|
|
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sun 19 Mar 00:24
He’s got tore in about a boy on Twitter tonight understandably.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sun 19 Mar 00:35
The comments made on Twitter are absolutely disgusting and the fan in question should be sought out and banned from East End park….scum.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 19 Mar 00:50
What was the original tweet? Looks like the keyboard warrior has shat it and deleted it but seems like someone was having a pop at his family??
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Sun 19 Mar 01:01
The tweet has been screenshot and posted in the comments on Twitter. It’s a disgraceful comment and James has replied in a way I would have done to be fair. The poster is obviously full of regret and just found out the hard way that when you post “pub talk” on social media you’ll be called out on it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 19 Mar 01:14
Ah yeah it`s in one of the replies. I actually thought it was going to be worse than it was although its obviously a really daft thing to say especially when his daughters are kids. At least the poster seems genuine in the apology.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Kyle DAFC
Date: Sun 19 Mar 01:45
“ It’s a disgraceful comment and James has replied in a way I would have done to be fair.”
It’s something that is said tongue in cheek all the time, the poster of said tweet obviously didn’t mean it personally or in a serious way. For our manager to be going on to twitter on a Saturday night replying and swearing at fans isn’t a great look, regardless of what was said.
“To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.”
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: NiallDAFC
Date: Sun 19 Mar 01:56
Quote:
Kyle DAFC, Sun 19 Mar 01:45
“ It’s a disgraceful comment and James has replied in a way I would have done to be fair.”
It’s something that is said tongue in cheek all the time, the poster of said tweet obviously didn’t mean it personally or in a serious way. For our manager to be going on to twitter on a Saturday night replying and swearing at fans isn’t a great look, regardless of what was said.
You must be joking right? Did you see the tweet?
Some roaster making a comment like that about his kids. Guy should be found and banned from EEP. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour over a game of football. Good on McPake, calling this out! I agree with him, guys a pr*k.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Kyle DAFC
Date: Sun 19 Mar 02:40
Found and banned from EEP? Get over yourself. Stop acting like it was a personal attack on Mcpake’s kids, was a tongue in cheek comment that’s said often as a joke and if a 38 year old man is getting that wound up about a tweet from a 16 year old then he should probably refrain from going on twitter after a few peronis.
“To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.”
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: NiallDAFC
Date: Sun 19 Mar 03:12
Aye fair enough a bit ott but if a comment states “Todorov must be * McPakes daughter” it sounds pretty personal to me, and can totally understand JMcP reaction. Regardless if it’s used as a tongue in cheek comment it’s totally inappropriate and unacceptable. Teams top of the league and now 9 pts clear.
16!? Jesus wept min. Terrible patter from the young man but I did see his apology, so well done to him for that, McPake rightly so still not impressed. I do agree that Todorov should’ve played today and get a run but still no need for the post.
I was just surprised that you were more upset with JMcP reaction, he’s a passionate man who doesn’t hold back in his work life so I don’t expect him to be any different in his family life. A lot would’ve been less restrained than he was in this situation. He doesn’t even really swear just calls him a w*nker and pr*ck and invites him to say it away from social media. He wouldn’t know the poster was only 16 in fairness.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sun 19 Mar 03:36
Twitter is honestly a haven for absolute brain dead mouth breathers honestly
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Sun 19 Mar 07:44
I`d extend that sentiment to include all of social media!
Even the `professional version LinkedIn is just as bad but to far the other way! I kinda had to join given my work and is all full of "So pleased to have <insert duine my job>", really proud to have passed <insert one day course>"
Nothing more than a big circle jerk
Having brought the kids up through the social media age, I Genuinely wish things like Twitter would just shrivel and die!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Sun 19 Mar 07:53
I dont think there is anything to gain for Mcpake to search for himself on twitter after a few beers on a saturday night
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sun 19 Mar 08:01
I take a different standpoint to quite a lot of people on this I think.
It`s absolutely disgraceful that big proportions of people consider anyone in the public eye to be fair game. People need to be accountable for the stuff they post and the more that`s done to call people out and deal with them, the better.
Irrespective of how famous people are, how much money they have, or how much they court publicity for other aspects of their career, everyone is human and I cringe when I see what some people post online. And I`m talking about places like here as well.
And I`m a total hypocrite by the way as I could be a total numpty online 15/20 years ago when I was dafter.
Ultimately because football is a public game and has this weird tribal element, people lose their reason completely.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sun 19 Mar 08:10
100% agree with you, DBP.
I stopped using Facebook 10 years ago, but I stuck with Linkedin because I saw it as useful in its early years for a multitude of practical work matters.
However, now that I am retired, I look at it with much more jaundices eyes. As you say, it has become a glorified collective corporate w**k, and if you fail to click "like" on certain posts, you could well endanger your career.
Twitter too has a grossly inflated value. On balance, surely it causes more damage than provide value?
A football manager should not be placed in a situation where he is forced to respond to the idiotic ramblings of an attention-seeking child.
I have always formed the view that once the final whistle blows on a game, the players, the manager, the referee and the linesmen are free from public abuse until the next match kicks-off.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: P
Date: Sun 19 Mar 08:17
Quote:
Kyle DAFC, Sun 19 Mar 01:45
“ It’s a disgraceful comment and James has replied in a way I would have done to be fair.”
It’s something that is said tongue in cheek all the time, the poster of said tweet obviously didn’t mean it personally or in a serious way. For our manager to be going on to twitter on a Saturday night replying and swearing at fans isn’t a great look, regardless of what was said.
His oldest daughter is 9 - if that’s the sort of banter you have all the time you are a troubled individual
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sun 19 Mar 08:22
Football Par is spot on.
Though a full stop after Twitter and leave the beers bit out would have been fine.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: TommyR
Date: Sun 19 Mar 08:31
It is baffling that a manager who has literally reinvented our club, made fresh signings, lost just ONE game the whole season and beaten our rivals twice back to back recently, and is pretty much guaranteeing our return to the championship gets abuse on twitter..
Oh wait.. it`s twitter and every club has smooth brained armchair managers..
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sun 19 Mar 09:02
Quite enjoy banter that is as some would say `close to the bone` but that was out of order. I`m frustrated that Todorov didn`t get on yesterday but to say something like that when his oldest child isn`t even 10 is wrong. I don`t think the poster put much thought into it in that sense and has at least held his hands up, not that McPake is for forgiving him!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sun 19 Mar 09:37
I think the best way to treat this sort of thing is to rise above it and say nothing. I am sure JM`s best response is to get promotion for the club. If you engage in it you just get drawn into further debate. Best to channel your effort and time into proving them wrong.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sun 19 Mar 09:42
In the boys` defence, he`s not tagged McPake in it and didn`t expect him to see it. He`s obviously a daft wee laddie who`s said something he thought would be funny/controversial for likes, without any thought process of the people involved.
He`s rightly apologised and I`m sure he had no idea about the ages of McPakes kids.
For me, it`s a bit far to call it a personal attack. It`s a daft, inappropriate comment but there was no malice in it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 19 Mar 09:57
I’d agree with that DBA and I’m sure the lad has learned a valuable lesson ?
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sun 19 Mar 09:57)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 19 Mar 09:57
James McPake`s anger is perfectly understandable, to put such a comment on social media is beyond idiotic and because there are lots of similarly brainless comments, doesn`t make it remotely acceptable.
However..... I can`t help thinking it might have been better for McPake to have resisted that immediate urge to reply and left it to others on Twitter to condemn the numpty responsible. Easier said than done, I know. I have every sympathy for James, he`s still a young man himself, but sometimes when you`re in the public eye you have to keep your cool and bite your tongue, otherwise you risk being dragged down to the same level as the morons you`re reacting to. If the lad in question is only 16, I`d cut him a bit of slack on this occasion and hope he`s learned his lesson. Ironically, if he has, it`s only because McPake reacted so angrily to his post. I`m sure there are those who go on Twitter and make comments designed to rile well known people and take great delight when they are successful in provoking an angry reaction.
Although I`m on Twitter myself, I rarely use it. I`m curious as to how I would know or find any comments about me. Would it need someone I know to tip me off?
I have Twi
Not your average Sunday League player.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 19 Mar 10:11
I’d very much doubt he knew he was 16, in the same way the poster didn’t know the ages of his daughters. ?
A daft post without much thought. An emotional reply, without much thought.
Let lessons be learned on both sides and move on
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Sun 19 Mar 10:52
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 19 Mar 09:57
Although I`m on Twitter myself, I rarely use it. I`m curious as to how I would know or find any comments about me. Would it need someone I know to tip me off?
GG, if the young guy follows McPake on Twitter, it`s probably conceivable that it appeared on James`s newsfeed without him searching for anything
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: bigdonnie
Date: Sun 19 Mar 11:35
fc edinburgh had no intent in attacking wanted to strangle life out of game which they did and try to hit us on break remember was same in 1-0 win here last year took deflected own goal in last minute to break them down pars play better away as home team normally have to attack in front of there own fans james has done great job some people not happy remembef when we won league in 1980,s got pumped 4-0 at meadowbank with stand in goalie hamish mccalpine in goal he actually saved us from worse doing we recovered and won the league so people never happy
donald mcneil
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 19 Mar 11:38
What`s really depressing isn`t so much the comment of an idiot on twitter, it`s that the person posting it is old enough to know better. Hope he apologises.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sun 19 Mar 12:09
Quote:
jake89, Sun 19 Mar 11:38
What`s really depressing isn`t so much the comment of an idiot on twitter, it`s that the person posting it is old enough to know better. Hope he apologises.
He apologised immediately when he realised McPake had seen it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 19 Mar 12:12
So I see. Fair play to him. The post wasn`t as bad as I expected. Still not acceptable but at least he deleted it and apologised.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 19 Mar 12:47
It`s nice when people apologise but it would be nicer if they thought about the possible consequences before they posted.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 19 Mar 14:40
A couple of key questions that need to be addressed.
Does anyone know who posted the original comment? Is the person even a Dunfermline supporter?
If the answer to both is yes then he should be banned for life by the club. If you can`t go to a game and act reasonable after a result doesn`t go your way then unfortunately football isnt for you.
If anyone makes a remark about someone`s private life why can`t the person respond the way mcpake has. The idiot in person clearly a keyboard warrior that can`t cope with not getting his own way.
I take it some clearly haven`t learned from the saga with Ross. It`s quite sad that these people have decided to support our club. This sort of thing is something that Falkirk fans would do.
c'mon the pars
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sun 19 Mar 14:48
It looks like a genuine 16 year old fan. I`m not condoning what he did by any stretch but a lifetime ban from the stadium is a bit overkill. You could murder someone, do your sentence and get back into a game whereas a daft 16 year old chatting shoite on line couldn`t. It`s a bit disproportionate. He`s apologised seems quite embarrassed and has been pulled up by McPake for it. I don`t think too much more needs to happen.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sun 19 Mar 14:56
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 19 Mar 14:40
A couple of key questions that need to be addressed.
Does anyone know who posted the original comment? Is the person even a Dunfermline supporter?
If the answer to both is yes then he should be banned for life by the club. If you can`t go to a game and act reasonable after a result doesn`t go your way then unfortunately football isnt for you.
If anyone makes a remark about someone`s private life why can`t the person respond the way mcpake has. The idiot in person clearly a keyboard warrior that can`t cope with not getting his own way.
I take it some clearly haven`t learned from the saga with Ross. It`s quite sad that these people have decided to support our club. This sort of thing is something that Falkirk fans would do.
What a load of nonsense. A 16 year old makes an unacceptable comment online, realises his mistake and apologises immediately, and you want him banned for life?
If everyone was judged for life at 16 years old, then we`d be in a very different world.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Bazzler1981
Date: Sun 19 Mar 15:21
The boy has a Wighton parody page he posts some funny (haha) stuff, he’s totally misread the room and posted something he thought was funny but has backfired on him. To be fair he’s realised his mistake and apologised, he’s very remorseful on twitter today and has took down his page and said he’s taking time out. If James is as good a man as he seems he will take the apology and they can both move on.hopefully the boy learns from this mistake
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sun 19 Mar 16:19
can we just close this thread now.
somebody made a mistake, learned from it and can move on.
p.s. I forgot to add. "I`ve NEVER made a mistake" !!
ha ha
Post Edited (Sun 19 Mar 16:20)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sun 19 Mar 17:02
Banned for life! Dearie me.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Ormiston_Par
Date: Sun 19 Mar 18:32
For what it`s worth, I read the entire exchange and thought McPake came off looking like the bigger a***hole.
The young lad (to his credit) was genuinely remorseful about his initial, stupid tweet and issued a sincere apology. Apparently McPake wasn`t prepared to accept that however, and went on to call him a p***k. Classy...
No winners here. A rather unfortunate situation all round.
The artist formerly known as KGB / Slim Hoolie
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Big G Ball
Date: Sun 19 Mar 21:10
Our manager is a dad so for the retard that posted the initial comment…..wise up, ur comment Is a disgrace…top by 9 points yet still criticisms……disgrace. I’ve been a thug in my time and love controversy but hey ho we have a great manager….,so bury urself u clown
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: gegganpar
Date: Sun 19 Mar 21:35
Quote:
Big G Ball, Sun 19 Mar 21:10
Our manager is a dad so for the retard that posted the initial comment…..wise up, ur comment Is a disgrace…top by 9 points yet still criticisms……disgrace. I’ve been a thug in my time and love controversy but hey ho we have a great manager….,so bury urself u clown
Totally agree.
Wasn`t sure when we announced him as our manager 🤔 but he`s more than proved how good he is and hopefully the contract extension goes through. I`d give him a 5 year deal.
I know that`s massive for us but I think he`s the real deal.
P.S we also need to keep Mckay
J angus blacklaws
Post Edited (Sun 19 Mar 21:38)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Ormiston_Par
Date: Sun 19 Mar 22:01
Our manager is a dad so for the retard that posted the initial comment…..wise up, ur comment Is a disgrace…top by 9 points yet still criticisms……disgrace. I’ve been a thug in my time and love controversy but hey ho we have a great manager….,so bury urself u clown
Do you think calling someone a "retard" on a public forum is better or worse than what this young lad posted on Twitter?
Personally, being the father of a child with additional needs I think it`s worse. Significantly worse.
The artist formerly known as KGB / Slim Hoolie
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: AlfonzoBonzo
Date: Sun 19 Mar 23:01
Same, you should be ashamed ! My best mates daughter has cerebral palsy and as far as I’m concerned, this is as bad as using the ‘n’ word to describe a black person.
Post Edited (Mon 20 Mar 02:28)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sun 19 Mar 23:57
can we stop this name calling please.
lets try and keep dialogue on a level.
you complain if we delete posts, but we will so keep it at a decent level
____________________
contact: email me
File Share: https://share2.co.uk
ParsTV: https://ParsTV.co.uk
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 20 Mar 03:13
Points to James for calling out the little pr*k. Notice his panicked little apology when called out. Guys the most successful manager for us since Macca imo, absolutely no need for such gross attacks
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 20 Mar 06:51
Hopefully this guy has learnt a lesson that you cant just type what you want online and face no consequences. Most companies now look on a potential employee social media pages before interviews. Phil Neville posted something and it resurfaced when he got the England woman`s job and there was calls for him to go.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Mon 20 Mar 08:28)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 20 Mar 08:00
To be fair, I think Neville said that he`d just `battered` his wife, in reference to them playing table tennis, but his wording was picked up on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Mon 20 Mar 10:05
"To be fair, I think Neville said that he`d just `battered` his wife, in reference to them playing table tennis, but his wording was picked up on."
See, that`s where the PC brigade need to get a grip. Certain words have different meanings and it`s ridiculous to pick up on things like this. Wanting someone sacked because of that is incredibly sad
In terms of McPake, I don`t understand how people can think he comes out bad in this. What`s wrong with being protective of your children? I`d imagine if anyone with kids that age (or older) heard someone say that would blow up as well. I wouldn`t take it as a joke. The only plus for the poster is that he apologised and will hopefully learn from that. You cannot talk about people`s children like that on a platform that the world can see and that is where I despise social media - for things like this. It gives idiots the platform to insult/threaten anyone and you can guarantee they will see it. It even puts Todorov in an unfair awkward position.
My worry now is certain fans will now jump all over this when we play them.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Ormiston_Par
Date: Mon 20 Mar 10:06
Points to James for calling out the little pr*k. Notice his panicked little apology when called out. Guys the most successful manager for us since Macca imo, absolutely no need for such gross attacks
I`m astounded by comments like this. McPake`s tweets in response to the original comment were totally disproportionate and (as I`ve said above) made him come out it looking even worse than the silly young laddie he was replying to. Worse still, when the boy clearly regretted his original tweet and issued an apology, McPake doubled down on his aggression. That is not the behaviour of a professional, IMO.
The best response of all would have been no response (i.e. - just rise above and ignore it).
McPake may be doing a great job as DAFC manager but his professional conduct (or lack thereof) is absolutely fair game to discuss and criticise.
The artist formerly known as KGB / Slim Hoolie
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 20 Mar 10:25
I must say I`m surprised the manager was anywhere near social media on a Saturday night. I presumed he would tell his players to stay away from it (including this forum), especially just after a game.
That doesn`t excuse the offensive tweet though. Some people seem to think social media exists in a parallel universe which isn`t inhabited by real people. I find it quite scary to be honest.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: NiallDAFC
Date: Mon 20 Mar 11:13
Why do people think McPake has to remain quiet and not defend his name and that of his family?
In what other way could someone make such a comment and expect to get away with it? Do it in the street you’ll likely get punched.
Here in lies the problem in todays society. People more upset that McPake has stood up for himself and his family rather than being upset with the tit who posted it in the 1st place.
No post = no reaction. Simples.
Regardless JMcP is human and has a passionate and feisty personality. Come after him or his kids at your own peril but do not criticise him for standing up to it. His replies were fairly tame tbh.
He can take footballing criticism from anyone but mention his kids, even in a so called commonly used phrase, then expect a defence.
That post would likely still be circulating on social media had McPake not responded, which forced the lad into the apology and deletion of it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Ormiston_Par
Date: Mon 20 Mar 11:44
Would it be fair to say that there`s a happy medium in between my suggestion (ie - don`t react, say nothing) and what McPake actually did (ie - called the boy a w**ker, told him to come to the club and repeat his comment and then, once the boy had profusely apologised, doubled down and called him a p***k)?
If McPake was going to engage with the boy at all then a more measured and professional response would have been to make clear that such comments are neither constructive nor helpful, and that while his performance as DAFC manager is fair game to criticise, it is in no way acceptable for members of his family to be mentioned when people do so.
A wee bit of decorum and diplomacy goes a very long way.
The artist formerly known as KGB / Slim Hoolie
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 20 Mar 11:54
The manager responds to an absolutely appalling post online.
The guy is human & made an error. He`s off twitter now so hopefully the same mistake won`t happen again.
Move on - as McGlum says "no-ones` deid"
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Ormiston_Par
Date: Mon 20 Mar 12:13
The manager responds to an absolutely appalling post online.
Come on, really? Some of the language being bandied about here is laughable TBH - the original tweet wasn`t "absolutely appalling"....it was rather crass, peurile and immature but let`s not forget that it came from a 16 year old kid.
Personally I have a higher tolerance of daft wee laddies posting stupid comments on the internet than I do for grown men who can`t exercise even a little bit of restraint.
Post Edited (Mon 20 Mar 12:14)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: P
Date: Mon 20 Mar 12:21
I suspect people’s viewpoints are skewed by their own life, those that are parents (especially of girls) will be more likely to get their heckles up and those who are not will likely find the initial comments do not resonate with them quite as much.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 20 Mar 12:32
Ok we can agree to disagree about the wording. I think it`s a pretty vile thing to say in any walk of life. There are so many other ways of getting his/her point across without resorting to that type of language. Also, I don`t use twitter but is it easy to see the posters` age when they tweet?
What`s your end game here? Do you want him sacked for "gross misconduct"? Do you want him to apologise to the kid? It`s bizarre that he is classed as a "kid" & is allowed your instant forgiveness for his offensive post but can vote?
It`s a bit odd that you can`t seem to just let this go?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Mon 20 Mar 12:49
Age is not shown on twitter, unless you type it into your bio - but then you can type anything into that and folk won`t necessarily see it. Whether he`s 16 or 26 he was d1ck, got called out and was well out of order. McPake has my backing.
Post Edited (Mon 20 Mar 12:49)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Mon 20 Mar 13:18
Quote:
Athletico, Mon 20 Mar 12:49
Age is not shown on twitter, unless you type it into your bio - but then you can type anything into that and folk won`t necessarily see it. Whether he`s 16 or 26 he was d1ck, got called out and was well out of order. McPake has my backing.
His was in his bio.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 20 Mar 14:37
Does anyone read bios? Depending on how McPake accesses twitter he may not have seen it.
I think we can summarise as:
Daft laddie says daft thing
Person who daft thing was about reacted
Daft laddie apologised
Response was deleted.
Can probably draw a line under it. People all too often forget that social media can be read by anyone unless you limit access. I would`ve thought most young people nowadays would have heard/seen all the stories of people losing jobs/opportunities because of something daft they posted in the past.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Mon 20 Mar 17:10
Topic Originator: jake89 like
Date: Mon 20 Mar 14:37
Does anyone read bios? Depending on how McPake accesses twitter he may not have seen it.
I certainly don`t.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 20 Mar 17:43
Quote:
Ormiston_Par, Mon 20 Mar 11:44
Would it be fair to say that there`s a happy medium in between my suggestion (ie - don`t react, say nothing) and what McPake actually did (ie - called the boy a w**ker, told him to come to the club and repeat his comment and then, once the boy had profusely apologised, doubled down and called him a p***k)?
If McPake was going to engage with the boy at all then a more measured and professional response would have been to make clear that such comments are neither constructive nor helpful, and that while his performance as DAFC manager is fair game to criticise, it is in no way acceptable for members of his family to be mentioned when people do so.
A wee bit of decorum and diplomacy goes a very long way.
I`m sure if someone mentioned your 9yr old in social media in a disgusting manner you`d be chill about it I`m sure
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 20 Mar 18:37
He`s been on the wind up since bread came sliced. Best to ignore
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Ormiston_Par
Date: Mon 20 Mar 18:42
I`m sure if someone mentioned your 9yr old in social media in a disgusting manner you`d be chill about it I`m sure
I certainly wouldn`t, but nobody mentioned McPake`s 9 year old in any manner - disgusting or otherwise. The tweet made reference only to "his daughter", and I dare say the person probably did so without knowing whether or not McPake even had a daughter.
This was not a deliberate, targeted attack on any specific member of McPake`s family like some are making it out to be - this was a stupid, thoughtless, throwaway comment that unfortunately provoked a ludicrous overreaction from a grown man who should have known better.
What`s your end game here? Do you want him sacked for "gross misconduct"? Do you want him to apologise to the kid? It`s bizarre that he is classed as a "kid" & is allowed your instant forgiveness for his offensive post but can vote?
Curious....why do you mention gross misconduct and more specifically, why do you put it in quotes? Nobody has even mentioned the prospect of any consequences for McPake, let alone anything as serious as him being sacked. It feels almost as though you`re trying to put words in to my mouth. Also, unfortunately have no control over how old someone has to be in order to vote - although TBH I struggle to see what that has to do with the matter at hand...
Regardless, it`s a moot point now but in the absence of McPake simply ignoring it completely, what I`d prefer to have seen at the time was for him to accept the lad`s apology, reinforce that this should be considered a valuable life lesson, move on and ultimately not behave in such a way that he had to delete his own Twitter account.
Unfortunately, what`s done is done - the point I was hoping to get across on this particular thread was aimed at those applauding McPake`s expletive-laden responses as though they were somehow heroic.
As I said above, I think McPake`s tweets were every bit as bad (if not worse) than the original comment.
But then maybe I`m just too reasonable a chap...
Post Edited (Mon 20 Mar 19:28)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 20 Mar 18:45
Yes, but he didn`t. He used a cliche, which we`ve all heard before, without naming anyone specific.
No-one is saying it is right and McPake is within his rights to tell him he`s out of order.
The kid on twitter apologises, backtracks and gives McPake the chance to draw a line under it.
At that point, a 38-year old adult, and manager of a professional football club, should probably take the chance. Something like, `apology accepted but be careful about bringing anyone`s family into a debate about kicking a ball around`.
The boy had already learnt his lesson, so to go in again two-footed by calling him a w@n*er, in full view of everyone following the tete-a-tete is not particularly clever.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Mon 20 Mar 19:34
Instead of lambasting our manager for his response, it`s worth remembering he`s only human and there may be other things going on in his head when this is brought to his attention.
Context is important, too many seem to relish sticking the foot in. Quite honestly I`m glad I don`t have a job where I`m in the spotlight constantly, can`t imagine it at an even higher level.
Ep. 7 of East End Tales is out now with Callum Morris! Match in focus: Stenhousemuir 4-5 Pars
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/12386572
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 20 Mar 19:40
Quote:
Ormiston_Par, Mon 20 Mar 18:42
I`m sure if someone mentioned your 9yr old in social media in a disgusting manner you`d be chill about it I`m sure
I certainly wouldn`t, but nobody mentioned McPake`s 9 year old in any manner - disgusting or otherwise. The tweet made reference only to "his daughter", and I dare say the person probably did so without knowing whether or not McPake even had a daughter.
This was not a deliberate, targeted attack on any specific member of McPake`s family like some are making it out to be - this was a stupid, thoughtless, throwaway comment that unfortunately provoked a ludicrous overreaction from a grown man who should have known better.
What`s your end game here? Do you want him sacked for "gross misconduct"? Do you want him to apologise to the kid? It`s bizarre that he is classed as a "kid" & is allowed your instant forgiveness for his offensive post but can vote?
Curious....why do you mention gross misconduct and more specifically, why do you put it in quotes? Nobody has even mentioned the prospect of any consequences for McPake, let alone anything as serious as him being sacked. It feels almost as though you`re trying to put words in to my mouth....
Regardless, it`s a moot point now but what I`d like to have seen at the time was for McPake to accept the lad`s apology, acknowledge that this was a valuable life lesson for him, move on and ultimately not have to delete his Twitter account.
Maybe I`m just far too reasonable a chap......
Totally agree with all of this.
Some years ago someone made a very derogatory comment about one of my daughters when she won the Miss Fife competition. He had never met or even seen her.
I just posted, "I`m going to hold my breath."
Within half an hour someone must have had a word with him because he promptly apologised, admitting he was just gobbing off for his own entertainment without thinking.
I met him a couple of years later Iwas actually buying something from him, and I told him who I was and reminded him of his comment.
He apologised again and we laughed and moved on.
This is a very similar situation and both parties should just accept it was a thoughtless, not personal, comment and an understandable reaction.
One thing I dont agree with is the term, 16 year old kid.
You can get married at 16 in this country.
He isnt a kid.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 20 Mar 19:52
The boy got in wrong in posting this, but McPake should have taken a step back and either called him out about it after thinking about a measured response, and then should have accepted the apology and moved on.
What he has now done is had to come off twitter and highlighted to everyone what gets him triggered. I`m sure the Falkirk fans will have plenty of ammo for him now
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 20 Mar 19:54
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 20 Mar 18:37
He`s been on the wind up since bread came sliced. Best to ignore
I`d bet my house that he isn`t on the wind up, da.
I think we can all agree that mistakes were made by both the lad making the stupid and thoughtless tweet and our manager in rising to the bait. I don`t see the point in arguing about who is more or less to blame. It`s almost certain that the boy didn`t even know that McPake had a daughter, never mind that she`s only 9 and McPake himself had no idea that the boy was 16.
I can`t believe this sorry situation would have arisen if one or both had been aware of these facts. Time to draw a line under it before some tabloid hack gets a hold of it. The Pars don`t need the sort of negative publicity this would generate.
Not your average Sunday League player.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Mon 20 Mar 20:14
It`s already in the tabloids GG, The S*n were running it this morning.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 20 Mar 20:27
Good Post G.G.and cannot believe this nonsense has reached the tabloids
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Mon 20 Mar 20:29
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Mon 20 Mar 18:45
Yes, but he didn`t. He used a cliche, which we`ve all heard before, without naming anyone specific.
No-one is saying it is right and McPake is within his rights to tell him he`s out of order.
The kid on twitter apologises, backtracks and gives McPake the chance to draw a line under it.
At that point, a 38-year old adult, and manager of a professional football club, should probably take the chance. Something like, `apology accepted but be careful about bringing anyone`s family into a debate about kicking a ball around`.
The boy had already learnt his lesson, so to go in again two-footed by calling him a w@n*er, in full view of everyone following the tete-a-tete is not particularly clever.
Absolutely bang on. Mcpake has had a shocker.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: brian
Date: Mon 20 Mar 21:34
I`ve had emails in asking to delete this thread.
It`s nonsense it`s come to this.
Bamba daft, don`t know what planet are you on, why you are trying to stir up trouble.
One person did something, was sorted end of
Now people (keyboard warriors) are fanning the flames, if they weren`t anonymous I bet they wouldn`t spout rubbish
We need to look seriously at some of the rubbish posted on here.
Do you want me to remove this thread
____________________
contact: email me
File Share: https://share2.co.uk
ParsTV: https://ParsTV.co.uk
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 20 Mar 21:41
Yes, please.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Mon 20 Mar 21:44
Quote:
brian, Mon 20 Mar 21:34
I`ve had emails in asking to delete this thread.
It`s nonsense it`s come to this.
Bamba daft, don`t know what planet are you on, why you are trying to stir up trouble.
One person did something, was sorted end of
Now people (keyboard warriors) are fanning the flames, if they weren`t anonymous I bet they wouldn`t spout rubbish
We need to look seriously at some of the rubbish posted on here.
Do you want me to remove this thread
What has bamba daft posted that`s stirring up trouble ? Is it just because you don`t agree with his view on the matter?
No you shouldn`t close the thread, especially just because some folk don`t like the content.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Mon 20 Mar 21:46
How is it stirring up trouble to say Mcpake has had a bit of a nightmare? would argue he agrees somewhat judging by the fact he’s deleted it all and deleted his Twitter completely. As pointed out above, he said his piece.. he could have left it but continued the argument in public. Maybe he should have sent the reply in a direct message. It’s just not very professional.
Edited to add : just seen that mcpake hasn’t deleted it. Was told he had. I’m in no way attacking him, it’s obviously something which he has zero tolerance of and that’s fair enough. Just maybe not wise to do it on such a public forum.
Post Edited (Mon 20 Mar 21:54)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 20 Mar 21:54
Yes please!!!!!! Next game Montrose. Will Matty Todd be fit to play?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Mon 20 Mar 21:56
This thread needs to be closed it is doing nobody any good leaving it open
|
|
|
|
|
|
