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 Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: purekozma  
Date:   Thu 16 Jun 17:10

did not know this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52439322



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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: purekozma  
Date:   Thu 16 Jun 17:11

and Neale Cooper

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Thu 16 Jun 19:16

Scotland`s European champions
Robin Rae (Hibernian), Dave Beaumont (Dundee United), John Philliben (Stirling Albion), David Rennie (Leicester City), Brian Rice (Hibernian), Paul McStay (Celtic), Dave Bowman (Hearts), Gary McGinnis (Dundee United), Pat Nevin (Clyde), Gary Mackay (Hearts), Ally Dick (Tottenham). The substitutes for the final were Ian Westwater (Hearts), Billy Livingstone (Wolves) and Sammy McGivern (Kilmarnock). Jim Dobbin missed the game through injury and Celtic team-mate Jim McInally was suspended.

McInally never learnt his lesson both as a player and manager!

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 16 Jun 20:49

I heard a preview of this programme on the radio but there was a mystery as to whether there was any surviving footage of the tournament.

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Thu 16 Jun 21:56

Some decent players in that squad. Jim Dobbin was from Dunfermline. Which player from that bunch played in a UEFA Cup Final, a UEFA Cup Winners Cup Final and a European Supercup, and finished his playing career with his one and only game for Alloa Athletic?
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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Thu 16 Jun 22:05

Aly Dick, who was tipped for great things until got a bad injury.

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Fri 17 Jun 00:58

Wonder what happened to McStay.

Never really hear him mentioned these days, never did any media stuff nor did he do any coaching as far as i am aware. Bit odd in current climate especially for such a talented player (putting it mildly) and a Celtic legend.

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 17 Jun 04:35

Didn`t Paul McStay move to Australia? I think he sometimes comes back to do Celtic-related stuff and I think he had a son who played at a lower level in Scotland.

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 17 Jun 05:33

"Some decent players in that squad. Jim Dobbin was from Dunfermline."

Aye, Jim went to Queen Anne. Cracking player who was in the U-16 QA side which reached the Scottish Cup final. He also played for Scotland in the U-18 WC in Mexico, along with Westwater. They won their group but lost 1-0 to eventual winners, Poland, in the 1/4 finals. Dobbin played alongside Paul McStay in midfield, but Celtic only started him when McStay was injured, so he moved to England where he played for Doncaster, Barnsley, Grimsby and Rotherham.



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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Fri 17 Jun 06:37

Had totally forgotten about this too until I read Pat Nevins auto biography a few months ago where he talks about it obviously, skiving uni and not telling his girlfriend where he was going 🤷🏻‍♂️ Then coming back with a winners medal having scored in the final.
Considering they done this without the Aberdeen contingent was remarkable.

No footage is available unfortunately.

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: Digs  
Date:   Fri 17 Jun 13:44

Wonder what happened to McStay.

Never really hear him mentioned these days, never did any media stuff nor did he do any coaching as far as i am aware. Bit odd in current climate especially for such a talented player (putting it mildly) and a Celtic legend


He moved to Australia and now runs a successful software company.


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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 19 Jun 15:57

Don`t forget this programme`s on the BBC Scotland Channel tonight at 7.15.

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 19 Jun 19:59

Happy ending with footage of the goals in the Final!

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sun 19 Jun 22:08

Topic Originator: wee eck like
Date: Sun 19 Jun 19:59

Happy ending with footage of the goals in the Final!


So there is footage then ?

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 19 Jun 22:23

Yeah, about 40 seconds` worth found in the Czech Republic.

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 20 Jun 08:11

Thoroughly enjoyed that. I think it`ll be on iPlayer for anyone who missed it.



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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Tue 21 Jun 21:02

Saw the last 20 mins - great programme. Couldn`t remember us winning that trophy but maybe because the national team was doing so well.

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: Livingston Par  
Date:   Wed 22 Jun 14:00

I was 10 when this happened and remember my older brother and his friends being really excited about it. This means by about 1988 we will have a great chance at senior level..........ah well lol

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 Re: Ian Westwater & Brian Rice u18 Euro champ 1982
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 22 Jun 14:20

I must admit I couldn`t remember anything about this tournament or us winning it. As it said in the film the war in the Falklands was on and the senior international team was preparing for the World Cup in Spain so maybe that detracted from the interest in it at the time. I do remember some of the players being part of a pretty successful Scotland schoolboys` international team which won at Wembley a few years earlier though.

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