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 Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 14:04

Big game for us today, absolute must win COYP

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: parak obama  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 14:11

DUNFERMLINE: Owain Fôn Williams (c): Aaron Comrie, Mark Connolly, Rhys Breen, Josh Edwards: Dom Thomas, Paul Allan, Kai Kennedy, Ryan Dow: Matthew Todd Kevin O’Hara,
SUBS: Kyle Macdonald, Craig Wighton, Nikolay Todorov, Vytas Gašpuitis, Lewis McCann, Dan Pybus, Deniz Mehmet (GK)

MORTON: Jack Hamilton: Oisin McEntee, Alan Lithgow (c), Brian McLean, Mark Russell: Reece Lyon, Jaakko Oksanen, Jimmy Knowles, Robbie Muirhead, Gozie Ugwu, Gary Oliver.
SUBS: Tom Allan, Gavin Reilly, Cameron Blues, Michael Ledger, Lewis Strapp, Kyle Jacobs, Lewis McGrattan

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 14:12

Todd is a bit of a weird one. Hopefully he can finally put in a decent performance. Must win today.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 14:32

3-0 COYP

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:15

Well that ain`t happening...

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: EastEndBoy  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:17

GRANT OUT!

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:18

Looks a really poor crowd.



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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:19

Goalie looked suspect there (wish i had a quid everytime i've heard that). Unless he was unsighted, shot was not struck that cleanly.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:21

Well now we have got the inevitable Gary Oliver goal out of the way now we can focus on winning this game
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:24

Either a penalty or a booking there surely?

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:24

Oh dear

We are doomed

Edit: maybe not yet, was convinced that was a penalty.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:25

This is shocking. Very very lucky that Morton didn't get a penalty there too. Can only thank the dreadful level of refs at the championship
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:26

That was a penalty all day long lucky the Ref didn't see it that way
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:29

We're doing alright. If this was any other season I'd be confident of coming back.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:29

Not looking good.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Gregshawsgranny  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:34

Bring back Grant! All is forgiven…

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:36

Dunno why you're all mumping and moaning based on today's game. They've done just fine and oh look, there's a goal!
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:38

Nice goal. Needed that. Unlikely source too!

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:39

I'd like to officially apologise to Crawford. How he got this team to 4th is an damn miracle. Thank god Thomas and Todd are actually trying though
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: FA1968  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:50

I think we are playing a lot better and look by far the better team. Players look comfy on the ball and Morton look poor.

3 - 1 Pars.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:51

We’ve very little in the middle of the park or up top but I fancy we might just sneak this, Morton look very poor.

It’s all a bit slow and laboured at the back and Kennedy having his best game but keeps cutting in and obv hasn’t got a left foot.

Next goal is absolutely huge…

Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 15:52

Well done to Todd but would it be to harsh to suggest he’s getting caught a wee bit defensively

Teams Just come through us at times and this one can go either way. Mon the pars!!

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:00

Very poor against an awful Morton side. One upfront at home to them is baffling and Dow yet again is miles off it. We cannot afford to lose this today. We draw or lose and I`ll seriously worry about relegation. We need to come out much more hungry in the second half. Glad to see Todd get a goal.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: d3monstrate  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:11

With the way other results are going, a defeat will leave us 5 points adrift…



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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:12

QoS winning against Raith, Alan Johnston`s son scores. Something to be said for nepotism. Hamilton leading 1-0. Teams in the lower half doing well. Ayr equalise against Inverness. Looks like Morton and DAFC being cut adrift.



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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:20

6 points adrift.

It’s not a confidence issue, we’re just not good enough across most of the team.

Allan and Todd lost at sea and can only pass the way they are facing which more often that not is back. Team lacks any physicality and sitting too deep.

New man needs 3-4 players to even give us a chance.



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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:20

This is depressing. Playing a sole striker at home is criminal.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:20

Quote:

d3monstrate, Sat 6 Nov 16:11

With the way other results are going, a defeat will leave us 6 points adrift…


Oh dear.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:22

Gozie Ugwu too. Lots of expars scoring today, even Kerr McInroy. Oh there`s Callum Smith just notched one for Airdrie.



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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: NikNakPar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:22

We really are poor.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:24

It's could get to the stage where we are so far adrift at January there is no point in bringing in players.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:25

Sack the manager? Oops we don`t have one!!

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:26

Thomas off, surely must be injured.

Dow lasts 90 mins every game and is brutal.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:26

Just subbed off Thomas, our single plus point the whole game. Get to f***
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:27

Your right elvis!

This is murder, most lightweight team we’ve had for ages! Just taken Thomas off who was the best of a bad bunch today.

How did we end up so exposed as a team like this, we’re out of our depth in this league with those players.

Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:28

My worry is that some of the potential candidates won't want to put their name to this garbage.
We waited far too long to get rid of Grant imo, the rot has settled in.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:28

Well we cannae say the players just didn`t play for Grant.
They`re just plain awful.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:28

Just shows how much use Shields is to the club as well. Should have been sacked with Grant. Clueless

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:28

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Andrew283, Sat 6 Nov 16:26

Just subbed off Thomas, our single plus point the whole game. Get to f***


No way was he injured. Absolutely disgraceful decision

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:28

Dom Thomas off. I’m watching a different game.

Absolutely baffling




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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:29

Dow should have been the one who was taken off not Thomas
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:29

Quote:

Gaz3822, Sat 06 Nov 16:28

Well we cannae say the players just didn`t play for Grant.
They`re just plain awful.


I said as much a few weeks ago. Quality is not there.




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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:30

Good tactic, stiffen up the defence and keep the score down to 2-1. Goal difference may come into it.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:32

We are absolutely dire

One guy who was showing for the ball everytime and trying to make things happen and he gets taken off.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:35

Joe Cardle scores for Kelty against Cowdenbeath, 1-0.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:37

Agree - taking Thomas off a strange decision
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:42

Central midfield was an area we all identified at the start of the season and Grant`s inability to fix that will cost us long after he`s gone. Allan and Todd are trying and Todd scored a good goal and has driven forward a few times to good effect but they just aren`t good enough at this level, Wilson flatters to decide and seems to be constantly injured, Pybus runs around a lot with little to show for it and Dorrans turned up injured and had contributed little before his injury. With no midfield the defence are constantly under pressure and the forwards have no service. I genuinely can`t see us staying up at this rate. For all the decent passages of play we concede too many, don`t score enough and have zero options in the middle. It`s woeful.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: NikNakPar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:45

Dow would contribute just as much if he was sat at home. Genuinely forget he's playing half the time.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:47

We are fooked.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: NikNakPar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:48

That's a straight red as well not sure why he only booked him.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: FA1968  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:54

That 2nd half was as bad as we have seen this season, awful.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: nightboat  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 16:57

The assistants should have went with Grant. They have all been part of this complete mess did the past few seasons and a whole clear out is required. Management and players. This is really a start from scratch again.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:01

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nightboat, Sat 6 Nov 16:57

The assistants should have went with Grant. They have all been part of this complete mess did the past few seasons and a whole clear out is required. Management and players. This is really a start from scratch again.


This and as said elsewhere the gut by association could hamper the new guy.
What a shambles Grant has created.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:01

I’d type more but I’m absolutely frozen. Fingers blue.

Poor poor stuff Pars

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:04

We are in serious, serious trouble.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Parallel Lines  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:05

It`s hard to see where a new manager can improve this. Let`s not be under any illusion. We are in a relegation battle.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:06

I know this won`t be popular but this is why McArthur should be nowhere near the hall of fame (and I include the whole board in this.) The decision to employ Grant has completely destroyed what was a half decent team who should have been pushing for promotion. A new manager needs to come in with his own staff to clear out all the deadwood Grant has brought in. Grant has completely poisoned the club and if we go down, I seriously don`t know what will become of us. Appointing Grant was an unbelievably stupid decision. Shields and Whittaker should be the next to go. The subs made today were laughable. Morton were brutal which makes today even more depressing.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Swisspar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:06

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nightboat, Sat 6 Nov 16:57

The assistants should have went with Grant. They have all been part of this complete mess did the past few seasons and a whole clear out is required. Management and players. This is really a start from scratch again.


Agreed, the current coaching staff will STILL be sending the same instructions.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:09

At least they’ve ruled themselves out of contention for the job on that display.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:09

RossF, why would you worry “what would become of us” if we dropped to League One?
It’s not like we’ve not been relegated before (not that I want it to happen).

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:10

Questionable starting 11 and then baffling subs.

Morton were brutal and they still easily beat us.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: kba  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:11

Quote:

nightboat, Sat 6 Nov 16:57

The assistants should have went with Grant. They have all been part of this complete mess did the past few seasons and a whole clear out is required. Management and players. This is really a start from scratch again.


Spot on
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:13

Because we are terrible and have many signings on 2 year deals who have been rotten Buffy. This is the worst I`ve seen us by far. We never tested the Morton goalkeeper today apart from the goal, apart from the one off the line when we were 2-1 down. I really thought we would look better today but this was by far the worst we`ve been. It is seriously worrying. It is vital we get the correct manager in.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:13

Just not good enough, Morton are absolutely honking and we have been well beaten. Whittaker is essentially doing his internship with us and Shields seems to be a better fit for the youth side of things. Massive pressure to appoint a manager who can have a positive impact and who has the experience to get us out of this position. Clearly personnel wise we have gaps in Quality throughout the team as well. Will we win a game this season? 😂
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:14

Ref: Swisspar
Date: Sat 6 Nov 17:06

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nightboat, Sat 6 Nov 16:57

The assistants should have went with Grant. They have all been part of this complete mess did the past few seasons and a whole clear out is required. Management and players. This is really a start from scratch again.


Agreed, the current coaching staff will STILL be sending the same instructions."

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Before the match, Shields was very clear that changes have been made in what the players were asked to do. So, I guess that`s him out o` the water!



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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:18

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RossF, Sat 06 Nov 17:13

Because we are terrible and have many signings on 2 year deals who have been rotten Buffy. This is the worst I`ve seen us by far. We never tested the Morton goalkeeper today apart from the goal, apart from the one off the line when we were 2-1 down. I really thought we would look better today but this was by far the worst we`ve been. It is seriously worrying. It is vital we get the correct manager in.


FWIW I agree with you.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Jacko Par42  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:20

How the **** does Dow get 90 minutes, the guy is rank rotten, and I’m still yet to see why everyone shouts for Kennedy. A one trick pony. Shields and Whittaker have to go when the new boss comes in

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: The Boss  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:20

pic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 6 Nov 17:06

I know this won`t be popular but this is why McArthur should be nowhere near the hall of fame (and I include the whole board in this.) The decision to employ Grant has completely destroyed what was a half decent team who should have been pushing for promotion. A new manager needs to come in with his own staff to clear out all the deadwood Grant has brought in. Grant has completely poisoned the club and if we go down, I seriously don`t know what will become of us. Appointing Grant was an unbelievably stupid decision. Shields and Whittaker should be the next to go. The subs made today were laughable. Morton were brutal which makes today even more depressing.


Totally agree. Nobody really wants to take responsibility. We are just supposed to feel sorry for someone who has left us in a complete and utter mess. Completely scunnered at the moment.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:21

It is hard to think of a positive right now. Any lingering thoughts that we had a squad just waiting for the freedom to express themselves were firmly put to bed today, as was the prospect of a Shields/Whittaker management dream team.

We had hoped that we`d finally get those three points, and we`d lift that fog of depression that has hung around Pars fans pretty much since late August. But, it was not to be.

Once again, another very ordinary team has managed to outwit us and walk away with maximum points from East End Park.

If there was ever any doubt about the seriousness of our plight, a glance at the league table this evening should clear it.

We are not just looking for a new manager; we are looking for a miracle worker.

The Christmas transfer window still seems a long way off. Heaven knows how bad things might get before a new manager can begin to rectify the obvious limitations of our current squad.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:24

The big Fife team helping to keep us in the play offs :-((

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:24

Grant has ruined this club, we are stuck with the absolute ***** he’s signed and every signing this summer was awful. A midfield of Todd and Allan is lowland league level, absolutely nowhere near good enough for us. Feel sorry for whoever comes in to this absolute **** show. Shields and Whittaker only showed us today they are clueless too

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:27

It was bad enough being stood up by BMMMH but now I’m sitting on ma lonesome in Legends aboot greetin.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:28

A new low for me today, and I’ve seen a fair few lows
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:28



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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:29

We don’t work hard enough in the middle and up front quite frankly.

Our movement is really poor, when we get the ball there’s hardly anything to do with it.

O’Hara has a really really poor first touch. Kennedy did his usual twinkle toe stuff with no end product, although granted put a couple of decent corners in near the end.

Dow was brutal, never been the same since his injury.

All due respect to the youngsters, we’re not going to get far with Todd and Allan in midfield.

Thomas put the effort in, astonished he was taken off.

I think we’re beginning to see that we have a real problem that even a new manager is going to have some job on his hand trying to solve.

We played second bottom and they looked comfortable, we didn’t test the keeper really at all.

I think this side at the moment would seriously struggle in League One.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:30

11 players signed in the summer and every single one of them has been absolute dross. Dow added to that as the player who came back from injury is an imposter. Kennedy too lightweight and in a midfield of low-fat weights you need more experience. It was a weak starting line and a weak bench and hardly anyone injured except bambi on ice.

Genuinely can’t see a way back from relegation this season if that’s the best team we can put out. That team won’t be near promotion from league 1 next year either.

Not sure where we go from here. Watching today it all feels a bit pointless, we’re almost at the point where we’re appointing a manager to get us compatible for a shot at league 1 title next year. No point spending much in jan to try and paper over the cracks, there’s too many of them now.

Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!

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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:34

Its going to be a tough job for a new manager. Basically I think the players we have at the club simlpy are not good enough. We look like a club already relegated. Its going to be an unenviable task for anyone coming in.
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Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:34

Jesus Christ that was grim today. We are absolutely garbage. Whoever the board appoint as our new manager is going to have to be a miracle worker to save us from relegation.

That squad of players is just nowhere near good enough.

Dom Thomas being subbed off today was an absolute joke as well.
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Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:42

Only thing I can think of saying is whoever takes the job cannot and must not be blamed for this season.
In my opinion it is Grant and the board need to shoulder part of the blame for appointing him.

Our new gaffer might be able to get them playing a bit better but truth be told I don`t think even that can keep us up. The time wasted has allowed the players who let`s be honest start ofthe season looked good on paper....they just have not gelled into what we need.

I am not too comforted by the bit on the Robbo thread about the Germans having their own idea`s on who should be manager. It`s just a way of saying interviews will be held but they already know who they are selecting, which is just the same as what we suffered at the appointment of Grant and nothing has changed IF that is the case.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:44

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Toddyrov, Sat 6 Nov 17:10

Questionable starting 11 and then baffling subs.

Morton were brutal and they still easily beat us.


100%. Pitching 2 young boys in the middle of the park in our most important game of the season so far then subbing our only creative player on the day should at least ensure we have an entirely new management team next week. Utterly crazy decisions today.

God that was awful to watch

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:45

I'd love to hear from the new owners about what they think of their new hobby, presiding over an absolute shambles.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:50

In my opinion Morton were the poorest team i saw us play last season. Added to that they've lost a couple of their better players in the summer and they still comfortably beat us.

We are absolutely dire. Pass marks to Connolly and Thomas but everyone else needs to have a long look at themselves.

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Topic Originator: The Boss  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:50

Topic Originator: Rastapari like | nolike
Date: Sat 6 Nov 17:45

I`d love to hear from the new owners about what they think of their new hobby, presiding over an absolute shambles.



Exactly this. I have a really bad feeling about this takeover.

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You like black and white
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:51

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Rusty Shackleford, Sat 6 Nov 15:36

Dunno why you're all mumping and moaning based on today's game. They've done just fine and oh look, there's a goal!


Must be trolling with that statement "They've done just fine". Frightening what standards some people expect from their football club.
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:51

Da no1 we can finally agree on something and guess what it’s our non existent midfield!

Although young boys, they were well out of their depth today, they actually had okay games for the level they are at, but obv that’s not good enough for even the bottom of the championship.

O’hara worked his socks off with zero service although he was miles away with the 2/3 chances he had.

Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!

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Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:52

If things carry on this way, it won`t be very long before we begin to wonder if we should not be calling for Mr Meggle to get the chop...

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Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 17:56

opic Originator: OzPar like | nolike
Date: Sat 6 Nov 17:52

If things carry on this way, it won`t be very long before we begin to wonder if we should not be calling for Mr Meggle to get the chop...

I know fans are wondering what the new owners are adding, it is time for them to step up to the mark.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:02

I don’t regard O’Hara as a striker nor Thomas. I think Wighton is and Todrov is absolutely useless! So today with started with no striker!
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Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:04

Morton were very poor and created next to nothing yet won in a canter.

An unbelievable team selection - 2 youngsters in the middle of park who seem incapable of playing forward, Dow useless and Kennedy showing exactly why he hasn’t been getting a game - the decision to take off Thomas defied belief.

We also have 3 forwards who all look good on paper - unfortunately though none of them seem capable of controlling the ball.

I’m not his biggest fan but simply don’t understand why Pybus was dropped.

And we have a goalkeeper he barely makes a save yet he is the captain - what does this say to the rest of the team? - give the armband to Connolly.

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:05

Agree to an extent summer, there was such a massive gap between our ‘midfield’ and o’hara that unless there was 2 of him I don’t know any player could have made that formation work.

It’s like we set up not to get beat rather than have a go. Might aswell have gone 4-1-5 and hoped for the break of the ball from the defences long punts.

Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!

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Topic Originator: k76  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:06

The appointment of Grant is looking like it may have long repercussions for the club, players that he signed aren’t good enough.

The way we are at the moment it looks like relegation is extremely likely which will set us back 2 or 3 years.

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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:07

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Kessel, Sat 6 Nov 17:51

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Rusty Shackleford, Sat 6 Nov 15:36

Dunno why you're all mumping and moaning based on today's game. They've done just fine and oh look, there's a goal!


Must be trolling with that statement "They've done just fine". Frightening what standards some people expect from their football club.


I thought the first half was alright, considering the changes to line up, shape, going a goal down and complete lack of confidence.

2nd half on the other hand...

On a side note were the lifeline and half time draw documented anywhere? Just in case I've won and can contribute to a central midfield Gofundme
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:19

Get ready for the seaside league next season because Pep Guardiola couldn’t sort that side out.
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Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:20

No fight,no passion no mid- field .Players,are just not wanting to take responsibility. Absolutely no leadership, both on and off the pitch.I was in hospitality, and big leish,was disgusted,and that is putting it mildly. As for structure, don't get me started .

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Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:22

We need a half decent manager - someone who can at least read a game and learn lessons.

Team line up? - Serious lack of height. Breem took on their big black striker but we lost the first goal because he got beat in the air.

We lost the second goal after only their 2nd corner in the 2nd half with a goal that was a replica of Arbroath. High ball to back post a big player outjumps our defender to knock it across the box.

It is all about goals and we look very vulnerable at set pieces.

2nd half shambles? We outplayed them in the first half. Who else felt that we were going to over-run them after half time?

lesson?- We need a completely new management team. I don`t know what Gus McPherson said to Morton but they over run us. Their players worked much harder than ours when the opposition had the ball. We looked disorganised all over the pitch. The only time something positive happened was when a player went on an individual mazy.

The remains of our management team hadn`t a clue. Taking off Dom Thomas was criminal. If there was a master plan I haven`t a clue what it was.

We need a competent team - judging by who has been working with Johnstone, Crawford, and Grant, we have no-one who is remotely competent.

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Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:27

I don’t know where we go from here. That was worse than I thought. I actually believed we would get a result today. Anyone who can keep that team up without spending a fortune is doing well. We ARE going down as things stand. Grant has built a truly horrific squad.

Send for the bunnet.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:32

I appreciate there's allot of self loathing going on, and allot of depression with regards to the result and our current plight, which again I fully understand, however...

Have that level of dominence in a Scottish championship game and you tend to win, we had two absolutely incredible clearences off the line and an absolutely fantastic save by Hamiltons denying us. Morton went up the park three times and scored. Absolutely Scunnered with the result but I feel I watched a different game to the majority of the comments on here.

For us I thought there was a couple of good performances in flashes, Breen looks a good centre back, wins his headers and has good recovery pace. I thought that for the time he was playing as a ten that was Dows best performance since he came back from injury, Dow and Thomas at various points through the game played well, and I thought that Todd and Allan actually helped retain possession pretty well for most of the game.

On the downside, we obviously didn't take our chances, the sub to replace Thomas and go 442 was a very poor one, Dow became anonymous once he went out wide and we really struggled to link the midfield to the attack. O'Hara put in an absolute power of graft but you're not going to get the best out of him in the 4231 formation. Connollys distribution is so, so, so poor. People will point at the centre midfield but so often you'd have Allan showing and asking for the ball and Connolly just dallyed on the ball, before inevitably punting it long. I'm not against a long ball, but 99% of the ones Connolly played were an absolute shambles.

An incredibly frustrating afternoon, however it was an improvement on pretty much most of the performances under Grant. The subs made by Shields and Whittaker rule them out as contenders though.
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Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:32

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pacifist, Sat 06 Nov 18:22

We need a half decent manager - someone who can at least read a game and learn lessons.

Team line up? - Serious lack of height. Breem took on their big black striker but we lost the first goal because he got beat in the air.

We lost the second goal after only their 2nd corner in the 2nd half with a goal that was a replica of Arbroath. High ball to back post a big player outjumps our defender to knock it across the box.

It is all about goals and we look very vulnerable at set pieces.

2nd half shambles? We outplayed them in the first half. Who else felt that we were going to over-run them after half time?

lesson?- We need a completely new management team. I don`t know what Gus McPherson said to Morton but they over run us. Their players worked much harder than ours when the opposition had the ball. We looked disorganised all over the pitch. The only time something positive happened was when a player went on an individual mazy.

The remains of our management team hadn`t a clue. Taking off Dom Thomas was criminal. If there was a master plan I haven`t a clue what it was.

We need a competent team - judging by who has been working with Johnstone, Crawford, and Grant, we have no-one who is remotely competent.


Morton were organised and played consistently throughout the 90 minutes. They have no flair yet managed 3 goals.

We flattered to deceive in the first half. We have no structure, no game plan and no chance of winning unless someone sorts out the team. Most Managers can manage the basic stuff. Unfortunately the BOD keeps making really poor appointments.

At least AJ made some tangible improvements in the club even though he exceeded his shelf life. Since then it’s been downhill with managerial appointments.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:40

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Grant, Sat 6 Nov 18:32

I appreciate there's allot of self loathing going on, and allot of depression with regards to the result and our current plight, which again I fully understand, however...

Have that level of dominence in a Scottish championship game and you tend to win, we had two absolutely incredible clearences off the line and an absolutely fantastic save by Hamiltons denying us. Morton went up the park three times and scored. Absolutely Scunnered with the result but I feel I watched a different game to the majority of the comments on here.

For us I thought there was a couple of good performances in flashes, Breen looks a good centre back, wins his headers and has good recovery pace. I thought that for the time he was playing as a ten that was Dows best performance since he came back from injury, Dow and Thomas at various points through the game played well, and I thought that Todd and Allan actually helped retain possession pretty well for most of the game.

On the downside, we obviously didn't take our chances, the sub to replace Thomas and go 442 was a very poor one, Dow became anonymous once he went out wide and we really struggled to link the midfield to the attack. O'Hara put in an absolute power of graft but you're not going to get the best out of him in the 4231 formation. Connollys distribution is so, so, so poor. People will point at the centre midfield but so often you'd have Allan showing and asking for the ball and Connolly just dallyed on the ball, before inevitably punting it long. I'm not against a long ball, but 99% of the ones Connolly played were an absolute shambles.

An incredibly frustrating afternoon, however it was an improvement on pretty much most of the performances under Grant. The subs made by Shields and Whittaker rule them out as contenders though.


I'm glad you posted that buddy because I feel like I was watching a different game to everyone else, particularly first half.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:43

Really thought today we would get the win after PG departing
As like many others here I blamed him for everything that went wrong ! I think many of our players really need to have a look in the mirror at themselves also because today was utter garbage and brutal I thought our players were better than that but probably the pink shaded glasses I wear when it comes to the Pars well they are off now and it will be a long time before I go out my way to watch that garbage and very little effort from the players , Playing a Morton team that is absolutely crap so it shows how bad we are that we cannot beat them !
They were virtually route one all game looking for Gozi
Why on earth we lined up with one up front at home is beyond belief , it now looks like Shields and Whittaker are clueless also , after 10 minutes you could see we didn`t have a midfield , no wonder the Breen and Connolly kept passing back and forward to each other most of the game ! there was nobody wanting the ball ,
As for the Goals well we give goals away virtually every game , I cannot say apart from the odd goal that any team has actually created a good chance against us or scored a wonder goal We give teams freebies that are avoidable
Today that was really grim to witness , really thought when we got the goal back we would kick on second half but should have known better
I think even if Paul Daniels was alive it would take more than a magician to sort the mess out
Like others tonight I am just disgusted with that performance could go on and on but would just be covering the ground people have already written about

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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:45

I said months ago this side reminded me of that honking Falkirk team that went down a few seasons ago. On review this team is far worse. The club is on the way down with absolutely no chance of survival IMO. I’ll say one thing if you have dross in the board you’ll have dross on the park. Club needs absolutely gutted.
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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:46

Very disappointed by today. I felt that we'd get a lift after Grant going and there would be more of an air of positivity and playing against a team down at the bottom beside us would give us a better chance of getting a win.
Boy was I disappointed. I wouldn't have fancied picking a mom but how they managed to pick Kennedy was beyond me.
I was as surprised by Thomas being subbed as most were and I didn't see him shake hands with Shields as was suggested. I saw him walk past and blank both of them and get a pat on the back. He looked apoplectic when he went to sit down.
As has been suggested elsewhere I thought we were outfought and we are now in serious trouble.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 18:47

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FA1968, Sat 6 Nov 15:50

I think we are playing a lot better and look by far the better team. Players look comfy on the ball and Morton look poor.

3 - 1 Pars.


Right score wrong team

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Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:00

You do not score goals if you do not test the opposition Keeper !!
Morton have Jack Hamilton the X Dundee keeper who is useless ( my opinion)
but how many shots did he have to save the whole game ?
if you do not hit the target you have no chance of scoring it`s as simple as that
one other thing why do we always wait so long in a game to try and turn it around
10 minutes from the end is no good we should be putting this effort in all game

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Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:03

Good post Grant, I agree with most of it.
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Topic Originator: simo  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:12

Agree with Grant as well tbh. For 60 mins I was actually pretty happy with the performance. One of the better ones this season. Didn’t threaten then enough and the goals we lost are relegation level. Ultimately getting beat 3-1 isn’t good enough but as usual, feel like I’m watching a different game to most on here.

Hamish French.
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:17

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wulliepar57, Sat 6 Nov 19:00

You do not score goals if you do not test the opposition Keeper !!
Morton have Jack Hamilton the X Dundee keeper who is useless ( my opinion)
but how many shots did he have to save the whole game ?
if you do not hit the target you have no chance of scoring it`s as simple as that
one other thing why do we always wait so long in a game to try and turn it around
10 minutes from the end is no good we should be putting this effort in all game



Jack Hamilton had more to deal with than OFW...
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Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:21

a first in a while but i agree with Grant`s last couple of posts.

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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:22

The problem is we are not winning games. Improvement in performance is one thing but getting a win now is crucial. Two up last week and then losing four is indicative that we don't have resilience. Another three goals today at home just confirms this. For me performances no longer matter. We need to win games and fast.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:24

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SergioDuarte, Sat 06 Nov 18:45

I said months ago this side reminded me of that honking Falkirk team that went down a few seasons ago. On review this team is far worse. The club is on the way down with absolutely no chance of survival IMO. I’ll say one thing if you have dross in the board you’ll have dross on the park. Club needs absolutely gutted.


We do have a chance of course we do. Good new manager and a full January window with investment. Re the board they’ve all been in place 7/8 years so that’s not the issue, plenty good times within that. Only the new German owners have joined the board as it’s now there club.

Nothing you or anyone else can do now we’re privately owned again
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:29

Are we going to end up doing a Brechin?

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:30

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Indiapar, Sat 6 Nov 19:22

The problem is we are not winning games. Improvement in performance is one thing but getting a win now is crucial. Two up last week and then losing four is indicative that we don't have resilience. Another three goals today at home just confirms this. For me performances no longer matter. We need to win games and fast.




Over a league campaign performances are pretty important, they absolutely do matter.

I appreciate it didn't go our way today, but you tend to get your rewards over a season, if you have the better quality of chances over a few games you tend to get the rewards, you can't simple say performances don't matter, because in the majority of cases the team that plays better, wins.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:35

"Jack Hamilton had more to deal with than OFW..."

Apart from our goal I didn`t think Hamilton had anything much to test him in the first half, the only time he got dirty was after slipping taking a deal ball kick out.

In the second half all he had to contend with directly was a late header from Wighton which he saved well at his left post.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:41

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veteraneastender, Sat 6 Nov 19:35

"Jack Hamilton had more to deal with than OFW..."

Apart from our goal I didn`t think Hamilton had anything much to test him in the first half, the only time he got dirty was after slipping taking a deal ball kick out.

In the second half all he had to contend with directly was a late header from Wighton which he saved well at his left post.


Apart from the Morton goals, OFW had nothing.

Hamilton had our goals, he was then twice beaten and saved by two incredible goal line clearences, and then saved very well late on.

We created more today than we have in the last three games combined...
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Topic Originator: DrumRoad  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:46

Topic Originator: nightboat like | nolike Like: 1
Date: Sat 6 Nov 16:57

The assistants should have went with Grant. They have all been part of this complete mess did the past few seasons and a whole clear out is required. Management and players. This is really a start from scratch again.



Sadly that would be “clear out” no 5 or 6 since 2013 & as at today the Pars on the park are pretty much no further forward even with the £1.5 million plus, invested in the team & management via gifts from the Centenary Lifeline, Business Club, supporters hub etc since then.

2015/16 League one Winners
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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:46

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Grant, Sat 6 Nov 19:30

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Indiapar, Sat 6 Nov 19:22

The problem is we are not winning games. Improvement in performance is one thing but getting a win now is crucial. Two up last week and then losing four is indicative that we don't have resilience. Another three goals today at home just confirms this. For me performances no longer matter. We need to win games and fast.




Over a league campaign performances are pretty important, they absolutely do matter.

I appreciate it didn't go our way today, but you tend to get your rewards over a season, if you have the better quality of chances over a few games you tend to get the rewards, you can't simple say performances don't matter, because in the majority of cases the team that plays better, wins.


I accept your point Grant. My point is that right now we need a win over a good performance. There is clearly a confidence issue. I would imagine the morale would be higher with a win rather than the players saying "well it was a good performance at least". There is an underlying problem at the club for whatever reason. I normally look on the bright side, but my sense of realism tells me we are in real trouble.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:54

"Hamilton had our goals, he was then twice beaten and saved by two incredible goal line clearences, and then saved very well late on."

I`m assuming goals is a typo for goal !!!

The goal line clearance late in the second at his left post was going past, not by much mind you, and the defender had to head it.

Can`t think of a second goal line clearance.

This is all missing the point, we were very ineffective in the first half, spent most of it playing the ball around the midfield to little effect, or passing it back and forth across the defence in our half of the pitch

Morton are a poor side, and on this evidence we are no better.



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Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 19:57

I agree with Grant as well, first half we played pretty well I thought, should have gone in at half time in front, Morton scored with about their only attack. Losing a soft goal from a corner was the difference, in fairness we kept at it and were unlucky not to get level.

Confidence is down individually and collectively. Dow`s movement was excellent but he`s not producing anything when he gets into dangerous areas. Kennedy also needs a goal, he was lively but was hampered by constant niggly fouling from Morton, most of which was let go. I can understand the Thomas sub, as he wasted some promising positions second half, but given he was very sharp first half and was still looking for the ball, in hindsight it was a mistake. Wighton, same story, needs a goal, a bit unlucky with the later header, not strong enough at other times. Todorov, didn`t have much service, won a few headers. O`Hara, great cross for the goal, good workrate and movement but also made some poor decisions in decent positions 1st half.

I thought Allan and Todd did quite well, Todd drove forward quite effectively from midfield on occasion, Allan was always looking for the ball, played some decent forward passes as well. Edwards had his best game for a while, Comrie was tidy if not that spectacular, from open play both centre backs were comfortable, that`s the first time I`ve seen Breen and I was quite impressed.

That was the same old Morton that always turn up at EEP, a physical but rubbish team that always seem to pinch goals. Even with much better Pars teams we seem to have very similar games with them, the only game at EEP I can remember being different was when they gifted us a bizarre goal that Kiltie scored a few years ago and we won.

In short, frustrating!

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: DulochConvert  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 20:00

VEE, there was a header at the back post near the end as well

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 20:06

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veteraneastender, Sat 6 Nov 19:54

"Hamilton had our goals, he was then twice beaten and saved by two incredible goal line clearences, and then saved very well late on."

I`m assuming goals is a typo for goal !!!

The goal line clearance late in the second at his left post was going past, not by much mind you, and the defender had to head it.

Can`t think of a second goal line clearance.

This is all missing the point, we were very ineffective in the first half, spent most of it playing the ball around the midfield to little effect, or passing it back and forth across the defence in our half of the pitch

Morton are a poor side, and on this evidence we are no better.



I was sitting directly behind it, it was going

The second goal line clearence was an incredible tackle by Ledger?

It's not missing the point, your point was that we didn't make the keeper work, he absolutely had more to do than OFW.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 20:10

"I was sitting directly behind it, it was going

The second goal line clearence was an incredible tackle by Ledger?

It`s not missing the point, your point was that we didn`t make the keeper work, he absolutely had more to do than OFW. "

I was behind it too, it wasn`t going in, those around agreed.

Today was probably Hamilton`s quietest league duty of the season.

"VEE, there was a header at the back post near the end as well"

We would have been on the way out I suspect.



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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 20:14

I don’t get how anyone can be pleased with that performance - Morton are a very poor side and scored 3 times!!! It doesn’t matter how much possession we have or if we create more chances than the opposition - we seriously struggle to score, it’s not down to bad luck - and we have a real soft underbelly in the middle of the park (and goalkeeper) which means we are ridiculously easy to score against - whoever gets the manager’s job is certainly going to have to earn his wages or we’re in serious bother.

Hamilton made one very good save from Wighton late on and Connolly was unlucky to see his header cleared off the line - what else did we create? (I sit behind the goal and stayed till the end but didn’t see any other goal line clearance).

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 20:19

1st half we were in control but 2nd half was just so dire. Morton at home. Bottom line is we are just not good enough at present. This season has been terrible so far but today is the first time it properly sunk in and became a reality for me that we are actually at real risk of being relegated. New manager needs time and some more investment in the team come January, or we're playing Kelty next season. Also no leader today, on the pitch or in the dugout. We need the right manager and a midfield general asap.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 20:25

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twin par, Sat 6 Nov 18:20

No fight,no passion no mid- field .Players,are just not wanting to take responsibility. Absolutely no leadership, both on and off the pitch.I was in hospitality, and big leish,was disgusted,and that is putting it mildly. As for structure, don't get me started .


Yeah he didn't look happy at all.
We could do worse than have him as Temp manager to get us out of this mess.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 20:43

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veteraneastender, Sat 6 Nov 20:10

"I was sitting directly behind it, it was going

The second goal line clearence was an incredible tackle by Ledger?

It`s not missing the point, your point was that we didn`t make the keeper work, he absolutely had more to do than OFW. "

I was behind it too, it wasn`t going in, those around agreed.

Today was probably Hamilton`s quietest league duty of the season.

"VEE, there was a header at the back post near the end as well"

We would have been on the way out I suspect.



I was behind it, it was going in, those around agreed that it was going in.

I can also remember the goal line clearence from Ledger as well as the header so I'll stick with my judgement, cheers.

We played better today than what we did when we drew with Morton earlier in the season.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 22:02

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Grant, Sat 06 Nov 20:43

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veteraneastender, Sat 6 Nov 20:10

"I was sitting directly behind it, it was going

The second goal line clearence was an incredible tackle by Ledger?

It`s not missing the point, your point was that we didn`t make the keeper work, he absolutely had more to do than OFW. "

I was behind it too, it wasn`t going in, those around agreed.

Today was probably Hamilton`s quietest league duty of the season.

"VEE, there was a header at the back post near the end as well"

We would have been on the way out I suspect.



I was behind it, it was going in, those around agreed that it was going in.

I can also remember the goal line clearence from Ledger as well as the header so I'll stick with my judgement, cheers.

We played better today than what we did when we drew with Morton earlier in the season.


Which just goes to prove the unreliability of eye witnesses, from either side !!! It’ll be be interesting to view the highlights.

As for comparative performances, we are bottom of the league deservingly.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 7 Nov 08:18

"Bottom line is we are just not good enough at present. This season has been terrible so far but today is the first time it properly sunk in and became a reality for me that we are actually at real risk of being relegated. New manager needs time and some more investment in the team come January, or we`re playing Kelty next season. Also no leader today, on the pitch or in the dugout. We need the right manager and a midfield general asap.

Pretty much sums up my feelings as well, cfad. Up until yesterday, I didn`t truly believe we could go down. Earlier in the season, I reasoned that Peter Grant would either turn things round or be sacked. When he was dismissed, I thought we would surely get that first win v the 2nd bottom team at home.

There wasn`t a great deal between the teams, but Morton buried all their chances and might have had another penalty. Their keeper didn`t make a save although there were a couple of goal line clearances - that`s what defenders are there for.

Confidence is at rock bottom. Apart from Thomas, others were reluctant to shoot and when they did it was a tame side footed effort, rather than putting their laces through the ball. The new manager has a major job on his hands. The situation isn`t yet desperate as there are plenty of games left, but we need to get our act together soon.....



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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sun 7 Nov 08:27

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Grant, Sat 6 Nov 18:32

I appreciate there's allot of self loathing going on, and allot of depression with regards to the result and our current plight, which again I fully understand, however...

Have that level of dominence in a Scottish championship game and you tend to win, we had two absolutely incredible clearences off the line and an absolutely fantastic save by Hamiltons denying us. Morton went up the park three times and scored. Absolutely Scunnered with the result but I feel I watched a different game to the majority of the comments on here.

For us I thought there was a couple of good performances in flashes, Breen looks a good centre back, wins his headers and has good recovery pace. I thought that for the time he was playing as a ten that was Dows best performance since he came back from injury, Dow and Thomas at various points through the game played well, and I thought that Todd and Allan actually helped retain possession pretty well for most of the game.

On the downside, we obviously didn't take our chances, the sub to replace Thomas and go 442 was a very poor one, Dow became anonymous once he went out wide and we really struggled to link the midfield to the attack. O'Hara put in an absolute power of graft but you're not going to get the best out of him in the 4231 formation. Connollys distribution is so, so, so poor. People will point at the centre midfield but so often you'd have Allan showing and asking for the ball and Connolly just dallyed on the ball, before inevitably punting it long. I'm not against a long ball, but 99% of the ones Connolly played were an absolute shambles.

An incredibly frustrating afternoon, however it was an improvement on pretty much most of the performances under Grant. The subs made by Shields and Whittaker rule them out as contenders though.


Just about the only post worth reading on this thread.
Excellent assessment.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Sun 7 Nov 09:00

Can’t agree I’m afraid - not sure what Connolly was supposed to do with the ball when no-one shows for it. Yes Allan asked for it but every time he was given it he just gave it straight back to Connolly again. And what exactly did Dow do as a number 10 - is their job not to link up and provide chances with the centre forward or feed the wide players? - very little evidence of either of these.

If we play this system I’d suggest we try Thomas as the number 10.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 7 Nov 09:14

AJ agree I said exactly the same to my dad. Allan and sometimes Todd were constantly coming short in to that gap looking to take it off Connolly but he either doesn't trust them or doesn't fancy them so he was looking sideways across the park to Breen or Comrie or long. It was obviously a different system to the one we were playing in the last few weeks but there's no point only half the team playing to it. I had a feeling we wouldn't see the "bounce" from Grant leaving because 2/3 of the coaching staff are still there day to day. I think it could be weeks after the new manager comes in until we start to see any improvements.

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Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 7 Nov 09:41

Not sure how you can claim what was a 3-1 defeat to Morton as an improvement to be honest.

Defensively we are honking, I’m losing words on how best to describe it, every time there is an attack or a set piece we look more likely to concede than not.

When we get the ball, there is naff all options to play up front. There is no pace to our game, always a couple of touches before we play the ball, side to side, front to back only for the inevitable boot up the top, to Kai and O’Hara….

I get why managers decide to play one up front rather than two…but ffs it’s Greenock Morton at home, where on earth is the ambition.

I fell victim to thinking we had a decent team this year and up top, we do. we have O’Hara, proven goalscorer, Todorov, top goalscorer with ICT and Wighton who can be clinical, these aren’t bad players, we are just inept as a club and can’t play to their strengths and get the best out of them.

Sadly it’s because the rest of the team are so poor, we have no midfield, I thought the youngsters held their own today but come on, over the season teams will roll us over with Todd and Allan in there.

Hiring Grant and leaving him in his role for so long has cost us dearly, unless we invest wisely in the next transfer window or we get that new manager bounce, we are done for.
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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sun 7 Nov 10:59

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AJ27, Sun 7 Nov 09:00

Can’t agree I’m afraid - not sure what Connolly was supposed to do with the ball when no-one shows for it. Yes Allan asked for it but every time he was given it he just gave it straight back to Connolly again. And what exactly did Dow do as a number 10 - is their job not to link up and provide chances with the centre forward or feed the wide players? - very little evidence of either of these.

If we play this system I’d suggest we try Thomas as the number 10.



Some of the best midfielders in the world take the ball in, play a 5 yard pass back to the centre back the reposition, rince and repeat.

It's a hell of allot better than Connolly just launching the same ball to Lithgows head.


Dow was actually taking up some very good positions, he played far better as a ten than he did out wide, once the sub was made and we went to 442 I thought the difference was clear in that the long ball was far more prevelant
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Sun 7 Nov 11:10

Meant to mention Lithgow, he looked built like a rugby prop forward!

Don't think we managed to get him isolated 1-on-1 with O'Hara once in the whole game. Aimless punts up park that he lapped up all day long.

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 Re: Match Thread- Pars V Morton
Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Sun 7 Nov 13:34

I thought I must have been watching a different game as well yesterday. I thought we batted poorly and then our bowlers just couldn’t find the right length…

As for the football, interesting to see Greg’s first selection. A few surprises – I thought he might make a couple of token changes, but stick with the basic 4-4-2.

He went with a back 4 – no real surprise – Connolly (who has looked the most assured of our umpteen centre-backs) was back in, and Breen (who is promising, if unconvincing at times) kept his place at the expense of Gaspuitis.

Matty Todd coming from nowhere into central midfield was a bit of a shock, and starting Kennedy (who to my mind has produced very little) was perhaps a statement of intent. Dow is an interesting one – he seems to have lost a yard of pace since his injury, but he’s a good player and can play in a number of roles – but he’s not delivered much of late either. Will he come good, or do we lose patience? Twist or stick – the sort of decisions that plague you at the bottom of the table. Yesterday, he started as either an attacking midfielder or a withdrawn forward, but then went wide when Thomas went off and thence to the middle when Macdonald came on. O’Hara kept his place after 2 goals last week, but looked a little isolated (and his second touch seemed to be a tackle too often).

They started out playing like a Greg Shields team (although PG`s teams were doing it as well) – the goalie playing the ball out from the back to Connolly, content to pass it along the back and slowly work their way up the field. It’s how the reserves/youths were being coached – possession. When it works, it’s great. When it works. In the first half we did OK, but lacked a little quality in the final third – it was good to see Todd get a goal – we don’t get many from central midfield, but I don’t think their keeper made a save.

The second half was poor – we lacked a little quality in the final three thirds. We gave away another bad goal, and threatened very little until late on, when we did create some chances – was it Breen who got on the end of a Macdonald cross but it was cleared off the line – Connolly also had a goal-bound header cleared and Hamilton finally made a save when perhaps Wighton could have done better.

The substitutions were inventive – I don’t understand why Thomas was the one to make way, but I guess the idea of Macdonald providing deliveries for Todorov/Wighton did have the merit of being a Plan B.

Overall, it was very disappointing – any hopes that we had sorted the defence out must have evaporated and there didn’t appear to be a lot to get excited about in terms of new manager bounce. Confidence is brittle and we are now adrift. Matthew Todd’s goal was definitely the highlight – it must be Lewis McCann’s turn next week.

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