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 Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: usurpar  
Date:   Tue 7 Jun 21:55

Was that a penalty or did he dive? Was he offside anyway? World class striker… my a##e…!

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Tue 7 Jun 22:27

I was convinced it was offside but the commentator never mentioned that possibility so I assumed I was missing something.

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Tue 7 Jun 22:50

Watched it on DSTV and was astonished the ref gave the pen and just as bemused at the commentators who said it was the right decision….!

He was offside. Defender never touched him and Kane deliberately stubbed his toe into the ground and dived.

How the ref could watch that on replay and think it was a pen is baffling…

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: jojo  
Date:   Tue 7 Jun 22:58

How VAR could award that decision compared to the penalty claimed VAR denied Ukraine against Wales is baffling . On Sunday I heard Martin Tyler say Yarmalenko was denied penalty because of “maybe exaggerating how he went down” . It shouldn’t matter if he goes down while doing a version of Riverdance , if a technical foul has been committed it is still a foul and be awarded penalty .. that is different to blatant diving when not touched or tripping yourself up or initiating contact like Kane did

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 7 Jun 23:11

Kane shot by the mystery sniper again, thought he was offside as well.
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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: KilsythPar  
Date:   Tue 7 Jun 23:22

He was onside as the final pass was by a defender.

C`mon
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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Tue 7 Jun 23:56

I thought the defender`s knee caught his foot. Didn`t look like a dive to me.

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Wed 8 Jun 00:11

I`d just gone to look at the highlights off the back of this thread and I`d agree with that. Looks pretty clear from one of the angles but not so clear from the others.
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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: 1985Par  
Date:   Wed 8 Jun 06:57

There was the slightest tangling of legs which actually caused Kane to kick the back of his own heel and fall over. If I could write the rules myself it would be no foul, no penalty and certainly no booking for the defender. But to suggest Kane cheated is ridiculous.



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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Wed 8 Jun 09:07

I believe VAR was meant to intervene when they deem its a clear and obvious error?
If that`s the case, then they should have let play go on and accepted the ref`s initial judgement?




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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: Bandy  
Date:   Wed 8 Jun 17:50

This is one where I need the offside rule clarified.

He was clearly offside when the initial ball was played. He was still in an offside position when the ball was deflected - however I think offside wasn`t considered in the decision making because the ball came off a German player.

However, I though the rule was more nuanced than that - I thought the German player needed to have played the ball `with a deliberate act`. I didn`t see many angles but it looked to me like the ball just hit the German player because the pass was misplaced. I didn`t see many angles of the deflection so can`t confirm, but the VAR didn`t even seem to bother checking if the German player deliberately played the ball or not - and I don`t know why they didn`t check that.

Kane definitely made the most of it as well. I was surprised it was overturned given how limited the contact was but if we`re in an era where contact = foul, then so be it.

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: fcda  
Date:   Wed 8 Jun 21:35

He`s definitely a cheat but of course, the English commentary teams are blind to that.

I thought he was offside as per Bandy`s description, but it didn`t appear to be considered.

I also thought the replays shown by the VAR were pretty poor. Only after the decision was made did they show a 3rd angle that was a lot more useful and confirmed the dive, in my opinion.
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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Wed 8 Jun 21:51

I thought he was offside too.




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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Thu 9 Jun 13:26

Yes, he`s a cheat and quite a dangerous one although not specifically in this game. The number of free kicks he "wins" by recklessly endangering a defender trying to win a header against him is ridiculous. Someone is going to get seriously injured unless referees start penalising him for his non-competitive way of "challenging" for high balls.

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Thu 9 Jun 13:36

He has history of diving/cheating too.

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Thu 9 Jun 13:42

Jamie Vardy and Raheem Sterling like a dive. Do the media or pundits call them out about it?

Spot the connection?




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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: Lambo1885  
Date:   Thu 9 Jun 14:55

"Yes, he`s a cheat and quite a dangerous one although not specifically in this game. The number of free kicks he "wins" by recklessly endangering a defender trying to win a header against him is ridiculous. Someone is going to get seriously injured unless referees start penalising him for his non-competitive way of "challenging" for high balls."

This^ but he`s the England captain.

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: Bandy  
Date:   Fri 10 Jun 12:59

Yeah - Kane`s even won penalties for that one. Waiting for his opponent to jump before backing in before falling over claiming a foul. What`s incredible is that that foul is often a red in Rugby (I remember Finn Russell going one for doing the same to Dan Biggar)..but in football it`s a foul against Kane.

here`s a little vid.

https://twitter.com/pkshr/status/1335924218689679362?s=20&t=I1etlhIzRmHAVQIGfQ5URQ

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: thebear  
Date:   Sun 12 Jun 07:45

dubious foul, definitely not a oenalty as he was never going to get near the ball
sadly england are very professional and that’s what they do
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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sun 12 Jun 11:22

course he`s a cheat, any number of examples, and not just him.

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Tue 14 Jun 21:29

Tried it again tonight but never got the penalty was totally embarrassing but the commentators didn`t call him out for it.

England getting gubbed and fans on Southgate`s back!

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Tue 14 Jun 21:31

I think Southgate might resign after this.
I don`t think he is a bad manager, but the England fans hate him and it will only get worse between now and the world cup. If the Netflix programme following the players` partners goes ahead then he should run a mile before it is too late.

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 15 Jun 08:18

That was England`s worst home defeat since the Wembley Wizards beat them 5-1 in 1928.

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: Bandy  
Date:   Wed 15 Jun 11:38

I`m not sure Southgate will resign - unless England are planning on hiring a `World Cup specialist` (like Bora Milutinovic was hired by loads of countries back in the day).

By most measures Southgate is England`s most successful manager in the last 50 years - yes things have worked in his favour (talented players, easy draws, home tournaments etc etc), but he`s done well.

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: 1970par  
Date:   Wed 15 Jun 11:47

Harry Kane, known as deckchair legs, soon as you touch him he folds

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 Re: Harry Kane - cheat?
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Wed 15 Jun 11:58

"By most measures Southgate is England`s most successful manager in the last 50 years - yes things have worked in his favour (talented players, easy draws, home tournaments etc etc), but he`s done well."

Indeed. To sack him off the back of a few Nations League games in June would be a bit crazy. He`s equalled their best performance in any World Cup on foreign soil and presided over their best ever Euros. I think he`s enough credit in the bank.

They`ll likely go on to have an OK World Cup in Qatar - probably knocked out in the Quarter Finals and he`ll get hounded out. You can already just about hear the white van men lining up to call him "tactically naive" on Talksport in the aftermath.

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