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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Wed 10 May 19:58
BBC Sport Scotland reporting "gossip" that Millwall, Bristol City and Blackburn are now tracking Nisbet, with Millwall preparing a 2nd bid.
Post Edited (Wed 10 May 20:02)
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 10 May 20:01
Blackburn would be the move if I was him.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Wed 10 May 20:03
Personally I Dont care where he goes, biggest fee suits our club.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Wed 10 May 22:04
Pretty selfish attitude there FA1968 but I would second that.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Wed 10 May 23:42
A huge wad of cash for the club would be the icing on the cake to a great season.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 11 May 07:50
Quote:
Paralex, Wed 10 May 22:04
Pretty selfish attitude there FA1968 but I would second that.
Isn’t that the attitude that players make - follow the money ?
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Thu 11 May 08:40
Not particularly bothered where he goes either providing we get maximum payout but figured being a forum might be worth discussing which team might be more beneficial for his development as well.
Blackburn playing alongside Bereton Diaz I think would be a decent gig for him.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Thu 11 May 08:57
Ha well there goes that plan! Still a better option I’d have thought out of the three. Millwall also float up near the playoffs but to be associated with them I’m not sure is a great thing.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Thu 11 May 12:25
Have to admit, I`ve always wondered other than the money, why would anyone want to go and play in some of these s***hole places in England rather than move abroad to play in Germany, Spain or Italy.
Bristol isn`t bad but London or Blackburn compared to say Freiburg, Augsburg etc or some of the smaller clubs in Italy...no brainer for me. Actually reckon Bundesliga could be a good fit for Nisbet in terms of style of play.
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Thu 11 May 13:00
The fact there are 3 clubs in can only drive the fee up. Just hope he picks the biggest offer
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Thu 11 May 13:50
He`s only going to have a year on his contract now so even with the interest that`s there I don`t think they are likely to get more than the rumoured £2m + add ons touted last time.
Not a bad amount for us though if the sell on % is really at the 40% mark.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 11 May 13:52
I read that Galatasaray were in the mix too, but I`m not sure if there is any truth in it.Lucky to get a million for him now though?
Post Edited (Thu 11 May 13:53)
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Thu 11 May 14:31
London is many things, but it definitely isn`t a sh*thole.
I do think Blackburn would be the best move for him football-wise, and there`s a Bremerton-Diaz shaped hole for him to fill there, so a good chance to get paid a decent whack and get regular first team football, without moving too far away from home, or having to learn a new language.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 11 May 14:43
Quote:
hurricane_jimmy, Thu 11 May 12:25
Have to admit, I`ve always wondered other than the money, why would anyone want to go and play in some of these s***hole places in England rather than move abroad to play in Germany, Spain or Italy.
Bristol isn`t bad but London or Blackburn compared to say Freiburg, Augsburg etc or some of the smaller clubs in Italy...no brainer for me. Actually reckon Bundesliga could be a good fit for Nisbet in terms of style of play.
Nonsense, London would be a wonderful place to live for someone with a high income
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Thu 11 May 16:15
Quote:
parathletic, Thu 11 May 13:52
I read that Galatasaray were in the mix too, but I`m not sure if there is any truth in it.Lucky to get a million for him now though?
I was trying to be optimistic with the £2 but realistically it might well be closer to the £1m mark.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 11 May 17:46
It depends WHERE in London you are as well as your income. There were various stories/rumours about Millwall. I can`t imagine he showed up and thought "this is a dump" as he`d have checked in advance.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 11 May 18:13
I`m pretty sure that, even in the lower leagues, footballers are more likely to be living in the leafy suburbs rather than grim inner city areas. If they want the bright lights they won`t be far away. I`m sure Hearts used to accommodate players in the New Town and maybe still do.
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Thu 11 May 18:26
If memory serves me, at the peak of his scoring when he first went to Hibs, Birmingham offered Hibs somewhere in the region of 3.5 mil. They will get nowhere near that now he only has one year left and is injury prone. Doesn`t get chosen for Scotland now either. Hibs will be doing well to get 1.5 mil for him.
Top of the league looking down on the F*lkirk!
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 11 May 19:24
Quote:
EastEndTales, Thu 11 May 19:06
Just sell to the highest bidder please even if its Falkirk with their massive fanbase.
Doesn`t matter who the highest bidder is-he needs to want to go there.He could sit tight until January and sign a pre-contract for no fee.Hibs have been stung recently with Porteous so I think they may be reluctant to refuse any offers unless they are prepared to lose him for nothing.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 11 May 22:23
Quote:
parathletic, Thu 11 May 19:24
Quote:
EastEndTales, Thu 11 May 19:06
Just sell to the highest bidder please even if its Falkirk with their massive fanbase.
Doesn`t matter who the highest bidder is-he needs to want to go there.He could sit tight until January and sign a pre-contract for no fee.Hibs have been stung recently with Porteous so I think they may be reluctant to refuse any offers unless they are prepared to lose him for nothing.
If he stays in Scotland, I won’t be expecting anything over a million. Maybe 2 if he goes down south.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 11 May 22:29
Anything we get is surely better than nothing?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Fri 12 May 11:38
He`s Scottish so will be undervalued by default anyway. Blackburn would be a decent move though.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 12 May 12:19
"If he stays in Scotland, I won’t be expecting anything over a million. Maybe 2 if he goes down south."
Only two clubs up here who can look at a million, and neither of them is likely to go after KN.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 12 May 12:58
I thought I was hearing things last night when it was said that Declan Rice would be valued at £120 million !!!
Getting ridiculous now 🤔😲😲😲
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Fri 12 May 15:47
Rice is a seriously good player - you don`t notice it so much because he`s playing an unfashionable role, in an unfashionable team (both club and international) but he`s very very very good.
he`s never worth 100m+ - but that`s a combination of a couple of things - firstly the `English homegrown Tax`, which is worth something because of the rules on squad sizes, and also the fact that some clubs (Chelsea in particular) have massively inflated the market by paying ridiculous fees for good, but not exceptional, players (Mudryk, Fernandez) etc...
they won`t get 100m+ for Rice, but don`t be surprised if he goes for £80m+. He`s miles more a player than Harry McGuire...
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Fri 12 May 16:22
Watched Rice at the World Cup and he looked like he was running through treacle at times-seems to be sought after though.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 13 May 01:05
I think Rice is a really top player. Plenty clubs would like to be able to afford him
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 13 May 02:15
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 13 May 01:05
I think Rice is a really top player. Plenty clubs would like to be able to afford him
Id rather have Gary Mason
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Sat 13 May 04:40
I wonder how much Declan Rice would be valued at if he had continued to play for the Republic Of Ireland? On a slightly different not, he’s apparently a sound guy who is good with fans, and the young kids coming through so good luck to him. I like my footballers to have some basic traits of a decent human.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 13 May 16:44
Misses penalty against Aberdeen. 2 million off prospective transfer fee.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Sat 13 May 17:18
He’s missed a fair few penalties at hibs, surprised he’s still allowed to take them.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Wed 24 May 04:38
According to several news sources today, some movement on the Kevin Nisbet front could occur in the next few days. Millwall, Bristol City and Blackburn are said to be back on the scene preparing bids.
We`ve had a few false starts over this, but this time, even Nisbet is talking like a transfer is imminent.
First, we got the news that KRH is back from Rangers, and now the club could be pocketing several hundred thousand smackeroos thanks to a Nisbet transfer...
Right now, our cup runneth over.
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Topic Originator: SAP PAR
Date: Wed 24 May 12:56
He said in yesterdays press conference that he expects tonight to be his last game at Easter road.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Wed 24 May 21:25
Scored a penalty to make it 2-2 against Celtic
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Sat 27 May 13:45
Just scored with a freekick against Hearts
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 29 May 12:53
Back in the Scotland squad for the Euro qualifiers against Norway and Georgia :-
Goalkeepers: Zander Clark (Heart of Midlothian), Angus Gunn (Norwich City), Liam Kelly (Motherwell).
Defenders: Liam Cooper (Leeds United), Jack Hendry (Club Brugge), Aaron Hickey (Brentford), Dominic Hyam (Blackburn Rovers), Nathan Patterson (Everton), Ryan Porteous (Watford), Anthony Ralston (Celtic), Andy Robertson (Liverpool), John Souttar (Rangers), Greg Taylor (Celtic), Kieran Tierney (Arsenal).
Midfielders: Stuart Armstrong (Southampton), Lewis Ferguson (Bologna), Billy Gilmour (Brighton & Hove Albion), Ryan Jack (Rangers), John McGinn (Aston Villa), Callum McGregor (Celtic), Kenny McLean (Norwich City), Scott McTominay (Manchester United).
Forwards: Ryan Christie (Bournemouth), Lyndon Dykes (Queens Park Rangers), Kevin Nisbet (Hibernian), Lawrence Shankland (Heart of Midlothian).
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 29 May 14:00
Gone are the days when Celtic and Rangers players dominate the Scotland team.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Mon 29 May 14:15
And gone are the days when players from top English clubs dominated the Scottish team! Only Tierney, McTominay and Robertson are in that category.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 29 May 14:26
...and Tierney and McTominay can hardly get a start!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 30 May 01:31
We could do with a good goalie
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Tue 30 May 06:03
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 30 May 01:31
We could do with a good goalie
Gunn did fine last 2 games.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Wed 31 May 18:38
Kev`s away on holiday. Don`t think he`s too ecstatic about joining Millwall. I think he`s secretly hoping an offer from a more prestigious club comes in. Might have a long wait there Kev. Don`t count the pennies yet lads, our coffers may take some time yet to get any enhancement from Kev`s direction.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 31 May 20:21
There are other bids apparently
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 31 May 21:17
I`d rather go to Preston or just about anywhere else tbh. Maybe to a team who have recently shown they can develop players or buy and sell on. Not sure Millwall are a good stepping stone, through promotion or transfer, to the premier league.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Wed 31 May 21:31
Quote:
Jeffery, Wed 31 May 21:17
I`d rather go to Preston or just about anywhere else tbh. Maybe to a team who have recently shown they can develop players or buy and sell on. Not sure Millwall are a good stepping stone, through promotion or transfer, to the premier league.
Not sure because...... you have no idea about how Millwall run their club ??
Is it just based on a history of mental fans ??
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 31 May 22:56
Quote:
alwaysaPar, Wed 31 May 21:31
Quote:
Jeffery, Wed 31 May 21:17
I`d rather go to Preston or just about anywhere else tbh. Maybe to a team who have recently shown they can develop players or buy and sell on. Not sure Millwall are a good stepping stone, through promotion or transfer, to the premier league.
Not sure because...... you have no idea about how Millwall run their club ??
Is it just based on a history of mental fans ??
I didn`t mention mental fans?
They`ve not been in the top league for 30 years so if I was gambling I wouldn`t be betting on them going up, you never know though given what Luton have done.
Had an admittedly very quick skim of their transfers and I don`t see players leaving for big money or going to bigger clubs.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Thu 1 Jun 00:50
Is he going under contract from hibs or as a free agent, I read recently that his contract is about to end
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Thu 1 Jun 02:33
Contract expires at the end of next season so it`s likely Hibs will cash in this window.
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Topic Originator: DulochConvert
Date: Thu 1 Jun 04:38
I think we will get nothing from this guy, said it the last 18 months. He will run his contract down, the guy is a xxxx, demanding the hibs move after only 5 months told us everything.
I can see him signing a agreement for 2024-25 when the next season starts with a lower premiership side at Xmas, as a free option he will be a easy punt.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Thu 1 Jun 12:46
The guy is a xxxx for trying to secure himself a decent future and get some money saved up from what is a very short career? He`s not exactly a top EPL player on 2 hundred grand a week.
He owes us and Hibs absolutely nothing and has every right to run down his contract if he so wishes.
I honestly think he will leave though as he`s only getting older so this summer could possibly be his best chance at a decent move.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 1 Jun 12:52
He openly said that he was likely to have played his last game at Easter Road. Doesn`t sound like someone looking to run down his contract.
Hibs also accepted an offer in January and lost Porteous for relative pennies, so they are unlikely to be trying to keep him.
In short, there doesn`t seem much evidence to support DulochConvert`s prophesy.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Thu 1 Jun 13:20
Hibs have accepted a bid (reported to be 1.2m) for Nisbet from Milwall
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Topic Originator: FRED1981
Date: Thu 1 Jun 13:50
If he goes that will be 450k for us then hopefully.
F muller
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Thu 1 Jun 14:35
Have the board actually stated what the % sell on is at anytime?
I`d have guessed it would be more likely to be somewhere between the £240k to £300k mark. Edited to add obviously based on the £1.2m quote above.
Post Edited (Thu 01 Jun 14:36)
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 1 Jun 14:45
just been put on their site.
"The Evening News can exclusively reveal the offer is £2.2 million including add-ons. The deal also includes a sell-on clause"
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 1 Jun 15:20
If 2.2m is correct then that`s tremendous news for us and brilliant negotiation by Hibs.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Thu 1 Jun 15:29
I wonder if we would we get a % of the sell on fee if he kicks on from Millwall as well?
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Thu 1 Jun 15:32
It has been widely reported in the past that our sell-on cut is 30%. If this is true, the club might ultimately see about 700k from this deal. Even if you subtract the add-ons, which likely will be based on games played, goals scored, etc., DAFC might be banking 500k now, which would be fantastic. A real game-changer for the club.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Thu 1 Jun 15:36
It would depend on the extent of the Commercial exploitation arrangements - I.e. whether it is a % of the initial transfer fee, or a % of the transfer fee plus any profits made by Hibs.
Of course, none of us actually know what the deal consists of, so it is pointless speculating.
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Thu 1 Jun 15:50
We won`t know what the actual deal consists of, but I don`t think there has ever been a sell-on % in history based on the value of the original fee.
The whole point of the sell on clause is that if the buying club (in this case Hibs) sell the player at a profit that the selling club benefits from that. It makes zero sense for this to be based on the original fee.
It has been widely reported to be around 30% even from when the original transfer took place and some of those sources have been fairly close to the club. No point in posters saying they don`t know if the amount has been confirmed but based on absolutely no information whatsoever I think it must be x.
Let`s just accept that if the the sale does go through this transfer window that we`ll get a decent amount of money and be happy
Post Edited (Thu 01 Jun 16:16)
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Topic Originator: Digs
Date: Thu 1 Jun 16:26
It`s not been widely reported that it`s 30%, it`s been widely speculated. There is a world of difference.
I`ve heard form people I`d trust what it is but there`s no reason for me or anyone else to post a figure because the only folk that know for sure are our board, the Hibs board and Nisbet and his agent. Anyone else claiming otherwise is at it.
Stair Maistreas na Beatha
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Thu 1 Jun 16:27
He might just turn them down again and hold out for somewhere else...
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Thu 1 Jun 16:52
What part of "If this is true" do you not understand, Digs? Jeez...
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Thu 1 Jun 17:08
Quote:
OzPar, Thu 1 Jun 16:52
What part of "If this is true" do you not understand, Digs? Jeez...
So if you had said
`it has been widely speculated that the sell on fee is 30%, if this is true....`
Then maybe it would have been more factually correct.
Also another poster repeated your original comment further down.....
Digs knows exactly what it means, but he was commenting on the first part of your statement.....jeez......
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 1 Jun 17:42
It has been widely reported that its 30% the Edinburgh Evening News, The Courier and Daily Record have all reported 30%.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 1 Jun 17:55
"Record Sport understands the Lions’ offer which has been accepted by Easter Road chiefs involves an initial £1.4m fee which will be topped up with a further £800,000 through add-ons"
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Topic Originator: Samzak
Date: Thu 1 Jun 18:12
Quote:
RossF, Thu 01 Jun 15:29
I wonder if we would we get a % of the sell on fee if he kicks on from Millwall as well?
My belief is we will always get a sell on fee for every transfer payment made during his career
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Thu 1 Jun 18:15
Quote:
Samzak, Thu 1 Jun 18:12
Quote:
RossF, Thu 01 Jun 15:29
I wonder if we would we get a % of the sell on fee if he kicks on from Millwall as well?
My belief is we will always get a sell on fee for every transfer payment made during his career
That`s wrong, we get a share of any money Hibs get from their initial sale, plus any sell on or add on they might include in the deal. We will only ever be entitled to a share of any money that comes to Hibs.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 1 Jun 18:55
Quote:
sadindiefreak, Thu 1 Jun 18:15
Quote:
Samzak, Thu 1 Jun 18:12
Quote:
RossF, Thu 01 Jun 15:29
I wonder if we would we get a % of the sell on fee if he kicks on from Millwall as well?
My belief is we will always get a sell on fee for every transfer payment made during his career
That`s wrong, we get a share of any money Hibs get from their initial sale, plus any sell on or add on they might include in the deal. We will only ever be entitled to a share of any money that comes to Hibs.
So if hibs get a sell on fee from milwall we get a percentage of that
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 1 Jun 19:01
Under FIFA Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players, clubs are due a payment for any transfer fee for a player if they played a part in his development up until they were 23. He signed for us when he was 22, so yes. But not 30%.
Post Edited (Thu 01 Jun 19:02)
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 1 Jun 21:42
It`s nothing to do with that - it`s due to the sell on clause we negotiated when we sold him to Hibs.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 1 Jun 21:48
I`m talking about future transfers mate, not the current transfer.
Post Edited (Thu 01 Jun 21:53)
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Topic Originator: Hockeyboy
Date: Thu 1 Jun 22:07
This was discussed a few months back on The Price of Football podcastand they said that each agreement differs but the general rule is that the original club i.e. us, is entitled to a percentage of all profits on the subsequent sale including any future sell on percentage.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Thu 1 Jun 22:09
Quote:
Athletico, Thu 1 Jun 21:48
I`m talking about future transfers mate, not the current transfer.
But we’re entitled to 30% of any profit that Hibs make from him. So if Hibs have a sell on clause, we would get 30% of whatever they make from that clause.
I’d also add that sell on clauses are usually a % of profit. So if Hibs get £1.4m, you’d need to deduct the initial fee (reported around £250k I think?) and we’d get 30% of the profit they make. Would be very unusual to get 30% of the entire fee.
Post Edited (Thu 01 Jun 22:11)
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 1 Jun 22:30
Our agreement is with Hibs. For whatever the % is of the sale to Millwall or whoever, this will also likely include a % of future fees from add ons agreed with the buying club. There endeth the agreement.
We will not be entitled to any % of the sellon Hibs have agreed if he moves on from Millwall, as they would be utterly mental to include such a deal with us, and I would imagine has never been included on any transfer deal.
All we will be entitled to, as will Partick and Raith will be a small development fee as per the terms of the FIFA Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Thu 1 Jun 23:17
Quote:
Athletico, Thu 1 Jun 22:30
We will not be entitled to any % of the sellon Hibs have agreed if he moves on from Millwall, as they would be utterly mental to include such a deal with us, and I would imagine has never been included on any transfer deal.
That’s genuinely how the vast majority of sell-on clauses work though. A sell on clause is usually written in agreements as being a % of profit on future transfers. If they profit from a sell-on, they have to pass on the agreed %. Hence why St Mirren would benefit if Aston Villa sold McGinn. It would actually be very unusual for this not to be the case.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 1 Jun 23:21
I doubt anyone on here knows the terms of the deal, but I seem to recall when Liverpool signed Andy Robertson from Hull for £8,000,000, Dundee United go their cut, around £800,000, and Queens Park picked up 10% too.
I would imagine it would be possible to negotiate a deal based on all profits made from a player, so for example, Hibs sell Nesbit to Millwall for £1,000,000 upfront, with an extra £1,000,000 to be paid if he scores 20 goals, and Hibs have negotiated a sell on clause the same as ours at a reported 30%, then we would get £300,000 now, £300,000 when he hits 20 goals, and next summer when Millwall sell Nesbit to Fulham for £10,000,000, Hibs will pocket £3,000,000 and we will get £900,000 of the money they received.
It`s all just speculation though, I don`t know
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Fri 2 Jun 01:39
We got a sell-on fee from Hibs for Sol Bamba, did we not? But only once, as far as I am aware. Sol had several high-fee transfers in his career, but I don`t remember stories about the Pars directors dancing in the street when Sol went from Leeds to Cardiff, for example.
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Fri 2 Jun 07:11
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OzPar, Fri 2 Jun 01:39
We got a sell-on fee from Hibs for Sol Bamba, did we not? But only once, as far as I am aware. Sol had several high-fee transfers in his career, but I don`t remember stories about the Pars directors dancing in the street when Sol went from Leeds to Cardiff, for example.
Sol went from Leeds to Cardiff as a free agent so no transfer fee involved.
Hibs would have required a sell on clause or any add ons with Leicester for us to have gotten anything more. He was a free agent when he went from Leicester to Trabzonspor so any potential monies coming to us ended there.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Fri 2 Jun 08:06
"He was a free agent when he went from Leicester to Trabzonspor, so any potential monies coming to us ended there."
That would have been my reading of it, too, SIF. And I would imagine the same is likely to apply with KN. The sell-on clause is unlikely to run indefinitely across multi-transfers.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Fri 2 Jun 08:49
ANY money HIBS receive for Nisbet we will get a cut, regardless if its now or in future.
If that wasn`t the case Hibs could just sell him for £1 plus add-ons thus avoiding any payment to us.
We will only get ££ if Hibs recieve ££
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Fri 2 Jun 09:24
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OzPar, Fri 2 Jun 08:06
"He was a free agent when he went from Leicester to Trabzonspor, so any potential monies coming to us ended there."
That would have been my reading of it, too, SIF. And I would imagine the same is likely to apply with KN. The sell-on clause is unlikely to run indefinitely across multi-transfers.
You’re missing the key point - the money stopped because he left as a free agent. There was no transfer fee to get any money from. As I say, the wording in these clauses is usually a % of any profit they make. So if Hibs have a sell on clause/add-ons, we are entitled to whatever % of that money was agreed.
The wording is very deliberate and it’s to prevent clubs selling for low prices with add-ons/sell on clauses, to avoid having to pay a %. This is consistent across the majority of transfers. St Mirren are entitled to a % of whatever Hibs get if Villa sell McGinn for example. St Mirren also got money as part of the add-on for McGinn helping get Villa promoted. That’s generally how these deals work. Otherwise there would be a lot of legal battles with clubs underselling these players, with add-ons for say 1 appearance and another for 1 goal, to avoid paying the sell on %.
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Fri 2 Jun 09:50
The point is that we`re going to rake it in when Matty T moves from us to Juventus and then onto PSG.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Fri 2 Jun 10:11
Here`s how sell-on clauses typically work:
Negotiation: During the negotiation of a transfer deal, the selling club and the buying club can agree to include a sell-on clause as part of the contractual terms. The specific details, such as the percentage of the sell-on fee and the duration of the clause, are usually agreed upon between the two clubs.
Transfer Fee: When a player is transferred from the selling club to the buying club, a transfer fee is paid by the buying club to the selling club. This transfer fee is the initial payment made for the player`s services.
Sell-on Percentage: As part of the sell-on clause, the selling club typically negotiates a percentage of the profit from any future transfer of the player. For example, if the sell-on clause states a 20% sell-on fee, the selling club would receive 20% of the profit made by the buying club in any subsequent transfer.
Subsequent Transfer: If the buying club decides to sell the player to another club in the future, they are required to pay the sell-on fee to the selling club. The sell-on fee is calculated based on the agreed-upon percentage and the profit made on the subsequent transfer. It`s important to note that the sell-on fee is usually only applicable to the profit made and not the entire transfer fee.
Duration: Sell-on clauses typically have a limited duration. The selling club`s entitlement to the sell-on fee may expire after a certain number of years or a specified number of transfers. The duration is usually negotiated during the initial transfer deal.
To summarize, sell-on clauses provide the selling club with the opportunity to receive a percentage of the profit from any future transfers of the player. It allows the selling club to benefit financially if the player`s value increases and they are subsequently sold for a higher fee.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Fri 2 Jun 21:37
Hibs have reportedly accepted a bid of 1.2mil from Millwall for Nisbet, no player terms have as yet been agreed.
Should be the start of a decent bidding war for him.
approx 300k so far for DAFC coffers on the basis of 1.2mil being the final figure as 25% seems to be the reported cut of the deal for the Pars.
Post Edited (Fri 02 Jun 22:00)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 2 Jun 22:11
This is about as bad as following the Trump saga. Lots of news but nothing happens.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sat 3 Jun 11:18
I think both the above are nearing a conclusion, hopefully and thankfully
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