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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 30 Apr 11:39
Is it really a £23 walk up price for the Main Stand? Ooft.
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Sun 30 Apr 11:46
Not all the main stand just the central main stand with the padded seats. They were £22 this year.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sun 30 Apr 11:50
£23 for a restricted view with the pillars. No thanks
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Topic Originator: PeterHu50
Date: Sun 30 Apr 11:59
Quote:
RMGpar, Sun 30 Apr 11:09
Good pricing structure once again IMO
https://dafc.co.uk/tickets_1885
Not convinced I agree. Over 65s now have to pay full adult price until they are 75. That’ll hurt quite a few current senior season cards holders I imagine; they’ve been used to discount from age 65 for a wee while.
Will other clubs be increasing their senior citizens to age to 75 as well?
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sun 30 Apr 12:09
Changing it to over 75 seems ridiculous.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sun 30 Apr 12:09
No they haven’t? Over 65 still save £100 on an adults price.
In not against it but we can’t discount every single age bracket.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 30 Apr 12:10
And here begins the annual debate on why we accept the notion that pensioners have it harder than those working...
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Sun 30 Apr 12:13
Option for renewing under 12 season ticket isn`t available for my kid. Anyone else having same issue?
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 30 Apr 12:21
Isn`t over 75 a separate category for older fans? Are 65 to 74 year olds not covered by `Disabled Senior Citizen` ie that covers Disabled supporters AND Senior Citizens?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 30 Apr 12:23
Yep that’s the way I read it, Wee Eck.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 30 Apr 12:49
It`s groundhog day..... again
Those are good prices
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: PARSwede
Date: Sun 30 Apr 12:59
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 30 Apr 12:21
Isn`t over 75 a separate category for older fans? Are 65 to 74 year olds not covered by `Disabled Senior Citizen` ie that covers Disabled supporters AND Senior Citizens?
Can anyone confirm this?
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 30 Apr 13:02
Quote:
DJAS, Sun 30 Apr 12:13
Option for renewing under 12 season ticket isn`t available for my kid. Anyone else having same issue?
Yes. Same here.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sun 30 Apr 13:07
It would be good if that graphic could be updated.
I`m pretty sure it is saying that the £215 concession price applies to both over 65 and disabled, but it`s not absolutely clear. Especially so as other categories at the same price further down (young adult, student) are separated out into different lines. If it could be changed so that the `disabled senior citizens` line becomes two lines with `over 65` and `disabled`, it would be much clearer.
When I first scanned it, my first reaction was that the age for concessions was being increased to 75. On a second read I`m fairly sure that isn`t the case, but would be very good to update to avoid people seeing it the way I initially did and being put off.
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Topic Originator: PARSwede
Date: Sun 30 Apr 13:12
Agreed Socks
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sun 30 Apr 13:15
If you actually go into it, there the option of 65+ its just not shown on the graphic
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sun 30 Apr 13:15
Just renewed mine. I am 66 and paid £215. After that season, that`s a bargain.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Sun 30 Apr 13:33
How long have you got to renew to guarantee your same seat?
Found the graphic at bottom - got until 1st July
Post Edited (Sun 30 Apr 13:36)
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Topic Originator: parfection
Date: Sun 30 Apr 13:34
As someone who will have their 65th birthday before the season starts, I was also taken aback on first reading. Then I realised that the intention was senior citizens / disabled. I agree with Socks - I hope the club picks up on this and makes this crystal clear in case it continues to confuse people.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 13:59
My ticket up £15 from last season. I mean £329 was pretty steep for League 1 but now it’s £345 for all these exciting games against Morton etc.
It would be interesting to know how our ticket prices compare to other teams in the championship. Especially other clubs that have had more success on the park.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:04
That`s an increase of less than 5% when inflation is over twice that and the standard of football should improve. The club has to `balance the books` at the very least.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:09
Just feels like we’re getting shafted. Just looked at the Rovers prices. They’re £300 for all stands this current season.
I can maybe understand the pricing if we challenge for the title but if we’re going to mince about in the championship like the years prior to us getting relegated then you have to ask where are we putting the money?
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:14
So you`re assessing the prices based on what kind of season you think we`re going to have? How do you think we`re going to improve without attracting better players? And how are the fans being `shafted`? We`re not paying out dividends to shareholders who have no interest in the future of the club. All the money from tickets helps to run the club.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:16
So how is charging our fans more than other fans in the championship helping us attract better players? We got relegated last season for Christ sake!
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:17
Hopefully they sort out the finance issue, that will attract more sales.
Post Edited (Sun 30 Apr 14:18)
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:25
Being lazy here but has anyone worked out the tipping point for how many games you can miss before you lose the value
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:25
`So how is charging our fans more than other fans in the championship helping us attract better players? We got relegated last season for Christ sake!`
Do I really need to answer that?
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:27
Quote:
rikaka, Sun 30 Apr 14:25
Being lazy here but has anyone worked out the tipping point for how many games you can miss before you lose the value
Ah it`s at the bottom of the article. 3 that`s pretty decent
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:28
Or don’t bother and answer what suits you.
£345 is bordering on some premier league clubs.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:29
I will miss more than 3 games so not really worth buying one.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:29
`Being lazy here but has anyone worked out the tipping point for how many games you can miss before you lose the value`
Isn`t that what the final column `No of games saved` indicates?
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:35
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 30 Apr 14:29
`Being lazy here but has anyone worked out the tipping point for how many games you can miss before you lose the value`
Isn`t that what the final column `No of games saved` indicates?
Yeah I spotted that once I read the article :)
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:43
Quote:
The Boss, Sun 30 Apr 14:28
Or don’t bother and answer what suits you.
£345 is bordering on some premier league clubs.
Buy the cheaper one at £315 and save some cash.
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Topic Originator: Vamos Pars
Date: Sun 30 Apr 14:46
Doesn’t seem to be any age restrictions on the “young adult” ticket. Presumably if you feel young you can just buy one of those and save some cash.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 30 Apr 15:27
I am absolutely raging at the cost of a season ticket in a stand I don`t sit in and never have. Sack everyone
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Sun 30 Apr 15:32
On another note, the default now is to use the app. I don`t know if anyone else trialled it, but it`s beyond useless. Doesn`t work offline and seeing as there is zero connectivity at match time, you can`t open it at the stadium.
Only time I got it to work was opening the app at home first.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 30 Apr 15:37
I find 4g coverage at EEP patchy at best!
Don't see how they cannot put new sub on existing plastic card?
For us oldies!
Post Edited (Sun 30 Apr 15:39)
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sun 30 Apr 15:44
You can still ask for a card, says that on the article
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Sun 30 Apr 15:53
Quote:
doctordandruff, Sun 30 Apr 15:32
On another note, the default now is to use the app. I don`t know if anyone else trialled it, but it`s beyond useless. Doesn`t work offline and seeing as there is zero connectivity at match time, you can`t open it at the stadium.
Only time I got it to work was opening the app at home first.
I’ve not used a plastic season ticket all year. Just take a screenshot of the barcode/QR code and it works perfectly
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 30 Apr 15:59
Quote:
The Boss, Sun 30 Apr 14:16
So how is charging our fans more than other fans in the championship helping us attract better players? We got relegated last season for Christ sake!
Do you want our manager to have an advantage over other Championship clubs when trying to attract players? Serious question.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 16:08
Did we have an advantage when we were one of the most expensive season tickets in the championship the last time? Serious question.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: davepars
Date: Sun 30 Apr 16:15
Do you think our manager have an advantage in terms of a larger warchest to attract better players? Serious question.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 16:18
Overcharging our fans hasn’t resulted in much success over the past 5 years.
Who knows how much money was lost by mismanagement though.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 30 Apr 16:27
But how do you achieve an improvement without increasing the manager`s budget? The present manager has proved to be quite astute in the transfer and loan market. Why punish him for the failure of his predecessors? It doesn`t make any sense.
Post Edited (Sun 30 Apr 16:47)
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Sun 30 Apr 16:53
Does anyone know when the shop will start selling them.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Sun 30 Apr 16:56
Quote:
eastendalloapar, Sun 30 Apr 16:53
Does anyone know when the shop will start selling them.
Wednesday
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 16:59
But will this increase his budget or will it be going somewhere else? I don’t think we’ve ever looked like gaining an advantage over any team when in the championship.
Also, as I’ve said above it hasn’t made any difference in the past. We’ve been one of the most expensive teams to watch and it hasn’t transferred onto the football pitch. We’ve been served up mediocre seasons followed by a relegation. So will fleecing our fans more money make any difference.
We’re a championship/league 1 club charging “some of our fans” near premier league prices.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sun 30 Apr 17:01
The Boss………
Raith - They’re £300 for all stands this current season.
….but there is no mention of what next years price will be, with inflation running at 10% I very much doubt their ST will be the same price.
IMO £315 is a fair price in the current financial climate.
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Sun 30 Apr 17:08
Raith`s stands are ridiculous tho. The main stand is awful & you can`t sit along the railway side so it`s pillars or behind the goals.
I`m more upset there`s not a finance option this year as I don`t have £300 to shell out just now!!
I thought £300 was a lot for 3rd tier, so I`m quite glad it`s only gone up £15.
COME ON YE PARS!
Post Edited (Sun 30 Apr 17:08)
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sun 30 Apr 18:31
Have we had a finance option since we went into administration?
Lump sum / one off payment will be a lot for people in the current climate.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Sun 30 Apr 18:33
Yes, there was a finance option for this seasons. Im sure it was a very good 0% offer at that, and spread over however many months suited the buyer as well.
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Topic Originator: PARSwede
Date: Sun 30 Apr 19:42
I too will miss the finance option. If I recollect it was 0% interest but a 10% service charge, or something like that...
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 30 Apr 19:49
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 30 Apr 16:27
But how do you achieve an improvement without increasing the manager`s budget? The present manager has proved to be quite astute in the transfer and loan market. Why punish him for the failure of his predecessors? It doesn`t make any sense.
It`s this in a nutshell. Imagine the conversation in the Boardroom
"James well done on winning the title and getting us back to the Championship at the first time of asking. Unfortunately you`re getting fk all cash next season because the previous BOD couldn`t run a bath.....comprende`"
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 30 Apr 20:02
Quote:
The Boss, Sun 30 Apr 16:59
But will this increase his budget or will it be going somewhere else? I don’t think we’ve ever looked like gaining an advantage over any team when in the championship.
Also, as I’ve said above it hasn’t made any difference in the past. We’ve been one of the most expensive teams to watch and it hasn’t transferred onto the football pitch. We’ve been served up mediocre seasons followed by a relegation. So will fleecing our fans more money make any difference.
We’re a championship/league 1 club charging “some of our fans” near premier league prices.
We are a championship/ league 1 club eh?
Is that where you want to stay or have you any ambition?
Raith £300 ... erm, where did they finish?
Does that give you a clue as to what will be required to compete in next years Championship.
You keep alluding to previous years when we know where the problems were. Maybe you slept all season and missed a few things
We have a new ambitious and capable management team who need proper funding to reach their goals.
You can either willingly be part of it or not. Your choice.
You appear to be in a minority of people who are not on board.
Post Edited (Sun 30 Apr 20:03)
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 20:13
So we have to raise our season tickets to the most expensive in the league for him to have a decent budget? Absolute nonsense.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 20:23
Obviously that’s not where I want us to be but that’s where we are and we’ve been there for a long time. So we have to be a little realistic.
As for the sleeping remark. I think you’ll find I go to most games. Do you actually have a season ticket Parrot?
The point I’m still making is why are we having to charge one of the highest season tickets in the league to make us competitive when other teams can do this by not fleecing their fans?
Livingston is a good example. I think their dearest is £325. I think they’re doing alright eh? I can bet they were a damn sight cheaper than ours when they were promoted through the playoffs to the premier league.
People can’t deny our fans are getting slightly ripped off for what we’ve been served up for the past 5 years or so.
I would also not be so quick to laugh at the Rovers for having a torrid season. Let’s just see where we end up this time next season.
And let’s see all these big players we’re going to attract by our manager having this big budget.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 30 Apr 20:26
Looks like you`ve given up already. Shut the door on your way out. You`ll not be missed
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 20:30
More nonsense from Da no1. There’s a surprise.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 20:31
Can’t debate, just tells supporters that go every week not to go back. Aye good one.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sun 30 Apr 20:38
I think you will find Livingston get a good backhander in the Premier league ?
certainly a lot more than the championship so they can afford to lower the price ?
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Topic Originator: SAP PAR
Date: Sun 30 Apr 20:40
If it was a massive rise I could see your point but you’re greeting about paying an extra £15. FFS get over yourself.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 20:52
I’m talking about Livingston before they made it to the premier league though. Their tickets just now a pretty good though. They could be fleecing their fans more probably.
The point wasn’t just about the £15 though. It’s about it being £345. Which is comparable to premier league clubs.
I’m obviously in the minority it seems though. I hope people are right above and we do have a decent budget to challenge for the title.
I’m just going on our previous record where we’ve charged one of most expensive season tickets and not looked like challenging.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 30 Apr 21:01
Quote:
The Boss, Sun 30 Apr 20:31
Can’t debate, just tells supporters that go every week not to go back. Aye good one.
Bye
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 30 Apr 21:02
[Post Deleted] - Rude or abusive message
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 30 Apr 21:07
Quote:
The Boss, Sun 30 Apr 21:02
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 30 Apr 21:01
Quote:
The Boss, Sun 30 Apr 20:31
Can’t debate, just tells supporters that go every week not to go back. Aye good one.
Bye
Moron
You`re the one who`s banging on about being "fleeced" like you`re being forced to pay these prices. If you think it`s too expensive here`s a thought......don`t buy one.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Sun 30 Apr 21:14
I’ve never really felt as though I’m being fleeced by the club. It costs what it costs to cover overheads and put a competitive team on the park. When I see players turning up in ferraris I’ll maybe question if the money I hand over is being well spent.
I’m actually more concerned that the PATG price for the Norrie has gone up to 21 quid. As someone who is accustomed to paying cash for a ticket in the wee kiosk I’m fretting about where I’m supposed to find a pound coin once a fortnight.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Sun 30 Apr 21:37
For context, here is 2022/23 Championship prices.
Arbroath £260
Ayr £285
Dundee: £375
Cove £300
Greenock £320
Accies £275
Caley £311
Partick £310
Queens Park £280
Rovers £300
These will all likely be higher next season, so I very much doubt we will be the dearest in the league.
Post Edited (Sun 30 Apr 21:41)
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Sun 30 Apr 22:57
The Boss has suggested in this thread that Pars fans are being "shafted", "fleeced" and "ripped off". These are quite serious allegations on the integrity of the directors and management of the club, and I really hope that on reflection he will reconsider his use of these terms.
As well as investing in the club and providing soft loans that they would never see back, none of the directors has taken any remuneration or dividend from the club. I think it`s the case that for several years they each paid for their season tickets and even for their blazers and ties - quite possibly that is still the case. Undoubtedly they made some mistakes which will have cost the club money (as does the Board of Directors of every football club) but to even hint at any dishonesty on their part is a low blow and a misplaced one at that.
I have no particular insight into the finances of DAFC, but there are some things that are more or less public knowledge.
1 For the last ten years, a huge amount of professional and technical expertise was provided to DAFC free of charge by directors and volunteers. That business model is gradually being replaced by the new ownership model, which now involves paying a salary (plus overheads) to a Chief Executive Officer, a Commercial Manager and possibly other posts now or in the future. While this is definitely a more sustainable model for an ambitious club, it inevitably costs more money.
2 It`s not as simple as saying that high admission prices must mean better (or even better-paid) players. Only a fraction of the club`s income is spent on player wages. Large sums of money are spent each year on maintaining and improving a fairly old stadium that was under-maintained for several years and is frankly too large for the crowds who attend. And these non-wage costs are probably increasing by around the rate of inflation, currently 10%.
3 The work done to improve EEP, as well as the provision of the new training ground, means that DAFC (and Pars fans) will enjoy one of the best venues in the Championship. It might even be the best - next season we might be visiting Global Energy Stadium, Lesser Hampden, Firhill, Somerset Park, Caledonian Stadium, Cappielow, Starks Park, Gayfield, and Indodrill Stadium, none of which compares favourably with EEP. I know the only thing many fans care about is results on the park, but in almost every branch of the leisure industry, better facilities require and attract higher prices.
DAFC has been able to announce season ticket prices now because we know what division we will be in next season. With a week to go until the season ends, more than half the clubs still don`t know which division they will be in next season - 5 out of 12 in the Premiership, 9 out of 10 in the Championship, 4 out of 10 in League One, 6 out of 10 in League Two. Only when all clubs issue their season ticket prices will a fair comparison be possible.
Post Edited (Sun 30 Apr 23:11)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 30 Apr 23:14
I`ve got to commend the pricing strategy here. I fall into the most expensive group, but I`m more than happy to pay this sort of price if it allows us to offer attractively priced season tickets to the young adults and younger fans. This is going to be the future, and if this pricing structure can help grow the fan base, then I`m all for it
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sun 30 Apr 23:18
Stanza has explained far more eloquently than I have the patience to but just to echo his point that most stadia we`ll visit next season are awful.
The older I get and the more experienced I get at helping run a business, the more I think running a football club must be one of the toughest gigs going. Extraordinarily variable income. Often little or no relationship between investment and return. Tonnes of other factors that I`m probably too tired to think of.
When it comes to ticket pricing, those running the club have to walk the tightrope of maximising income whilst being fair. The prices look broadly alright to me, albeit I can`t make enough games to ever justify getting one.
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Topic Originator: DulochConvert
Date: Sun 30 Apr 23:22
Stanza the Boss is just complaining for the sake of it, taking a kid to watch Mario at the cinema is more expensive than even walk up prices!
Life has become expensive and people need to decide what they want to spend it on and how much they can afford. The last season has been great so the enjoyment factor to expenditure has high, hopefully we can keep this going.
I did the cost of football survey for this season and I spent close to 2k for me and a U16, I understand that’s probably not feasible for most fans! I think in the coming years it’s going to be the way fan experience that will reduce.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 30 Apr 23:22
Notice that The Boss has disappeared since it was pointed out that Morton charged £320 last season to watch games in that utter dump of a fitba ground.
Great post Stanza
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle
Date: Sun 30 Apr 23:51
As DulochConvert says, life has become expensive. I’m paying 4 times more to BT for my broadband and BT sport. And I certainly don’t get any sense that we are being “shafted”. All things considered, worth it for the entertainment - just remember as the season progresses that we need the shade to appreciate the light that bit more :)
This is my signature
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 1 May 03:47
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 30 Apr 23:22
Notice that The Boss has disappeared since it was pointed out that Morton charged £320 last season to watch games in that utter dump of a fitba ground.
Great post Stanza
Maybe a friend took him aside and told him to stop making a tit out himself
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Topic Originator: NW 1966
Date: Mon 1 May 04:05
I`m happy to pay for mine and I do not think the club is ripping anyone off in any way whatsoever. The club has done a huge amount of good work since David Cook come in. Luckily he had the foundations to build on left by Ross McArthur. Ross intended to professionalise the club in specific areas and that is happening. The club want to build on commercial opportunities, and rightly so. The more cash we earn, the better things will be us longer term, assuming it is all done astutely with sustainability in mind. The thing I`d like to see is access for disabled supporters being sorted out soon, and hopefully that is done hand in hand with upgrading the hospitality & function areas, which is planned for soon I believe.
Post Edited (Mon 01 May 04:07)
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 1 May 06:24
Top post from Stanza further up and for all his greeting and misplaced anger, I reckon The Boss will buy his ST for next season, once he`s calmed down enough to reassess his complaints.
The bottom line is that everything, in every walk of life, is much more expensive today than it was 12 months ago. This inflation will be felt even more keenly by our club as a result of our promotion. As others have alluded, if we want to be competitive in the Championship and challenge for promotion, the manager will have to strengthen the squad. Better players will want better wages. Income in the Championship is still heavily reliant on gate receipts. A few seasons back, one of our directors explained that only £8 was left over from every paying adult, once all taxes were deducted, which illustrates just how difficult it is to balance the books.
Ironically, if we can make it back to the Premiership and establish ourselves like Motherwell, Livingston and St Johnstone, significant
Income from TV and other sources would allow the club to become less reliant on its own fans and ST prices could become relatively cheaper.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Mon 01 May 06:25)
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Mon 1 May 06:48
You’ve taken what I said out of context of what I’ve written in my posts. I can still have an opinion on this.
Some decent points Stanza but this is also what I’m trying to say. People above me were saying it’s giving a manager a ‘war chest’ to spend etc. When this isn’t the case. We’ve been quite an expensive season ticket for a while. Well for some of us it has been.
You’re making points like it’s going towards the upkeep of our old stadium. Which is fine but it’s totally different to what people are saying above.
On that list we’re just behind Dundee on most expensive. I’m sure you could get one for them for £350 at early bird stage though.
So we can wait to see what the full list of all clubs most expensive ticket. Then it’s a fair comparison but I can probably guess we’ll be at the higher end.
So we’re paying for years of mismanagement and an old stadium. I’ll sleep better tonight knowing that.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Mon 1 May 06:51
Quote:
PARrot, Mon 01 May 03:47
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 30 Apr 23:22
Notice that The Boss has disappeared since it was pointed out that Morton charged £320 last season to watch games in that utter dump of a fitba ground.
Great post Stanza
Maybe a friend took him aside and told him to stop making a tit out himself
You never actually answered if you had a season ticket btw? I assuming not by your silence.
And for admin, you’re allowed to call someone a ‘tit’ but not a ‘moron’ ?
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Mon 1 May 06:53
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 30 Apr 23:22
Notice that The Boss has disappeared since it was pointed out that Morton charged £320 last season to watch games in that utter dump of a fitba ground.
Great post Stanza
No disappearing here. Your point is?
My season ticket cost £329 in league 1!
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Mon 1 May 06:54
Pricing for kids, young adults etc is outstanding and will pay huge dividends for the Club in years to come.
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: NW 1966
Date: Mon 1 May 07:20
"So we’re paying for years of mismanagement and an old stadium. I’ll sleep better tonight knowing that"
That old stadium might not have been there due to chronic mismanagement. We`re all stakeholders in this club, for now and for the future. I really don`t think there`s much to complain about as a fan just now. We`re on the verge of something exciting, building for the future, hopefully a successful future.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Mon 1 May 10:42
Quote:
The Boss, Mon 1 May 06:53
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 30 Apr 23:22
Notice that The Boss has disappeared since it was pointed out that Morton charged £320 last season to watch games in that utter dump of a fitba ground.
Great post Stanza
No disappearing here. Your point is?
My season ticket cost £329 in league 1!
I’m not being funny, but if it’s too expensive, why do you continue to by the most expensive tickets we offer? You’re then comparing to the cheapest prices at other clubs, which isn’t really a like-for-like comparison. You’re also comparing their 2022 prices to our 2023 prices, when I can guarantee that the vast majority of clubs are increasing their prices next season - I’d imagine quite a few will increase by more than the 5% that we have.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Mon 1 May 10:53
Quote:
NW 1966, Mon 01 May 07:20
"So we’re paying for years of mismanagement and an old stadium. I’ll sleep better tonight knowing that"
That old stadium might not have been there due to chronic mismanagement. We`re all stakeholders in this club, for now and for the future. I really don`t think there`s much to complain about as a fan just now. We`re on the verge of something exciting, building for the future, hopefully a successful future.[/quote
I’m not though. I’m comparing their most expensive to ours.
Falkirk for example this season was £320 full price but they also had an early bird. What happened to our early bird.
It’s not a stretch to ask why we are paying the most when it doesn’t necessarily equate to a better team. This season it has but not in previous. So why then? Because we have a stadium that needs greater upkeep etc.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Mon 1 May 10:57
I mean that’s fine if that’s the case but to pretend it’s giving our manager advantage over the rest is nonsense.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Mon 1 May 12:22
Was going to renew online but trying to get back to the 1940s with the calender is a task.
Will just go to the shop to renew.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Mon 1 May 14:24
Quote:
The Boss, Mon 1 May 10:57
I mean that’s fine if that’s the case but to pretend it’s giving our manager advantage over the rest is nonsense.
I agree with that point. It’s not that it gives our manager any advantage at all. Our board have openly spoken about the very high maintenance costs of our stadium for a number of years now. That’s honestly likely to be the main reason that our ticket prices remained £20 in League 1, which was higher than the rest of the league.
But I still think you’re (perhaps deliberately?) ignoring the fact that you’re using main stand prices to make your point. As far as I’m aware, there’s not a like-for-like price at any other club in the championship. It’s obviously our ‘premium’ option. Feel free to prove me wrong, but I don’t think any of the prices used for comparison include padded seats. If they only have one pricing category, you should be comparing that with the prices for the rest of the stadium.
You’re choosing to pay extra for the padded/premium seating option, rather than going for a standard seat. If you don’t want to pay for a premium seat, don’t. If you choose to pay more for a premium seat, don’t complain about other seats being cheaper/more affordable.
As I’ve said as well, you’re also comparing their 2022 prices to our 2023 prices. Which is clearly not a fair comparison.
It’s also worth noting that I think it was 2017 or 2018 we raised our prices to £20 to bring them in line with the rest of the league. This is the first price increase we’ve had in 5/6 years. You would be very hard-pushed to find anything else that has only seen a 5% price increase in the last 5 years. The club are well within their rights to increase prices, as their costs will be much higher than they were when they first started charging £20.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 1 May 14:59
If I`ve missed it apologies, but what`s the age limit for Young Adult tickets? (Definitely not for me BTW!)
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Mon 1 May 15:19
Quote:
par-91, Mon 01 May 14:24
Quote:
The Boss, Mon 1 May 10:57
I mean that’s fine if that’s the case but to pretend it’s giving our manager advantage over the rest is nonsense.
I agree with that point. It’s not that it gives our manager any advantage at all. Our board have openly spoken about the very high maintenance costs of our stadium for a number of years now. That’s honestly likely to be the main reason that our ticket prices remained £20 in League 1, which was higher than the rest of the league.
But I still think you’re (perhaps deliberately?) ignoring the fact that you’re using main stand prices to make your point. As far as I’m aware, there’s not a like-for-like price at any other club in the championship. It’s obviously our ‘premium’ option. Feel free to prove me wrong, but I don’t think any of the prices used for comparison include padded seats. If they only have one pricing category, you should be comparing that with the prices for the rest of the stadium.
You’re choosing to pay extra for the padded/premium seating option, rather than going for a standard seat. If you don’t want to pay for a premium seat, don’t. If you choose to pay more for a premium seat, don’t complain about other seats being cheaper/more affordable.
As I’ve said as well, you’re also comparing their 2022 prices to our 2023 prices. Which is clearly not a fair comparison.
It’s also worth noting that I think it was 2017 or 2018 we raised our prices to £20 to bring them in line with the rest of the league. This is the first price increase we’ve had in 5/6 years. You would be very hard-pushed to find anything else that has only seen a 5% price increase in the last 5 years. The club are well within their rights to increase prices, as their costs will be much higher than they were when they first started charging £20.
You’re right, I’m using the main stand because that is our most expensive ticket. I did say above I’ll wait and compare all prices when they’re up.
My comparison against Falkirk was for this season where my ticket works out more expensive than theirs. That is also for their main stand.
I thought this would be fair to compare our pricing structure to our competitors.
I don’t think the club sell tickets as premium season tickets. Nowhere in the years I have been sitting there it has been sold as a premium seats Probably because it’s not exactly a premium seat if you get my drift. Pillars,hard to see near side corner flags etc.
Someone said above I’ll probably be renewing anyway. They are probably right but it doesn’t stop me not being overly impressed by it. That’s where the club has got you. They can really do what they want with pricing and people will just pay. No questions asked. That’s the problem with supporters who don’t miss games.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Mon 1 May 15:30
What is the age bracket of “young adult” ?
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Mon 1 May 16:21
Quote:
Ianoappar, Mon 1 May 12:22
Was going to renew online but trying to get back to the 1940s with the calender is a task.
Will just go to the shop to renew.
I think it`s now the standard way of online calendar.
You can click on the year to change the decades rather than loads of clicks.
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Topic Originator: charlie1
Date: Mon 1 May 17:10
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 1 May 14:59
If I`ve missed it apologies, but what`s the age limit for Young Adult tickets? (Definitely not for me BTW!)
It`s under 18
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 1 May 17:42
Do you think the shop would let you in the stadium to allow you to pick your seat?
In the Main Stand, thinking of moving to NW but don’t want to pick a seat blocked by pillars.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Mon 1 May 18:06
You’ll be used to pillars blocking your view by now surely berry 😂
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Mon 1 May 18:41
Quote:
The Boss, Mon 1 May 15:19
I don’t think the club sell tickets as premium season tickets. Nowhere in the years I have been sitting there it has been sold as a premium seats Probably because it’s not exactly a premium seat if you get my drift. Pillars,hard to see near side corner flags etc.
They’re more expensive because they’re seen as our ‘premium’ tickets. If they didn’t see these as the best seats, they wouldn’t be more expensive, it’s as simple as that.
My point stands. You pay more, knowing that it’s more expensive, to sit in a padded seat in the main stand. If you’re not happy to do that, pay for a ‘standard’ seat.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Mon 1 May 18:43
Quote:
charlie1, Mon 1 May 17:10
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 1 May 14:59
If I`ve missed it apologies, but what`s the age limit for Young Adult tickets? (Definitely not for me BTW!)
It`s under 18
No it’s not. U18 tickets, the age limit is under 18. Young adult is 18-21.
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Topic Originator: Bazzler1981
Date: Mon 1 May 20:17
Berry - is that you being a cheapskate and denying our club an extra £30?? We’ll no be signing Haaland now 😢
Mind nae boiled sweets or tartan covers in the NW 🤣🤣
Post Edited (Mon 01 May 20:29)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 1 May 20:59
Quote:
The Boss, Mon 1 May 06:51
Quote:
PARrot, Mon 01 May 03:47
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 30 Apr 23:22
Notice that The Boss has disappeared since it was pointed out that Morton charged £320 last season to watch games in that utter dump of a fitba ground.
Great post Stanza
Maybe a friend took him aside and told him to stop making a tit out himself
You never actually answered if you had a season ticket btw? I assuming not by your silence.
And for admin, you’re allowed to call someone a ‘tit’ but not a ‘moron’ ?
The problem with posting something that is controversial is one is guaranteed a large number of responses which, if one takes offence easily or feels a need to defend oneself from every comment, can put one under a wee bit pressure.
When that happens depending on how much spare time one has to spend on a daft forum, it becomes more likely that responses are not carefully considered before replying.
I was not laughing at Raith for their league position. I simply pointed out that what they charged wasn`t enough to finance a succesfull squad.
You keep alluding to previous seasons during which we made some well discussed bad management decisions. Do you think this should curb our ambition now that we appear to have a management team in place that can be trusted to use the funds to better effect?
Do we stick in the past or sieze the day?
Regarding the season ticket Some seasons I buy one and some I don`t. It depends on my work schedule and whether it includes weekends. Currently I am in Vancouver so no season ticket. If I am home in time for the start of the next season, and not working weekends, I will probably buy one.
There really is a significant difference between calling someone a mo**n and saying someone made a tit out themselves on a specific occasion.
Post Edited (Mon 01 May 21:02)
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Tue 2 May 07:37
Quote:
PARrot, Mon 01 May 20:59
Quote:
The Boss, Mon 1 May 06:51
Quote:
PARrot, Mon 01 May 03:47
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 30 Apr 23:22
Notice that The Boss has disappeared since it was pointed out that Morton charged £320 last season to watch games in that utter dump of a fitba ground.
Great post Stanza
Maybe a friend took him aside and told him to stop making a tit out himself
You never actually answered if you had a season ticket btw? I assuming not by your silence.
And for admin, you’re allowed to call someone a ‘tit’ but not a ‘moron’ ?
The problem with posting something that is controversial is one is guaranteed a large number of responses which, if one takes offence easily or feels a need to defend oneself from every comment, can put one under a wee bit pressure.
When that happens depending on how much spare time one has to spend on a daft forum, it becomes more likely that responses are not carefully considered before replying.
I was not laughing at Raith for their league position. I simply pointed out that what they charged wasn`t enough to finance a succesfull squad.
You keep alluding to previous seasons during which we made some well discussed bad management decisions. Do you think this should curb our ambition now that we appear to have a management team in place that can be trusted to use the funds to better effect?
Do we stick in the past or sieze the day?
Regarding the season ticket Some seasons I buy one and some I don`t. It depends on my work schedule and whether it includes weekends. Currently I am in Vancouver so no season ticket. If I am home in time for the start of the next season, and not working weekends, I will probably buy one.
There really is a significant difference between calling someone a mo**n and saying someone made a tit out themselves on a specific occasion.
To be fair though, his response was moronic. No discussion, just nonsense.
So I’m able to call you a ‘tit’ as much as I like? That’s fine. I’m glad you cleared that up. I personally don’t think there is much difference but I’m obviously upsetting the .net clique. Both are basically putting someone down.
I don’t particularly see it as controversial saying we’re getting charged a bit extra and asking the question why? That seems to
Be the problem with modern society though. People can’t respect someone else’s opinion. They have to put them down or out shout them. Everyone has to follow the same line and agree. You certainly won’t change my mind on this.
So you’re saying Raith can’t have a successful season by not overcharging their fans? Again I’m coming back to the point it doesn’t matter that we’re charging the one of the most expensive. It isn’t going to necessarily be transferable to the football pitch. As people have pointed out to me above. We’re paying for a an old stadium etc. That’s you saying unless they charge their fans the most they can’t have a successful season. Which obviously incorrect as they seemed to have had a pretty decent season the year before.
I’ve also said we can come back to this post when the finalised prices are out for all teams.
I’m also not alluding to previous seasons. I’m alluding to this current season with Falkirk as an example. If you read it again.
Like what you’re saying I don’t have a lot of time to sit on a forum but I obviously have to try and defend myself to some people who don’t even go to games.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Tue 2 May 11:01
Is anyone able to renew the under 12 one online yet? Still not seeing option from my end.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Wed 3 May 14:29
got mine this lunch time - stuck with the plastic card as cannot get a signal at EEP on my phone at all
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Wed 3 May 15:45
I think I may be in Dunfermline next Tuesday or Thursday. Ideal time to renew my season ticket. Can someone advise if club shop will be open on these days and if so what the opening hours are?
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Wed 3 May 15:50
Got mine renewed this morning at EEP
Post Edited (Wed 03 May 15:51)
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Wed 3 May 15:52
To answer my own question, looks like Mondays to Saturdays 9am to 5.30pm. Does that continue every week after season`s end?
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Topic Originator: Ormiston_Par
Date: Wed 3 May 15:54
Is anyone able to renew the under 12 one online yet? Still not seeing option from my end.
That`s not working for me either - it seems happy to let me renew my own season ticket and the one I bought last season for a friend of mine, but the one I bought for my son doesn`t appear for renewal.
Helpful.
The artist formerly known as KGB / Slim Hoolie
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Wed 3 May 15:57
From COWS
Our Club Shop/Ticket Office will be open from Wednesday 3rd May then as follows: Tuesday to Friday 10am to 4pm and Saturday 10am to noon. (Please note the shop will be closed on Tuesday 10th May 2023)
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Wed 3 May 16:59
Quote:
Ormiston_Par, Wed 3 May 15:54
Is anyone able to renew the under 12 one online yet? Still not seeing option from my end.
That`s not working for me either - it seems happy to let me renew my own season ticket and the one I bought last season for a friend of mine, but the one I bought for my son doesn`t appear for renewal.
Helpful.
Yeah that is same issue I`m having. Can renew oldest son and mine but no option for my youngest.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 3 May 17:32
Seems to be an issue ,with the web site ,where can`t change the type of ticket while keeping the same seat ☹️
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 3 May 20:54
Quote:
Ormiston_Par, Wed 3 May 15:54
Is anyone able to renew the under 12 one online yet? Still not seeing option from my end.
That`s not working for me either - it seems happy to let me renew my own season ticket and the one I bought last season for a friend of mine, but the one I bought for my son doesn`t appear for renewal.
Helpful.
Aye right Hoolie, the only time you are gonny pass for under 12 is when you post on here.
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Topic Originator: Ormiston_Par
Date: Wed 3 May 22:09
If that`s an attempt at humour PARrot, you`re going to have to explain it to me because it makes absolutely no sense. I stated quite clearly the U12 ticket was for my son.
Incidentally, the website now appears to have been fixed and U12 tickets are able to be renewed. All good.
The artist formerly known as KGB / Slim Hoolie
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 3 May 22:23
Quote:
PARrot, Wed 3 May 20:54
Quote:
Ormiston_Par, Wed 3 May 15:54
Is anyone able to renew the under 12 one online yet? Still not seeing option from my end.
That`s not working for me either - it seems happy to let me renew my own season ticket and the one I bought last season for a friend of mine, but the one I bought for my son doesn`t appear for renewal.
Helpful.
Aye right Hoolie, the only time you are gonny pass for under 12 is when you post on here.
😉😄
I misread it. I thought the bold was you and someone replied. Im a wee bit distracted.
Ill try harder 😁
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Topic Originator: DulochConvert
Date: Thu 4 May 04:52
Going into the shop was always my preferred option when trying to renew mine kids ones, was in today and enjoyed my handshake. Looking forward to next season.
Was also impressed at the new range of clothing, looks like the start of something big going.
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Topic Originator: NW 1966
Date: Thu 4 May 06:33
If you`re fortunate enough to be able to purchase a season ticket then I cannot understand why you wouldn`t. With so many positives about the club just now it`s a good deal for a Pars fan.
Unless you`re just a tight wad right enough, and are just saving up to leave it all to a Donkey charity (nothing wrong with Donkeys).
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Thu 4 May 09:55
I`ve been in shop got my season ticket,nice wee blether with Dave and of course the hand shake.COYP.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Thu 4 May 12:37
Should be an option on the form online to request a handshake.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 15 May 23:28
Over 1,000 sold already.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 18 May 18:07
The NW stand is almost sold out according to COWS with fewer than 40 STs available now.
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Topic Originator: LesliePar
Date: Thu 18 May 18:23
It`s worth pointing out that it`s 40 unreserved seats remaining, anyone with an existing season ticket in the NW has until the 1st July to keep the seat.
COYP!
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Thu 18 May 18:26
What`s the deadline for renewing and keeping your seat?
I`ve clicked on the link in the recent email but it doesn`t say and can`t find it in old emails.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Thu 18 May 18:35
Deadline for keeping your seat is July 1st
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Thu 18 May 18:41
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Thu 18 May 18:35
Deadline for keeping your seat is July 1st
Ta.
So, if it sells out in the next couple of weeks, more might becoming available then. Hopefully not mine.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: NikNakPar
Date: Thu 18 May 20:34
I`m assuming some seats in the NW will be held back for PATG?
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Thu 18 May 20:36
Quote:
NikNakPar, Thu 18 May 20:34
I`m assuming some seats in the NW will be held back for PATG?
No. All seats are available for season tickets. So if it sells out, no single match tickets will be available for that stand.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 2 Jun 16:50
Sales have now reached 2,000.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Fri 2 Jun 17:02
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wee eck, Fri 2 Jun 16:50
Sales have now reached 2,000.
Really good numbers at this early stage. Still another 2 paydays before the league season starts as well.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Fri 2 Jun 18:23
Anyone know if & when the ticket office is open tomorrow?
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Topic Originator: charlie1
Date: Fri 2 Jun 18:27
It`s shut till Tuesday next week
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