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 Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 13:35

Apologies no live updates today folks. It’s too cold for my hands. Feel free to add to this thread if you’re in attendance / watching the stream / listening to open all mic etc.

I predict Hamilton 1-3 DAFC.

Mon the Paaaars!
🖤🤍❤️

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 14:06

Team and subs





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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Lambo1885  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 14:12

Thomas injured?
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 14:41

Can do with us scoring a quick Goal , And hopefully get the Hamilton players head`s down ,and for us to kick on from this and score more Goals , Ok I maybe want too much LOL but an early xmas present would be nice by coming away with 3 points

Cmon Ye Pars !!

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:16

Quote:

wulliepar57, Sat 4 Dec 14:41

Can do with us scoring a quick Goal , And hopefully get the Hamilton players head`s down ,and for us to kick on from this and score more Goals , Ok I maybe want too much LOL but an early xmas present would be nice by coming away with 3 points

Cmon Ye Pars !!


We are struggling to get out our half never mind score a quick goal.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:21

Quote:

AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 4 Dec 15:16

Quote:

wulliepar57, Sat 4 Dec 14:41

Can do with us scoring a quick Goal , And hopefully get the Hamilton players head`s down ,and for us to kick on from this and score more Goals , Ok I maybe want too much LOL but an early xmas present would be nice by coming away with 3 points

Cmon Ye Pars !!


We are struggling to get out our half never mind score a quick goal.


Absolute dire 😂

BCM
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:22

We had 2 good breakaways and as usual nothing come of them
Have to agree with you regarding not getting out our Half , we seem to be second to everything at the moment and always wanting to go backwards

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:32

Morton 1-0 up against Ayr

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:35

Not been great, Dow has been poor and wasted a few breakaways but I still think we will win this. Hopefully a half time team talk will sort us out. Can see O`Hara making a difference if he gets a chance.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:41

Oooft chance for Dorrans off the bar

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:46

Agree RossF we have been awful this half absolutely no creativity , saying that we can hardly find our own men with a pass so we cannot expect much
hoping a half time team talk will sort things out
on this park I think O Hara can make a difference if we got the ball over the top for him to run onto , we live in hope because right now we are not at the races

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:48

We are sitting off like we`re playing Celtic.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Swisspar  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:48

Hamilton races ?
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:49

We aren`t scoring with that line up. Kennedy has left us exposed on the left a couple of times and Matty Todd has let a couple of folk just brush past him.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:51

Is Thomas injured?

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:52

Dire so far. Need changes.

Edwards is having a mare but not getting enough protection from Kennedy.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:53

Yep getting rinsed in the wide areas.

We`re making Hamilton look really good.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:54

Swisspar maybe we would be better at the races LOL because we are playing at a canter just now Don`t know if they allow donkeys at the races either
And by the way AdamantparsStripes & the Moose I wrote my post before the game started and that was my wish , I must have been bad this year as I am not getting my Xmas wish
right now we have been worse than dire if that is possible

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Lenstar  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:55

Poor first half, Edwards looks exposed, Kennedy is all over the place and we look one sided, hope half time changes something as as it stands I can’t see a result out of what I’ve seen so far
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 15:59

This is as bad as anything the last manager gave us.

Dorrans is a good player but we desperately need the right players around him.

Dow and Kennedy are invisible today, the latter is so frustrating and I`m not fussed if Rangers take him back.

Get O`Hara on and run the channels because the plan, whatever it is just isn`t working.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Lenstar  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:08

At the moment it’s like a matter of time before they score
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:13

Imagine if Grant had still been in charge ?




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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:14

January can`t come quick enough. The majority of signings Grant made are nowhere near good enough. We desperately need to beef up the midfield. Still think we`ll sneak it today though.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: parak obama  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:17

Red card and penalty to Hamilton

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: parak obama  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:18

Hamilton 1 Pars 0

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Lenstar  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:19

Dorrans can gtf
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: parak obama  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:20

Dorrans red

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:20

On a positive note Dorrans will be suspended now

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:20

We have given the ball away so often it was eventually going to lead to something.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Jacko Par42  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:20

Shouldn’t be club captain, lead by example I right the guys a fud

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:20

Best player in the division as well 😏

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:21

again all our own doing for the penalty , we had plenty chances to clear the ball
The way we are playing today is probably far worse that when PG was in charge
that will be us without a midfield now that Dorrans is off

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:21

Was hoping dorrans would kick on after his performance v ayr. Cost us the game today

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Parsfangaz  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:21

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RossF, Sat 04 Dec 16:14

January can`t come quick enough. The majority of signings Grant made are nowhere near good enough. We desperately need to beef up the midfield. Still think we`ll sneak it today though.


Not just Grants signing that are not good enough in that 11
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:22

Not sure if that was handball but regardless, we have been f*****g dreadful today.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:22

Dorrans with another mistake leading to a goal

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:22

Not one shot on target so far :-((

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Alan  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:22

Hamilton have controlled the game from the start and deserve to be ahead. Once again we have created nothing and look totally devoid of ideas. Absolutely brutal

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:24

Dormans on a two year deal too ffs...

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:24

We better hope Ayr or QOS dont score or we are back down to bottom
3 off us sitting on 13 points just now
Really diabolical stuff , most of this team need punted ASAP

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Lenstar  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:25

Hamilton have been all over the top of us from the off tbh, we’ve been 2nd to everything and in possession we’ve given them it back via poor passing decisions
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:25

Mental that the board let Grant sign Dorrans and Mehmet on 2 year deals
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:25

One bright note is that Dorrans will be missing next week……

Don’t think I have seen Edwards as bad. Lost count how often he has been caught in position and gave the ball away.

Need DT back next week.

This team will be involved in a relegation battle without a doubt regardless of the manager.

We don’t really have a leader….

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:26

Thankfully Kennedy is now off. Be as well heading to Glasgow and not bothering coming back.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:29

Grant is still heavily to blame for this along with the board for appointing him. We were in the playoffs last season and bringing Grant in destroyed all that hard work. We should have pushed on from last season but so far this has been a complete disaster. I`m still convinced Yogi will turn it around but he needs backing in January.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:32

Accies supporting mate texts me and says we are easily the worst team he has seen all season. Hard to argue watching that insipid performance.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:33

Ayr scored, were 2nd bottom

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:35

Dorrans best player at the club. Aye right.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: DrumRoad  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:35

Reality bites us in the bum

Sloppy today & any half time talk by Yogi looks like has fallen on deaf ears

Any hope of closing the gap on the top 5 has taken a serious dent today, it’s been a hard watch so far today

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: d3monstrate  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:35

Queens Park 5-0 Falkirk...

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:36

We`re bottom equal Toddyrov - same GD as QOS

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:37

men against boys - really disappointing

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:37

Ayr now winning 2-1

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: DrumRoad  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:37

Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: d3monstrate like | nolike
Date: Sat 4 Dec 16:35

Queens Park 5-0 Falkirk...


Well if anything was gonna cheer me up, that’s it………… with bells on

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:37

A present from MOrton lifts us off. A draw for us now would be excellent. Where`s a balloon when you need it?



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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:39

It’s never going to be easy after Grant’s tenure.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:39

Lol drum road that’s a funny joke.

We’ll be lucky to stay up, just look at the team we put out today, thats a league 1 midfield and forward line if I ever saw one.

Massive January….we need some deals ready to go on the 1st.

Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:43

Queens Park 6 nil up now. Louis Longridge one of the scorers.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:43

Morton have equalised 2-2 now

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: yorkiepar  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:44

I see from the BBC stats that, 85 minutes in, we have had zero shots on target. Yogi’s got a lot of work to do.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:44

Morton 2-2 Ayr United

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Parnott  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:46

Could be worse and be a Falkirk fan tonight. 😳
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: 68guns  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:48

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:48

If the doonhamers score late were feked

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:52

Topic Originator: 68guns like | nolike
Date: Sat 4 Dec 16:48

Absolute muppets on here rejoicing that our best player will be suspended and seem to think that Thomas is the messiah.
Seems if you throw your hand in the air when things don`t go your way you are a firm favourite of some rockets.


Best player? Aye at going side ways. He cost us last week. He is a liability IMO.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:52

Our best player is dorrans? Go have a lie down mate ..maybe 10 years ago

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:52

Back to square one - poor team selection, no plan, no aggression, inability to pass the ball. Nothing positive at all.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:53

Think it shows how bad a group of players we have, absolute shysters wearing that strip.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:54

Back down to earth with a bump again here. That was as bad a showing as anything of Peter Grants and not one of our players was better than their opposite number today.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 16:57

They better turn up next week. Big big game……

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:00

What has happened to the team that hardly gave Ayr United a kick of the ball 2 weeks ago?
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton v DAFC
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:00

A lot of folk got carried away following a couple of wins v Inverness and Ayr. That Hamilton team got put out the cup by a junior team last week. I’ve said all along, the squad isn’t good enough. Can’t wait for the window to open, I hope the board back Yogi well.

Dorrans being suspended next week is the only positive to come out of that today. He should never have retained the captaincy after the incident with the supporters. That’s been Yogi’s one mistake, allowing Dorrans to remain captain. I hope we sign a couple of decent central midfielders in January and he can’t get in the team after then.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:00

The only team in the bottom that got beat today , everyone else gained a point !
That was absolutely horrible to watch , you cannot blame PG today we have to blame JH for a poor team selection , absolutely total inability to pass the ball to a team mate , I am wondering what they do at training as all we hear is they boys this the boys that , about time the same boys proved it !
I am sure there were a few who didn`t renew their season ticket when PG was appointed and if they were watching today I am pretty sure if they were thinking about renewing the will be thinking twice !
Words just fail me tonight , I have seen some horror shows from the PG tenure but I am afraid today was right up there beside them
Play like this next week and QOS will beat us too, I wish there was a positive to write about but not one player gets a pass mark from me

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:04

Has to be the worst squad we’ve had in the Championship in recent years. The January window is rarely the salvation that is needed this time round. We’re genuinely in a fight to avoid relegation play offs.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:04

So much for going on a charge up the table to catch the league leaders !!!

Reality checks are sobering.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:04

Anyone know? Was Thomas injured?

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:05

Kennedy can go back to Rangers pronto.

sand dancer, weak, no heart and one of the biggest divers I have seen at our club.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: BA  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:05

I like Yogi, he’s done alright so far and has my backing, but I can’t help but feel he needs to wake up a bit if he thinks McCann is the best striker at the club just now. Not saying for a second any of them have been great this season so far but to have Whighton, Todorov and O’Hara on the bench is a bit baffling - he’s not giving them a run out under him yet. Surely a good coach can see Lewis had a good day against Ayr and that’s all it was and he’s not permanently ready to lead the line at this level ?!

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Mr P  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:07

I was watching the stream and it was very poor from us, but the performance from the ref was worse, he never gave us the beefit of the doubt with any fouls, we seemed to get close to them and a foul very poor refereeing in my opinion, as far as the penalty is concerned, how the ref saw a hand ball is beyond me, it wasn`t easy to see and a red card too. so it must have been deliberate which I am not conviced, but wouldneed to see it again.

Playing a young team is all well and good but they will blow hot and cold, we needed experience in the team today especially up front. this is a game we should have won, but the performance tells a different story.

Disappointed.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:07

Quote:

elvis_lives, Sat 4 Dec 17:05

Kennedy can go back to Rangers pronto.

sand dancer, weak, no heart and one of the biggest divers I have seen at our club.


Yogi, the saviour. My bottom

BCM

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:11

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The moose, Sat 4 Dec 17:07

Quote:

elvis_lives, Sat 4 Dec 17:05

Kennedy can go back to Rangers pronto.

sand dancer, weak, no heart and one of the biggest divers I have seen at our club.


Yogi, the saviour. My bottom


Ffs what do want him to do with the garbage at his disposal?
Grow up min we have to give him a chance.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:15

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Rastapari, Sat 4 Dec 17:11

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The moose, Sat 4 Dec 17:07

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elvis_lives, Sat 4 Dec 17:05

Kennedy can go back to Rangers pronto.

sand dancer, weak, no heart and one of the biggest divers I have seen at our club.


Yogi, the saviour. My bottom


Ffs what do want him to do with the garbage at his disposal?
Grow up min we have to give him a chance.


Feck off

BCM
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: GG4  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:15

Our squad is just p*** poor. Thinking this is going to come down to who we can punt and replace them with in January.

My list- Mehmet, Pybus, Jones, Cole, Allan, Todd, McDonald and Todorov.

8 players who just really aren`t quality taking a wage.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:16

Agree BA Mcann on that game against Ayr deserved the plaudits as he had an exceptional day but since then he has only huffed and puffed not his fault as he is giving100% but surely the manager can see this , IMO he is not good enough to lead the line for us , we have better sitting on the bench and before I get crucified
for my comments it is only my honest opinion , and if I have to go further there is not many in our squad just now worthy of a jersey most of them need to go to Specsavers as they cannot pass the ball to their own player
And to blame everything on Kennedy is a wee bit off the mark everyone in the team was absolutely stinking today and in reality most other games , 2 games we seemed to turn the corner today Normal service was resumed
And Mr P your post is spot on



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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:17

John Hughes was quite clear in his first interview that there was a lot of work to be done. We got the breaks against Ayr and once we had a few goals cushion we stroked the ball about beautifully. An away game against Hamilton in atrocious weather is a different proposition. The notion that many were putting about that we had excellent players who were just mismanaged by PG is beginning to be tested. Individually and collectively we have a long way to go to start producing consistently good performances and results.

On the other hand the "not so Wee Team" are just one point from top spot.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:20

I’m actually looking at the squad and there isn’t one player I would be jumping at the bit to keep.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: xgatesmafia  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:21

Didn’t see it but sounds ( from the radio) like we created the better chances in the game and did not too bad with ten men and threatened an equaliser towards the end . I still think, even with the squad as it is currently, we ll stay up. We ll hopefully manage 1 or 2 additions in Jan.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:24

Atrocious weather in Hamilton? It wasn’t even raining so strange comment to be making. Anyway, our squad is absolutely awful. For me yogi has to take some blame in playing guys like Todd and McCann are just not up to it. Dorrans yet again another mistake leading to a goal, probably worst performance of the season we had absolutely nothing about us it was pathetic stuff. Even though he’s not the best, pybus is by far a better midfield option than Todd and O’Hara needs to be starting games by far the best striker at the club

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: par-91  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:25

A lot of work to be done. Without Dom Thomas, we have a real lack of players who can create anything. That was really dull and uninspiring today. MacDonald on the wing just doesn’t work at all. Kennedy just doesn’t seem interested and should be sent back to Rangers. There was no creativity at all today and the midfield weren’t making runs/looking for the ball - particularly once Dorrans went off. Is Wilson injured again? If not, he should be playing ahead of every midfielder other than Dorrans.

We have no leadership on the park. First half, when we were under pressure and Hamilton had a few corners, it was noticeable that every player had their head down and there was no communication, nobody trying to spur their teammates on. Just 11 men going through the motions.

January’s not far away and hopefully Yogi can have a decent re-shuffle.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:27

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xgatesmafia, Sat 4 Dec 17:21

Didn’t see it but sounds ( from the radio) like we created the better chances in the game and did not too bad with ten men and threatened an equaliser towards the end . I still think, even with the squad as it is currently, we ll stay up. We ll hopefully manage 1 or 2 additions in Jan.


Yeah you definitely didn`t watch that.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Slop-par  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:30

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He has now proved that brutal is an understatement and I absolutely hate the C***


After all that`s happened with Ross McArthur in the last wee while, is there really a need to use such words against anyone? Criticise by all means but let`s not lose the heid.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:31

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The moose, Sat 4 Dec 17:15

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Rastapari, Sat 4 Dec 17:11

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The moose, Sat 4 Dec 17:07

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elvis_lives, Sat 4 Dec 17:05

Kennedy can go back to Rangers pronto.

sand dancer, weak, no heart and one of the biggest divers I have seen at our club.


Yogi, the saviour. My bottom


Ffs what do want him to do with the garbage at his disposal?
Grow up min we have to give him a chance.


Feck off


Moose, have you ever posted anything remotely positive, at any time?

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: dpard  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:38

That was as poor as anything Grant served up. Mcdonald, Dow, Kennedy, Todd, McCann were all terrible today.
Dorrans and the defence were ok 1st half but second half was a shambles all over.
Even the substitutions were poor.
A bad day at the office
Onwards and upwards next week.

The flame still burns
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: par-91  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:42

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Lucho_8, Sat 04 Dec 16:41

Knew Dorrans was brutal before he played for us.
He has now proved that brutal is an understatement and I absolutely hate the C***

Hope he never plays for us again


Get a grip. He was better than the other 2 in midfield today, until getting sent off. Some of our supporters’ vendetta against Dorrans is pathetic.

Speaking of which, anyone know who runs the @ParsReview Twitter page? Tweeted nonsense suggesting Dorrans through the armband away to fuel this vendetta. Despite the truth being that he threw it to Connolly. Truly pathetic stuff from a supposed fan.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 17:50

Regarding the atrocious weather conditions Parsfan97, you probably have a fair point, I was judging the weather conditions from the top of Conic Hill overlooking Loch Lomond where it was blowing a gale and raining buckets at 2pm.



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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 18:01

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par-91, Sat 04 Dec 17:42

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Lucho_8, Sat 04 Dec 16:41

Knew Dorrans was brutal before he played for us.
He has now proved that brutal is an understatement and I absolutely hate the C***

Hope he never plays for us again


Get a grip. He was better than the other 2 in midfield today, until getting sent off. Some of our supporters’ vendetta against Dorrans is pathetic.

Speaking of which, anyone know who runs the @ParsReview Twitter page? Tweeted nonsense suggesting Dorrans through the armband away to fuel this vendetta. Despite the truth being that he threw it to Connolly. Truly pathetic stuff from a supposed fan.


That review thing is atrocious. Wouldn’t listen to that page, not many people I do to be fair. Wannabe reporter
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 18:06

I would doubt Dorrans was best of our midfield but so what? Our midfield is/was dire and it was just a matter of when and how they would score. It turned to be a penalty but came eventually from another shambles when another player gave another ball away. In other words, they were finding it difficult to find players to pass to.
At that point corner one was cleared off the line and corner two resulted in the penalty. Inevitability all over it.
If the manager`s tactics are telling players to hold the ball until they find another to pass to then we have a problem. How often were we caught in possession today?

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 18:12

Ben Crawford`s dad runs it.

dreadful performance whether it was 11 or 10 men on the park, so many players nowhere near up to it today and there has to be changes next week in both personnel and shape.

Dorrans, to me it looked pretty clear on the stream it wasnt a handball and the way Munro was trying to see it i wonder if the linesman gave it.



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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 18:25

If it wasn`t a handball surely we can appeal the red card and get Dorrans back from suspension? Couldn`t watch the game today, but really disappointing we couldn`t take advantage of a horrendous Hamilton side. We`re in a relegation battle, and it looks like we`ll need to find some real quality in January to get us out of this situation
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 18:27

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king lad, Sat 04 Dec 18:25

If it wasn`t a handball surely we can appeal the red card and get Dorrans back from suspension? Couldn`t watch the game today, but really disappointing we couldn`t take advantage of a horrendous Hamilton side. We`re in a relegation battle, and it looks like we`ll need to find some real quality in January to get us out of this situation


Agree. Squad is lacking in quality and we need another 3/4 starters




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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 18:33

Law 12 for handball in the area shows where on the arm it is a handball
and his was not a handball ! also referee when giving a penalty should be 100% sure that it was , doesn`t help us today as we deserved to get beat with a lackluster display like that ` cannot even beat a honking Hamilton side , shows now how bad we really are

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 19:26

I don`t think that JH has a magic wand. As he said there is alot of hard work to do. Some of the players at the club are not good enough. PG is partly responsible for that with the players he brought in. The January window may come at the right time but its going to be a fight to stay up in my view. Some of the players whether on longer deals or not, should probably move on at the end of the season. Sometimes you have to wipe the slate clean and start afresh.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 19:33

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xgatesmafia, Sat 04 Dec 17:21

Didn’t see it but sounds ( from the radio) like we created the better chances in the game and did not too bad with ten men and threatened an equaliser towards the end . I still think, even with the squad as it is currently, we ll stay up. We ll hopefully manage 1 or 2 additions in Jan.


Whoever was reporting needs drug tested asap. We could barely put two passes together the whole game (other than the centre halves knocking it back and forward then back to the keeper). Nobody in midfield wanted the ball, nobody was moving. Connolly was acting like our creative player today, must have had more touches than anyone else. We didn’t threaten towards the end, we had the ball in the final third 2 or 3 times but done absolutely nothing with it. It was like a training game for a p*** poor Hamilton side.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 19:58

Couldn`t see if it was handball from the far end, but whether or not it was, a sending off for a handball on the line is not something for which any player should be ripped to bits. It`s not as if he did something absolutely ridiculous that cost us the game and he was far from our worst player today.

However, what an absolute disgrace of an effort that was from the team as a whole. For sheer awfulness it rivals that gutless shambles at Ayr under Grant. Awful from the players on the park, but also poor from the manager. And sorry to say, the bad bits on the management side today were very similar to those from the start of Grant`s tiem that ultimately caused him to fail. Pass, pass, pass. No directness to our play, no aggression, and trying to get players to do things they aren`t comfortable with in a tight spot instead of just doing the simple thing. It made us completely uncompetitive all over the pitch. I don`t know if we got a bad break when the penalty was given, but whether or not we did, Hamilton (who did not play very well) were the better team and we deserved to lose the game. After what had gone before, the `response` to going a goal and a man down was entirely predictable.

As a start, can we maybe get a grip on this stupid situation on the right side of our defence. The basic shape has a simple 4 at the back but they`ve obviously been told to change in some situations, where Comrie drops more central and McDonald comes back to defend the wide position. I first saw it when we beat Ayr - my thought was that it didn`t work too well and there was no understanding as to who was doing what. And today we were all over the place with it. Aaron Comrie has been poor this year compared to what we`ve seen in the past, but since Crawford`s `innovative` approach when we lost 5-1 at Starks, Comrie seems to have been involved in anything `clever` that`s been attempted. It would hardly be a surprise if the poor guy doesn`t know what he`s meant to be doing as he`s been pulled all over the place tactically. And it wouldn`t be a surprise if it`s affected his game generally. Oh, and generally anything clever or unconventional we`ve attempted in the last year has been a total failure.

Secondly, if we`re in a tight spot, can we please just do the simple thing and bang it out of the park for a shy sometimes, or play a percentage ball up the line? This insistence on trying to play out every time is utterly mental. I get it - the intention is to keep the ball and give us a chance of building an attack, but it just isn`t always on and it`s asking a lot in a struggling team.

The new manager needs time to sort things out, but he is not faultless for today`s shambles.

Thanks to the Hamilton tannoy man for his music choice today, reminding me that there actually are worse things in life than watching the Pars having a collective nightmare. The mental torture of imagining it being Christmas every day is definitely worse than being passed ineffectively t

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: k76  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 20:00

Today’s performance was awful, worst I have seen in many years.

Lost to an awful Hamilton team who were beaten by a Junior side last week.

Honeymoon period is now over for Yogi, he has inherited a very poor squad that has no depth.

Was optimistic that we could get back into the play off chase but realistically avoiding the bottom 2 would be a successful season.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 20:41

Not sure where to start - Hamilton were very poor and didn’t create much but they worked harder than us all over the park - too many of our players don’t look fit enough to press the opposition. Kyle MacDonald looks like a fish out of water in midfield and I don’t understand why Todd is starting every week now - I’d have both Paul Allen and Dan Pybus ahead of him. The least said about Kennedy the better.

Not convinced about McCann and I don’t get the clamour for O’Hara - he was very poor again when he came on today - loves a good moan but his touch is poor and he’s brushed out of fifty fifties far too easily. I’d go with Wighton and Todorov up front (although not overly confident about them either).

I really hope Thomas isn’t out for too long either - we certainly missed him today.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: DrumRoad  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 20:41

Topic Originator: k76 like | nolike
Date: Sat 4 Dec 20:00


Was optimistic that we could get back into the play off chase but realistically avoiding the bottom 2 would be a successful season.




Avoiding relegation would hardly be a successful season k76, the opportunity for the pars to have a “successful season” is long gone IMO

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 21:54

Definitely wasn’t a red card nor a penalty! Hit his chest which would’ve been a decent clearance. We have to appeal that, referee got it totally wrong. However, we could still be playing now and not score, McCann is too easily brushed off the ball and doesn’t actually look like a goalscorer. Kennedy can run with the ball but that’s it, his final pass is shocking and hardly ever reaches a teammate (perhaps that’s why he falls over invisible chunks of earth so much)

Dorrans could be a great player for us but needs better players around him, currently he’s surrounded by mediocrity who aren’t on the same wavelength leading to misplaced passes that better players would’ve been ready for.

Personally I think we’d have been better off with a whole new set of coaches to bring new ideas to the table. Today they played as if Peter Grant was still in the dugout.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: parfection  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 22:19

“Secondly, if we`re in a tight spot, can we please just do the simple thing and bang it out of the park for a shy sometimes, or play a percentage ball up the line? This insistence on trying to play out every time is utterly mental.”

I was at the game today and I too couldn’t believe our insistence on possession at the back either. I’m all for retaining possession IF there’s a point to it. There is a time to stop taking stupid risks and we ran the gauntlet far too often for my liking.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 22:42

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ParfectXI, Sat 4 Dec 21:54

Definitely wasn’t a red card nor a penalty! Hit his chest which would’ve been a decent clearance. We have to appeal that, referee got it totally wrong. However, we could still be playing now and not score, McCann is too easily brushed off the ball and doesn’t actually look like a goalscorer. Kennedy can run with the ball but that’s it, his final pass is shocking and hardly ever reaches a teammate (perhaps that’s why he falls over invisible chunks of earth so much)

Dorrans could be a great player for us but needs better players around him, currently he’s surrounded by mediocrity who aren’t on the same wavelength leading to misplaced passes that better players would’ve been ready for.

Personally I think we’d have been better off with a whole new set of coaches to bring new ideas to the table. Today they played as if Peter Grant was still in the dugout.


Good post

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 06:30

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parfection, Sat 4 Dec 22:19

“Secondly, if we`re in a tight spot, can we please just do the simple thing and bang it out of the park for a shy sometimes, or play a percentage ball up the line? This insistence on trying to play out every time is utterly mental.”

I was at the game today and I too couldn’t believe our insistence on possession at the back either. I’m all for retaining possession IF there’s a point to it. There is a time to stop taking stupid risks and we ran the gauntlet far too often for my liking.


Don`t understand the style of football of passing it out from the back , surly that level of skill base is way above the standard that our current players are at?
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 08:17

That was hard to watch, two poor teams and very little quality. It looked like the referee guessed at the penalty, I don`t think the linesman would have had a better view to give it either, otherwise that would have been 0-0 as Hamilton looked as inept as us.

It was similar to the Ayr game, we are very, very ponderous in possession. There is almost no creativity in that team. Most of the time, the only two players that look to pass forward are the centre backs, the rest of them just take the easy option every time.

OFW was rooted to his line as normal for each corner, which helped lead to the goal but was otherwise fine and the defence was ok, although Edwards was pretty ropey.

In midfield, Dorrans was tidy but almost always just passes it sideways to the centre backs, he needs to do more than this. Dow was really poor again, McDonald is not a right winger by any stretch of the imagination, Todd had little impact and Kennedy the same - but we need to get him on the ball higher up the pitch and facing the opposition goal. McCann tried his best but was isolated.

For me, the experiment with McDonald at right wing has to stop, Dow goes out wide or he goes on the bench. Pybus comes in for Todd and Allan comes in if Dorrans is suspended.

OFW

Comrie
Connolly
Gaspuitus
Edwards (just)

Dorrans/Allan
Pybus

Dow
Wighton
Kennedy

McCann

Either that or put one of O`Hara or Todorov up top with McCann and play more direct.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Bod1004  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 08:24

Just watched the goal, OFW, comes and misses the corner, ball off post, another shot, off Dorrans chest, penalty , sending off game over, if OFW, had done better at corner all that wouldn’t have happened,

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 08:49

Surprised at the stick Dorrans is getting for that. It was a very harsh penalty and never a sending off. As much as Hamilton were by miles the better team, they never would have scored from open play.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 09:21

That`s a very poor decision by the ref with serious ramifications - penalty, goal, sending off, suspension. Dorrans actually leans into the ball to keep it away from his arm. Let`s hope we can get some mitigation by successfully appealing the red card.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 09:30

Good post socks
We have been all over the place for many weeks now
There isn`t 2 players in the team that know what each other is doing



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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: SammyT73  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 09:43

I agree, never a penalty, didn`t hit arm low enough and he`s trying to turn away so it hits his chest, poor refereeing that

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 09:49

Goes to show who watches the game against those who just jump on anything said here…

How this thread has turned from Dorrans gtf, absolutely useless to it was never a penalty in the first place.

Only .net man.

Didn’t watch the game but not too surprised by the result, this season our target is avoid relegation, we don’t have a good squad, any thoughts of us going to Hamilton and battering them were misguided.

JH in his interviews has always been about not conceding, it gives you the foundation to win a game and worst case, not lose. On that basis, again not surprised we went defensive but problem is it needs to be balanced with a bit of offence or we have no chance of winning and you can’t go 90mins defending at any level without conceding.

It’s the midfield that’s the problem, that’s where we need to create to give our strikers an opportunity. Dorrans is a good player, a coup for a team at our level, we just need the right type of players around him. Todd, Allen, Pybus aren’t those, add to it Dow who has just never been the same since his injury.

Stand by us having good strikers, Wighton, Todorov and O’Hara, on paper match up to anyone else in this league, but they are now sitting on a bench and when they come on have no chance if we aren’t even making an opportunity for them.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 10:02

A `match thread` implies anything relevant to the match can be raised, Berry. What`s the problem with that? You even get contributions from people who, by their own admission, didn`t see the game!😊😊😊

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 10:04

Good post Berry.

Dorrans is a good player but we need to learn fast how to utilise him best. If we are going to play him he has to be supported better with players to take the ball off him and move forward because if we don`t everything goes sideways and we go nowhere.

Desperately need a keeper and 2 established midfielders in January

And please Yogi, get any 2 of those 4 strikers in the team. I like McCann but he has no support especially if Dow puts his invisibility cloak on like yesterday

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: smithy  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 10:09

Looking back at replay of the incident leading to penalty.. it was not a pen as ball hit chest area but his hand was also inside the silhouette position and no attempt from hand towards making deliberate contact with ball. So never a pen.

I think the club should appeal for what it’s worth but you do tend to find the sfa high guard would not change the red card as it will make out that their ref got it wrong.

Despite that it was a really poor effort and to have no shots on target again is worrying.
Tbh the whole team needs a over haul in January as I just imo nobody wants to take leadership, fight, preform for the jersey. Let’s be honest here Crawford got more out this bunch.

I don’t think yogi would have accepted that performance and told the players to buck up or you’ll never play for that jersey again.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 10:15

I`m suprised there was no half time reaction, surly not aceptable and they should have been told at half time. Too many players hiding and not taking responsibility, worrying indeed.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 10:58

Also surprised at the stick Dorrans got when he almost scored for us hitting the underside of the bar, and he seemed to be unjustly sent off while saving a possible goal on the line with his chest. For me, he has been one of our better players in recent matches. He wasn`t getting much help going forward from the midfield in front of him yesterday.

I am sure Dorrans knows he shouldn`t have responded to abuse from some fans after the Queens game the way he did. However, I have some sympathy for him, as in the heat of the moment, one can sometimes snap. Many years ago I was coach of a team playing a higher league (Mbabatho TV League) team away in then Bophutatswana`s National Castle Lager Cup knockout competition. We had dominated much of the game and were very unfortunate to be 1-0 down at half-time after one mistake that they punished. You couldn`t have faulted our players and their effort was magnificent. That didn`t stop one supporter of ours screaming at us for substitutions (based on the score and not how we were playing). In the heat of the moment, and in frustration, I snapped and swore back at him. All ended well as we continued where we left off in the second half and ended up eventually scoring three to deservedly win 3-1 and pull off a giant-killing feat that made the back pages of the local newspaper. After the game, the fan in question came up and apologised to me, as I did to him. Cut Dorrans some slack - in the heat of the moment we have all probably over-reacted at some times in our lives. For me, as his fitness has build up, he has become one of our better players.

While differences of opinion and criticism are fine, the nasty tone behind some of the comments from some posters looking for a fall guy and criticising Dorrans (and especially use of the words "hate" and "c***") is not called for. Seems some people are happiest trying to pull others down. If his shot had been a few inches lower he would have scored and on another day he would have saved a goal on the line (and not been sent off).

Edwards had a poor game yesterday, and without any service, an isolated McCann upfront was limited in what he could do. Dow and Kennedy also had poor games with Macdonald not threatening and getting crosses in. Apart from the first few minutes, Hamilton dominated. They also seemed to press with more intensity than we did. We seem to be so languid at times and could do with picking up the tempo. Our failure in this regard suggests that our general fitness levels may be worse than other teams.

I must say, I was surprised that Yogi didn`t change things around at half-time yesterday, and waited so long before making any changes - seeing as they were dominant in midfield and McCann was getting little ball. Fortunately, Hamilton weren`t threatening our goal much either. While Hamilton were the better team for most of the game (with their main threats coming from corners), it is still galling that they won due to that penalty decis

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 11:02

.. due to that penalty decision.

As Raymie has suggested and the manager has intimated, we need to get some players in - which is always a challenge in the upcoming transfer window.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 11:04

Good post, RP, as usual.

I, too, was surprised there was no improvement in attitude or tactical changes sooner during the second half




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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: NikNakPar  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 11:09

I don`t get why some folk slate Dorrans. As been mentioned it wasnt a penalty. A referee mistake has cost us a player and a goal which we were never going to recover from. We never looked like scoring with 11 players but either did Hamilton. 0-0 away from home regardless who it is against is not bad if we win our home games.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 11:20

Just to add, Dorrans is by a mile our best centre midfielder. He needs someone with him to do the running. I would personally play Pybus and O`Hara as a link man between midfield and striker. Dow needs a spell on the bench. We seriously need two/three centre midfielders in January. Getting Euan Henderson back would be perfect as he would be the creative link we`re missing.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 11:25

"I, too, was surprised there was no improvement in attitude or tactical changes sooner during the second half"

it looked like the tried to get Todd slightly further forward but that was about it.

looking at Hughes comments since last week about the midfield, number 10 role, cant get 2 strikers in and now with Thomas injured, i wonder if 3 at the back will come out next week.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 12:07

KK - He was like an unlit firework yesterday. He came short for the ball & looked to pass it every time. Can’t understand why he wasn’t taking on the FB at every opportunity. We needed a threat going forward down the flanks, we have a battering ram of a CF just waiting for the right cross.

1-0 down with 10 men & the game was gone.

Good luck sorting this out Yogi your going to need it.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 12:46

That`s an absolute shocker of a decision for the penalty. Referees can make wrong decisions that are understandable but that one is utterly ridiculous. Genuinely no idea how he can make that call.

It doesn`t change anything about how badly we played and we might have lost the game anyway, but it`s hugely frustrating that the one big call that turned the game against us was so utterly wrong.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 13:37

I thought we were uncoordinated, disjointed and lacked urgency.

That encompasses the team selection, the tactics and their execution. And the use of substitutes – what was going on there? The subs were sitting in that gazebo thing opposite the main stand, periodically coming out to warm-up in front of the away fans. But when we wanted to make an actual change, we had to send one of the coaching staff to run half way round the pitch (past the subs who were warming up) and then shout at someone to hurry up, run half way round the pitch and get stripped. They would have been quicker using carrier pigeons.

I thought there might have been more changes after the cup game, but in the event there was just the enforced one of Kennedy for Thomas. That was more of a vote of confidence in the other ten than I might have expected. As it turned out, McCann seemed isolated for most of the game – presumably Dow or Kennedy (or even Macdonald) was meant to provide support but that didn’t happen. Kennedy needs to learn that whereas you might get penalties at Ibrox for falling over in the box, elsewhere else you are only likely to get booked. Dow is an excellent player IMO but seems to have difficulty adjusting to his post-injury capabilities.

Clearly they were trying to play the ball out from the back – fair enough (assuming we get into their half ever) but it is excruciatingly dull to watch, and it seemed to play into Hamilton’s hands – coming off the back of a bad result they might have been vulnerable but we put them under little pressure – did their keeper have a save to make? We couldn’t seem to co-ordinate runs and passes – I thought players were looking for the ball, but when they got it, it tended to go straight back the way it had come from. I think one of our few attacks came from a punt over the top from Todd, after we’d messed up a throw-in.

I’ll throw in a couple of general observations.

I don’t believe good players become bad players from week to week (or vice versa). Perhaps this is a function of how quickly people post after a game.

Young players tend to be inconsistent – I think ideally you’d give them a few games in then a couple of games out.

We could perhaps debate the merits of constantly chopping and changing your team every close season, relying on loanees or developing your youth players but that might be for another thread.

Plus a question – do Yogi’s teams have a particular style of play? Or does it depend on circumstance? Yesterday they looked like a team that had been told to keep possession and not take risks. Are they getting clear instructions? Someone pointed out that when Yogi joined he claimed he didn’t have a magic wand and yet promised to use his magic wand in the same interview. OK, excusable in the context of a media piece in the excitement of getting the job, but I hope his coaching is less contradictory.




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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 14:39

And I note from the highlights Dorrans also had a shot that went just past the post and just prior to the penalty incident he also headed the ball off the line.
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 15:03

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RhinoPars, Sun 05 Dec 14:39

And I note from the highlights Dorrans also had a shot that went just past the post and just prior to the penalty incident he also headed the ball off the line.


If people have a bee in their bonnet about a certain player it won’t matter what that player has done previously in the match - including his shot off the bar - their scapegoating is exacerbated when he is deemed to have made an error.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 15:11

I`ve come to the conclusion that a lot of Pars` fans don`t like having footballers in midfield, they prefer athletes who run about a lot to no real effect.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Mon 6 Dec 17:14

appeal has gone in for Dorrans red card according to the Courier.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 10:36

The appeal has been successful for Dorrans
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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 10:37

Good.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 10:47

Does that mean the ref was wrong to give a penalty or could it be a penalty but not a sending-off offence? I`m totally confused by the laws relating to penalties/sendings off now.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: GPar00  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 11:01

wee eck wrote:

> Does that mean the ref was wrong to give a penalty or could it
> be a penalty but not a sending-off offence? I`m totally
> confused by the laws relating to penalties/sendings off now.
>
Ref admitting they got it wrong as he was sent off for a deliberate handball and that is why the penalty was given.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: 1985Par  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 11:39

As bad as we were on saturday the ref`s howler could have been the defining moment. There`s been many occasions when a team has played garbage but defended resolutely and nicked a goal late on against the run of play to win the game. Not trying to sugar coat the rotten performance but who knows how the game could have finished if the ref had made the correct call.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 12:46

Ref should be punished in some way. Send him up to Thurso for a midweek game or something




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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 13:09

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1985Par, Wed 8 Dec 11:39

As bad as we were on saturday the ref`s howler could have been the defining moment. There`s been many occasions when a team has played garbage but defended resolutely and nicked a goal late on against the run of play to win the game. Not trying to sugar coat the rotten performance but who knows how the game could have finished if the ref had made the correct call.


It`s tempting to think the game would have finished 0-0, but of course either team could have nicked the decisive goal. The decision certainly put paid to any chance we had of taking something from the game. It`s just as well we`re not even halfway through the season or a decision like that could have drastic consequences, if we were still at the wrong end of the table.



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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 13:14

I remember when Bobby Madden sent off Lee Ashcroft in the first leg of the promotion play-offs at East End a few years ago. There was still a while to go in the game which ended 0-0. We successfully appealed against the red card. I recall he gave a penalty and red card in a cup-tie against Ross County which decided the tie around the same time and that red card was successfully appealed too. There didn`t seem to be any implications for Madden. In fact his career has gone from strength to strength since then.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 13:18

I honestly don`t see why they can`t chalk off the goal. Declare a draw.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Ianoappar  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 13:49

Totally agree the sending off and resulting penalty to win the game should both be rescinded, resulting in the game being declared a draw.That would be the fair thing to do,but fat chance of that.Quicker VAR is introduced the better to make up for the poor standard of referees and linesmen.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 19:13

I believe a referee gets several hundred pounds for refereeing a game at our level. Perhaps everytime the make a large mistake like ours they should lose a hundred pounds. They then would be pushing for the use of VAR.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 19:39

The suggestion of disallowing the gaol retrospectively is obviously ridiculous. How the game is played very much depends on the score at any given time and knowing the result as the final whistle blows is absolutely fundamental. It was one awful decision and to be honest I can`t think of too many real shockers that have gone agasint us like that for some time. Sure, we`ve had bad calls go against us but usually you can understand why the referee made the decision he did, even if it was wrong.

I think wee eck is conflating separate incidents. Unless there was a different cup game agasint Ross County, I think you`re thinking of the incident where we should have had a free kick on the halfway line that the referee missed, before they broke and immediately won a penalty. Bobby Madden wasn`t even the referee that day. Madden sent Lee Ashcroft off again in a Scottish Cup game at Stark`s Park, but it wasn`t an especially bad call.

This is the Ross County game I think is being referred to, just to rekindle memories of when we actually scored goals in Scottish Cup games:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fdX6ceqJds

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 20:05

Socks, the cup-tie involving Ross County wasn`t against us. I should have made that clearer. I think it may have been against Killie at Rugby Park and the penalty was virtually the last kick of the ball.

From the SUN 20/01/18

SUPER sub Lee Erwin clinched a fifth-round slot for Killie with a last-gasp penalty that left County raging.

It looked as though the Staggies would hold on for a replay in Dingwall on Tuesday when they were caught out as Rory McKenzie burst into the box and appeared to be pushed over by Tim Chow. Ref Bobby Madden certainly thought so and pointed to the spot before sending Chow off despite a massive County protest.

Erwin was given the task of winning the match and he drilled a low spot kick into the left corner.


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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 19:03

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PARrot, Wed 8 Dec 13:18

I honestly don`t see why they can`t chalk off the goal. Declare a draw.


Even allowing for the fact that you are a birdbrain, that`s a very silly squawk, PARrot. 🙂

As Socks explains, there`s no way of knowing how the game would have finished had the pen and red card not been given. At the very most, in games where a serious error has been made, a replay might be ordered by the governing body.

I`m sure this happened in the Bundesliga when the referee awarded a goal but TV pictures showed that the ball had passed into the net through a hole from outside the post. (I hope I`ve explained that clearly enough - the ball passed the outside of the post but ended up in the net.)



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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 21:02

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GG Riva, Thu 9 Dec 19:03

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PARrot, Wed 8 Dec 13:18

I honestly don`t see why they can`t chalk off the goal. Declare a draw.


Even allowing for the fact that you are a birdbrain, that`s a very silly squawk, PARrot. 🙂

As Socks explains, there`s no way of knowing how the game would have finished had the pen and red card not been given.....


I don`t see why that matters a jot. The result is already false so why does it matter if its iffy for another reason.
If it wasn`t a penalty, it wasn`t a goal. Simple.

Score should be 0-0 regardless of what may or may not have happened.

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 10 Dec 06:42

"I don`t see why that matters a jot. The result is already false so why does it matter if its iffy for another reason.
If it wasn`t a penalty, it wasn`t a goal. Simple."

Score should be 0-0 regardless of what may or may not have happened.

You may not agree and may quite rightly feel hard done by, like everyone connected with the Pars, but games simply cannot be re-refereed every time the match officials make a mistake which leads to a goal. What if the ref had wrongly chalked off a Pars equaliser? Would you be claiming the Pars had in actual fact won 1-0 and should be awarded 3 pts? What if a team scores the winning goal from a corner, when TV evidence shows it should have been a goal kick for the defending team? A wrongly awarded throw in? A free kick? The list is endless and a complete minefield....

While I have every sympathy for your stance, I don`t believe for a moment that you`re being totally serious - your logic is beyond silly. ☹️



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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 10 Dec 07:56

Would have been interesting if such an incident had occurred in a game involving the "ugly sisters"!🤔😷🏁
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 10 Dec 08:30

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LochgellyAlbert, Fri 10 Dec 07:56

Would have been interesting if such an incident had occurred in a game involving the "ugly sisters"!🤔😷🏁


Safe to say it would have been given far more publicity, LA. The outrage among the fans of the club on the wrong end of the decision would have been off the Richter scale. 😃



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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Fri 10 Dec 09:13

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GG Riva, Fri 10 Dec 06:42

"I don`t see why that matters a jot. The result is already false so why does it matter if its iffy for another reason.
If it wasn`t a penalty, it wasn`t a goal. Simple."

Score should be 0-0 regardless of what may or may not have happened.

You may not agree and may quite rightly feel hard done by, like everyone connected with the Pars, but games simply cannot be re-refereed every time the match officials make a mistake which leads to a goal. What if the ref had wrongly chalked off a Pars equaliser? Would you be claiming the Pars had in actual fact won 1-0 and should be awarded 3 pts? What if a team scores the winning goal from a corner, when TV evidence shows it should have been a goal kick for the defending team? A wrongly awarded throw in? A free kick? The list is endless and a complete minefield....

While I have every sympathy for your stance, I don`t believe for a moment that you`re being totally serious - your logic is beyond silly. ☹️


I hear what you say but very few corners result in goals and none go to tribunal.

You couldnt rectify every foul or throw in, but penalties are a different matter.

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 10 Dec 09:50

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PARrot, Fri 10 Dec 09:13

I hear what you say but very few corners result in goals and none go to tribunal.

What about those that do though?

You couldnt rectify every foul or throw in, but penalties are a different matter.


Why is that? A penalty in football is hardly like a penalty try in rugby. I wonder what percentage are converted? I`d be surprised if it`s more than 2/3.



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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 10 Dec 09:53

The fact is bad decisions happen every week up and down the country and many of them determine the outcome of games. Fans just have to suck it up and hope they get the rub of the green at a later date. Saturday`s was a triple whammy as it involved a penalty, sending-off and suspension. Fortunately we got redress re the suspension.

VAR would help avoid most of these injustices. One thing VAR has highlighted is how many decisions officials get wrong without technological assistance.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Fri 10 Dec 19:52

The useless turds that we pay for at the BBC have been talking about Hamiltons win last week. However there has been no mention that it was a mistake by the referee that gave them the penalty.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Thu 16 Dec 21:03

not long before we get to see Mr Munro in the middle again, been appointed to the New Year derby game at Raith.

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 Re: Match thread : Hamilton 1-0 DAFC
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Thu 16 Dec 21:19

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GJS93, Thu 16 Dec 21:03

not long before we get to see Mr Munro in the middle again, been appointed to the New Year derby game at Raith.


Good.
He owes us a penalty

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