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 Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 18:54

Dykes for Adams, otherwise unchanged




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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 19:28

Would have preferred Adams starting tbh

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 20:06

Defence has looked dodgy from the off




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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 20:40

Ireland have us sussed tactically. Not sure who their manager is but he has figured out how Scotland… like… to play and they have nullified us.

Dykes is no better than Andy Smith was. Adams needs to come on and Fraser later.
We need to get in their faces as we are allowing them to bully us.

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: TurinPar  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 20:50

Stephen Kenny is the ROI manager.

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 20:54

Goallllllll
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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 21:04

Night and day compared to the first half.

Hickey has done a hamstring. That’s a blow




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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 21:26

Penalty
Goallllllll
Ryan Christie makes it 2-1

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 21:27

Coolly taken




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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 21:37

Three fabulous points!

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 21:38

Clarke out thought his counter part tactically. Well done lads.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 21:55

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Date: Sat 24 Sep 21:38

Clarke out thought his counter part tactically. Well done lads.

Wish I could agree. Apart from a really good 15 mins at the start of the second half I thought Scotland were second best tonight. A very disjointed performance. Could not believe that we were not leaving at least two back at corners and got caught on the break a couple of times and Ireland should have scored from one of them. 1-2 down then would have been difficult to come back and win from.

But we got the win and I will take that any day of the week.

Let’s hope we can get the point we need on Tuesday.

Start with Adams hopefully.

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 21:59

Best team won, had them sussed from first minute. Let them think they are better than us in the first half and sock it to them in the second.

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 22:00

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Date: Sat 24 Sep 21:59

Best team won, had them sussed from first minute. Let them think they are better than us in the first half and sock it to them in the second.



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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 22:09

We burgled it tonight. But it`s heartening to see us find a way to win, especially after losing the first goal.

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: rikaka  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 22:13

Tight might match. Couple of chances each side and we took ours .
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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 22:33

I was worried about McKenna and Hendry before the Ukraine game but they have both been excellent. Pity about the injuries piling up at full back though. Hopefully Tierney and Hickey are fit for Tuesday.

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 23:22

Typical derby game. Best team won.

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 24 Sep 23:45

Loved being there. Place was rocking.

Thought we stole it to be honest but Clarke has built a character in that side. How many hard luck stories have we had, I`ll take a mildly fortunate win.
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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 08:54

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desparado, Sat 24 Sep 20:40

Ireland have us sussed tactically. Not sure who their manager is but he has figured out how Scotland… like… to play and they have nullified us.

Dykes is no better than Andy Smith was. Adams needs to come on and Fraser later.
We need to get in their faces as we are allowing them to bully us.


Dykes is nowhere near Andy Smith at his peak. Smith would have had shitloads of goals if he`d been called up.

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 09:08

It was a patchy performance, but I thought we were just about worth the win. Ireland were happy to sit in and try and hit on the break with balls over the top or down the channels. To be fair they did that quite well on a few occasions, but their only big chances came from our mistakes, McTominay dawdling on the ball in the lead up to their corner before the opener and then McGregor playing a shocking pass in the second half when we had their box full waiting for a cross. Ireland are an aggressive, well organised team with a bit of pace up front, but otherwise a pretty limited outfit. A team that we really should be dispatching at home.

We passed the ball ok, but at times were a bit indecisive. Christie was excellent, picking up the ball in good spaces and trying (and succeeding) to make things happen, he also puts in a shift defensively. I also thought both the centre backs did well. Otherwise no standouts, that`s the poorest I`ve seen McGregor play. Hopefully Gilmour can get a run of games and some form and be the present as well as the future. Dykes I think did ok, he did win a few good knock downs but none of the attacking midfielders (particularly McGinn) were close enough to benefit. Adams will come back I am sure for Ukraine.

If there is one place we can afford a few injuries it`s fullback! Hopefully we can get one more performance Tuesday!

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 11:22

Harsh for the two Irish centre backs to be on the losing side as i thought they were excellent.

Great comeback for us though, place looked to be absolutely bouncing.

A blow losing Hickey as well, actually think he looks a better defender than Patterson from what i've seen so far.

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 12:34

Disappointing to hear about boos during the Irish anthem and also at James McLean. Honestly, what is it with these people who can`t leave the anti-catholic bigotry at home? Seen a lot of "which team do Celtic support when Scotland play Ireland?" comments too. So pathetic.

Maybe one day we can send Rangers, Celtic and their fans to go and play indefinitely against each other on the moon.
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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 18:56

Is James Maclean not the one that refuses to wear the poppy on his shirt at Rememberance time?

Despite Southern Irish fighting in the wars.
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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 19:14

I thought orange was a strange choice of colour for Ireland`s change strip but of course it features in their flag.

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: SusieQ  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 19:32

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wee eck, Sun 25 Sept 19:14

I thought orange was a strange choice of colour for Ireland`s change strip but of course it features in their flag.


C`mon now - it`s obviously a tribute to their Dutch players 🤔🤪

Fab couple of games for the boys - roll on Tuesday & a chance to win the group & move up / secure a play off place 👏🏼👏🏼


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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 19:45

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wee eck, Sun 25 Sep 19:14

I thought orange was a strange choice of colour for Ireland`s change strip but of course it features in their flag.


Dundee Utd fans say their strip isn`t orange - it`s tangerine. Too subtle a distinction for me.

The ROI flag is green, white and gold, of course, but try as I might, that didn`t look like gold to me, though the BBC appears to have managed to marry the two colours.



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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 19:57

All the sources I can find say the Irish tricolour is green, white and orange, symbolising Catholicism, peace and Protestantism. It`s the flag of the island of Ireland rather than the Republic apparently but I stand to be corrected as I`m no authority.

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 19:59

Tierney, McTominay and McKenna out.

Real problems at centre back




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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 20:10

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GG Riva, Sun 25 Sept 19:45

The ROI flag is green, white and gold, of course, but try as I might, that didn`t look like gold to me, though the BBC appears to have managed to marry the two colours.


The Constitution of Ireland is quite specific:
https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/cons/en/html
"ARTICLE 7
The national flag is the tricolour of green, white and orange."

As wee eck correctly states, the symbolism of the colours is peace (white) between Catholic (green) and Protestant (orange).

But TBH it`s a sad commentary on Ireland that this is even the subject of debate on a thread about a football match!

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 20:49

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wee eck, Sun 25 Sep 19:57

All the sources I can find say the Irish tricolour is green, white and orange, symbolising Catholicism, peace and Protestantism. It`s the flag of the island of Ireland rather than the Republic apparently but I stand to be corrected as I`m no authority.


A bit of wishful thinking from the RoI perspective on that one - the six counties don’t recognise their inclusion in the whole Ireland scenario.
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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Sun 25 Sep 21:38

Depends who you speak to from those 6 counties...

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 26 Sep 07:06

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Stanza, Sun 25 Sep 20:10

Quote:

GG Riva, Sun 25 Sept 19:45

The ROI flag is green, white and gold, of course, but try as I might, that didn`t look like gold to me, though the BBC appears to have managed to marry the two colours.


The Constitution of Ireland is quite specific:
https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/cons/en/html
"ARTICLE 7
The national flag is the tricolour of green, white and orange."

As wee eck correctly states, the symbolism of the colours is peace (white) between Catholic (green) and Protestant (orange).

But TBH it`s a sad commentary on Ireland that this is even the subject of debate on a thread about a football match!


It woz wee eck wot started it!

I stand corrected and deeply ashamed of my ignorance. ☹

I based my post on a song I`ve heard Celtic fans sing at games in which there`s a line that goes;

....."with Hibs in the final and lo and behold,
Old Hampden was covered in green, white and gold."

I`ll away and check the colours of the Italian flag now.

Eta. And tbf, the tricolour flags I've seen at ROI games appear to have a distinct golden yellow colour rather than orange.....



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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Mon 26 Sep 08:07

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LochgellyAlbert, Sun 25 Sep 18:56

Is James Maclean not the one that refuses to wear the poppy on his shirt at Rememberance time?

Despite Southern Irish fighting in the wars.


His position has nothing to do with commemorating either of the World Wars.

Here is an article by BBC listing 5 reasons people don`t wear poppies, which includes quotes from the player you mentioned:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34720464.amp

I haven`t wore a poppy for about 20 years pretty much for most of those reasons (nos: 2, 3 and 5 to be precise)

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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Mon 26 Sep 12:15

The poppy`s symbolism was twisted by Tony Blair`s government as a way to sidestep some of the criticism over the Iraq invasion. Before that it was completely voluntary and there was no criticism in general society of those who made a decision not to wear one.

Football teams never, or very rarely, wore them on their strips and folk on TV either turned up wearing one or they didn`t - it was not relevant to discuss others` views on what was considered a very personal decision.

Personally, I would usually wear one pre Iraq and I even occasionally shook a tin and sold them, but not after: it became meaningless because folk were wearing them out of obligation rather than conviction.

Nobody should know what any football player`s personal views are on this any more than we should know what brand of loo roll they buy because both are entirely irrelevant to the game of football.


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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 26 Sep 13:18

Again, football dragged into politics.
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 Re: Scotland v ROI
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Mon 26 Sep 15:50

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jake89, Mon 26 Sep 13:18

Again, football dragged into politics.


The other way around surely ?
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