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 Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 13:39

Hopefully another 3 points today, I’ll go 3-0 pars

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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: Parsweep  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 13:51

I`ll raise you .
4-0 !!

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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 13:51

Yup, agree 3-0.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 14:02

1 Deniz Mehmet
2 Aaron Comrie
4 Kyle Benedictus (c)
12 Rhys Breen
3 Josh Edwards
6 Kyle Macdonald
8 Joe Chalmers
26 Matthew Todd
11 Chris Mochrie
14 Lewis McCann
10 Nikolay Todorov


Subs:-

5 Chris Hamilton
9 Craig Wighton
15 Sam Fisher
21 Kane Ritchie-Hosler
27 Sam Young
28 Andrew Tod
29 Taylor Sutherland
30 Robbie Mahon
20 Max Little (GK)

Referee: Barry Cook

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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: usurpar  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 14:23

The two new boys straight in on the bench. I would think one or both might get a run out if we are comfortable late on.



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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 14:35

Bleedin Peterheid will ye look at their players’ names!

Brown - Jordan Jack and Jason
Strachan - Ryan and Danny

It’s bad enough with oor Tod Todd and Todorov!

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 14:56

No sign of Peter Reid team online anywhere and can hardly make out anything that is said over the tannoy.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 15:10

I am in Tenerife and was speaking to a guy from Dundee who told me his grandson was playing for Peterhead today, on loan from Dundee.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 15:41

These officials are the best panto act I’ve ever seen. It is beyond belief how poor these referees are in this division. That said we have been quite poo.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: Lucho_8  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 15:42

Goal scoring machine as usual so we are.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 15:45

Boring, slow, plodding stuff. Peterhead defending well in numbers and very deep but we need to move the ball more quickly.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 15:46

We`ve to wait for the usual half time kick up the hole lads

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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 15:46

This is a tough watch hopefully the 2nd half will be better
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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 15:49

Looked a harsh booking for Chalmers. Looked like he won the ball fairly, no?

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 15:51

Quote:

Lucho_8, Sat 1 Oct 15:42

Goal scoring machine as usual so we are.


Only the bottom 2 have scored less than us....

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 15:56

Abundance of strikers and none of them are scoring goals regularly. You’d have expected guys like Todorov and Wighton to have a field day in this league. Maybe they just aren’t good enough?

We always start so poorly then get a rocket up the erse at half time. We should be firing on all cylinders straight from the off. The inept AJ even achieved that in League 1 back in 15-16.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:00

I am like others allegedly we have some good strikers at the club
yet 6 attempts at goal and only 1 on target, 6 corners to 0 and over 60% of the play
Hopefully it will be like normal and we play better second half
cannot afford to drop points at home !!

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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:18

Far too slow to move the ball, not brave enough on the ball, and the delivery has been abysmal from wide areas both in open play and from set pieces. Wonder if the new bench fillers will get a chance to change things up?

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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:19

Wighton doesn’t look interested at all. Same old dross.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars v Peterhead
Topic Originator: Lucho_8  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:24

GOAL SCORING MACHINEEEEE
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 1-0 Peterhead
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:32

Scrappy finish but we`ll take it. Surely can`t go through the season grinding away like this though.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 1-0 Peterhead
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:38

Getting the team winning was always the top priority and they`ve done pretty well in that respect...
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 1-0 Peterhead
Topic Originator: BlackLight  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:41


Are you new here, or just suffering from amnesia?

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 1-0 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:41

We definitely need to ship out certain players and have a big refresh...got to get out this league for McPake to do something.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 1-0 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:42

We just need Kelty to score to make it a good Saturday



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 Re: Match thread: Pars 1-0 Peterhead
Topic Originator: DunfyDave  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:44

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Buspasspar, Sat 1 Oct 16:42

We just need Kelty to score to make it a good Saturday



^^^ Kelty just scored 1-0 up

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 1-0 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:44

COYP

We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 1-0 Peterhead
Topic Originator: neilholland999  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:44

And they have!
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-0 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:45

Lottery numbers supplied for a small fee :-)

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-0 Peterhead
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:51

FFS
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-1 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Lucho_8  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:51

OMG HAHAHAHA WE ARE CRAP
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-1 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:52

Bloody Hell !!

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:54

Mcpake`s normally honest interview will be interesting this week.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: BlackLight  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:54


If you lose a 2-0 lead with 6 minutes to go, there`s no one to blame but the manager,

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:54

Words fail me. Dreadful, dreadful dreadful Pars.

As for that referee... OMG.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:55

Incredible! Hope that`s the kick in the nuts we were needin`. Learn - line drawn under - move on.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:56

2 goals up with 3 minutes to play and still don`t win. Absolutely pathetic.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:56

Absolutely hopeless. So many shots on goal yet again but little to show for it. Defence asleep for the first Peterhead goal.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:56

disgrace - results so far have covered far too many poor performances - and I dont blame the manager .



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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:58

Nothing like throwing points away!
Peterhead have 4 attempts at goal 2 on target and score with both
shows how good we really are cannot hang onto a 2 goal lead and see the game out you couldn`t make it up
Even at this level to throw a 2 goal cushion away is pathetic



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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 16:58

Don`t anybody say we`re still top of the league !!!!

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:00

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jake89, Sat 1 Oct 16:56

Absolutely hopeless. So many shots on goal yet again but little to show for it. Defence asleep for the first Peterhead goal.


Lack of experience is going to cost us😓

BCM
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:03

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Gaz3822, Sat 1 Oct 16:58

Don`t anybody say we`re still top of the league !!!!


Top of the league, looking down on the Falkirk.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:05

The way we are dropping points we won`t be there much longer we are dropping points right left and centre
FC Edinburgh only 1 point behind us , Airdrie and Falkirk only 2 points behind and Alloa creeping up on 3 points behind us very tight and to lose 2 goals in the last 3/5 mins is pathetic the players want to think shame of themselves
Lack of experience and no decent players in tells the story



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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:06

I`m jinxing anything I touch at the moment
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:09

londonparsfan you couldn`t jinx our lot they manage that themselves
it`s ok having plenty possession and shots at goal but at the end of the day it is goals that count

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:11

On the bright side - we`ve only won once in five: seven points from fifteen and nobody`s caught us yet, the other teams in this league canny be that good either. And maybe Peterhead are coming into a bit o` form and can take points fae the ither teams.

Todays debacle is just so bonkers I can`t even think about it - it`s like something long past. Next game please.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:14

Anyone who thinks we play good football needs their head looked at, we have been awful for weeks. Poor performances are being covered by the poor league we are in.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:18

I tend to agree with you RMGpar
apart from being awful we have also been very lucky that other teams have not taken their chances against us !
A few of our draws have actually painted over the cracks we are lucky this is a pretty poor league

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:20

Shocking display from an inept team , our three alleged strikers have zero ability and amount of chances we pass up will come back to haunt us

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:23

Looking forward to the post match interview after that. What a mess.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:23

It`s hard to know what to say after that. How we chucked that away, I`ll never know. Throwing the two young lads on just didn`t work. We we`re better keeping the experienced guys on and keeping the back door shut.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:29

Be interesting now to see the reaction at Alloa next Saturday from the team
we could be 2nd in the league depending on the Montrose v Airdrie game on Tuesday night then we can be down to third depending on the FC Edinburgh V Peterhead game on wednesday !
here`s hoping today was a reality check for them

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:30

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Paralex, Sat 01 Oct 17:23

It`s hard to know what to say after that. How we chucked that away, I`ll never know. Throwing the two young lads on just didn`t work. We we`re better keeping the experienced guys on and keeping the back door shut.


100% agree. Brought on winger when 2 up, but he should have just made a defensive sub to shore things up to see the game out
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: NikNakPar  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:30

I`ve nothing to say on the game. Not sure what`s happened there. On another note I don`t know how much more I can take of the officials at this level
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:31

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Paralex, Sat 1 Oct 17:23

It`s hard to know what to say after that. How we chucked that away, I`ll never know. Throwing the two young lads on just didn`t work. We we`re better keeping the experienced guys on and keeping the back door shut.


Exactly. They looked lively and wanted to run with the ball but sometimes you need to just kill a game stone dead.

The most surprising thing about today was we managed to get two goals never mind blow a lead.

Terrible result

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:35

We had the most possession overall but losing that lead was ridiculous. I had typed “we’d better watch our step” after their first goal.

Bringing on our two new players at that time wasn’t the correct decision imo.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:36

Think the subs killed it. Presumably thought that it was all over at 2 nil but I`d have kept Todd on, he`s becoming almost our most important player. Even Wighton coming on, and Todarov staying on whilst removing McCann didn`t look good moves tbh although I appreciate Todarov scored. Letting Falkirk get 2 points closer to us and looking in good form is not good I have to say.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: LEGEND85  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:39

At 2-0 the game should be finished.

First half we are so slow and allow them to settle into the game.

When we get the first goal we should be kicking on and trying to get the second goal and for me we didn`t do that enough is that a hangover form last season that despite being top it`s not a team full of confidence.

We must see out a 2-0 lead
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:41

Today should have been a gimmie. They are one of the worst teams I`ve seen at east end in years. We were shocking today but still didn`t look under any pressure and still managed to blow it. I just can`t figure out how we blew that against such a bad team. We should be embarrassed but I think it shows how much we have ridden our luck this season to be top as we have not performed at all at home this season. We were impressive against Edinburgh City and Queens but every other game there has been room for improvement

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:45

When you sit back and on reflection it was probably a bad decision by McPake to send 2 new guys on with no experience of the way we play .. but hey ho .. hindsight is an exact science .. if we had won 2-0 and not sent them on we would have been wondering why they were not introduced to the fans



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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 17:59

As said, that`s the worst team I`ve seen at East End in a long time, however, we were honking all game and 2-0 flattered us.

Having said that, we should have seen the game out and I don`t think the subs had anything to do with it, just bad defending.

Wighton and Todorov? Dearie me. I`m bringing my boots next time

Thank goodness for Chris Mochrie - the only positive from today



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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: ReturningParsFan  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:04

My first game since we beat Dundee Utd 2-0 in February 2020. I left the ground that day feeling very optimistic about the future. Who knew what was coming. Clearly I didn`t leave with the same feeling today, in fact, despite seeing a few games on TV, I am still astonished that the team is so much worse. A dreadful first half, better second 40 minutes (it really had to be) and a final 5 or so when we conceded a ridiculous first goal and an almost inevitable equaliser. Very hard to see any positives. Mochrie clearly a talent, but not our player. Defence, up to 85 minutes, decent enough for this level. Forwards useless, one and all. Chalmers for me was easily the pick of a poor midfield. And shout out for my MoM Josh Edwards, whose crossing is much improved. Would like to be more positive, but I think McPake has a huge job ahead if is to fully purge the Grant/Hughes legacy.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:06

For me Edwards was our best player.

Mochrie was good in spells but disappeared for large parts of the game.

In hindsight McPake probably wouldn’t have brought the young boy on in the middle of the park but the game looked finished and I understand why he did it.

McCann needs a goal - his miss today was a shocker.

Wighton????

Peterhead very poor - disappointing not to win.

Andy J
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:11

Hindsight is easy but winning when you are not playing well should be a good sign. But we blew it with the subs. 2-0 is never a score to assume victory given we were putting on 2 young boys who had not even trained with the team, I`m told. We sacrificed height when we were struggling to win headers up front, and when they had the chance to pump a ball up into our box I actually feared the worst.
Not convinced it was a free kick to begin with but we still had to defend it.
It`s a lesson and McPake can`t be as naive again.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:18

In the words of my brother “The subs were on for their own sake, not the team”. Purely a managerial decision.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:18

Don`t think blaming the subs is fair. The first sub set up Edwards to cross the ball for the second goal.

The second sub did give the ball away and maybe wasn`t the right for that moment in the game...but the team today could have just as easily chucked it without them on the park
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:29

Same old dross from last season letting the club down. We have rode our luck lately and it run out today. Imagine we will drop a couple places in the next few weeks. Poor transfer policy has not helped. We don’t have enough experienced players…
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: k76  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:36

Manager has to take responsibility for not picking up 3 points.

2-0 up and Peterhead were never in the game at any point, never attacked or created any chances for 87 mins.

Can understand why he brought the new players on as Peterhead had no ambition to score and we were cruising.

Lesson learnt is that no game is won until the 90mins is over.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:37

My god, yes we blew it, but yes we are still top. Disappointing absolutely, over the top criticism a no from me. We will be ok in the long run. I thought the subs were ok, I can only think that the manager thought we were home and hosed when he changed it. 2 set pieces got them the goals… it happens. Not even a quarter though the season still top and in the main playing ok. Disappointed yes, panicking, no chance.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:45

They had two shots on target and scored with them both.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: LEGEND85  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:48

don`t think bringing on Mahon was a mistake he contributed towards the second goal.

I think McPake from listening to the interview has at least watched the same game as the supporters
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Parsweep  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:48

We`re really "not playing ok" .
That was another dreadful performance today , and that has been the norm ,
not the exception .
A really poor league and a pretty poor team topping it .

Bobvo
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:53

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Parsweep, Sat 01 Oct 18:48

We`re really "not playing ok" .
That was another dreadful performance today , and that has been the norm ,
not the exception .
A really poor league and a pretty poor team topping it .


In the main playing ok I think I said.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 18:57

That was a hard watch at times, that first half was awful. Both teams lacking quality but at least we looked like a much bigger more physical team than them. You can see why they are struggling.

McCann offering the same old, plenty running and nothing much else, couldn’t finish his dinner. Toddy slower than a week in the clink and no wingers on the park so we have no ball over the top and very little pace in the team bar some decent runs from mochrie but no final ball was ever on as McCann is generally switched off and toddy too slow. Are we now trying to play McCann as a winger? No Midfielder ever seemed to gamble and make a forward run.

Chalmers again a bit too ponderous on the ball and content to drift through playing keep ball against a side we needed to break down. Todd did okay but we largely bypassed him going forward, McDonald largely invisible. Defence was suspect,, overplaying numerous times and some rash challenges.

We improved in the 2nd with a break of the ball to breen and a good bit of play for toddy to score but always looked a bit disjointed and for a team at the top of the league lacking in confidence and self belief. Going 2-0 up surely settled any nerves but the same old errors crept back in as we fell apart. Keeper flapping when they hit the bar and for the last goal in no man’s land again.

The 2 loans will hopefully add something and I know peterhead set up to suffocate the game but that team isn’t going to win the league, hopefully we can make top 4 though. As mentioned we have rode our luck a fair few times this season and feels like a defeat is coming.

Giving wighton 45 minutes today really makes you question mcpakes judgement, it’s clear to see he’s finished, he could barely move.

Things will be looking up……..now yogi is gone!

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: PARadise  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 19:02

Would’ve kept Chalmers on today, don’t think Todd’s offered much for a while

Would go to the 3 at the back vs Alloa get a midfield of Chalmers Hamilton Mochrie and the two big yins up front
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 19:03

All this stuff about blaming the defeat on the manager making the subs he did is nonsense. Hamilton and Mahon came on when it was 1-0 and Mahon was involved in the build-up to the second goal. KR-H went on when it was 2-1 but any 11 players should have been able to see the game out.

As the manager said in his interview conceding stupid fouls cost us and needless challenges gave a whistle-happy ref a decision to make. The players have to take the blame for bad decision-making and our shooting is atrocious when we get into a goal-scoring position. It was an overall sloppy performance against easily the worst team I`ve seen, certainly in the league at EEP, this season.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 19:04

Cant blame the subs ,Both goals were poor defence
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 19:07

The defence, were totally to blame for both goals.Too much dithering about,instead of just getting rid of the ball.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Ianoappar  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 19:08

Top versus bottom a banana skin and it happened,lacking pace and a decent striker we will struggle.That performance today was woeful can`t see anyone Mochrie excluded to improve us,been riding our luck for weeks.And Wighton ### ### ## ####.
Falkirk best team I`ve seen so far.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 19:13

The equaliser did look a shocker from the keeper, started to come then realised he was getting nowhere near it. The header went in right at the post so he might not have got it anyway, but given how it was headed back across goal I think he`d probably get it quite easily if he`s just standing in his starting position a few yeards off his line.

That was a pretty grim game all round. Whenever we start that slow sutff with no directness to our play, I always feel we`re as likely to lose a goal from a mistake as we are to score ourselves. Second half was a bit better, but we were still struggling for decent chances despite bieng the better side. And we should have managed to see it out. If we`d won 1-0 I`d say that was probably just about deserved given how the game went, but to chuck a two goal lead with 10 mins left was awful. The subs did weaken us defensively at the end as Chalmers had done quite well all round and Todd was fine defensively. Difficult balance for a manager - hold on for the win after giving his two new players some game time and all would be fine, but we didn`t and so inevitably the decision gets questioned.

Not many things to match losing a last minute equaliser or winner for feeling scunnered - perhaps the only thing is losing two late goals including one right at the end. I suppose that`s why I love watching the Pars - the intense feelings that go with these moments (good and bad) and being able to look back later with a laugh. But, oh dear - that really was a reminder of how supporting a team like the Pars can sometimes leave you feeling like you`ve just had a kick in a very painful place.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 19:15

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Berkey, Sat 1 Oct 18:57

That was a hard watch at times, that first half was awful. Both teams lacking quality but at least we looked like a much bigger more physical team than them. You can see why they are struggling.

McCann offering the same old, plenty running and nothing much else, couldn’t finish his dinner. Toddy slower than a week in the clink and no wingers on the park so we have no ball over the top and very little pace in the team bar some decent runs from mochrie but no final ball was ever on as McCann is generally switched off and toddy too slow. Are we now trying to play McCann as a winger? No Midfielder ever seemed to gamble and make a forward run.

Chalmers again a bit too ponderous on the ball and content to drift through playing keep ball against a side we needed to break down. Todd did okay but we largely bypassed him going forward, McDonald largely invisible. Defence was suspect,, overplaying numerous times and some rash challenges.

We improved in the 2nd with a break of the ball to breen and a good bit of play for toddy to score but always looked a bit disjointed and for a team at the top of the league lacking in confidence and self belief. Going 2-0 up surely settled any nerves but the same old errors crept back in as we fell apart. Keeper flapping when they hit the bar and for the last goal in no man’s land again.

The 2 loans will hopefully add something and I know peterhead set up to suffocate the game but that team isn’t going to win the league, hopefully we can make top 4 though. As mentioned we have rode our luck a fair few times this season and feels like a defeat is coming.

Giving wighton 45 minutes today really makes you question mcpakes judgement, it’s clear to see he’s finished, he could barely move.


Can’t disagree with any of that




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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 19:18

Why are we playing Todd in a deep central role where all his best performances have been out wide ?
We have a natural holding midfielder in Hamilton, who is also comfortable with the ball at his feet ?

Answers on a postcard..




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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 20:03

Anyone who thought we’d change from the relegation fodder we were last season, to running away with the league this year, is delusional. Different manager, but almost the same squad, and exactly the same fans. I’d have taken top after 8 games in a heartbeat, even though our form has been inconsistent to say the least. Oh, and whilst McPake made the wrong subs, the 2 new signings showed enough to show they will have potential
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 20:27

Aye cfad but we had that game won today against the bottom of the league. They were wasting time right from the start of the second half because they obviously believed a no score draw was the best they could hope for. When we scored the first goal they were gutted and when the second one went in their heads went down. How we allowed them to scrape a draw out of that is beyond ridiculous.



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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: ReturningParsFan  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 21:01

First sight of Todorov in the flesh today. To be honest, I was probably expecting much more based on his goals return per games started ratio. But, wow, he`s not exactly speedy gonzales and seemed to me to get far too involved with that brute of a No 4. His lack of pace was at its worst when Mochrie put him through 1-on-1 with the keeper at 2-1. (Not a great pass, tbh, a pet hate of mine that so many players these days can`t do the basic `Messi` pass in front of the teammate). I digress, the effort from Todorov was pathetic. Should have been 3-1 and game definitely over!!!
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 21:08

It`s all water doon the lavvy pan noo (wee smile)

cfad`s got it aboot right for me:

ref: Sat 1 Oct 20:03

`Anyone who thought we’d change from the relegation fodder we were last season, to running away with the league this year, is delusional. Different manager ... but I’d have taken top after 8 games in a heartbeat, even though our form has been inconsistent to say the least... and whilst McPake made the wrong subs, the 2 new signings showed... potential.`

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: DrumRoad  
Date:   Sat 1 Oct 21:48

Had a whole screed drafted about that finish today but edited it down a bit, so here goes……………………….


pihs!!

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 05:18

We are an elephant up at tree. Nobody knows how we are there but we all know we won`t be there at the end.

I really feel for mcpake he has been handed players who we were all told will win us the championship they aren`t even good enough for this level. If he gets up promoted with this squad he deserves the keys to the city.

Chalmers probably our best player today. No clue as to why wighton came on wide when we had 2 wingers on the bench.

2 nil completely flattered us and we have only ourselves to blame. We really need to be wiser in these positions as we don`t look good enough to win by comfy margins.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: fergie  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 05:55

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Parfect69, Sat 1 Oct 18:37

My god, yes we blew it, but yes we are still top. Disappointing absolutely, over the top criticism a no from me. We will be ok in the long run. I thought the subs were ok, I can only think that the manager thought we were home and hosed when he changed it. 2 set pieces got them the goals… it happens. Not even a quarter though the season still top and in the main playing ok. Disappointed yes, panicking, no chance.


As many have said this had nothing to do with the subs it was a collective failure from manager to players. I am utterly sick of seeing the same garbage churned out week after week for season after season with no obvious glimmers of light. I have supported and followed pars all my long life but for the first time ever thinking twice about going to see them or picking up on pars tv when I am working away. When was the last time anyone had a spring in their step going to a pars game when we knew we would fight and have a go at anyone. Unfortunately it`s none of our managers or teams since Bert Paton or Jimmy Calderwood teams.
I am normally an optimistic person despite my comments but watching us struggle week after week is draining hohum
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 07:51

Although we were poor yesterday I can’t agree that we weren’t worth our 2 goal lead - we missed some chances in the first half and a sitter in the second from McCann as well as the 2 goals we scored.

Peterhead offered absolutely nothing apart from a powder puff Dow free kick which Mehmet inexplicably allowed to hit the bar.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 08:02

I can`t remember too many chances in the first half and even in the second we didn`t force their keeper into many saves. Also, I wouldn`t class McCann`s chance as a sitter... he got into a good position and should have probably hit the target but he got a wee nudge as he was about to hit it I think and that put him off balance. Even at that and the two goals, someone will have to remind me about all these chances we had.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 08:07

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AJ27, Sun 2 Oct 07:51

Although we were poor yesterday I can’t agree that we weren’t worth our 2 goal lead - we missed some chances in the first half and a sitter in the second from McCann as well as the 2 goals we scored.

Peterhead offered absolutely nothing apart from a powder puff Dow free kick which Mehmet inexplicably allowed to hit the bar.


Agree, AJ, although I`d cut Mehmet a bit of slack for the free kick, as I think the sun would have blinded him - not blameless for their equaliser, however.

I left in a state of shock and disbelief at how we managed to blow a 2-0 lead in the last few mins against such a poor team who were actually wasting time as early as 20 mins in - Paralex must have missed the player who rolled the ball away when it was their throw and there was no team mate to take it.



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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Murphy  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 08:26

I can’t remember us having too many clear cut chances either but we did control most of the game and Peterhead never looked like scoring from open play so it should have been a comfortable win for us.
I do remember about 4 or 5 of our attempts on goal however that were all hit high over the bar. It’s worrying that we can’t even seem to work the opposing keeper.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 09:38

agree with kelty_par on the McCann chance.

ReturningParsFan post on the Todorov chance, need to see the pass again but i thought Todorov was more interested in trying to get fouled rather than finish the chance, didnt have much confidence he would have finished it either way. how he got away with grabbing the centre half by the throat when Chalmers got booked as well is beyond me.

far too many wrong decisions on and off the park, ill put another out there, when the 2nd went in bring Fisher on as well as Ritchie-Hosler, go 3 at the back as they did at QOS and kill the game totally?

presume there will be changes next week at Alloa, would be nice to get them right for a change.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: LEGEND85  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 10:04

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GJS93, Sun 2 Oct 09:38

agree with kelty_par on the McCann chance.

ReturningParsFan post on the Todorov chance, need to see the pass again but i thought Todorov was more interested in trying to get fouled rather than finish the chance, didnt have much confidence he would have finished it either way. how he got away with grabbing the centre half by the throat when Chalmers got booked as well is beyond me.

far too many wrong decisions on and off the park, ill put another out there, when the 2nd went in bring Fisher on as well as Ritchie-Hosler, go 3 at the back as they did at QOS and kill the game totally?

presume there will be changes next week at Alloa, would be nice to get them right for a change.


Agree about the todorov chance It looked to me that he was looking for a foul it was pathetic.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 10:15

McPake calls it - rubbish display.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Dafc1996  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 11:13

Called it as he seen it....collectively and individually poor, no stand outs but as he says alot has been put on the shoulders of a loanee from another club, chris mocchrie...who jm says was the only pass today. Least he is no spouting any of the other guff we heard from managers after a poor display.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 11:37

Mochrie is a player there`s no doubts about that. Everything else about us is very safe. Hopefully the young loanees will add a bit of flair over the next few weeks.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 11:42

A disappointing result for sure and there will be more this season, this isn`t like the squad that won league 1 several years back that will annihilate teams.

I don`t think any of the teams in the league are any better than us, so McPake needs to find a way of getting the attack to be more clinical, hopefully the guys brought in on Friday can start to gel and add in with some goals. I think the risk of McPake not bringing in wingers up to this point was a bit strange given they tend to be very effective at this level, where fullbacks tend to be a bit suspect.

Still early in the season and the squad can still improve a lot performance wise, if the midfield can click better that`ll do a lot for games going forward. McCann needs to improve his finishing at senior level as well but he`s just turned 21 and sometimes it just clicks for a player, just need to keep creating chances and getting him in the right positions. Still a lot of things to work on for this squad but it could be an awful lot worse than being top of the table at this point.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 11:58

BUT:

Peterhead had beaten Kelty last time out, and with ten men? We didn`t beat Kelty.

The same Kelty who beat Airdrie and Falkirk.

We didn`t beat either of them.

So maybe there`s less between the teams from top to bottom than the table suggests.

Plus:

On our form for the last five games we`d be mid table.

Conclusion: I`m going to revise down my expectations. There are likely to be precious few easy games for us. Few that we`ll dominate. And the old saying that a team which plays badly but keeps winning (or topping the league) doesn`t apply to us. We just got off to a flyer. Now we`re decent, but only one of a handful that could win this league.

What I don`t figure is, most of our players are good enough for this league, aren`t they? Isn`t it only the forwards that are underperforming EXCRUCIATINGLY 😆 season after season?

Shankland, Ryan, O`Hara, Todorov, Wighton, etc. all have had reputations that went into suspended animation at EEP.



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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 13:38

Isn`t it a bit early for playing the old game of `Let`s choose the sequence of games which shows the Pars up in the worst light`? 8 games is less than a quarter of the season and the table is as good a measure of form as any. I`ve just had a look at it and was amazed to see that FC Edinburgh have the most wins with 5. Even allowing for them being a man short for most of the game against us they were very poor that day.

We`ve hardly set the heather on fire but neither has anyone else. Despite our poor goal-scoring record we`ve still got the best goal difference because we`ve got the best defensive record despite yesterday`s shambles.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 13:57

We need to be getting the ball into the box more to put pressure on defenders. We seem to hold onto the ball too much in front of the 18 yard box and lose momentum by moving the ball sideways giving the opposition time to organise their defence. We definately need wide players to get behind defenders and get crosses in. The more the ball is in the oppositions box the more likely we are to score.
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 14:59

It’s a long time since we chucked a two goal league like that. It does show that you are right to be concerned when we are only two up going unto stoppage time…

I know it’s a middle division and so the teams will tend to be much of a muchness but I certainly thought Peterhead were the poorest team I’d seen and should have been there for the taking.

Confidence and belief seem fragile. It’s as if goals come as a surprise. I noted that McCann made a couple of good runs from the left in the first half but when he got to the bye-line he had few options as Todorov was marked and there was no-one else. One, he let the ball run out of play for a corner (how often do we score from a corner?) and the second he cut it back to nobody and the defender nearly deflected into his own goal. Surely we need someone busting a gut to get into the box? Mochrie, presumably, or Todd, or even Macdonald or Chalmers. Someone who thinks that there is a goal on and they’re going to get it. In fact, I’m not sure why McCann is out on the left to begin with. If it’s the manager’s instructions, then the manager should be shouldering some more responsibility.

Mochrie made a couple of good runs – it was as if he suddenly realised he wasn’t up against much – he needs to try it more often.

I wasn’t bothered with the late substitutions – it seemed a reasonable decision to give the newbies some game time. I would be a little nervous throwing on a defender late on – I wonder whether this disrupts more than it settles. And I’m convinced that the footering about at the back will cost us a goal sooner or later.

But the Wighton situation continues to mystify.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 15:19

Re the substitutions, there`s a lot of 20/20 hindsight after a result like that. I bet there was no one in the stadium who didn`t think the game was won when we scored the second goal, regardless of what substitutions were made. There was only one made after that in any case; the other two were made when it was only 1-0.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 16:16

And the substitute directly contributed towards getting the second goal and two goal cushion that should have given us the win
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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 18:17


Isn`t it a bit early for playing the old game of `Let`s choose the sequence of games which shows the Pars up in the worst light`? 8 games is less than a quarter of the season and the table is as good a measure of form as any. I`ve just had a look at it and was amazed to see that FC Edinburgh have the most wins with 5. Even allowing for them being a man short for most of the game against us they were very poor that day.

We`ve hardly set the heather on fire but neither has anyone else. Despite our poor goal-scoring record we`ve still got the best goal difference because we`ve got the best defensive record despite yesterday`s shambles.


Wee Eck you`re telling us stuff everyone knows already.

What people are saying is, a bad result and is just around the corner, you can feel it coming.
If we can go the rest of the season being lucky and getting promotion then great but that rarely happens. The performances need to get much better mate, we know it, McPake knows it but it`s only the players that can do it, are they convincing us they can do it...??

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 19:05

Never mind a bad result being just round the corner, we had a bad result yesterday! After 8 games no one can predict what`s going to happen. You say we`ve been `lucky`. Don`t you think other teams will have been `lucky` too. They`ll also have been `unlucky` as we were when we had a late goal chalked off against Airdrie. I can never understand how Pars` fans can talk up other teams considering they have probably only seen them play once, if at all, this season. I bet we`re in a better position just now than a lot of fans were predicting before the season started.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 19:36

I’ve not seen anyone blaming the subs for the FT result. No idea where folk are getting that from.

I didn’t agree with the timings of them and felt we lost focus towards the end of the match. A couple of others have said similar.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 19:59

Eck, first of all im no interested in other teams...aye we`re in a good position I can`t deny that, but like I said, the performances are pretty rank and we`ll no stay in this position very long unless the players get the finger out. That`s if they`re good enough to get the finger out, which I`m beginning to wonder.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 20:16

My major concern is that James McPake said the we would be the fittest team in the league. Losing 2 very late goals to a part time team makes me think otherwise. I had hoped that under him we would have been quicker and more positive.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 21:02

It wasn`t fitness, it was stupid, naive defending, particularly from Breen.

Ep. 4 of East End Tales is out now with Colin Miller, talking about Tannadice from 1996

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 21:51

What rankled me as much as the result is that wee nyaff of a Peterheid goalkeeper wasting time every time he had a goal kick, until we scored, when his distribution suddenly went into overdrive and couldn`t get the ball up the park fast enough. Then after we gifted them two goals and the final whistle blew, turning to the Norrie with a victory salute. But now that I`ve had time to think about it I just have to laugh and in his position I would probably have done the same.

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 22:17

Has anyone else wondered if they hadn`t wasted so much time at 0-0, would the ref still have added on enough time for them to equalise?

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 Re: Match thread: Pars 2-2 Peterhead
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 2 Oct 22:22

I did wonder if they equalised in the time added on for time-wasting but I`m not sure he added any on. I think he added on about 5 minutes but there had been a few subs and a long delay for Dixon`s injury.

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