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 Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 13:33

This Europa Conference League Qualifying tie is live on the BBC Scotland Channel and the iplayer tonight. Kick off is 8 pm.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 18:15

Cheers. Be nice to cheer on a Scottish team for once.

Could be a good game

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: purekozma  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 20:17

not missing much in first 15mins both teams very cautious

‘Get up, get out the house, why are you sitting in with your head in your hands? Get up and face people.’
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 20:35

Anyone else thinking there`s something not quite right about this broadcast? I can`t quite work it out but it`s like the commentators aren`t at the game. The sound is very low as well?

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 20:40

The picture isn`t as sharp as it normally is for HD I`d say.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: the saline hill puma  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 21:15

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wee eck, Thu 4 Aug 20:40

The picture isn`t as sharp as it normally is for HD I`d say.


Think the stream is being provided by Dundee utd TV and BBC just adding own commentary
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: purekozma  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 21:52

United were worthy winners, confident play with a magic winning goal, good crowd as well. Will help Scotlands co-efficient

‘Get up, get out the house, why are you sitting in with your head in your hands? Get up and face people.’
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: AlterPar  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 21:55

Not too long ago we were fighting Utd in the playoffs for promotion. Now they are deserving winners against AZ in European competition and we beat Alloa with a cross hahaha football is a funny game!

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 22:11

Listened to the radio - good on them.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 22:22

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the saline hill puma, Thu 4 Aug 21:15

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wee eck, Thu 4 Aug 20:40

The picture isn`t as sharp as it normally is for HD I`d say.


Think the stream is being provided by Dundee utd TV and BBC just adding own commentary


That makes sense

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 23:23

The return leg is also on the BBC. I wonder who`ll be providing the stream for that.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Big T Par  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 23:33

That`s a cracker of a result. Well done Utd 👏👏

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Thu 4 Aug 23:39

Maybe that is the way of the future for smaller European games. The club streams are supplied to the TV stations for a fee. The club benefits financially from that, plus the broadcasting rights, which it shares with the away club. The TV station saves expensive travel, set-up and operational costs and potentially could commentate from the home studio.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Fri 5 Aug 00:01

Great result and performance.

Nobody had a bad game but thought Levett and Middleton were outstanding.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Fri 5 Aug 10:43

Utd will be doing well to qualify. I was impressed by AZ who had the better chances and more possession. Particularly impressed by AZ captain and his partner at centre back. They won everyhing in the air. Apart from the goal I cant recall the AZ keeper making another save. Having said that Utd`s goal was a cracker which came from playing the ball on the deck.

I would love to see Utd going through, I used to go up to Tannadice midweek to watch their European ties back in the 80`s , that was a great Utd side to watch.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: AlterPar  
Date:   Fri 5 Aug 11:32

If AZ were impressive by your standards last night, you must be ecstatic with how the pars have been playing!
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Fri 5 Aug 12:01

looking at the evidence AZ stats first;
Possession 58% (42)
Shots 14 (6)
On Target 4 (2)
Corners 4 (2)

Suggests AZ were in control for much of match.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Fri 5 Aug 12:40

Yes,used to watch their European ties in the 80s.A fabulous, entertaining team.
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Fri 5 Aug 13:33

Quote:

wetherby, Fri 5 Aug 12:01

looking at the evidence AZ stats first;
Possession 58% (42)
Shots 14 (6)
On Target 4 (2)
Corners 4 (2)

Suggests AZ were in control for much of match.


Strange stats. I really didnt think Utd were troubled in the slightest until the last 5 minutes, which they dealt with. They looked the more likely to win at any stage up to the 85th minute.



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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 18:24

Don`t forget the second leg is live on the BBC Scotland Channel tonight with an 8 pm kick-off.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 19:48

Predict 3-1 AZ on the night

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 20:39

You are nearly there wetherby

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 20:40

Pumped
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 20:46

Wow!!
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 20:49

AZ very very impressive, as they were at Tannadice.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 20:54

OH Jings

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: rikaka  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 20:58

Sore one
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 21:01

That is absolutely howling. Another embarrassment for Scottish football in Europe. Not that we can say anything. 5-0 down at half time is rancid though.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 21:14

This is hilarious arguably the worst result for a scottish team in europe ever
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Jacko Par42  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 21:21

If AZ score another I’m sure it’s either the worst or joint worst score line 🙈🙈

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: theparsman1885  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 21:22

dafc-chris1 wrote:

> This is hilarious arguably the worst result for a scottish team
> in europe ever

Other than getting papped out by part time Icelandic fishermen?

Or a second tier team from Sweden who got to the competition due to “fair play”?

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 21:35

Jim McLean will be turning in his grave!

Wonder what Duncan Ferguson is doing?

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 21:37

7-0 poor poor stuff



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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 21:38

The strange thing about this game is that United actually started quite well but then completely lost their defensive discipline. For that seventh goal the scorer was left totally unmarked.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 21:40

Don`t want to be negative but it`s hard to see United getting back into this tie.
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 21:41

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Rusty Shackleford, Thu 11 Aug 21:40

Don`t want to be negative but it`s hard to see United getting back into this tie.


Genuine LOL at that.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 21:56

So what was the worst ( largest defeat) of a Scottish team?

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 21:58

Did Hibs not get pumped at home by Malmö by a similar score?
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 22:01

Glad I went out for a walk when it was 0-1. What an embarrassment. Scottish football rock bottom.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 22:04

Quote:

dafc-chris1, Thu 11 Aug 21:14

This is hilarious arguably the worst result for a scottish team in europe ever


I doubt Rangers fans who travelled to Luxembourg a few seasons ago would agree !!!

Or Celtic’s visit to Gibraltar !!!

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: donj  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 22:17

Far too many stupid mistakes cost them really.After going so far behind they just lost their confidence.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 23:15

They got too cocky.Came back and bit them big style. Always thought , that team would come back big time.
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: bannerpar  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 23:17

United contributed a lot to their own downfall but AZ would be able to take care of any Scottish team with the possible exception of the OF. JMcP and Greg Shields could do worse than use the film of that game for coaching purposes. I would happily watch a team playing like that every week.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 23:42

If AZ are that good, why are they having to qualify to get into the conference league?

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Thu 11 Aug 23:51

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Paralex, Thu 11 Aug 23:42

If AZ are that good, why are they having to qualify to get into the conference league?


Money 💰
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 00:01

Tenruh wrote:

>
Quote:

Paralex, Thu 11 Aug 23:42
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> If AZ are that good, why are they having to qualify to get into
> the conference league?

>
> Money 💰

I would have thought rather, lack of profile of their league in Europe, requiring them to qualify for the group stages of European competition putting them in the same bracket as Scottish teams. So not that great after all.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 06:33

Do folk not know how the Conference League works? Are folk seriously suggesting that losing to a side with recent Chanpions League and Europa League experience from one of the better national leagues in Europe is as embarrassing as losing over two legs to a side from Luxembourg that actually printed in their own programme "we know we have no chance and want to wish Rangers good luck in the next round"? Or losing to teams from Ireland, Iceland or Estonia?

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: rikaka  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 07:04

Yip. Getting scudded 7-0 is a bit embarrassing but going out to AZ is not
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 07:31

Losing 7 zip in any game is a total riddy.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 07:59

United were well in the game up until the 3rd goal, which was a terrible mistake from the keeper. After that, everything AZ tried came off and United were punished just about every time they lost the ball. They`re a good team with fine individual players too, just a bad night against a really good AZ team.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 09:40

Player ratings by sportswriter Brian Marjoribanks average 2.6

Referee gets 6, only bother he had was repetitive stain injury pointing at the centre circle when the goals went in!

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 12:14

Ross Graham and Nicky Clark seem to have fallen out of favour since Jack Ross arrived. That goalie looks dodgy. Is it sensible to churn the squad every season which seems to be the norm now?

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 12:22

7 nil to AZ against a team that beat Barcelona in the Camp Nou? Where has it all gone wrong?


Maybe the AZ fans were setting off fireworks 🎆 at 4am outside Dundee United`s hotel like the PSV fans were doing to Monaco.

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 12:49

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Paralex, Fri 12 Aug 12:22

7 nil to AZ against a team that beat Barcelona in the Camp Nou? Where has it all gone wrong?


Were any of that team even born the last time United won in Barcelona?

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: arpar  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 14:32

I`d rather be in the top league and scudded 7 - 1 on aggregate than be in the 3rd tier.
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 15:03

I`d rather be in the top tier and not scudded 7-1 but so what?

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 17:43

Topic Originator: Parboiled like
Date: Fri 12 Aug 09:40

Player ratings by sportswriter Brian Marjoribanks average 2.6

Referee gets 6, only bother he had was repetitive stain injury pointing at the centre circle when the goals went in!

He shat himself 7 times parboiled ? :-))

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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 19:32

Quote:

parsfan, Fri 12 Aug 12:49

Quote:

Paralex, Fri 12 Aug 12:22

7 nil to AZ against a team that beat Barcelona in the Camp Nou? Where has it all gone wrong?


Were any of that team even born the last time United won in Barcelona?


Certainly not the first time DUFC beat Barca away in Europe.
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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 20:49


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 Re: Dundee Utd v AZ Alkmaar
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 12 Aug 21:53

Oh that brought a good laugh, widtink. Pity that the game didn`t.

You do have to wonder what it is that has happened to Scottish football since the 1980s, when provincial clubs like Aberdeen and United were major players in Europe.

The formation of the premier league? The uneven distribution of revenue? The increasing domination of the Old Firm? The seeming inability of Scottish clubs to keep abreast of modern-day football thinking and tactical techniques?

These humiliations in Europe involving our best teams outside of the Old Firm happen all too regularly. The gulf in tactical ability, basic skills and good old fashioned nouse between AZ and United last night was terrifyingly evident.

As Vladimir Ilich Lenin once asked, what is to be done?

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