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 It`s Yogi
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:01

Just announced
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:03

Great Appointment, proper manager. Done great in premier league last season
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:05

I'll go with that, we need a strong hand at this point...a rookie would have been too much a risk.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:06

I'm happy with that. Should be a safe pair of hands. Let's see everyone get right behind him. COYP!
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: yorkiepar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:08

Agreed, Rasta. I don’t envy him the task but he certainly is the right sort of person to try and steady the ship. Good luck to him.

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:08

Good move this.

Someone who will pull no punches with the current squad and I fancy will raise the standards in training and fitness.

Hopefully he gets a wee budget for January to give him a fighting chance in the league.

Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:09

Happy enough with that. Yogi is smarter than the average bear and will have learned from his experience at the San Starko.

All will be revealed in due course, but I believe some more popular choices among fans didn't apply.



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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:09

Not sure about this at all. Last time he was in this division with a struggling side he took them from 8th to 9th, alienated most of the players, then managed to lose in the play offs to a Brechin side that couldn`t win a game at all the following season. This could either be a masterstroke or we could could up making Falkirk look competent.

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Jacko Par42  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:10

More than happy with that appointment, hopefully he brings his own staff and clears out the dead wood. And as said gets some funds to bolster the playing side

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:11

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kelty_par, Fri 12 Nov 10:09

Not sure about this at all. Last time he was in this division with a struggling side he took them from 8th to 9th, alienated most of the players, then managed to lose in the play offs to a Brechin side that couldn`t win a game at all the following season. This could either be a masterstroke or we could could up making Falkirk look competent.


To err is human, to fail to learn from your mistakes is foolish. Let's give him an opportunity to show that he has learned his lesson.



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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Vamos Pars  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:12

Giving him a contract until the summer of 2023 is my main concern but hopefully he’s a successful appointment.

Also the fact that Whittaker and Shields are still being kept on is possibly worrying.

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:14

Happy as a pig in $hit. He sort the lazy bar stewards oot

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:14

Will of course get behind him but what he done at the rovers strikes me with fear

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: dover par  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:14

Somebody who won’t stand for any slackers or snowflakes..I’m happy with that.

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:14

Quote:

Jacko Par42, Fri 12 Nov 10:10

More than happy with that appointment, hopefully he brings his own staff and clears out the dead wood. And as said gets some funds to bolster the playing side


It says on Cows the current back room staff are staying.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: maradona86  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:15

“Will work alongside all of our existing back room staff”
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:15

Quote:

Vamos Pars, Fri 12 Nov 10:12

Giving him a contract until the summer of 2023 is my only concern but hopefully he’s a successful appointment.


That's only this season and next VP

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:16

It will be interesting. If the players buy into his style of management we should be fine.

He certainly has an infectious character so fingers crossed.


All the best yogi 💪👍
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: YankeeDollar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:16

Should have been given the job after Stevie left the club.

I don`t think we`d be in the mire we`re in now.

Good luck Yogi and welcome to EEP

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Vamos Pars  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:17

Quote:

MDCCCLXXXV, Fri 12 Nov 10:15

Quote:

Vamos Pars, Fri 12 Nov 10:12

Giving him a contract until the summer of 2023 is my only concern but hopefully he’s a successful appointment.


That's only this season and next VP


I just thought he might be on a rolling contract or something of that ilk given our recent debacle with a manger.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:17

Quote:

maradona86, Fri 12 Nov 10:15

“Will work alongside all of our existing back room staff”


See this tarnishes the excitement for me.
I'll back him though.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: par-91  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:18

Happy with that. He knows the game well and will get the best out of some our our players, giving them the kick up the a**e that they need. Think he’ll help guys like Edwards, Allan, Todd etc improve as well.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:19

Surely when you consider somebody`s competence for a job you put more weight on their recent experience rather than something which happened a few years ago? Last season Yogi achieved with Ross County exactly what we want him to do this season but in a tougher league.

It`s interesting that the statement on COWS goes into quite a lot of detail about the recruitment process!

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: The Boss  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:20

Really pleased with this appointment. Would have liked him to bring in his own team though.

I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:22

Best of luck John. Hopefully you are the man to end this nightmare.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:22

Has the experience in management most were looking for, and was likely one of the better candidates available. Hopefully most can get behind him and support the team going forward to get us out of this slump
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:23

You can`t please all of the people, all of the time.

I`ve heard Yogi speak a few times in Q&A sessions at the Dockers` Club in Leith and his football knowledge and passion are not in doubt.

He`ll get my support.

Welcome, Yogi



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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:25

Please guys, let yogi get his feet under the table before the abuse starts. He has inherited hee-haw from Grants time in charge

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:27

Let's just hope we get Inverness yogi and not Raith Yogi. All he needs to do this season is keep us up though
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:28

Happy enough with that, as good as an appointment as we could have wished for in our current circumstances. Good experience and with the exception of Raith, done a good job in Scotland.

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:29

Very pleased with this though ironically this appointment I believe could have been made without the rigorous process, but that’s not a criticism at all. Not sure about Shields and Whittaker being kept on but I trust the board with this one.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:30

He has a massive amount of experience and knows how to get results. The fans will need to get behind him and allow him time. He will need backed in the January window if he is to keep us up. I don't envy him the task of sorting the mess Grant has left him. The team needs cleared out and rebuilt.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:31

Not one that I would disagree with so hope he does well.

I really hope he is backed by the new owners starting with the January window

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Big T Par  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:31

Hopefully an Andy Smith type appointment. Initially FFFFFFFSSSSSS, then proved everyone wrong. Good luck and welcome sir

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:34

Absolutely delighted with this! I think he`ll get the players back playing decent football. Only thing I`m disappointed with is he will be working with the existing staff. I wonder who the other outstanding candidate was?

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:36

Talking of Yogi "taking no nonsense" and "dealing with the snowflakes" gives me the absolute fear tbh, he done that with Raith and alienated the whole squad, to the extent that the players player of the year was Barr, a player Yogi froze out after holding a grudge from when they were at Livi together.

I hope we get someone to work on the recruitment side of things with him.

Most of all I just hope he does well.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Scrimmers249  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:38

Not a fan of this appointment. Biggest concern is that the fail back room team get to stay on again!!

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:39

Granted nothing is a given but given our circumstances this seems like the right move at this time.

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:41

I hope he brings someone in to coach our forwards?




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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:42

Hopefully in time he clears out a lot of our coaching and playing staff for his own men. Won’t happen all at once tho. Busy January followed by survival and a busier summer hopefully.

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:42

Grant, I really don`t want to argue with you......but(!) you`ve made it clear you wanted McIntyre. You choose to focus on his record at this level 10 years ago, yet choose to dismiss Hughes` more recent superior (IMO) record at a higher level. You focus on Hughes` failure to keep Raith up 5 years ago, yet dismiss Hughes` success at keeping Ross County up a few months ago.

For the record, I`m not 100% convinced by this appointment but from the candidates mentioned Hughes is the best we could`ve hoped for, apart from possibly Robbo.

Welcome to the club John!

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:44

Yogi will do for me. Let's back him and see what he can do.
Listened to radio Scotland last Sunday and Rory Loy was blethering about how Yogi wouldn't be accepted by the fans here because he had managed the Rovers.
Just shows how out of touch some of these guys are.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:44

Don’t know how I feel about this appointment if I’m honest.
I’m with Andrew, and Grant, regards his stint at Rovers.
A manager who publicly flogs his team doesn’t sit well with me.

We need someone to instil confidence and get them playing better than they are capable of.

Time will tell if he can do this.

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:44

Congratulations John, I've always been a fan of yours. If you get us to 8th I'll be happy, anything better and I will very very happy.

matt forsyth
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:45

If I remember correctly his stint at rovers got so bad one of the rovers players hooked him.

He just had to keep us up for me.

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: LEGEND85  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:50

I must be in the minority with regards to the other 2 coaches Whittaker has only been part of the coaching staff since the end of last season so should be given the chance to learn his trade.

Greg Shields is supposed to be more involved with the youth team so hopefully he can move into that role when it's available.

But it does not upset me that they are both being kept on.

I see on twitter former player James Vincent someone who played under Hughes has said it's a great appointment so clearly Hughes style of management doesn't upset everyone.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:50

Happy enough with this.

Even happier with "shree" points tomorrow.

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:51

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buffy, Fri 12 Nov 10:44

Don’t know how I feel about this appointment if I’m honest.
I’m with Andrew, and Grant, regards his stint at Rovers.
A manager who publicly flogs his team doesn’t sit well with me.

We need someone to instil confidence and get them playing better than they are capable of.

Time will tell if he can do this.


Aye buffster, but Even Sir Eck had spells managing Clyde and St Mirren

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Parstewart  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:54

I wonder how Sammy will feel about another bear on his turf - could lead to bear wars :)

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:56

Absolutely delighted - welcome Yogi.

Andy J
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:56

I think it`s good that the announcement was made today ahead of tomorrow`s game. He might not have time to have much input into the preparation but it might give the squad a wee boost and an incentive to impress the manager.

As a matter of interest, does Yogi usually have an assistant who follows him to new jobs?

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:57

Delighted. Won't stand for any nonsense, just made my weekend!😁
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: FA1968  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 10:58

Welcome to the Pars Yogi, now crack on.

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:03

Why shields and Whittaker are getting kept on is absolutely awful tbh, we need a fresh start

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:03

Won the Scottish Cup with Inverness (against Falkirk).
Got Raith Relegated.

Should be welcomed with open arms at East End 🤣🤣



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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:03

If we replaced the backroom team it would probably impact on our ability to spend that money on new signings in January.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:04

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da_no_1, Fri 12 Nov 10:42

Grant, I really don`t want to argue with you......but(!) you`ve made it clear you wanted McIntyre. You choose to focus on his record at this level 10 years ago, yet choose to dismiss Hughes` more recent superior (IMO) record at a higher level. You focus on Hughes` failure to keep Raith up 5 years ago, yet dismiss Hughes` success at keeping Ross County up a few months ago.

For the record, I`m not 100% convinced by this appointment but from the candidates mentioned Hughes is the best we could`ve hoped for, apart from possibly Robbo.

Welcome to the club John!



McIntyre wouldn't have been my first choice, but he's a far safer choice than Hughes. McIntyre also done pretty well at QoTS and County since he left us btw.

I don't dismiss Hughes achievement at Ross County, it's a good one. But the Raith one is a more similar situation to the one we find ourselves in. For me there's question marks over his squad building (took over a very good squad from Butcher at ICT, and left a very bloated and expensive one when he left) and his man management is hit or miss, there's been talks of player fallouts at Falkirk, Livingston, Hibernian and Raith Rovers. I'm not sure how he deals with players of a lower quality if you get what I mean? His desire to stick to a philosophy which may not suit the squad isn't an ideal one.

It's very much a boom or bust.

With that being said some patience is required, I'd expect tomorrow's team to be mainly taken by Whittaker and Shields, and it'll take time for Yogi to make his mark, I'm not going to be able to make a game for a couple of weeks due to work, hopefully I'll see us win a game when I get back, that'd be nice.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:16

Has to be said you`re very selective in what stats you choose to support your very well-made points Grant

At Dundee "McIntyre was sacked on 12 May 2019, after the club had been relegated from the Premiership.[24] McIntyre managed just 4 wins in 31 games, giving him the worst win percentage in the club`s history.

There`s no way he`d be getting the backing of the majority of our fans if his name was announced today. It would be a different bunch of people making the same points on both side.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:21

Quote:

Toddyrov, Fri 12 Nov 10:45

If I remember correctly his stint at rovers got so bad one of the rovers players hooked him.

He just had to keep us up for me.


Must have been a big lad or a brave lad, to this day Yogi's in very decent shape and a bit of a unit...

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: istvan kozma  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:25

He got the rovers relegated from the championship. Took over in the February when they were 9th and they finished 9th. Then relegated after losing to Brechin. Hopefully with a bit more time he can turn us around.

KOZMA




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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:25

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da_no_1, Fri 12 Nov 11:16

Has to be said you`re very selective in what stats you choose to support your very well-made points Grant

At Dundee "McIntyre was sacked on 12 May 2019, after the club had been relegated from the Premiership.[24] McIntyre managed just 4 wins in 31 games, giving him the worst win percentage in the club`s history.

There`s no way he`d be getting the backing of the majority of our fans if his name was announced today. It would be a different bunch of people making the same points on both side.



Aye McIntyre didn't do well at Dundee, took over a rough position which was made worse by the board selling there best player (Kamara) for 50k.

Any manager we appointed was going to have blemishes, if they were perfect they wouldn't be with us. For me it's about how those blemishes reflect our current standing.

McIntyre may be a manager who's not quite cut out for the prem, however there's no denying everytime he's been in the Championship he's done well, like AJ every manager has there level. And Yogi doesn't seem to do well in the championship for whatever reason.

The backing of the fans is a moot point IMO, as you can see by this thread McIntyre didn't even have the full backing of the fans while he was here, he wasn't a sycophant that played upto the gallery and he became manager in dubious circumstances, he still got us promoted because he was a capable manager.

Peter Grant didn't fail because he didn't have the backing of the fans (and I'd argue, the backing at games was very good) he failed because he wasn't good enough.

You could appoint someone like Robertson who would have the backing of the fans, if he loses his first 13 games do you think he'd still have it?

For any manager, if they do well they'll get lauded.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: FA1968  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:26

Welcome to the Pars Yogi, now crack on.

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:31

The more I think about this, the more I think it might be a decent move. Beat Ayr at home and get a bit of belief and buzz going.

Coyp

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: alwaysaPar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:32

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Grant, Fri 12 Nov 10:36

Talking of Yogi "taking no nonsense" and "dealing with the snowflakes" gives me the absolute fear tbh, he done that with Raith and alienated the whole squad, to the extent that the players player of the year was Barr, a player Yogi froze out after holding a grudge from when they were at Livi together.

I hope we get someone to work on the recruitment side of things with him.

Most of all I just hope he does well.


To be fair, Barr started a campaign against Hughes the day he was appointed because of their fallout at livingston , gathering support from other players by using examples of what he didn't agree with with regards to Hughes....
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:32

welcome aboard yogi

...now lets get our mob sorted out and get some points on the board

COYP

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: 1985Par  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:35

Not really getting the animosity towards Shields and Whittaker. Confident Yogi can turn things around.

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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:37

Grant, it sounds like you`ve almost made your mind up that he`s going to fail.

I really hope you`re wrong.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:41

I think it was Kevin cuthbert rastapari.

Effe
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:41

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1985Par, Fri 12 Nov 11:35

Not really getting the animosity towards Shields and Whittaker. Confident Yogi can turn things around.


Part of two "meh" managerial teams....and it's normal for managers to have their own guys in.
I guess we have to save money, I think people would just rather out with the old and in with thd new.
For me Shields was sullied and dragged into McIntyre's behaviour.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:48

Maybe he thinks he can work with them? He probably already knows them & might think they can contribute. Or he might bring his own guys in further down the line.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: It's Yogi
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 11:51

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da_no_1, Fri 12 Nov 11:37

Grant, it sounds like you`ve almost made your mind up that he`s going to fail.

I really hope you`re wrong.


There's a chance he might do well, there's a chance he might not.

My thoughts on the matter certainly won't effect it though.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 12:05

Hughes is really well respected by people in the game, not just journos ,but managers and coaches, some at a much higher level than us, this is no guarantee of success, but is a good start.
All managerial appointments are a gamble, look at some huge clubs in Europe ,they can't get it right, one thing that is for sure ,us without almost complete backing from the fans the job is much harder.
I hope Hughes works out for us and will give him 100% backing as I do with Pars managers , but he has to be given some time,to sort out our current situation.

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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 12:07

Welcome Yogi. He’s here and will get my backing. January going to be key to see if we can get a midfield in. He should have enough time to size up what we have and what we need.

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Topic Originator: Ianoappar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 12:11

Will either cure or kill, could go either way only time will tell.
Welcome to the Pars,will be an interesting journey, but right appointment in my opinion.

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Topic Originator: bigdonnie  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 12:15

board done well never made boo boo this time lol

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 12:16

Cautiously optimistic but less confident about keeping a coaching set up that failed. I don't see what happens behind the scenes so I'm sure the board will have .side the right decision in retaining them.
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Topic Originator: parathetic  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 12:28

Yippeekaiyay
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Topic Originator: Lambo1885  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 12:28

He'll get my support, but not overly impressed with the appointment tbh....

I agree with s lot of what Grant's said about him...

Hope he proves me wrong, and takes us up the table.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 12:33

Let's just remember the utter shambles he has inherited and give him time to undo the damage...

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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 12:35

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parsfan97, Fri 12 Nov 11:03

Why shields and Whittaker are getting kept on is absolutely awful tbh, we need a fresh start


Whittaker is learning his trade, only being in the coaching business for a few months. Shields upped sticks from the states to come to us to be employed as youth team coach, this was put up in the air when the youth set up was put on hold, hardly his fault! He never signed up to sort PGs mess. What would be awful is if we were be to bin the two of them after failed promises to the both from the club. Shields had the youth team playing good football against stronger opposition and hopefully he can be the man to help them when the new youth programme is set up. He at least deserves a chance to fulfil what he was employed and turning his life upside down for.
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Topic Originator: Kyle DAFC  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 12:35

I do wonder if out of the two managers who performed well in the interview if Yogi was a lot more accepting of the fact he wouldn’t be able to bring his own backroom team in?

“To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.”
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 12:46

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Lambo1885, Fri 12 Nov 12:28

He'll get my support, but not overly impressed with the appointment tbh....

I agree with s lot of what Grant's said about him...

Hope he proves me wrong, and takes us up the table.


Who would you appoint?

Forget Petrie or Robertson as not interested, statement says a much….club approached others
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Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 13:04

"and it`s normal for managers to have their own guys in."

in bigger leagues and bigger clubs it might be but not really at this level with the last 5 jobs including us twice keeping the same staff, Hughes doesnt have a "team" and didnt take anyone with him to County either.

Raith, the "rant" probably didnt help but the club loaning Vaughan to Dumbarton before he got the job and the carry on with Ryan Stevenson in goal for a game because a director didnt know the rules on loans also didnt help.

anyway, good luck to him.

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Topic Originator: SammyT73  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 13:06

Can we stop banging on about his time at Raith, I watched his interview at the time and fully sided with him, yeah he slagged his players off publicly but that's because he felt they were short changing the club and fans with poor attitude and performance, Yogi was a jersey player and always fully committed to whom ever paid his wages, he expects nothing less from his players and that should be applauded. Clearly rovers players had formed a wee clique and didn't like his methods which led to his downfall there, players come and go and shouldn't rule the roost. Only time will tell whether it's the right appointment but I feel confident we'll start to climb the table.

COYP
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 13:07

He's also spoken at length that he would never hang an individual out to dry in public.
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 13:11

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bigdonnie, Fri 12 Nov 12:15

board done well never made boo boo this time lol


Well played sir, My cap is doffed

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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 13:12

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He's also spoken at length that he would never hang an individual out to dry in public.


And he's had plenty opportunity seeing as one said individual did it to him...
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 13:16

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SammyT73, Fri 12 Nov 13:06

Can we stop banging on about his time at Raith, I watched his interview at the time and fully sided with him, yeah he slagged his players off publicly but that's because he felt they were short changing the club and fans with poor attitude and performance, Yogi was a jersey player and always fully committed to whom ever paid his wages, he expects nothing less from his players and that should be applauded. Clearly rovers players had formed a wee clique and didn't like his methods which led to his downfall there, players come and go and shouldn't rule the roost. Only time will tell whether it's the right appointment but I feel confident we'll start to climb the table.


There’s a much more professional way to deal with players’ grievances. If that’s how you prefer a new managerial appointment to deal with our team then so be it.

His first public club interview:
https://twitter.com/officialdafc/status/1459144195625521152?t=PwxQ0p8N_k_rWGuC4XCnlA&s=07

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Topic Originator: StevenPar77  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 13:42

It's a great interview with him.
I wasn't convinced by Peter Grant but his first interview made me decide he deserves a crack at the job.
Although, the proof is in what will happen over the rest of the season I really, really enjoyed that interview with Yogi.

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Topic Originator: Pars232  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 13:50

A better interview. Comparing PG’s first I think is like night and day. Talked *****, delivered worse on the pitch.

I feel much more upbeat with Yogi’s appointment.
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Topic Originator: xgatesmafia  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 13:55

It was a good honest interview . We are the laughing stock of Scottish football at the moment thanks to our last appointment . It seems like he understands the situation, our weaknesses and has a plan to turn it around. Let’s all pray it works.

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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:05

Solid appointment. A no nonsense manager.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:07

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SammyT73, Fri 12 Nov 13:06

Can we stop banging on about his time at Raith, I watched his interview at the time and fully sided with him, yeah he slagged his players off publicly but that's because he felt they were short changing the club and fans with poor attitude and performance, Yogi was a jersey player and always fully committed to whom ever paid his wages, he expects nothing less from his players and that should be applauded. Clearly rovers players had formed a wee clique and didn't like his methods which led to his downfall there, players come and go and shouldn't rule the roost. Only time will tell whether it's the right appointment but I feel confident we'll start to climb the table.


I don’t think anything he said was not true?
It may have been unwise, with hindsight, but he clearly had reached the end of his tether with some of them ?




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Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:08

I really enjoyed that interview, breath of fresh air.

A thinly veiled “work hard and give your all or f*ck off, it’s my way or the highway”.

Exactly what is required I believe. If there are some in that squad who don’t want to play for the Dunfermline jersey we will be better without them.

I would like to believe the time of feeble excuses and accepting failure has come to an end.

Come on ye pars

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:15

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Never10yairds, Fri 12 Nov 14:08

I really enjoyed that interview, breath of fresh air.

A thinly veiled “work hard and give your all or f*ck off, it’s my way or the highway”.

Exactly what is required I believe. If there are some in that squad who don’t want to play for the Dunfermline jersey we will be better without them.

I would like to believe the time of feeble excuses and accepting failure has come to an end.

Come on ye pars


This.
No nonsense and at least seems to have a grasp of where we are instead of trying to glitter a turd..

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:18

Cheers Buffy, what an interview, For any managers first interview to come out and say "We are the laughing stock of Scottish football" takes Baws.
For an ex-falkrk Icon to come out and state that shows me He's here to battle. I don't know if it's the accent or body language but he talks and acts like Dick Campbell.

Welcome aboard Yogi .
It will be emotional

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:21

Calling the squad a soft touch publically and calling us the laughing stock of Scottish football is an interesting way to start off.


Don't think the squad reacted well to Peter Grant doing it right enough.
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:24

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SammyT73, Fri 12 Nov 13:06

Can we stop banging on about his time at Raith, I watched his interview at the time and fully sided with him, yeah he slagged his players off publicly but that's because he felt they were short changing the club and fans with poor attitude and performance, Yogi was a jersey player and always fully committed to whom ever paid his wages, he expects nothing less from his players and that should be applauded. Clearly rovers players had formed a wee clique and didn't like his methods which led to his downfall there, players come and go and shouldn't rule the roost. Only time will tell whether it's the right appointment but I feel confident we'll start to climb the table.


I don’t think anything he said was not true?
It may have been unwise, with hindsight, but he clearly had reached the end of his tether with some of them ?



You didn't need hindsight to know it was an unwise, and flat out bad interview.


Hindsight does show though it was so unwise he alienated the squad to such an extent they got relegated against the worst side to ever play at this level. It was awful man management. I'd rather our gaffer maybe didn't do that.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:41

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Grant, Fri 12 Nov 14:24

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SammyT73, Fri 12 Nov 13:06

Can we stop banging on about his time at Raith, I watched his interview at the time and fully sided with him, yeah he slagged his players off publicly but that's because he felt they were short changing the club and fans with poor attitude and performance, Yogi was a jersey player and always fully committed to whom ever paid his wages, he expects nothing less from his players and that should be applauded. Clearly rovers players had formed a wee clique and didn't like his methods which led to his downfall there, players come and go and shouldn't rule the roost. Only time will tell whether it's the right appointment but I feel confident we'll start to climb the table.


I don’t think anything he said was not true?
It may have been unwise, with hindsight, but he clearly had reached the end of his tether with some of them ?



You didn't need hindsight to know it was an unwise, and flat out bad interview.


Hindsight does show though it was so unwise he alienated the squad to such an extent they got relegated against the worst side to ever play at this level. It was awful man management. I'd rather our gaffer maybe didn't do that.


Hughes had played the players tune for weeks, the same bunch of players who took the mickey out of Gary Locke.
He moly coddled them, listened to them and got it thrown back in his face.
Hindsight didn't get them relegated, it was following the words of a player who didn't want him there and his influence on the rest of the squad
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:43

Lets all get behind him and give hime time .. let him sort things out .. Welcome aboard Yogi

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Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:45

Interesting appointment that can go either way, not excited by the appointment, not disappointed either.

I will be backing him and hoping he can turn this mess around, his short term goal is bound to be getting us clear of relegation for a challenge next season.

Not reading much into his interview, actions speak louder than words and we all know what happened when many fell for the 8min Grant interview.

What’s good to see is he’s clearly very excited and willing to put the graft in, as did Grant, just hope it works out better.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:47

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alwaysaPar, Fri 12 Nov 14:41

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SammyT73, Fri 12 Nov 13:06

Can we stop banging on about his time at Raith, I watched his interview at the time and fully sided with him, yeah he slagged his players off publicly but that's because he felt they were short changing the club and fans with poor attitude and performance, Yogi was a jersey player and always fully committed to whom ever paid his wages, he expects nothing less from his players and that should be applauded. Clearly rovers players had formed a wee clique and didn't like his methods which led to his downfall there, players come and go and shouldn't rule the roost. Only time will tell whether it's the right appointment but I feel confident we'll start to climb the table.


I don’t think anything he said was not true?
It may have been unwise, with hindsight, but he clearly had reached the end of his tether with some of them ?



You didn't need hindsight to know it was an unwise, and flat out bad interview.


Hindsight does show though it was so unwise he alienated the squad to such an extent they got relegated against the worst side to ever play at this level. It was awful man management. I'd rather our gaffer maybe didn't do that.


Hughes had played the players tune for weeks, the same bunch of players who took the mickey out of Gary Locke.
He moly coddled them, listened to them and got it thrown back in his face.
Hindsight didn't get them relegated, it was following the words of a player who didn't want him there and his influence on the rest of the squad


I’m fairly sure he had decided he was leaving at the end of the season whether they stayed up or not? I think he decided just to give them both barrels? I don’t have a problem with that because there is nothing worse than a player who thinks they are better than they actually are




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Topic Originator: SammyT73  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:48

He was interviewed by Rovers TV to give his opinion and by God he gave it, if players couldn't handle his honesty then they weren't fit to pull on the Jersey, footballers conduct their business for the public in full view and therefore should expect criticism in public, if they can't handle that then they've picked the wrong profession, take it on the chin and try harder.
Would you prefer honest interviews post match or the inane drivel we've been treated to by Crawford and Grant for last 3 years?

COYP
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:55

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Can we stop banging on about his time at Raith, I watched his interview at the time and fully sided with him, yeah he slagged his players off publicly but that's because he felt they were short changing the club and fans with poor attitude and performance, Yogi was a jersey player and always fully committed to whom ever paid his wages, he expects nothing less from his players and that should be applauded. Clearly rovers players had formed a wee clique and didn't like his methods which led to his downfall there, players come and go and shouldn't rule the roost. Only time will tell whether it's the right appointment but I feel confident we'll start to climb the table.


I don’t think anything he said was not true?
It may have been unwise, with hindsight, but he clearly had reached the end of his tether with some of them ?



You didn't need hindsight to know it was an unwise, and flat out bad interview.


Hindsight does show though it was so unwise he alienated the squad to such an extent they got relegated against the worst side to ever play at this level. It was awful man management. I'd rather our gaffer maybe didn't do that.


Hughes had played the players tune for weeks, the same bunch of players who took the mickey out of Gary Locke.
He moly coddled them, listened to them and got it thrown back in his face.
Hindsight didn't get them relegated, it was following the words of a player who didn't want him there and his influence on the rest of the squad


I’m fairly sure he had decided he was leaving at the end of the season whether they stayed up or not? I think he decided just to give them both barrels? I don’t have a problem with that because there is nothing worse than a player who thinks they are better than they actually are


So you wouldn't have a problem if nearing the end of the season, with us firmly in a relegation fight (but still with a chance of survival) Yogi just torched the squad in public, and got us relegated because he was leaving in the summer?

I'd have a big problem with that. Again, I'd really like us to not be relegated. You don't think there was a degree of the manager thinking they were better than they actually were?

It was horrific, I can only hope he's learned from it.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:57

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Can we stop banging on about his time at Raith, I watched his interview at the time and fully sided with him, yeah he slagged his players off publicly but that's because he felt they were short changing the club and fans with poor attitude and performance, Yogi was a jersey player and always fully committed to whom ever paid his wages, he expects nothing less from his players and that should be applauded. Clearly rovers players had formed a wee clique and didn't like his methods which led to his downfall there, players come and go and shouldn't rule the roost. Only time will tell whether it's the right appointment but I feel confident we'll start to climb the table.


I don’t think anything he said was not true?
It may have been unwise, with hindsight, but he clearly had reached the end of his tether with some of them ?



You didn't need hindsight to know it was an unwise, and flat out bad interview.


Hindsight does show though it was so unwise he alienated the squad to such an extent they got relegated against the worst side to ever play at this level. It was awful man management. I'd rather our gaffer maybe didn't do that.


Hughes had played the players tune for weeks, the same bunch of players who took the mickey out of Gary Locke.
He moly coddled them, listened to them and got it thrown back in his face.
Hindsight didn't get them relegated, it was following the words of a player who didn't want him there and his influence on the rest of the squad


I’m fairly sure he had decided he was leaving at the end of the season whether they stayed up or not? I think he decided just to give them both barrels? I don’t have a problem with that because there is nothing worse than a player who thinks they are better than they actually are


So you wouldn't have a problem if nearing the end of the season, with us firmly in a relegation fight (but still with a chance of survival) Yogi just torched the squad in public, and got us relegated because he was leaving in the summer?

I'd have a big problem with that. Again, I'd really like us to not be relegated. You don't think there was a degree of the manager thinking they were better than they actually were?

It was horrific, I can only hope he's learned from it.


I’d hope the bad eggs were weeded out in January. ?
Players should be praised when it’s due and criticised when it’s deserved. What’s the issue ?




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Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 14:57

We are a soft touch and we are the laughing stock of Scottish football.

If the players have anything about them as men, they will dig down deep and seek to remedy these uncomfortable truths. If they can’t or won’t they will be replaced by men who will. Failure is no longer acceptable here. The rot will soon stop. Thank f**k.

Gaun yersel big yogi.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:00

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SammyT73, Fri 12 Nov 14:48

He was interviewed by Rovers TV to give his opinion and by God he gave it, if players couldn't handle his honesty then they weren't fit to pull on the Jersey, footballers conduct their business for the public in full view and therefore should expect criticism in public, if they can't handle that then they've picked the wrong profession, take it on the chin and try harder.
Would you prefer honest interviews post match or the inane drivel we've been treated to by Crawford and Grant for last 3 years?



I've long since stopped caring about post match interviews, they rarely if ever serve as a vehicle of good for the team. At the very least I'd like the manager to not say anything so contentious that it breaks the working relationship between him and the players. You talk about players conducting there business in full view of the public and as such should just expect criticism, I'm sure they do, I'm also sure they don't expect it from the manager, what if the following week the captain had been interviewed and said "The manager is hopeless, we get no instruction from him and the training has been beyond dreadful", fair? What a load of nonsense, criticism should be kept in house, in the dressing room and on the training field. There was absolutely nothing to be gained from publically lambasting your players.

Grant was lauded by people on here for his interviews fwiw.
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:00

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Never10yairds, Fri 12 Nov 14:57

We are a soft touch and we are the laughing stock of Scottish football.

If the players have anything about them as men, they will dig down deep and seek to remedy these uncomfortable truths. If they can’t or won’t they will be replaced by men who will. Failure is no longer acceptable here. The rot will soon stop. Thank f**k.

Gaun yersel big yogi.



Ah some toxic masculinity, lovely.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:01

Look at Ole at Utd. Always praising his players.
Give players an inch and they will take a mile




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Topic Originator: Grant  
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Can we stop banging on about his time at Raith, I watched his interview at the time and fully sided with him, yeah he slagged his players off publicly but that's because he felt they were short changing the club and fans with poor attitude and performance, Yogi was a jersey player and always fully committed to whom ever paid his wages, he expects nothing less from his players and that should be applauded. Clearly rovers players had formed a wee clique and didn't like his methods which led to his downfall there, players come and go and shouldn't rule the roost. Only time will tell whether it's the right appointment but I feel confident we'll start to climb the table.


I don’t think anything he said was not true?
It may have been unwise, with hindsight, but he clearly had reached the end of his tether with some of them ?



You didn't need hindsight to know it was an unwise, and flat out bad interview.


Hindsight does show though it was so unwise he alienated the squad to such an extent they got relegated against the worst side to ever play at this level. It was awful man management. I'd rather our gaffer maybe didn't do that.


Hughes had played the players tune for weeks, the same bunch of players who took the mickey out of Gary Locke.
He moly coddled them, listened to them and got it thrown back in his face.
Hindsight didn't get them relegated, it was following the words of a player who didn't want him there and his influence on the rest of the squad


I’m fairly sure he had decided he was leaving at the end of the season whether they stayed up or not? I think he decided just to give them both barrels? I don’t have a problem with that because there is nothing worse than a player who thinks they are better than they actually are


So you wouldn't have a problem if nearing the end of the season, with us firmly in a relegation fight (but still with a chance of survival) Yogi just torched the squad in public, and got us relegated because he was leaving in the summer?

I'd have a big problem with that. Again, I'd really like us to not be relegated. You don't think there was a degree of the manager thinking they were better than they actually were?

It was horrific, I can only hope he's learned from it.


I’d hope the bad eggs were weeded out in January. ?
Players should be praised when it’s due and criticised when it’s deserved. What’s the issue ?



Just to confirm then -

"you wouldn't have a problem if nearing the end of the season, with us firmly in a relegation fight (but still with a chance of survi
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:04

Grant FFS you really don't like him do you?

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:04

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Look at Ole at Utd. Always praising his players.
Give players an inch and they will take a mile


Look at Yogi at Raith, look at Billy Brown at East Fife.


Any examples of managers lambasting there players in public and it working out?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:08

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Look at Ole at Utd. Always praising his players.
Give players an inch and they will take a mile


Look at Yogi at Raith, look at Billy Brown at East Fife.


Any examples of managers lambasting there players in public and it working out?


Give it a rest min

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Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:08

Call it what you like Grant.

When the excuses stop and hard truths are faced, growth and a path to success begins.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:08

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da_no_1, Fri 12 Nov 15:04

Grant FFS you really don't like him do you?



I strongly disagree with the train of thought that publically lambasting your employees in public will make them perform better.


I just want Dunfermline to not relegated.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:08

Are you actually ever happy GRANT?

Everyone knows we are a laughing stock! Makes a change from the amount of p*sh that gets posted on here directed at the players. DO you think fans screaming at full time, swearing at them etc will make them play any better either?





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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:08

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Can we stop banging on about his time at Raith, I watched his interview at the time and fully sided with him, yeah he slagged his players off publicly but that's because he felt they were short changing the club and fans with poor attitude and performance, Yogi was a jersey player and always fully committed to whom ever paid his wages, he expects nothing less from his players and that should be applauded. Clearly rovers players had formed a wee clique and didn't like his methods which led to his downfall there, players come and go and shouldn't rule the roost. Only time will tell whether it's the right appointment but I feel confident we'll start to climb the table.


I don’t think anything he said was not true?
It may have been unwise, with hindsight, but he clearly had reached the end of his tether with some of them ?



You didn't need hindsight to know it was an unwise, and flat out bad interview.


Hindsight does show though it was so unwise he alienated the squad to such an extent they got relegated against the worst side to ever play at this level. It was awful man management. I'd rather our gaffer maybe didn't do that.


Hughes had played the players tune for weeks, the same bunch of players who took the mickey out of Gary Locke.
He moly coddled them, listened to them and got it thrown back in his face.
Hindsight didn't get them relegated, it was following the words of a player who didn't want him there and his influence on the rest of the squad


I’m fairly sure he had decided he was leaving at the end of the season whether they stayed up or not? I think he decided just to give them both barrels? I don’t have a problem with that because there is nothing worse than a player who thinks they are better than they actually are


So you wouldn't have a problem if nearing the end of the season, with us firmly in a relegation fight (but still with a chance of survival) Yogi just torched the squad in public, and got us relegated because he was leaving in the summer?

I'd have a big problem with that. Again, I'd really like us to not be relegated. You don't think there was a degree of the manager thinking they were better than they actually were?

It was horrific, I can only hope he's learned from it.


Again, the interview came after they lost 5-0 to their relegation rivals which meant that the opportunity to escape from the play off was out of their hands.
After the crap he had been put through by the majority of the players, he was always going to react, he wouldn't be human if he didn't
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:09

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Look at Ole at Utd. Always praising his players.
Give players an inch and they will take a mile


Look at Yogi at Raith, look at Billy Brown at East Fife.


Any examples of managers lambasting there players in public and it working out?


Did he lambast them a few days after he was in the job?
You make it sound that was the sole reason they went down ?




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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:11

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Call it what you like Grant.

When the excuses stop and hard truths are faced, growth and a path to success begins.


We don't need men to be more menly and do some man things to really show some masculinity to get us out of this mess.


We need to be better organised, defend better, have better structure in attack and just generally be better at football. No toxic masculinity pihs
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:11

Players don't like getting called out, but as a fan I'd rather have a man in charge that speaks his mind , than a manager that thinks he can fool fans by saying what he thinks we want to hear

East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:12

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RMGpar, Fri 12 Nov 15:08

Are you actually ever happy GRANT?

Everyone knows we are a laughing stock! Makes a change from the amount of p*sh that gets posted on here directed at the players. DO you think fans screaming at full time, swearing at them etc will make them play any better either?





All the time, cheers for asking.

No I don't, which is why I don't do it, hth.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:14

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Call it what you like Grant.

When the excuses stop and hard truths are faced, growth and a path to success begins.


We don't need men to be more menly and do some man things to really show some masculinity to get us out of this mess.


We need to be better organised, defend better, have better structure in attack and just generally be better at football. No toxic masculinity pihs


Are you like this about all matters, not just fitba? Analysing everything to the nth degree? Picking up on every single word that leaves someone's mouth? Some laugh you must be

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:14

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We are a soft touch and we are the laughing stock of Scottish football.

If the players have anything about them as men, they will dig down deep and seek to remedy these uncomfortable truths. If they can’t or won’t they will be replaced by men who will. Failure is no longer acceptable here. The rot will soon stop. Thank f**k.

Gaun yersel big yogi.


This.
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:15

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Look at Ole at Utd. Always praising his players.
Give players an inch and they will take a mile


Look at Yogi at Raith, look at Billy Brown at East Fife.


Any examples of managers lambasting there players in public and it working out?


Did he lambast them a few days after he was in the job?
You make it sound that was the sole reason they went down ?



Two questions and you still can't answer my one.

No he didn't.

It was a pretty big reason, yes. They got relegated by the worst side to ever play at this level, a team that wouldn't win a game at this level.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:17

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Call it what you like Grant.

When the excuses stop and hard truths are faced, growth and a path to success begins.




We need to be better organised, defend better, have better structure in attack and just generally be better at football.


And this is exactly what Hughes tried to do at the Rovers , a team that was on run of 14 games without a win,
He never lost a game at home, and this was despite a vendetta against him front the start
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:18

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Call it what you like Grant.

When the excuses stop and hard truths are faced, growth and a path to success begins.


We don't need men to be more menly and do some man things to really show some masculinity to get us out of this mess.


We need to be better organised, defend better, have better structure in attack and just generally be better at football. No toxic masculinity pihs


Are you like this about all matters, not just fitba? Analysing everything to the nth degree? Picking up on every single word that leaves someone's mouth? Some laugh you must be



I am once again shocked that you have absolutely nothing useful to post outwith having digs at posters. Never change.

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Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:18

I don’t think self criticism, painfully honest analysis and a desire to improve need necessarily be masculine traits. Seems you are being quite sexist.

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Topic Originator: rawpars  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:22

Welcome to the club Yogi.
Anyone who relegates Raith is a friend of mine.
COYP. !!

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:23

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Call it what you like Grant.

When the excuses stop and hard truths are faced, growth and a path to success begins.




We need to be better organised, defend better, have better structure in attack and just generally be better at football.


And this is exactly what Hughes tried to do at the Rovers , a team that was on run of 14 games without a win,
He never lost a game at home, and this was despite a vendetta against him front the start


Never got a single point away either which didn't really help in there quest.

However you do make a valid point, he had a good home record which would've stood him in good stead for the playoffs, was torching the players like that in public really worth it?
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:23

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I do wonder if out of the two managers who performed well in the interview if Yogi was a lot more accepting of the fact he wouldn’t be able to bring his own backroom team in?


Maybe he simply was the better choice
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:25

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Look at Ole at Utd. Always praising his players.
Give players an inch and they will take a mile


Look at Yogi at Raith, look at Billy Brown at East Fife.


Any examples of managers lambasting there players in public and it working out?


Did he lambast them a few days after he was in the job?
You make it sound that was the sole reason they went down ?



Two questions and you still can't answer my one.

No he didn't.

It was a pretty big reason, yes. They got relegated by the worst side to ever play at this level, a team that wouldn't win a game at this level.


I’ll be honest, Grant. I don’t really care who was to blame at Raith.
I’m only concerned about how he does with us
As has been said, we are a club bottom of the league. We were never going to attract an elite manager with an exemplary record.
Let’s give him a shot. Can’t be worse than what we have had to date ?




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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:25

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I don’t think self criticism, painfully honest analysis and a desire to improve need necessarily be masculine traits. .


Then why did you post this?

"If these players have anything about them as man"
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:26

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Call it what you like Grant.

When the excuses stop and hard truths are faced, growth and a path to success begins.




We need to be better organised, defend better, have better structure in attack and just generally be better at football.


And this is exactly what Hughes tried to do at the Rovers , a team that was on run of 14 games without a win,
He never lost a game at home, and this was despite a vendetta against him front the start


Never got a single point away either which didn't really help in there quest.

However you do make a valid point, he had a good home record which would've stood him in good stead for the playoffs, was torching the players like that in public really worth it?


Well they won their next game......
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:29

Because none of our first team players are women. If they were I’d have said “people”, “adults” or “human beings”.

It’s not a male/female thing.

It’s about being an adult and taking some personal responsibility.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:31

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Look at Ole at Utd. Always praising his players.
Give players an inch and they will take a mile


Look at Yogi at Raith, look at Billy Brown at East Fife.


Any examples of managers lambasting there players in public and it working out?


Did he lambast them a few days after he was in the job?
You make it sound that was the sole reason they went down ?



Two questions and you still can't answer my one.

No he didn't.

It was a pretty big reason, yes. They got relegated by the worst side to ever play at this level, a team that wouldn't win a game at this level.


I’ll be honest, Grant. I don’t really care who was to blame at Raith.
I’m only concerned about how he does with us
As has been said, we are a club bottom of the league. We were never going to attract an elite manager with an exemplary record.
Let’s give him a shot. Can’t be worse than what we have had to date ?



You're a massive fan of asking questions without ever answering them eh? You posted saying you agreed with what he done at Raith, would you be happy if that happens this season? Yogi decides a few weeks out he's not staying past the summer, absolutely torches the squad and we get relegated by Falkirk in the playoffs? I can't imagine you would, nor would anyone in this thread.

Who was to blame at Raith is an interesting topic when you consider we've appointed one of the people involved in the relegation, I'm also concerned with how he does at Dunfermline which is why the parallels that can be drawn with the Raith situation, are worrying.

I hope he's learned from the situation because obviously he didn't get it right, I'd be content to have the most boring interviews in the world if it meant we were skelping teams on a Saturday.

It's a forum, a place for discussion, and then some posters get really angsty when you discuss things, odd.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:35

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Look at Ole at Utd. Always praising his players.
Give players an inch and they will take a mile


Look at Yogi at Raith, look at Billy Brown at East Fife.


Any examples of managers lambasting there players in public and it working out?


Did he lambast them a few days after he was in the job?
You make it sound that was the sole reason they went down ?



Two questions and you still can't answer my one.

No he didn't.

It was a pretty big reason, yes. They got relegated by the worst side to ever play at this level, a team that wouldn't win a game at this level.


I’ll be honest, Grant. I don’t really care who was to blame at Raith.
I’m only concerned about how he does with us
As has been said, we are a club bottom of the league. We were never going to attract an elite manager with an exemplary record.
Let’s give him a shot. Can’t be worse than what we have had to date ?



You're a massive fan of asking questions without ever answering them eh? You posted saying you agreed with what he done at Raith, would you be happy if that happens this season? Yogi decides a few weeks out he's not staying past the summer, absolutely torches the squad and we get relegated by Falkirk in the playoffs? I can't imagine you would, nor would anyone in this thread.

Who was to blame at Raith is an interesting topic when you consider we've appointed one of the people involved in the relegation, I'm also concerned with how he does at Dunfermline which is why the parallels that can be drawn with the Raith situation, are worrying.

I hope he's learned from the situation because obviously he didn't get it right, I'd be content to have the most boring interviews in the world if it meant we were skelping teams on a Saturday.

It's a forum, a place for discussion, and then some posters get really angsty when you discuss things, odd.


I think I’ve already said that perhaps it was unwise with hindsight to have blasted them in public, but clearly it was a last resort ?

Players are given a clean slate when a new manager comes in. Why can’t we give a new manager a clean slate. ?




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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:36

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Because none of our first team players are women. If they were I’d have said “people”, “adults” or “human beings”.

It’s not a male/female thing.

It’s about being an adult and taking some personal responsibility.


Or maybe "football players" because you're surely talking about them in there ability to perform as football players? Just a thought.

It's not about as getting better "men" in January, it'd be about us getting better football players, right?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:36

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Call it what you like Grant.

When the excuses stop and hard truths are faced, growth and a path to success begins.


We don't need men to be more menly and do some man things to really show some masculinity to get us out of this mess.


We need to be better organised, defend better, have better structure in attack and just generally be better at football. No toxic masculinity pihs


Are you like this about all matters, not just fitba? Analysing everything to the nth degree? Picking up on every single word that leaves someone's mouth? Some laugh you must be



I am once again shocked that you have absolutely nothing useful to post outwith having digs at posters. Never change.


Read all my posts today instead of the last one your incessant slagging of a guy who's hours into a new job encouraged me to write. Please change.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:40

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Look at Ole at Utd. Always praising his players.
Give players an inch and they will take a mile


Look at Yogi at Raith, look at Billy Brown at East Fife.


Any examples of managers lambasting there players in public and it working out?


Did he lambast them a few days after he was in the job?
You make it sound that was the sole reason they went down ?



Two questions and you still can't answer my one.

No he didn't.

It was a pretty big reason, yes. They got relegated by the worst side to ever play at this level, a team that wouldn't win a game at this level.


I’ll be honest, Grant. I don’t really care who was to blame at Raith.
I’m only concerned about how he does with us
As has been said, we are a club bottom of the league. We were never going to attract an elite manager with an exemplary record.
Let’s give him a shot. Can’t be worse than what we have had to date ?



You're a massive fan of asking questions without ever answering them eh? You posted saying you agreed with what he done at Raith, would you be happy if that happens this season? Yogi decides a few weeks out he's not staying past the summer, absolutely torches the squad and we get relegated by Falkirk in the playoffs? I can't imagine you would, nor would anyone in this thread.

Who was to blame at Raith is an interesting topic when you consider we've appointed one of the people involved in the relegation, I'm also concerned with how he does at Dunfermline which is why the parallels that can be drawn with the Raith situation, are worrying.

I hope he's learned from the situation because obviously he didn't get it right, I'd be content to have the most boring interviews in the world if it meant we were skelping teams on a Saturday.

It's a forum, a place for discussion, and then some posters get really angsty when you discuss things, odd.


I think I’ve already said that perhaps it was unwise with hindsight to have blasted them in public, but clearly it was a last resort ?

Players are given a clean slate when a new manager comes in. Why can’t we give a new manager a clean slate. ?



You have said you were happy with it, which is why I've asked you if you would be happy if that situation played out at Dunfermline. I just find it bizarre you said you were happy with it even with the benefit of hindsight.


Whenever we sign a new player people also look at their record and discuss whether they'll be a good signing or not. If we were to sign a player who in the not too distant past, had very publically fallen out with his teammates we would d
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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:42

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Call it what you like Grant.

When the excuses stop and hard truths are faced, growth and a path to success begins.


We don't need men to be more menly and do some man things to really show some masculinity to get us out of this mess.


We need to be better organised, defend better, have better structure in attack and just generally be better at football. No toxic masculinity pihs


Are you like this about all matters, not just fitba? Analysing everything to the nth degree? Picking up on every single word that leaves someone's mouth? Some laugh you must be



I am once again shocked that you have absolutely nothing useful to post outwith having digs at posters. Never change.


Read all my posts today instead of the last one your incessant slagging of a guy who's hours into a new job encouraged me to write. Please change.



The post you had a go at me had absolutely nothing to do with John Hughes.

Which I'm not surprised you didn't notice, there's no need to read a post when all you do is have a go at the poster.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:42

To be fair, if you want to analyse every word that comes out of Hughes` mouth, he`ll give you some ammunition. In the interview, unless I`m mistaken, he says at the start he`s not got a magic wand and then later states that he`s going to use his magic wand and/or start sprinkling gold dust.

Similarly, his Raith Rovers rant was a bit of a meltdown. However, he`s been in football management for the majority of the time since 2003 and I can`t remember his doing that before or since - which tends to hint that he was at his wit`s end rather than it being something he`s prone to do.

He wouldn`t have been my choice, but he does give us a chance of moving up the table. I think all he`s trying to convey in the interview is that you don`t start trying to play like Guardiola`s Barca when you`ve 7 draws and 6 defeats from 13 games in the Scottish 2nd tier. Instead, you get a side organised, hard-working, tough to play against and generally fighting hard in every game.



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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:44

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Raymie the Legend, Fri 12 Nov 15:01

Look at Ole at Utd. Always praising his players.
Give players an inch and they will take a mile


Look at Yogi at Raith, look at Billy Brown at East Fife.


Any examples of managers lambasting there players in public and it working out?


Did he lambast them a few days after he was in the job?
You make it sound that was the sole reason they went down ?



Two questions and you still can't answer my one.

No he didn't.

It was a pretty big reason, yes. They got relegated by the worst side to ever play at this level, a team that wouldn't win a game at this level.


I’ll be honest, Grant. I don’t really care who was to blame at Raith.
I’m only concerned about how he does with us
As has been said, we are a club bottom of the league. We were never going to attract an elite manager with an exemplary record.
Let’s give him a shot. Can’t be worse than what we have had to date ?



You're a massive fan of asking questions without ever answering them eh? You posted saying you agreed with what he done at Raith, would you be happy if that happens this season? Yogi decides a few weeks out he's not staying past the summer, absolutely torches the squad and we get relegated by Falkirk in the playoffs? I can't imagine you would, nor would anyone in this thread.

Who was to blame at Raith is an interesting topic when you consider we've appointed one of the people involved in the relegation, I'm also concerned with how he does at Dunfermline which is why the parallels that can be drawn with the Raith situation, are worrying.

I hope he's learned from the situation because obviously he didn't get it right, I'd be content to have the most boring interviews in the world if it meant we were skelping teams on a Saturday.

It's a forum, a place for discussion, and then some posters get really angsty when you discuss things, odd.


I think I’ve already said that perhaps it was unwise with hindsight to have blasted them in public, but clearly it was a last resort ?

Players are given a clean slate when a new manager comes in. Why can’t we give a new manager a clean slate. ?



You have said you were happy with it, which is why I've asked you if you would be happy if that situation played out at Dunfermline. I just find it bizarre you said you were happy with it even with the benefit of hindsight.


Whenever we sign a new player people also look at their record and discuss whether they'll be a good signing or not. If we were to sign a player who in the not too distant past, had very publically f




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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:47

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Topic Originator: kba  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:49

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Never10yairds, Fri 12 Nov 14:57

We are a soft touch and we are the laughing stock of Scottish football.

If the players have anything about them as men, they will dig down deep and seek to remedy these uncomfortable truths. If they can’t or won’t they will be replaced by men who will. Failure is no longer acceptable here. The rot will soon stop. Thank f**k.

Gaun yersel big yogi.


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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:50

Raymie and PARrot, there's a max character limit per post so a few of the quoted posts would need to be deleted so your actual post can be seen.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:51

I think some of them need to be fundamentally better as men/people/adults/mammals to become better footballers.

When you grow up and identody you’re ssues you find a way to be better in all areas of life including your career. Some of them may well have habits or situations outside of football they need to alter to be all they can be as a professional. That’s for each of them to analyse themselves. Have they settled into being generally lazy? Why? Etc. They are less likely to do this when there excuses being made for them. They have an opportunity to improve here. I hope many of them take it and are up to it. The ones that don’t will find themselves out the door sooner or later.

I stopped making excuses and faced some hard truths about 18 months ago and every area of my life has improved exponentially since.


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Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:54

Anybody else just kind of what something to get behind ? I’ve seen a few fans at rovers ect take the mince first weeks out us and now their laughing at the Hughes appointment.. really hope he turns it round here we can shut them up a Bit.

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Topic Originator: parathetic  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:56

Great interview methinks...welcome Yogi, let the good times begin .
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Topic Originator: SammyT73  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:57

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SammyT73, Fri 12 Nov 14:48

He was interviewed by Rovers TV to give his opinion and by God he gave it, if players couldn't handle his honesty then they weren't fit to pull on the Jersey, footballers conduct their business for the public in full view and therefore should expect criticism in public, if they can't handle that then they've picked the wrong profession, take it on the chin and try harder.
Would you prefer honest interviews post match or the inane drivel we've been treated to by Crawford and Grant for last 3 years?



I've long since stopped caring about post match interviews, they rarely if ever serve as a vehicle of good for the team. At the very least I'd like the manager to not say anything so contentious that it breaks the working relationship between him and the players. You talk about players conducting there business in full view of the public and as such should just expect criticism, I'm sure they do, I'm also sure they don't expect it from the manager, what if the following week the captain had been interviewed and said "The manager is hopeless, we get no instruction from him and the training has been beyond dreadful", fair? What a load of nonsense, criticism should be kept in house, in the dressing room and on the training field. There was absolutely nothing to be gained from publically lambasting your players.

Grant was lauded by people on here for his interviews fwiw.


There is a reason the manager is called the MANAGER, it's not rocket science, the buck stops with them so they have to make the decisions and shoulder the responsibility, if a player (who's being managed by a MANAGER) thought he could criticise the manager then it's bye bye, just like in any other walk of life, not saying that right or fair but it is how it is, simple

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:58

Ach Grant you know what? I take that back. You've formed your opinion as you're entitled to. I've tried reigning my posts in a wee bit lately but let my guard down.

I just think it's worth giving him a clean slate and it would seem I'm not alone.

He's not perfect but he'll do

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Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 15:59

Grant, you do know that Brechin we’re in a rich vein of form when they defeated Raith (and Alloa) in the play offs? It was the next season that was such a disaster for them.

Maybe Yogi’s interview was a mistake - we all make them - the most successful managers learn from them.

We get that you’re not happy with the appointment - I think you’ve made your point though.

Personally, I’m delighted he’s here and I loved his enthusiasm in the interview.

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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 16:07

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AJ27, Fri 12 Nov 15:59

Grant, you do know that Brechin we’re in a rich vein of form when they defeated Raith (and Alloa) in the play offs? It was the next season that was such a disaster for them.

Maybe Yogi’s interview was a mistake - we all make them - the most successful managers learn from them.

We get that you’re not happy with the appointment - I think you’ve made your point though.

Personally, I’m delighted he’s here and I loved his enthusiasm in the interview.


Grant….clearly he has learnt from the mistake as he was in an equally similar position last season with Ross County and performed a mini miracle. Id say if you do the same thing 5 years later and it works then lesson learned……
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Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 16:12

I was at both the playoff matches between Brechin and Raith, and the Brechin success was pretty much down to two players - Jean-Yves M'voto of Raith (who gave away 2 of Brechin's goals with abject defending) and Brechin's keeper Graeme Smith (who saved 3 penalties in the shoot--out). There wasn't much any manager could have done.

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Topic Originator: bobopar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 16:23

I was at that Rovers game at Starks Park, Mvoto totally sold the jerseys in the home leg, nothing a manager could do about that, they also had enough chances to win 4 games. I did not like it when he slated players in a tv interview and basically called them wage thieves.

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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 16:39

Perhaps his public blast was not to blame for the relegation then ?
I don’t know when it too place in relation to the play off games. ? I wasn’t at the games but it sounds like Raith did enough to win this tie ?




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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 17:06

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AJ27, Fri 12 Nov 15:59

Grant, you do know that Brechin we’re in a rich vein of form when they defeated Raith (and Alloa) in the play offs?


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In the five games leading upto the playoffs they had won once, drawn twice and lost twice, with the two losses being a 3-1 defeat from Airdrie, and a 6-1 scudding from Alloa. They lost more games than they won that season, finishing fourth in league one.

So AJ, you do know that Brechin were on an average, if not poor run of form when they defeated Raith? You do now.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 17:06

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Raymie the Legend, Fri 12 Nov 16:39

Perhaps his public blast was not to blame for the relegation then ?
I don’t know when it too place in relation to the play off games. ? I wasn’t at the games but it sounds like Raith did enough to win this tie ?


I listened to the game and Raith were very dominant, didn't see it right enough but certainly from the radio they should have won it.

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Topic Originator: dafc  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 17:10

It is a good appointment. Results will eventually dictate. Plenty of time to turn our fortunes around.
Great interview, will not take any prisoners that’s for sure.

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 17:10

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Perhaps his public blast was not to blame for the relegation then ?


The players got so sick of him they voted Barr as there POTY... That'd not a sign that the players and manager are singing of the same song sheet is it?

Like I've said consistently, it was a mistake, I hope he's learned from it, if he has we're all the better for it. He's had ups and downs through his career, we could do with us being an up.

But the re writing of history with regards to Hughes and that Raith season is wild. How can we expect Hughes to have learned from it if you've got fans thinking he done the right thing? Wild.
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Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 17:13

Ffs this forum is becoming a state.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 17:14

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Grant, Fri 12 Nov 17:10

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Raymie the Legend, Fri 12 Nov 16:39

Perhaps his public blast was not to blame for the relegation then ?


The players got so sick of him they voted Barr as there POTY... That'd not a sign that the players and manager are singing of the same song sheet is it?

Like I've said consistently, it was a mistake, I hope he's learned from it, if he has we're all the better for it. He's had ups and downs through his career, we could do with us being an up.

But the re writing of history with regards to Hughes and that Raith season is wild. How can we expect Hughes to have learned from it if you've got fans thinking he done the right thing? Wild.


All about opinions, Grant.
Now give me peace to watch the Scotland game 😉




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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 17:18

Well then.

I was strangely unmoved when I read this. Possibly because my head says “yes” and my heart says “no”. I’ve never been a big fan of Yogi (though I’ve never met him) – nothing to do with his Falkirk or Raith connections - but he ticks a lot of boxes, seems popular with a lot of support, and is the sort of manager I was advocating. He wouldn’t have been my top choice (although my track record would probably have been worse than the board’s), but who knows, if I’d been on the board I might have picked him.

Anyway, he has my backing now.

(As for the coaching staff – it’s difficult to know to what extent they are culpable for our under-performance or not, but I tend to favour continuity, so am content with them carrying on).

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 17:23

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Raymie the Legend, Fri 12 Nov 17:14

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Grant, Fri 12 Nov 17:10

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Raymie the Legend, Fri 12 Nov 16:39

Perhaps his public blast was not to blame for the relegation then ?


The players got so sick of him they voted Barr as there POTY... That'd not a sign that the players and manager are singing of the same song sheet is it?

Like I've said consistently, it was a mistake, I hope he's learned from it, if he has we're all the better for it. He's had ups and downs through his career, we could do with us being an up.

But the re writing of history with regards to Hughes and that Raith season is wild. How can we expect Hughes to have learned from it if you've got fans thinking he done the right thing? Wild.


All about opinions, Grant.
Now give me peace to watch the Scotland game 😉



Precisely Raymie.

I would've preferred Levein and McIntyre and that wouldn't have went down well in here at all. We all just want to see Dunfermline do well.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 17:34

I do like Yogi, met him and Gordon Marshall on a night out in George Street a few years back, and he is a great laugh.
Good interview. I particularly like the stuff about the players winning their individual battles and "manning up". I think that his been an issue for us over the past few years. Too many players shirking responsibility and not standing up for themselves. When things have got tough we have had players that have gone into hiding, that's not on, we need battlers.
Possibly some people won't like the language (toxic masculinity indeed) used when he talks about being men and manning up, but in my opinion it's spot on. It's what is needed
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 18:35

Having watched his interview, it's clear that he's learned the lesson from his ill fated stint at Raith. He said that he couldn't have succeeded at Ross County last season without the experience he'd been through at Starks Park.

It sounds like he's implying that he's unlikely to repeat his mistakes.



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Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 18:36

Does that make Shields Boo Boo?
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Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 18:55

He’ll do for me, a very honest appraisal of the present situation. The teams morale is rock bottom we need someone too reboot the players - the staff - the fans - the whole club. Want people to stop laughing at us? We need to get the proverbial finger out all round. Fight back starts tomorrow……………

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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 18:59

In all honesty he looks like he could still do a job in middle of the park

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Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 19:03

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MDCCCLXXXV, Fri 12 Nov 18:59

In all honesty he looks like he could still do a job in middle of the park


Yep we really do need a midfield general!
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 19:07

Is it weird that out of all our managers in recent years the 2 I've been most excited about are the two I spent the early 90s hurling abuse at. JJ and Yogi

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Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 19:13

Wants to be a legend like Norrie & Big Jock in 15 years time. Made me smile, but one step at a time san...
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 19:29

Topic Originator: GG Riva like | nolike
Date: Fri 12 Nov 18:35

Having watched his interview, it`s clear that he`s learned the lesson from his ill fated stint at Raith. He said that he couldn`t have succeeded at Ross County last season without the experience he`d been through at Starks Park.

It sounds like he`s implying that he`s unlikely to repeat his mistakes.

This he has learned and moved on to be a better man manager

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Topic Originator: k76  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 20:18

Was my 1st choice in the summer.

I am sure Yogi started his career in junior football and ended up playing for Celtic, wasn’t the most talented or gifted player to say the least but got to the highest level with guts, determination, hard work and a willingness to listen to his manager.

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Topic Originator: Taxipar  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 20:59

Pleased with this appointment just a pity he’s not bringing his own staff. He’s been a successful manager at every club apart from the wee team and to be honest the state Gary locke left them they were already a ship with a big gaping hole destined to sink

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Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 22:51

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LEGEND85, Fri 12 Nov 10:50

I must be in the minority with regards to the other 2 coaches Whittaker has only been part of the coaching staff since the end of last season so should be given the chance to learn his trade.

Greg Shields is supposed to be more involved with the youth team so hopefully he can move into that role when it's available.

But it does not upset me that they are both being kept on.

I see on twitter former player James Vincent someone who played under Hughes has said it's a great appointment so clearly Hughes style of management doesn't upset everyone.


Let’s be honest here his style of management will only upset the guys who canny handle the roasting that will come their way for not doing what is asked of them

As for his stint at the rovers I used the gym at the Michael woods Center in Glenrothes a few times when the rovers team trained their and a few of the players seemed more interested in having a carry on rather than actually working so it’s no surprise that we went public with his criticism of them

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Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Fri 12 Nov 22:56

Aye,some players, think they are big time Charlie's, let's hope that's sorted!
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Topic Originator: Daft dan  
Date:   Sat 13 Nov 00:42

At last!

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Topic Originator: PARadise  
Date:   Sat 13 Nov 07:36

Baffled as to why some people have a problem with this appointment, who else would we get? Petrie? No chance. Robbo? You can’t bring someone in who’s potentially not in the right head space or doesn’t have the same level of interest at any time especially when your in a relegation battle. You won’t get much more experienced and committed managers as yogi. Proof will be in the pudding but in yogi I think we’ve got a very good manager with credentials arguably better than anyone we’ve had in the last decade. Pars are going up
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Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Sat 13 Nov 08:38

As I’ve said on here before, I think a lot of people simply can’t take Yogi seriously due to his demeanour and the way he talks. He’s more like a guy off a building site than a manager who normally just bored us with meaningless cliches. I think Hughes is the best appointment we could have made. I’ve always liked the guy he seems to be. Once he gets shot of the utter dross that’s on the playing staff we will do well under him. Looking forward to the future now. He needs time though so hopefully the more intellectually challenged element of our support understand that.

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Topic Originator: Polt  
Date:   Sat 13 Nov 09:08

I`m with the majority on here and feel Yogi is the type of manager we need. I don`t understand the negativity about the backroom team though. Really do we know what guidance/instructions they got from PG?

I think Yogi`s a different type of manager and will get more out of the players and coaching staff, they will know what is required and I feel they will be better equipped to do their jobs under Yogi. He needs time but equally he needs support from the board and fan`s. Realistic short term targets.... Let`s go it`s game on COYP

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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 13 Nov 09:17

I dont want to believe our players are utter dross.
I think they have been managed badly and lost direction and confidence. Hopefully Yogi can bring the best out of them and they can enjoy their jobs again.

It really wont help him in his task if the people who are supposed to encourage them continue to refer to them as utter dross.

Lets get behind ALL OF THEM.



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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sat 13 Nov 09:37

I agree,

I’ve seen enough patches in games where we’ve played well enough to make me think that with the right system, clear roles for players plus someone who can install belief that they can do it and the grit to see games out then we could defo get out this predicament

PS I believe yogi can do this for us

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 13 Nov 10:00

Didn`t he say he thought the players just lacked confidence? I don`t think he even mentioned the January transfer window did he, yet we already have posters on here who seem to think the only solution to our problems is to have a mass clear-out.

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Topic Originator: halbe  
Date:   Sat 13 Nov 10:15

“Baffled as to why some people have a problem with this appointment”

Might be something to do with his managerial record over last 5 years. Over that period 2 half season jobs one which went sideways and for the other one the board at county couldn’t show him the door quick enough. I’m backing the pars board though that they have seen something the rest of Scottish football and beyond have missed.

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Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Sat 13 Nov 10:24

We haven’t played as a team this season, we’ve been so disjointed it’s unreal. I’m sure he will be able to fix that and then it’s inwards and upwards because we have enough good players IMO.
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Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sat 13 Nov 10:40

John Robertson was my 1st choice for our new manager but Yogi was a close 2nd. Very please with this announcement.

Confident that Yogi can get us playing and we won't be going down now. He's inherited an absolute howler of a squad though where confidence is rock bottom. I still think he can get the best out of the lads though.

Amazing what a decent appointment from the BOD can do though. I'm very pleased with Yogi whereas with Grant I was utterly depressed. COYP.
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Topic Originator: dannorm  
Date:   Sat 13 Nov 10:41

I`ve been critical of the BoD in the past but they`ve got this appointment spot on. Yogi is the right man for this club at this time. His approach to football is simple - work hard, work for each other and enjoy yourself and he won`t accept any passengers in the team. Can`t ask for more than that

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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sat 13 Nov 10:53

Just need to give the guy a chance. Proof is in the pudding
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