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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Tue 10 May 15:20
Will we as fans be treated like mushrooms again or will the people running the club think about the fans. And keep us in the loop.
( Mushrooms are kept in the dark and fed with sh#te)đ
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Tue 10 May 15:52
What are you thinking should happen? Fans lie at all clubs are last to find out anything, hasnât changed and rightly never will.
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Tue 10 May 16:07
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dafc, Tue 10 May 15:52
What are you thinking should happen? Fans lie at all clubs are last to find out anything, hasnât changed and rightly never will.
Ovb fans are the last to know, but it`s been three full day and nothing has been put out to appease the fans after an emotional weekend.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Tue 10 May 16:14
Decisions take time and can`t be rushed into but we will be informed about what we need to know when the time is right
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 10 May 16:17
Quote:
kba, Tue 10 May 16:07
Quote:
dafc, Tue 10 May 15:52
What are you thinking should happen? Fans lie at all clubs are last to find out anything, hasnât changed and rightly never will.
Ovb fans are the last to know, but it`s been three full day and nothing has been put out to appease the fans after an emotional weekend.
Your argument doesnât add up. You acknowledge itâs right that fans are the last to know, but are complaining that they havenât announced anything, presumably because theyâre following due process?
If youâd been sacked, would you want your friends/family to find out online, before youâd had a chance to agree a compensation package? Or, if we assume he hasnât been sacked, we have to assume that a thorough review of our operations is taking place. In which case, why bother announcing anything until thereâs actually something to announce? Itâs pretty clear from here and other forums that fans are still displaying raw emotion, so I canât imagine a statement saying âcalm downâ would be well received.
Would a statement saying âWe are in the process of reviewing the season and identifying the strategy going forward. We will release a statement in due courseâ be enough, or would you complain about that too? Because Iâd imagine thatâs about all they could say right now. They arenât intentionally withholding information from the fans. Theyâre just following the correct processes.
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Tue 10 May 16:18
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Tue 10 May 16:14
Decisions take time and can`t be rushed into but we will be informed about what we need to know when the time is right
Hopefully something soon.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 10 May 16:27
The board could have easily predetermined that if we go down we will doâŠ..
Clearly, even the Rovers managed this because they announced Hughes was sacked 15 mins after the full time whistle of the playoff game when he got them relegated.
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Tue 10 May 16:34
Quote:
par-91, Tue 10 May 16:17
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kba, Tue 10 May 16:07
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dafc, Tue 10 May 15:52
What are you thinking should happen? Fans lie at all clubs are last to find out anything, hasnât changed and rightly never will.
Ovb fans are the last to know, but it`s been three full day and nothing has been put out to appease the fans after an emotional weekend.
Your argument doesnât add up. You acknowledge itâs right that fans are the last to know, but are complaining that they havenât announced anything, presumably because theyâre following due process?
If youâd been sacked, would you want your friends/family to find out online, before youâd had a chance to agree a compensation package? Or, if we assume he hasnât been sacked, we have to assume that a thorough review of our operations is taking place. In which case, why bother announcing anything until thereâs actually something to announce? Itâs pretty clear from here and other forums that fans are still displaying raw emotion, so I canât imagine a statement saying âcalm downâ would be well received.
Would a statement saying âWe are in the process of reviewing the season and identifying the strategy going forward. We will release a statement in due courseâ be enough, or would you complain about that too? Because Iâd imagine thatâs about all they could say right now. They arenât intentionally withholding information from the fans. Theyâre just following the correct processes.
Did they not inform us within a day when it came to PG?.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Tue 10 May 16:37
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 10 May 16:27
The board could have easily predetermined that if we go down we will doâŠ..
Clearly, even the Rovers managed this because they announced Hughes was sacked 15 mins after the full time whistle of the playoff game when he got them relegated.
They didnât as he wasnât under contract. His deal was short term only.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Tue 10 May 16:51
do you moan at asda for not keeping you across staffing changes etc and them treating you like a mushroom?
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Topic Originator: kba
Date: Tue 10 May 16:55
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Tue 10 May 16:51
do you moan at asda for not keeping you across staffing changes etc and them treating you like a mushroom?
Pathetic reply.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 10 May 17:06
Honestly it`s best just trying to enjoy life and the welcome relief of the close season. Unless you`re part of the decision making process then what will be will be.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 10 May 17:15
I demand a...BOARD STATEMENT!
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Topic Originator: dover par
Date: Tue 10 May 17:36
Donât hold your breath,nothing has been decided apart from two directors leaving.
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Tue 10 May 17:37
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 10 May 16:27
The board could have easily predetermined that if we go down we will doâŠ..
Clearly, even the Rovers managed this because they announced Hughes was sacked 15 mins after the full time whistle of the playoff game when he got them relegated.
That would be too much like common sense for our board.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Tue 10 May 18:41
It is a pity that the new CEO or what he is called couldn`t have sacked him by tannoy immediately after the final whistle.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Tue 10 May 19:04
Quote:
Never10yairds, Tue 10 May 16:27
The board could have easily predetermined that if we go down we will doâŠ..
Clearly, even the Rovers managed this because they announced Hughes was sacked 15 mins after the full time whistle of the playoff game when he got them relegated.
Of course the Rovers should be held up as world renowned experts when it comes to decision making đ±
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Topic Originator: PostmanPar
Date: Tue 10 May 20:24
A part of me thinks weâll just go with Hughes hence no statement, another part of me is hopeful that the reason for no statement is because we are waiting for Arbroaths season to end and see where they end up. Or is that that just wishful thinking?!
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Tue 10 May 20:26
Quote:
PostmanPar, Tue 10 May 20:24
A part of me thinks weâll just go with Hughes hence no statement, another part of me is hopeful that the reason for no statement is because we are waiting for Arbroaths season to end and see where they end up. Or is that that just wishful thinking?!
Iâd keep John on the precise he tells the fans asap his plans and reasoning behind the season past. Fans forum at EEP as early as next week.
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Topic Originator: Gareth Keenan Investigates
Date: Tue 10 May 21:49
I donât want to hear the plans of a man who hasnât changed his failing football style since he was with Falkirk. Whatâs the point heâs clearly not going to change. Look at what Ross County have done since he left.
Remember in his early interviews how much he praised young Allan saying how he was a player and how he was an example of how he wanted our team to train and play...Then went out and signed Joe Chalmers and Allan didnât get a sniff. The guys a soundbite merchant with no substance.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 10 May 23:17
He won the Cup with ICT and he did what was asked of him at Ross Co otherwise they wouldn`t have had the chance to kick on under Malky Mackay. He blooded a few young players until he was able to bring in experienced ones and found a new role for Matty Todd. We get it - you don`t rate Yogi and think that means you can`t give him credit for anything.
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Topic Originator: Gareth Keenan Investigates
Date: Tue 10 May 23:30
What exactly do you think I should be giving him credit for as a Pars fan? We were within a few points of mid table when he took over and now we have been relegated by a mid table side from League One who barely broke a sweat.
Also the youngsters he âbloodedâ had all played several games under Crawford two years ago and Grant at the start of this season so he doesnât deserve any credit for that, they were established members of the first team squad.
Also if you want the opinion on him from ICT fans you only need to look at the Pars thread on P and B for honest reviews on his squad building ability, he won that cup using another mans team then the wheels fell off when he started adding his own players. Shall we discuss his time at Raith and Livi as well? How about Hibs? I look forward to your reasoned response as to why he should be given any credit from us at all as heâs now set our club back years with this relegation.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 10 May 23:50
His stats since he took over suggest we wouldn`t have been in the relegation play-offs if he`d come last summer. It`s news to me that Allan, Todd and McCann were `established members of the first-team squad` under Crawford. I recall Allan and Todd being out on loan to lower-league clubs most of the time. I don`t put much credibility on what`s posted on P&B. Your response just proves my point; you cherry-pick the points that fit your agenda.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Wed 11 May 06:44
Quote:
Gareth Keenan Investigates, Tue 10 May 23:30
What exactly do you think I should be giving him credit for as a Pars fan? We were within a few points of mid table when he took over and now we have been relegated by a mid table side from League One who barely broke a sweat.
Also the youngsters he âbloodedâ had all played several games under Crawford two years ago and Grant at the start of this season so he doesnât deserve any credit for that, they were established members of the first team squad.
Also if you want the opinion on him from ICT fans you only need to look at the Pars thread on P and B for honest reviews on his squad building ability, he won that cup using another mans team then the wheels fell off when he started adding his own players. Shall we discuss his time at Raith and Livi as well? How about Hibs? I look forward to your reasoned response as to why he should be given any credit from us at all as heâs now set our club back years with this relegation.
Few points of mid table? Why change PG then if we were so close?
We hadnât won a game and were miles off it. His stats since he arrived able weâd be close to the play-offs at the right end, add the ICT result where he was manager and the last game the players chimed weâd be 4th. Yes the play offs were a disaster but there is a butâŠ.
Iâm not his biggest fan but his tenure couldnât have been easy with what he had to contend with either. Players under performing, confidence shot, 1 January window (Donaldson, Goalie, Lawless at times, even Ambrose) all worked, the 3 that didnât were Chalmers and Polworth. Not the worst window weâve ever had.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 11 May 08:44
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 10 May 23:50
His stats since he took over suggest we wouldn`t have been in the relegation play-offs if he`d come last summer.
Not really. Hughes being here wouldnât have prevented Raith from having that strong start that left them well out of our reach, would it?
We finished the season further from safety than we were when Hughes arrived.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 11 May 09:13
Quote:
par-91, Wed 11 May 08:44
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wee eck, Tue 10 May 23:50
His stats since he took over suggest we wouldn`t have been in the relegation play-offs if he`d come last summer.
Not really. Hughes being here wouldnât have prevented Raith from having that strong start that left them well out of our reach, would it?
We finished the season further from safety than we were when Hughes arrived.
If Grant had stayed we would have been automatically relegated long before the end of the season.
Thatâs not a defence of Hughesâs, just an observation.
Post Edited (Wed 11 May 09:14)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 11 May 09:21
I`m baffled as to why Raith`s strong start has any relevance to JH`s performance as our manager.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 11 May 09:54
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wee eck, Wed 11 May 09:21
I`m baffled as to why Raith`s strong start has any relevance to JH`s performance as our manager.
Your argument was that the stats since Hughes joined suggested that we would have been safe if he had been here from the summer. The only 2 teams with fewer points than us in Hughesâ time here were Raith and QoS. Raith had a fantastic start to the season and that wouldnât have changed just because Hughes was here. Therefore, itâs unlikely we would have finished above them if Hughes had been here from the start.
The other 7 teams who finished above us this season all had better records than us whilst Hughes was here as well. So I canât see what it is that shows we would have been safe, if heâd been here from the summer?
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 11 May 10:02
Quote:
veteraneastender, Wed 11 May 09:13
Quote:
par-91, Wed 11 May 08:44
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wee eck, Tue 10 May 23:50
His stats since he took over suggest we wouldn`t have been in the relegation play-offs if he`d come last summer.
Not really. Hughes being here wouldnât have prevented Raith from having that strong start that left them well out of our reach, would it?
We finished the season further from safety than we were when Hughes arrived.
If Grant had stayed we would have been automatically relegated long before the end of the season.
Thatâs not a defence of Hughesâs, just an observation.
Iâm not trying to say otherwise, nobody else even mentioned Grant, unless Iâve missed something? Iâve never said that Grant should have got more time, or that he was a good appointment. Quite the opposite actually, I was getting criticised on here for being so negative about Grant during his time here.
Hughes is better than Grant, thereâs no doubt about that. But that absolutely cannot be used as the measure of a good manager.
If he stays, I genuinely hope Hughes proves me wrong. But I havenât seen anything that suggests to me that he is the man to turn this club around. In Hughesâ defence, he averaged 1.14 ppg and in Crawfordâs first half season, he averaged 1.06 and we only got better from there. Iâll be disappointed if we keep him in charge, but Iâm willing to be proven wrong and will support the club regardless.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 11 May 10:19
So you`re extrapolating Hughes` record for the full season based on his results for the part of the season he was here but for Raith you`re not doing that. You`re using their actual results for the whole season rather than extrapolating them from the latter part of the season when they were poor. If Hughes had been in charge for the full season he might have improved on Grant`s two draws against Raith which would have reduced their points total. Extrapolating every team`s performance based on the period when Hughes was manager gives a fairer comparison I think.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 11 May 11:15
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 11 May 10:19
So you`re extrapolating Hughes` record for the full season based on his results for the part of the season he was here but for Raith you`re not doing that. You`re using their actual results for the whole season rather than extrapolating them from the latter part of the season when they were poor. If Hughes had been in charge for the full season he might have improved on Grant`s two draws against Raith which would have reduced their points total. Extrapolating every team`s performance based on the period when Hughes was manager gives a fairer comparison I think.
Raith finished 15 points above us, itâs definitely a long shot to claim weâd have finished above them if Hughes had been in charge for the full season. The 2 draws becoming wins doesnât make a 15 point difference. Hughes managed 25 points from 22 games, by the time he arrived, Raith already had 26 points from their first 14. Youâre definitely clutching at straws to say that stats show weâd have finished above them if he was here from the summer.
Thereâs no way of knowing where weâd be if heâd been here from the summer. We may have been safe, Iâm not saying that weâd definitely be in the same position we are now. For what itâs worth, I think we probably would be safe. But choosing to ignore the fact that Raith had more points after 14 games, than Hughes managed in his 22 games, to suggest that the table over the last 22 games showed heâd have kept us up definitely feels like youâre cherry picking stats. Hughes almost certainly isnât the reason they performed poorly over the last 22 games and Grant almost certainly isnât the reason Raith played well for their first 14. I think itâs more fair to assume that, regardless of who we had in charge, other teams would perform more or less the same as they actually did.
In my opinion, a more meaningful measure would be looking Hughes average of 1.14ppg, which would have resulted in 41 points over a 36 game season, that would have gotten us 7th, so itâs not ridiculous to argue that thereâs a good chance he could have kept us up if he had the full season. Thatâs definitely something that could be used in defence of Hughes. Instead you seem to be trying to argue that weâd have finished above Raith, despite their start to the season, which certainly wouldnât have changed that drastically.
Iâm honestly not here to argue/pick fights with anyone. This was just intended to be a discussion and point out that, in my opinion, you canât really ignore Raithâs start to the season and just use the stats from when Hughes was appointed, as if other teamsâ performances before then didnât count.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Wed 11 May 11:18
Quote:
par-91, Wed 11 May 11:15
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 11 May 10:19
So you`re extrapolating Hughes` record for the full season based on his results for the part of the season he was here but for Raith you`re not doing that. You`re using their actual results for the whole season rather than extrapolating them from the latter part of the season when they were poor. If Hughes had been in charge for the full season he might have improved on Grant`s two draws against Raith which would have reduced their points total. Extrapolating every team`s performance based on the period when Hughes was manager gives a fairer comparison I think.
Raith finished 15 points above us, itâs definitely a long shot to claim weâd have finished above them if Hughes had been in charge for the full season. The 2 draws becoming wins doesnât make a 15 point difference. Hughes managed 25 points from 22 games, by the time he arrived, Raith already had 26 points from their first 14. Youâre definitely clutching at straws to say that stats show weâd have finished above them if he was here from the summer.
Thereâs no way of knowing where weâd be if heâd been here from the summer. We may have been safe, Iâm not saying that weâd definitely be in the same position we are now. For what itâs worth, I think we probably would be safe. But choosing to ignore the fact that Raith had more points after 14 games, than Hughes managed in his 22 games, to suggest that the table over the last 22 games showed heâd have kept us up definitely feels like youâre cherry picking stats. Hughes almost certainly isnât the reason they performed poorly over the last 22 games and Grant almost certainly isnât the reason Raith played well for their first 14. I think itâs more fair to assume that, regardless of who we had in charge, other teams would perform more or less the same as they actually did.
In my opinion, a more meaningful measure would be looking Hughes average of 1.14ppg, which would have resulted in 41 points over a 36 game season, that would have gotten us 7th, so itâs not ridiculous to argue that thereâs a good chance he could have kept us up if he had the full season. Thatâs definitely something that could be used in defence of Hughes. Instead you seem to be trying to argue that weâd have finished above Raith, despite their start to the season, which certainly wouldnât have changed that drastically.
Iâm honestly not here to argue/pick fights with anyone. This was just intended to be a discussion and point out that, in my opinion, you canât really ignore Raithâs start to the season and just use the stats from when Hughes was appointed, as if other teamsâ performances before then didnât count.
Add the ICT gane which he was involved in and the last game that we would likely have won if our players hadnât given up at Ht after the Ayr score then his record would be better again
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Wed 11 May 11:28
"Iâd keep John on the precise he tells the fans asap his plans and reasoning behind the season past. Fans forum at EEP as early as next week."
meant to be a meeting at some point after the AGM which is next Thursday, whether that still happens remains to be seen of course.
there is nothing Hughes can say or do that will get folk back onside so to speak and he is probably in a worse situation now than Grant was when he got the sack.
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Topic Originator: dover par
Date: Wed 11 May 12:30
Smoke signals over EP
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 11 May 12:32
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Wed 11 May 11:18
Add the ICT gane which he was involved in and the last game that we would likely have won if our players hadnât given up at Ht after the Ayr score then his record would be better again
Iâll stick with games he was manager for and also stick with actual results, rather than trying to change history.
Been through this before, Shields and Whittaker prepared the team, selected the team, gave instructions from the dugout and did their media duties as the management team for the Inverness game. Hughes was in the stand, as he was not the manager that day. So that doesnât count towards his record.
The QoS game comment, that Iâve seen you make a few times now, is just wrong. We lost and thatâs that. You canât rewrite history because you believe we would have won. We didnât, we lost and it will go down in the records/stats as a loss.
If you rewrote history and added wins to Grantâs record, then he would look better too. Same with literally any manager.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Wed 11 May 12:38
Quote:
par-91, Wed 11 May 12:32
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JamesAndrew74, Wed 11 May 11:18
Add the ICT gane which he was involved in and the last game that we would likely have won if our players hadnât given up at Ht after the Ayr score then his record would be better again
Iâll stick with games he was manager for and also stick with actual results, rather than trying to change history.
Been through this before, Shields and Whittaker prepared the team, selected the team, gave instructions from the dugout and did their media duties as the management team for the Inverness game. Hughes was in the stand, as he was not the manager that day. So that doesnât count towards his record.
The QoS game comment, that Iâve seen you make a few times now, is just wrong. We lost and thatâs that. You canât rewrite history because you believe we would have won. We didnât, we lost and it will go down in the records/stats as a loss.
If you rewrote history and added wins to Grantâs record, then he would look better too. Same with literally any manager.
Yet he was credited with the ICT result as he was formally our manager. He was in the dressing room before during and after the game and changed it at half time according to Shields.
Iâd stick with the formal BBC stats which show this as part of JH tenure.
Most sensible fans could see the players chucked the QOTS second half but even excluding that his record isnât bad. Compare it to Raith, Hamilton, Morton, Ayr, QOTS and it stacks up.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 11 May 12:57
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JamesAndrew74, Wed 11 May 12:38
Iâd stick with the formal BBC stats which show this as part of JH tenure.
âAs new manager John Hughes watched on before officially taking charge on Mondayâ
Taken from the BBC report on the Inverness game. So are you believing them or not?
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Wed 11 May 13:05
Quote:
par-91, Wed 11 May 12:57
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Wed 11 May 12:38
Iâd stick with the formal BBC stats which show this as part of JH tenure.
âAs new manager John Hughes watched on before officially taking charge on Mondayâ
Taken from the BBC report on the Inverness game. So are you believing them or not?
Do the league table from when JH was appointed 12th November and youâll bet the result
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Wed 11 May 13:14
Quote:
par-91, Wed 11 May 11:15
In my opinion, a more meaningful measure would be looking Hughes average of 1.14ppg, which would have resulted in 41 points over a 36 game season, that would have gotten us 7th
Interesting. Does that factor in that if our ppg was higher, other teams ppg would have to be lowered?
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 11 May 13:43
Quote:
fcda, Wed 11 May 13:14
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par-91, Wed 11 May 11:15
In my opinion, a more meaningful measure would be looking Hughes average of 1.14ppg, which would have resulted in 41 points over a 36 game season, that would have gotten us 7th
Interesting. Does that factor in that if our ppg was higher, other teams ppg would have to be lowered?
No, it doesnât. I was aware that some teams would have obviously got fewer points than they ended up with in that scenario. But, as it was, Morton, Ayr and QoS all averaged fewer than 1.14ppg anyway. Hamilton finished with 42 points, so thereâs a chance that we would have finished above them as well, if we averaged 1.14ppg over the course of the season.
Raith in 5th had 50 points (1.39ppg), so we almost certainly wouldnât have been top half. Overall though, I think that highlights that Hughes has been ok. Not mediocre, not great, but heâs been ok.
I think weâd have accepted that sort of performance from a less experienced coach, as long as performances were alright most of the time and we could see what they were trying to do. But I think we hold experienced managers to a different standard. We, as fans, seem less willing to give them time (rightly or wrongly). Hughesâ record at Raith and his history with Falkirk possibly donât help opinions here either.
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Topic Originator: Gareth Keenan Investigates
Date: Wed 11 May 18:19
â I don`t put much credibility on what`s posted on P&B. Your response just proves my point; you cherry-pick the points that fit your agenda.â
I literally stated my opinion on Hughes overall time in management and advised there are other sources of previous teams of his all saying the same as me (and a large majority of the support) which you can see for yourself but you flat out dismiss that. Seems like youâre the one cherry picking what stats and opinions to look at to suit your agenda.
Oh Iâm also still waiting for what we as Pars fans should be giving Hughes credit for? Please enlighten?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 11 May 19:16
You obviously haven`t read my response properly. Of course you`ll get fans of former clubs expressing different opinions on his record. That`s football; people have different opinions. As you`ll see the discussion has moved on a bit since your last contribution.
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Topic Originator: Lambo1885
Date: Thu 12 May 08:05
"Raith in 5th had 50 points (1.39ppg), so we almost certainly wouldnât have been top half. Overall though, I think that highlights that Hughes has been ok. Not mediocre, not great, but heâs been ok."
Is this not further endorsement that Hughes should go? With his ppg record over the season we`d be around 6th, while keeping us up would still be miles away from the target at the start of the season...
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 12 May 09:03
Whilst I am happy for Hughes to go, I don`t think that`s fair. He came in to a pretty dire situation and only had a January window to sort it - when you have a pretty limited pool of players to go for, most of which are only available because they have not been playing.
It`s not realistic to expect anyone to take a side with 7 points after 13 games and have them as pro-rata title contenders.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Thu 12 May 09:44
My reasons for wanting him to go are purely and simply the style of football. It has been utterly soul destroying watching that.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 12 May 09:48
I`m not sure the style he adopted to keep us in the league would necessarily be the style he would have chosen if he`d started with a clean slate.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Thu 12 May 10:52
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 12 May 09:48
I`m not sure the style he adopted to keep us in the league would necessarily be the style he would have chosen if he`d started with a clean slate.
That is perhaps true, however fans of his previous clubs he has managed may tell you that style is his Modus operandi.
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