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 Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 12:38

Big game today, hopefully we can get a win. Same starting 11 as last week for me COYP

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 12:59

Can Buffy sneak in and provide clandestine match reports ?
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 13:18

A win will be tough but even if we can get a draw, I expect Raith to beat Ayr and go top.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 14:20

Same side as last week with Kennedy on bench
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Connor560  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 14:48

Was expected - was out best performance of the season thus far.

C'mon Ye Pars!
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: sjapar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 14:53

Allan ,Todd and McCann

Am I the only one that thinks they aren’t the answer ?!

For me the are simply not good enough at this level .

Really need to strengthen in January we look very weak all over the pitch .

I would add hopefully am proved wrong by the said players above today .

scott
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 14:56

I wonder if something behind the scenes happened with Gaspuitis as again Graham picked ahead of him on the bench. Pleased that Paul Allan is playing again as he is a good passer of the ball and looks to make himself available.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Connor560  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 14:59

Hughes said they were setting traps against Gaspuitas because he`s a right footer playing left centre and it was too easy to get around him

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:03

How is big vitas not getting in the squad. IMO he’s clearly better than breen and Graham.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:06

FFS

“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:08

Don`t even know why I bother streaming this. Grant and his signings have ruined us this year
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:08

Another shocking goal to lose. Awfully dispossessed and Breen could have done so much better.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:08

Easier to deal with that ball and clear it than put it into your own net. Absolute howler.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:09

How useless was that, no pressure on Breen

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:10

What was that, nightmare. Why have we got to make things so difficult for ourselves?
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Kaiser  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:11

What the actual feck do they get coached day in day out.
Can’t even do the basics.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:12

So our left footed centre back preferred to Gasputis swipes it with his left foot rather than using his right and puts it in his own net. Couldn`t make it up.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: FRED1981  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:16

Gasputus no even sub

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: fly boy  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:16

Pathetic so far. Shocking goal to lose then sideways back sideways back

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:16

We have 3 or 4 players that would struggle to get games for Cowdenbeath

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:21

This is absolutely murder
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:21

I hope we have signings ready to go 1st of jan because to be honest there are some players on that park I hope never play for us again.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:23

Wighton looks well off the pace here. Far from his best.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:24

It sad when you have to admit Arbroath are streets ahead of us. How on earth did we get in this position? Plenty time left but we`re struggling to do the simple things yet again.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:28

Sorry VEE it’s too cold for me
Plus I didn’t fancy being there with no fans in attendance 😞

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:29

PS could the OP update the title with the score please

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Connor560  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:30

Dorrans and Allan still to make a forward pass between them!

C'mon Ye Pars!
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:33

Ayr 1-0 against Raith , we really need to get the finger out and get something from this game today

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:34

Quote:

buffy, Sun 26 Dec 15:29

PS could the OP update the title with the score please


Do they have to!?!? 😟
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:34

Arbroath don’t look like they are breaking sweat here.

We are too slow & predictable.

“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: dover par  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:36

Glad my ppv didn’t go through now,sounds like £12 saved. 😁

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:38

Wighton is an impostor of a football player.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:38

Why’s Kennedy benched ? He got a knock ?

Effe
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:39

I’d take Todd off for Kennedy or O Hara, contributing nothing.
Could sub any of them to be fair, all hopeless.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:40

We are rotten back pass after back pass. Surely there is a better option out there than breen.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: fly boy  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:42

Not one player showing any creativity. No one taking on a player or thinking about a forward pass.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:42

Once again we need to up our tempo and look to be more direct
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:43

We need to be much more direct in our play, we`re not good enough to be passing it sideways and backwards trying to keep possession
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:43

Kennedy on - but tell him to play the ball after beating a couple of folk as opposed to trying to beat another two and losing it
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:44

Arbroath don`t need to try too hard here since we have handed them the initiative by conceding the early goal and don`t have enough urgency to breech their defence. They`re just sitting back soaking up our feeble attacks and looking to hit on the break.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:45

This is horrendous to watch. We are really bad. We struggle to do basic things properly. Worst pars squad in my 30 years going.

I’m looking forward to half time and a large portion of double chocolate Yule log.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:45

Some strike

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:46

How bad are we?!?!?

Ps great second goal

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:46

11 shirts for sale. No previous owners.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:46

And that, as they say, is that.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Connor560  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:47

Good strike by the boy but both Dorrans and Connolly just turn their back instead of trying to block it!

C'mon Ye Pars!
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: fly boy  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:47

What an absolute s*itfest

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:47

They are great in training though....
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Lenstar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:47

Absolute keech, I’ve switched this pash off
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:47

Time to switch off and do something useful?

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:48

Oh cripes
DAFC 0-2 Arbroath

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:48

Did that No happen at the last Arbroath game ? Just turned there backs and boom.

Effe
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: mars par  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:49

Utterly pathetic performance. I honestly feel like chucking it for the season, this squad is spineless and totally devoid of talent. It`s depressing to see how far we`ve fallen

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Foxypar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:49

Switching this over. Can’t take it anymore!! Utter guff

FP
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:49

Edwards keeps giving the ball away time after time
Goal for Arbroath well that will be game over now !! unless Yogi makes subs and changes things , Arbroath have only had 2 chances at goal and score with one of them ! absolutely shocking watching this just now , we probably couldn`t beat a Sunday league pub team just now on this performance , too many wayward passes and too many back the way

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:49

Too many players waiting on someone else doing something.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:49

Owned by Arbroath.

Played 3 and never got near them.

We will be lucky to stay up.

“.........your on mute Jordan” 😀
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Zimbo  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:49

Quote:

Connor560, Sun 26 Dec 15:47

Good strike by the boy but both Dorrans and Connolly just turn their back instead of trying to block it!


Yup. Sums this lot up. No guts at all.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: FRED1981  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:50

No better than Grant Kennedy and Lithuanian should have started Todd and Allan will never do ,Hughes get to feck.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:52

If I could go to sleep now until early May to find out we`d avoided relegation by the skin of our teeth, I`d be ecstatic
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:53

If this is the start of our push for the top four, it looks more like a death wish for relegation.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:53

That is as bad a first half as I have seen. Slow, laboured build-up, more back passes than forward, no one making runs, Wighton is a man short. Why is Kennedy not playing, especially with Thomas missing? Relegation form.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Parplod  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:53

Jason Thomson has shown more creativity than our entire team.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:54

I hope Hughes has got some Gems up his sleeve for the January window !
but on the other hand at present who would want to sign for us ?
As FRED1981 says we aren`t seeing anything different from the Grant Stint same old same old , the way we are playing it is hard to see where a goal will come from for us excuse the punt but Granted we still have some Grant signings on the park which is surprising as they are rank rotten!



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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:54

Quote:

FRED1981, Sun 26 Dec 15:50

No better than Grant Kennedy and Lithuanian should have started Todd and Allan will never do ,Hughes get to feck.


Is Hughes the answer to our problems?

BCM
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Parsfangaz  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:56

Quote:

The moose, Sun 26 Dec 15:54

Quote:

FRED1981, Sun 26 Dec 15:50

No better than Grant Kennedy and Lithuanian should have started Todd and Allan will never do ,Hughes get to feck.


Is Hughes the answer to our problems?


What kind of question is that ? How many of Hughes signings are playing today ?
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:56

Remember that Arbroath are the top team. They may be part-time but they`re top for a reason.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: dover par  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:58

Quote:

The moose, Sun 26 Dec 15:54

Quote:

FRED1981, Sun 26 Dec 15:50

No better than Grant Kennedy and Lithuanian should have started Todd and Allan will never do ,Hughes get to feck.


Is Hughes the answer to our problems?


Beginning to ask myself the same question,talks a good story but this team are as bad as ever.

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 15:59

Ayr one up at HT
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:01

It’s still Peter grants terrible signings, the signings we have aren’t good enough and we have to play 3 young guys who aren’t simply good enough at this level

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Jacko Par42  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:01

Ffs, Hughes get tae **** man there’s a few roasters on this forum. Hughes can only p*** with the c*ck he’s got, he has inherited this pile of **** and until the transfer window opens and hopefully he can bring in some decent players we will be rank rotten.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:07

I feel mixed with Hughes, he does have some amount of dross at his disposal but Iam confused to why breen, todd, Allan and Dow all start.

Effe
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:11

Really looking forward to the vast majority of these players being emptied in the summer.

Almost all are out of contract except Dorrans and Mehmet, hopefully we find a way to get rid of them as well.

I’d keep about 3 or 4 players from this seasons squad, the only one I’d really be set on keeping is Dom Thomas.

Peter Grant has assembled the worst pars squad I’ve seen in 30 years. We badly need a few players in January just to stay up.

This is depressing.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:11

Hughes has been given only one real goal this year, to keep us up. Long way to go but he`s got a job on his hands.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Bod1004  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:13

Absolute shambles of a performance, I have seen more effort and energy in a game of 5s at Pitreavie

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:14

I don’t think we can blame Hughes yet, he needs to be allowed to sign his own players before we can judge him too harshly. I don’t understand why he starts Breen ahead of Vytas tho as I said at kick off today.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:14

Bit too easy to keep blaming Peter Grant for everything. Even the players that Peter Grant didn`t sign are proving to be way too poor. Many were suggesting at the beginning of the season that the players were excellent but the tactics and management were awful. Maybe the main problem lies with the players after all.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:16

We are definite relegation candidates without any questions.
Woeful doesn`t cover it.

Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:16

I mean are we really surprised here? Todd, McCann, breen, Allen, dow are not championship level players, some never will be.

We are effectively playing what in previous years would be our reserve team. We have been royally shafted.

It’s at the point where to stay up we need hughes to sign some cracking players and they must hit the ground running or we’ll do well to stay up.

I don’t fancy out chances against any of the top 4 in league 1 but a miracle needed to get this team finish 8th?



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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:16

Easily the worst team we’ve had at this level. Utter, utter dross

I would only be upset about losing Dom Thomas if every player suddenly left the club.

I Know There's Gonna Be (Good Times)
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:20

O`Hara on for Wighton, one impostor for another?

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:20

Double sub
⬅️ Craig Wighton & Matt Todd
➡️ Kevin O`Hara & Kai Kennedy

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:21

Nouble had another good game again.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:22

Shambles of a performance so far ,lucky to be only 2 down

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:22

These players are at this level for a reason. They are awful. If I couldn’t do my job after training and training every day then I’d be let go. I wish so-called professional footballers were treated the same. This group are truly one of the worst squads we’ve ever had.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:23

Ref: Paralex
Sun 26 Dec 16:14

> Maybe the main problem lies with the players after all.

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No, it`s the ref`s fault. All he needs to do is chalk off both goals for cheek and send off three o` them for enjoying their Boxing day stroll too much.



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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:23

Paralex

I’ve been pretty consistent in saying the squad isn’t good enough. Even in my most optimistic moments I’ve maintained we badly need 4 players. On days like today I’d like to rip it up and start again entirely.

Grant either signed or extended every player in that squad except one or two. The buck stops with him. They wouldn’t be on our books if he hadn’t offered them contracts.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: mars par  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:26

I don`t think there`s any doubt that the players are at fault. Grant fell well short of expectations but there`s players in this current squad that haven`t been playing to their potential going back to Crawford`s tenure, let alone Grant and Hughes.

My hope with Hughes coming in was that he`d maybe put a rocket up the players (a decent squad on paper) but we`re looking evey bit as spineless and uninterested as we were under Grant. I just hope Hughes can shift a bit of the deadwood in January and bring in a few players with some fight/hunger

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Andrew C  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:28

Need to bring Gaspuitus back in

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Perkins  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:31

Hughes doing a repeat of what he did at Raith

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:32

"My hope with Hughes coming in was that he`d maybe put a rocket up the players (a decent squad on paper) but we`re looking evey bit as spineless and uninterested as we were under Grant. I just hope Hughes can shift a bit of the deadwood in January and bring in a few players with some fight/hunger"

Was thinking mars par If they already know they are gettin binned they are not giving the proverbial feck

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:32

The worry is that Hughes has made a few missteps already and another is that he doesn`t have a fantastic record bringing in his own players at other clubs.

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Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:34

I`m surprised at how little the board are being criticised for us being in this position. They brought in Grant rather than employing a manger who actually applied for the job. The majority on here could see it would be a disaster and signed a good few players who were massive downgrades from last season. They seriously need to redeem themselves by backing Yogi in January and even look at letting some of the players we signed in the summer go. Every single position in the squad needs strengthened. It`s a shame our best player picked up and injury when we were looking slightly better.

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Topic Originator: theparsman1885  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:34

Gobsh1te replaces gobsh1te

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:36

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RossF, Sun 26 Dec 16:34

I`m surprised at how little the board are being criticised for us being in this position. They brought in Grant rather than employing a manger who actually applied for the job. The majority on here could see it would be a disaster and signed a good few players who were massive downgrades from last season. They seriously need to redeem themselves by backing Yogi in January and even look at letting some of the players we signed in the summer go. Every single position in the squad needs strengthened. It`s a shame our best player picked up and injury when we were looking slightly better.


I think it`s been discussed many times 🙂
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:37

O’Hara with two good efforts. Stopped only by Gaston.

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Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:38

2-0 for Ayr now

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Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:38

Breen should never play for the club again, absolutely useless

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:38

Ayr 2-0 up

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Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:38

Breen again…… I hope he never starts for us again. Big vytas is streets ahead of him.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:39

Have Arbroath scored 10 against us so far this season ?

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:39

Absolutely fkn garbage.

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:39

That was my fault 😞

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:39

Well beaten by part time Arbroath. They could win the league and we could finish bottom. How times have changed.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:40

And Ayr 2 up.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:40

Breen is as bad as Graham.. absolute awful. Load of rubbish about wanting a lifer footer in that position

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:40

Graham Dorrans at motm.


Wild, absolutely wild.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: allparone  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:41

Are Parstv not allowed to award MOM to the opposing team lol?
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:41

blooming missed that 3rd goal for Arbroath but maybe it is a good thing
No energy from this team at all none of them look interested or is it because they are chasing shadows most of the game ? and we have absolutely no midfield at all
very hard to keep watching this crap week after week
let`s hope things change in the New Year and we can get rid of most of the dross here

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Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:41

Dorrans motm?! Wtf? He’s been brutal.

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Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:41

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Grant, Sun 26 Dec 16:40

Graham Dorrans at motm.


Wild, absolutely wild.


Like being the tallest of the seven dwarves.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:42

Paul Allan and Matty Todd proving that to throw any more money at a.. failed youth policy is folly. The youth players in Fife are just not good enough

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: plainview  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:43

Against Arbroath this season we have conceded 10 goals in 3 matches.

Our players are absolutely brutal, “professionals” incapable of passing or taking a touch under even the slightest bit of pressure.

I’d be more than happy to never see any of these players playing today put on a Pars strip ever again. There has to be someone/anyone out there that would be an improvement over this garbage.
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Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:43

Think it’s time to take a break from the Pars.

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:43

Killie gk sent off and Hamilton get a goal back 2-3

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Murphy  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:44

The easiest 3 points this season for Arbroath.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: dpard  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:45

Dropping Vytas for Been was mental in the 1st place and seems worse week on week.
Todd could possibly be the worst player I`ve seen in a Pars top.
McCann is obviously Yogi`s new favourite, how he has lasted the 90mins in each game is beyond me. Yes he`s done ok in certain games but the others he`s been poor. He has been anonymous today.

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Topic Originator: mars par  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:46

Dorrans has made the fewest mistakes to be fair, largely because he only passes 5 yards back the way

And you always get his obligatory shot that is ballooned 20 yards over the bar. Shows the difference in class watching McKenna take his goal as well as he did

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Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:49

"I think it`s been discussed many times 🙂"

There are people starting to point the finger at Yogi now, which surprises me. He can take no blame for us being in this position. He`s got no option to play players who should in reality be no where near the team. The only criticism I can see on his part is playing Breen over Vytas. I didn`t think I would ever see a defender worse than Ross Graham but Breen is certainly up there!

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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:49

Arbroath only need 2 players to beat us Nouble and Gaston.

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Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:50

No wonder teams enjoy coming to EEP we give them the freedom of the place to do as they like
As it stands QOS who didn`t play today on same amount of games now at 18 and they are 3 points clear of us and 6 goals better off

Ayr up to 7th on 18 points now
and yes no change for us still on 14 points
only Morton with 13 points and played same amount of games below us and only -1 goal seperates us
Dire reading
absolutely nothing positive to write unfortunately ( hope our next game is called off so we don`t get beat )

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Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:52

Now I know why the board banned our own fans. It saved the team from getting booed off the park.
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:54

Struggling to see how we finish any higher than 9th, even with a good few new players. It’s an absolutely dire situation we are in.

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Topic Originator: Parallel Lines  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:54

League one beckons as we are awful. We aren`t going to bring in ten players in January. Yogi Hughes....hmmmm

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Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:55

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RossF, Sun 26 Dec 16:49

"I think it`s been discussed many times 🙂"

There are people starting to point the finger at Yogi now, which surprises me. He can take no blame for us being in this position. !


He can take a fair amount of blame.


Those comments at the end about signing Nouble and ToB are embarrassing BTW, we`ve got Arbroath fans tuning in for that and I was cringing.
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:56

Ross, hughes is also playing the like of Todd ahead of pybus.

Hughes refuses to even give todarov a few minutes despite him proving in the past he can do a job in this league.

I’m in the hughes needs more time camp but he’s doing a grand job of alienating some of the more experienced players at the expense of playing young players who have been terrible but are guaranteed a game every week.

Apart from ayr at home it’s like we haven’t changed manager at all, the levels, commitment, tactics haven’t improved.

Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!

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Topic Originator: Bod1004  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:56

That’s as bad as I have seen, totally lacking the basics in all aspects of the match, really need a clear out (if we can afford it) going to be a long hard back end of the season to avoid relegation

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Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:59

Absolute waste of time and money watching this lot !!
especially when you know what the outcome will be
That`s twice now this season at home Arbroath have put 3 past us without a reply the game up there they gave us 2 goals of a start and we still got beat !
I think most teams that have beat us at home have scored 3 against us !
Shows how far we have fallen , needs sorted quickly or its 1st division and we will be lucky if we get 500 supporters at the games

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Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 16:59

Never mind, players. Once you’ve relegated us you can go on to another club no problem then drift off into obscurity where you belong. Not one of these players will ever go on to better things. Relegation fodder is the height of most of their careers. Pathetic bunch of losers.

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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:03

We suffer from a basic fact that we have no midfield, Dorrans plays so far back he is an extra defender as for Todd and Allen the would be lucky to get in a 1st div squad no drive toatally lacking any kind of strength and basic footballers at the best , a team needs a midfield that push forward supporting the front line we totally lack this , a lot of work for the January window

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Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:05

"Ross, hughes is also playing the like of Todd ahead of pybus.

Hughes refuses to even give todarov a few minutes despite him proving in the past he can do a job in this league.

I’m in the hughes needs more time camp but he’s doing a grand job of alienating some of the more experienced players at the expense of playing young players who have been terrible but are guaranteed a game every week.

Apart from ayr at home it’s like we haven’t changed manager at all, the levels, commitment, tactics haven’t improved."

I have to say, apart from the league cup Todorov has looked awful. He was one of the signings I thought would be a success but he hasn`t impressed at all. Perhaps he needs two wingers constantly crossing the ball into to him to be any sort of threat and that is something we lack at the moment.

I don`t rate Pybus either but agree Todd should be nowhere near the team. We need easily 6 or 7 signings in January to save our season.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:12

The most disappointing thing for me was that we actually looked quite good last week at Kilmarnock but were way off it today. Maybe that`s just because Arbroath are a better side than Killie but we lost most of the 50-50s today and rarely got behind their defence. Too many players are happy to play a safe ball rather than play it forward or take a man on.

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Topic Originator: GG4  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:13

Another pathetic display from this bunch of players. Not one should be kept on and quite a few would struggle to get a game for Cowdenbeath currently. Imposters come to mind. Pissed off doesn`t even come close.

They should be embarrassed collecting a wage after serving up that pihs.

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Topic Originator: 1985Par  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:14

Hughes can only work with the squad he inherited. Is he getting more out of them than the previous manager though? No. He isn’t.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:20

As has been said before, it`s not that easy to move players on who aren`t out of contract. You have to find a club who`ll take them and the players will not want to be financially worse off.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:21

All well and good talking of offloading players but also need to look at who would replace them!
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Topic Originator: yorkiepar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:22

Today was a first. Never before logged out of PPV but ……….
Really, that is the most dispiriting display I’ve seen in a very long time and I do watch most games.
What is the problem? I repeat, what IS the problem?
Is it psychological? Our players look like a beaten team almost from the kick-off. So this must be a factor. And when Hughes says he likes what he’s seeing in training is he just trying to boost levels of confidence?
The manager? I don’t think you can blame the manager; yet. This is a squad he inherited and I imagine he’s still trying to work out what on earth he can do with them. Personally I don’t hold out much hope of improvement via the January transfer window: I don’t think we have the resources to upgrade the current squad.
The squad? Now, if I was a professional footballer I think I’d want to win the ball, would want to win challenges, would want to attack with pace and would want to get the ball into the box in dangerous positions. So what is it with the Pars? Arbroath - a part time club - were streets ahead in every department. There was a steeliness and determination in their game that we can’t vaguely emulate. I’m no statistician but I’d be interested to know the percentage of balls that get passed cross field or back. I can’t be the only one holding my head in my hands when I watch OFW to Breen to Edwards, back to Breen, to Connolly, back to Breen, returned to OFW. And that’s when we’re 2-0 down for pity’s sake. What hope do the forwards have when they have to deal with that sort of “build-up”?
Enough from me.
Suffice to say this is going to be a very long season with absolutely no guarantee of a positive conclusion.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:28

Right!! Time for a wee bit of perspective here. Arbroath once beat a team 36-0 in a cup game. They have only beaten us 10-2 in our last three games with them. Surely that casts new light on the situation. So maybe not so bad? 🤔

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:28

Going to be interesting if Arbroath win the league, part time players with a part time management?

Going to do what Cowdenbeath did a long time ago, decided that they couldn`t afford to to up?

Still, we could take half their squad off them!
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Topic Originator: Dumpster  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:29

Spineless performance. Sums it up accurately in my view. Players and management team need to take a hard look at themselves as that was brutal to watch. Losing 3-0 at home to a P/T side irrespective of where they are in the table is unacceptable. Enough said.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:33

Maybe the players really missed a bit of vocal support today…?

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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:33

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Dumpster, Sun 26 Dec 17:29

Spineless performance. Sums it up accurately in my view. Players and management team need to take a hard look at themselves as that was brutal to watch. Losing 3-0 at home to a P/T side irrespective of where they are in the table is unacceptable. Enough said.


Yes I agree. If I was a FT footballer I would be embarrassed to lose to PT team away from home never mind a 3-0 drubbing at home. I think the direction we have been going this season is towards relegation. Yogi will have a tough job to keep us up this season.

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Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:35

Grim stuff again. We kept possession ok but almost all of it was slow and backwards. Had we taken one of a few rare but quite good chances (Wighton first half, Todd first half and McCann with about 10 minutes left) then you would have hoped it would have been closer.

OFW - had no chance with the goals, didn`t make any clear errors.

Comrie & Edwards - I feel sorry for both of them, as too often they are expected to get us moving forward. Both were ok today, Edwards was quite good I felt but his crossing was poor, as was Comrie`s.

Breen & Connolly - Both struggled.

Dorrans & Allan - Dorrans was quite good first half, but second half was back to just playing the ball to both centre backs. Allan always looks to get on the ball, but is too slow to pass or even move forward with it, helped create the first goal by needlessly dribbling backwards.

Dow - The best I have seen from him in a while, but had little to work with, ended up having to drop far too deep to get on the ball.

Todd - Not a right winger/midfielder, the one good run apart, the game totally passed him by.

Wighton - Occasional flashes of quality but too often to slow in possession, never wins a physical battle.

McCann - won a few battles but to little effect

O`Hara & Kennedy - O`Hara looked a bit sharper today, dropped into space quite effectively and is a threat in behind. Kennedy was poor, strangely on the few occasions he had the chance to run at the full back he didn`t.

It is certainly fair to ask a few questions of Hughes already:
Pybus would at least offer some more running than Allan.
The defence looks fine and then Gaspuitus gets dropped - you know Nouble is going to be a physical handful for Breen!
Kennedy a goal and an assist and then out the team - surely offers more than Todd on right?

Arbroath and other teams are happy to have us have the ball and watch Dorrans and Allan orchestrate passes back to the centre backs. Hughes obviously needs some time and the chance to get a few of his own players in, but he also needs to get more out of what he has got in the meantime.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:36

Arbroath wouldn`t be top of the league if we were the only full-time side losing to them. They are a disciplined, well-coached team brimming with confidence regardless of their status.

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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:37

The bottom line is we lost 3-0.
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:54

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1985Par, Sun 26 Dec 17:14

Hughes can only work with the squad he inherited. Is he getting more out of them than the previous manager though? No. He isn’t.


^^^ He seemed to have won two games more than the previous manager.

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Topic Originator: Dumpster  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 17:57

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wee eck, Sun 26 Dec 17:36

Arbroath wouldn`t be top of the league if we were the only full-time side losing to them. They are a disciplined, well-coached team brimming with confidence regardless of their status.


Nevertheless, an unacceptable performance. If they have the winning recipe, why don`t we? We don`t match teams for effort, which should be bare minimum.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 18:07

I don`t see a lack of effort or commitment. Just ability

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 18:11

If it were just a matter of effort it would be relatively easy to fix.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 18:13

I remember being a bit shellshocked after they beat us 3-0 at EEP earlier in the season and thinking that Nouble probably had the game of his life cause he couldn`t be playing at championship level if he was normally that good.
Then that happens again today. It`s demoralising. Especially because we did a lot of things well against Ayr and just lapsed back to old ways again. As for Nouble, I can`t recall seeing a lad of his size have an engine that gets him round the park like that for 90 mins. He was class.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 18:23

If an arbroath player has a stinker you can guarantee dick will put a rocket up him and he might be dropped if he doesn’t respond. The players all fight for each other.

With hughes so far he’s picking the same players regardless of performance and I would go as far to say despite performances. For me is he putting our best team out? No he isn’t.

I think it’s fair to say todorov, wighton, o’hara and pybus won’t offer us anything else under hughes as they are getting so little game time all the while watching others who are clearly not good enough get a game week in week out and it’s clear they won’t start unless there’s an injury and he’s forced to play them.

Kennedy produces his only performance of note and he’s immediately dropped.

If he thinks McCann and Todd will come good with a run of games why isn’t that the same for some of the players who have at least produced it in the past?

There was a lot of hope when yogi came but it’s all tamely fizzling out, realistically we’re probably looking at 3 players in max in Jan and I’m not convinced that’s going to be even close to enough unless he can start getting something from the more experienced members of the squad who are warming the bench. We have players on the bench who know they have zero chance of coming on regardless.



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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 18:24

Still; beaten by a PT football club. In fact a drubbing at home. I think its become the norm and we are desensitised to it. You can`t keep looking at the positive as it masks the negative where the issues lay. Carry on for the rest of the season like this and we are going down.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 18:31

I think we need at least 4 new starts for this team in January?

Hardly anybody capable of playing through balls from midfield.

Breen’s own goal gift meant Arbroath didn’t have to force the issue. When out of possession they got into two banks of four and waited for the Pars to give the ball away

Second goal effectively finished the game. Only complacency was going to get us back into the game.

Nouble completely dominated Breen.

The biggest disappointment was nobody put in any sort of crunching tackles. We stood off them far too often.

Schooled today. Not sure some Arbroath players will need to wash their strips ?




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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 18:40

Breen and Todd are nowhere near good enough for this level. Saying that, the whole squad bar Dom Thomas is pretty much rank.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 18:42

`Kennedy produces his only performance of note and he’s immediately dropped.`

He wasn`t dropped. He hadn`t trained until last Friday because of food poisoning so wasn`t fit enough to start. On the back of the improved performance at Killie the manager obviously decided last week`s team deserved another chance. Let`s try and get our facts right before we have a go.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 18:53

So if your Kennedy how do you get back in the team if previous good performance doesn’t count?

Couple of drubbings and you might get thrown in again?

Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 18:56

For me The team Yogi picked today was not the best team to compete with Arbroath many times it was like men against boys we were brushed off the ball far too easily !, Breen hasn`t set the heather alight since he came in either , I do not think Nouble would have pushed Vytas around so easily and I didn`t see Gaspuitas getting exposed much by teams as stated by Yogi !
these results at present will be the norm just now as this team has no guile or backbone same story every week we are gifting goals to teams by individual unforced errors , Yogi needs to tell the players its a training game because he seems to think they do alright in a training session , saying that I do not know what he can tell that lot as they are 2nd division players playing in a league out of their depth , I absolutely hate meeting my friends who support Raith but I am honest enough to agree we are where we are because we are crap just now
here`s hoping for a new midfield and more come the January window ,

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 18:58

He came on as a sub today didn`t he?

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 19:09

"The biggest disappointment was nobody put in any sort of crunching tackles. We stood off them far too often."

I agree. The old-style advice is IMO still relevant, that before you can play your own game you have to win your personal battles with your direct opponent.

Possibly it`s part of the modern game to aim to intercept a pass rather than tackling the player to try to win the ball, but the Pars players just seemed to be physically dominated by Arbroath, and there was no conviction that they would even win any 50:50 balls.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: SeasonedPar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 19:10

Truly garbage. I can take a defeat, but expect to see players fighting to win the ball, pressing opponents, and playing in the opposition half. Not playing safe passes in our half, hardly threatening their back line. I expected this at least from a John Hughes side.

We’re so short of confidence and quality, the manager has a major job recruiting next month (if he gets the budget and can move at least 6 players on).

God knows what some supporters would’ve said if they’d been in there today and what the atmosphere would’ve been.

We are the Pars. This is totally unacceptable.

Frustrated and totally disillusioned.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 19:10

The game was over and the team already had heads down, he got 30 minutes in which unsurprisingly he showed very little.

If he starts next week fine but the point I’m making is players are not being picked on form or ability, they appear to be being picked based on hughes trying to get the more experienced higher earners out the door if they want to play fitba.

Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 19:13

I`m like Hudza, Breen and Todd are out of their depth, they should be getting time in a reserve team but sadly that can`t happen. Why oh why can a young laddie be picked instead a full international centre back, if Vitas had been playing the score today might have been only 0 - 1. Using his height Vitas might have scored an equaliser. Todd is not as good a player as Pybus, he might get better but he is not there yet. Hopefully Yogi can bring in players which are better not more of the same.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 19:19

"if Vitas had been playing the score today might have been only 0 - 1."

"I do not think Nouble would have pushed Vytas around so easily and I didn`t see Gaspuitas getting exposed much by teams as stated by Yogi !"

Gaspuitis played against him in the 2 previous league games and didnt do any better. the second part that is not what he meant.

a shocker all round, the only positive from that is it was only 3 but what do you do now going into Wednesday assuming it is on? far too many problems and too little answers. one of those answers people are hoping for is January signings when we get there but the amount and quality i highly doubt will be there, its going to be a very long second half of the season.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 19:21

Probably about as bad a Pars `experience` as there`s ever been - the stuff I`ve been on about all week and having no fans in the ground, then a shambles of a display on the park. Anyone who didn`t see the Hamilton game might be surprised to hear that we were actually worse that day than we were today, but I think we were.

I feel sorry for the two who have come in to play in midfield. Both are probably good enough to play the odd game here and there when needed, but it`s mad that we`ve started to rely on them as regular starters. I hope they improve in time, but neither looks to be at a level yet whereby they should be regular starters in this division. It`s unfair to expect them to do that, and it`s especially unfair to expect them to do that in a team struggling so badly. The worst aspect of Peter Grant`s management was continuing to play Ross Graham and destroying him, when he obviously needed to be taken out of the team. This is going a similar way with Hughes and those two.

Frustrating all round, and the difference between Arbroath today with a one goal lead, and us at Gayfield with 2-0 then 2-1 leads, was massive. That day, we were never in control at any point while Arbroath were in complete control today as soon as they went ahead. This might well be one where someone will watch the highlights and think we were a bit unlucky, but you`d have to see the full game to see how well they did to stop us having a genuine spell of pressure. The key to the result was that Arbroath were very comfortable without the ball.

And, as rotten as it was, I`d still far rather have watched it from in the ground.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: k76  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 20:50

We need a shut down for a few weeks, get Dom fit and bring in actual football players.

Inverness game must be doubtful but fear the worst if the game goes ahead against Raith.

Our current squad isn’t good enough to to be top of league 2.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 20:55

Some good acknowledgements from Yogi in his Courier interview. The guys need to get playing as a team.

For what it`s worth, I think these guys can play but they`re not playing to each others strengths. We could`ve beaten Killie last week and I think we`ll beat ICT if the game goes ahead. We`re missing the spark of the likes of Thomas but there are others capable in that team.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: k76  
Date:   Sun 26 Dec 21:06

Jake,

I like your optimism, but don’t see where the spark will come from.

We are where we are due to the limitations of our squad, the league position doesn’t lie.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Mon 27 Dec 10:53

Ian Campbell summed it up well in his post match interview. Get a core nucleus, set up right, do the basics right, work hard, play for each other, and teams will need to be damn good to take points off you. Arbroath have got those basics nailed, we need to follow their example.
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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Mon 27 Dec 13:29

Jake I think your confusing good players just struggling for form with poor players playing at about their level.

This team wouldn’t even be top 4 in league 1.

Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Mon 27 Dec 20:20

Stayed away from the site because that game was awful. Half the game is about stopping the other team scoring, we are now conceding goals so early that it is nearly expected.
But when you are fighting against relegation you expect your defenders , if they care, to do anything to prevent another goal. I have a major problem with defenders turning their backs on the ball. When we have 2 players turning their backs on a shot that goes in then I would query their commitment. Two down and this team are finished.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Tue 28 Dec 15:26

Too many players are happy to play a safe ball rather than play it forward or take a man on.

This is quite an interesting comment.

Firstly, I think it is noticeable the extent to which we have tried to play it out from the back this season – which has meant lots of passing along the back four. I suspect this is coming from the coaching staff, who may have the view that we need to keep possession and pass our way up the field.

To digress, and pure speculation on my part (not least because I never watch Champions League) but I wonder how many modern coaches come out from completing their “badges” and have views on how the game should be played – that traditional ways are old fashioned, and that modern ways are far superior. They impress boards of directors with their beliefs that if they can only get their squad playing the modern way (and they will point to other successful teams that play the chosen way) then they will be successful. The problem may be that the players at their disposal are unable or unwilling to adapt.

The second point is that the aspect of play identified by wee eck is, IMO, a feature of a side lacking confidence. A confident side will play without thinking, and they will take risks – full backs will bomb forward, players will make runs, players will take players on, they will make quick passes, try shots and so on. Teams lacking in confidence will think negatively – they will play the safe ball rather than get caught in possession, or out of position. They will make wrong choices.

You can see examples of this in other sports as well as football. To get out of the rut requires some sort of confidence trick – a combination of a new manager or new tactics, or new players. I can imagine players are playing great in training, but once it’s for real, the self-doubts will emerge, especially if you gift an early goal.

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 Re: Pars V Arbroath Match Thread
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 28 Dec 16:03

One of the problems is that team-mates don`t give the man on the ball enough options and play can become very pedestrian and predictable. That can be a lack of confidence too and hopefully someone like Lawless can change that.

I think I`m right in saying that, despite our woeful record this season, Arbroath are the only team we haven`t taken at least a point from and, let`s face it, we haven`t got close to doing it in the three games we`ve played against them. We seem to have particular difficulty in dealing with their combination of good organisation and physicality.

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