD would be so daft as to even consider Miller? He has next to no managerial experience. I`d even put myself ahead of him, in this respect, having taken a school team for many years. 🙂
“Next to no managerial experience “.
Like Jock Stein, Jim Leishman and Bert Paton then ?
Yes, some managers have done very well at the first attempt. In our present position, can we afford to take such a gamble? Or should we not try and get someone in who has shown he can cut it?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Wed 10 Nov 20:19
If we dont name a manager by Saturdays game ,i would be more confident of Robertson being named ,Hope im right .
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Wed 10 Nov 20:26
They may have let people apply last week then set up interviews to take place this week with a view to appointing their preferred candidate after that robust process is complete.
Miller won't be anywhere near this job.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 10 Nov 20:28
Quote:
JTH123, Wed 10 Nov 19:26
Just read on the BBC website that Villa are "stepping up their pursuit" of Gerard.
Seems that not everyone advertises a position then picks from the applicants after all...
Better cross Gerard off the list of potential applicants then.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Wed 10 Nov 20:44
Gerrard to Villa is pretty much a done deal from what I've heard.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 10 Nov 20:53
Bert did actually manage Cowden and the Rovers before us albeit it was the mid 70's.
Yeah Leish was a gamble at the time but given we were 4th bottom of the old 2nd Division, we had nothing much to lose.
Jock Stein was clearly a very top coach at Celtic prior to managing us and yet again, we hadn't been any sort of force before 1960 so, again not so much a gamble there.
Kenny Miller??? Can anyone point to anything he's successfully done either as a coach or manager given we need someone right now that can turn an average squad of players into winners?
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Wed 10 Nov 20:58
Kenny Miller's media mates asked the question on air. He might well be interested but it doesn't necessarily mean we were..
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Wed 10 Nov 21:30
Maybe Miller in for some sort of role at ibrokes, heard Hughes was lookng at some role within parkhead reserves/colts
East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 10 Nov 21:37
It won't be Miller
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 10 Nov 21:41
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 10 Nov 21:37
It won't be Miller
Cue "Kenny Miller named Pars gaffer" on the back of the Press tomorrow (Thursday).
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 10 Nov 21:43
Quote:
jake89, Wed 10 Nov 21:41
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da_no_1, Wed 10 Nov 21:37
It won't be Miller
Cue "Kenny Miller named Pars gaffer" on the back of the Press tomorrow (Thursday).
If thats how this works.....
It won't be John Robertson
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Wed 10 Nov 21:52
Miller is the favourite due to people lumping money on him after chats with his media mates hyping up for it. He hasn’t even been given an interview from what I’ve heard. Apparently the candidates that have been interviewed, out-with Robertson, have been wholly uninspiring. Really hope Robertson gets it. If not, you are looking at Yogi probably.
I Know There's Gonna Be (Good Times)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 10 Nov 23:00
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 10 Nov 21:43
Quote:
jake89, Wed 10 Nov 21:41
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da_no_1, Wed 10 Nov 21:37
It won't be Miller
Cue "Kenny Miller named Pars gaffer" on the back of the Press tomorrow (Thursday).
If thats how this works.....
It won't be John Robertson
Who am I kidding? The Press will report on it a week after everyone else and have it hidden away beneath a story about that lad who keeps going on Britain's Got Talent.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Wed 10 Nov 23:11
Apart from anything, the board must know how unpopular an appointment Miller would be. Surely, after the Grant fiasco, they wouldn’t bring someone else in the fans so clearly and universally don’t want? Surely they wouldn’t?
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Topic Originator: davepars
Date: Wed 10 Nov 23:24
I`m going to play this game too.
It wont be John Robertson.
It wont be Kenny Miller
It will be McIntyre or Hughes
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Topic Originator: rawpars
Date: Wed 10 Nov 23:34
If it is miller expect the BoD to drive to work in tanks.
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar
Date: Wed 10 Nov 23:40
There has to be more chance of Kenny Miller playing up front on Saturday than being sat in the dugout. What a load of pihs gets spouted on here.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Wed 10 Nov 23:46
If it is Miller i won't even be angry but i will be disappointed
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Topic Originator: rawpars
Date: Wed 10 Nov 23:50
If Miller gets appointed I`ll ear ma hat.
It`s a tin one. So l might break ma teeth on it.
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Topic Originator: JimDAFC
Date: Thu 11 Nov 00:39
That might no be a bad shout Knebworthpar, how old is he now, could probably do a good job for us as a striker.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 11 Nov 07:44
Quote:
londonparsfan, Wed 10 Nov 20:44
Gerrard to Villa is pretty much a done deal from what I've heard.
I'm sure he said he was happy at Ibrox, but his selfless act will ensure thousands of Celtic fans have a happier Christmas than Santa could ever give them.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 11 Nov 09:44
"Aston Villa are to appoint Steven Gerrard as their new manager on a two-and-a-half-year deal; appointment set to be confirmed in the next 48 hours with former Liverpool captain to leave Rangers after three-and-a-half years at Ibrox"
SSN ticker headline
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: charlie1
Date: Thu 11 Nov 10:24
John Hughes now 4/5 with McBookie!
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Topic Originator: jwd1103
Date: Thu 11 Nov 10:42
To be honest anyone who can keep us in the Championship this season will do for me. Avoiding relegation now has to be the priority this season.
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Thu 11 Nov 10:46
Miller's dropping down now at 9/1, yogi then Robertson with kettle well next.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Thu 11 Nov 10:48
If you want a rigorous recruitment process then you need to wait for a rigorous recruitment process to unfold.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 11 Nov 11:41
Quote:
Rusty Shackleford, Thu 11 Nov 10:48
If you want a rigorous recruitment process then you need to wait for a rigorous recruitment process to unfold.
Stop talking sense, min! This is dotnet, ye ken?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Thu 11 Nov 11:45
Potential replacements and shortlist should’ve been made up about a month ago so when we eventually got rid of grant, we’d have a fair idea of who we wanted to bring in
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Thu 11 Nov 11:50
If it's not Robbi then might be tomorrow so our new.manager can watch the Cally game from the stand and see how bad things are and start fresh on Monday.
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Topic Originator: Cleveland12
Date: Thu 11 Nov 12:09
Hughes has drifted to 6/4 - Hopefully they keep drifting until he`s right off the list
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Thu 11 Nov 12:13
Wonder why the price shortened on yogi so rapidly?
I was pretty against bringing him in at the start of the process but if we can’t get Campbell, Petrie or Robbo…. He’ll do. He’s a much better choice than kenny Miller.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 11 Nov 12:22
McBookie
@McBookie
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3m
Jim McIntyre seems to be on the Dunfermline interview list based on bets this morning
in to 5/1
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Thu 11 Nov 12:30
Peter Grant is a Better choice than Kenny Miller Never10Yairds.🤪
East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Thu 11 Nov 12:31
Quote:
GJS93, Thu 11 Nov 12:22
McBookie
@McBookie
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3m
Jim McIntyre seems to be on the Dunfermline interview list based on bets this morning
in to 5/1
Would take.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 11 Nov 12:34
McBookie
@McBookie
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3m
Jim McIntyre seems to be on the Dunfermline interview list based on bets this morning
in to 5/1
To the best of my knowledge, the list of candidates has not been made public, so some folk will be punting (wasting) good money on managers who might not even be getting an interview?
Absolutely mental.
There should be a rule in place to void such a bet to prevent that. AFAIK, you can`t bet on a horse to win a race it`s not running in, can you?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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