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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Sun 24 Sep 10:46
Was mentioned elsewhere that half of the Legends board has been covered up in crappy advertising.
I`m happy to maximise revenue but let`s stop destroying what makes our ground and club special. Little things add up and we`ll lose our identity and culture surrounding us.
They even took away the seat ymthst you could sit on for a photo I believe.
Dave Cook if you`re reading, please consider things like this. It might bring in a couple hundred quid a week or whatever but it destroys what has been a fantastic part of our ground.
Ep.12 of East End Tales is out now- Roy Barry!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 24 Sep 18:05
Yep I saw it walking in yesterday. It’s awful - never mind the 50/50 and goal music nonsense. The legends photo gallery is such a stand out and a great intro for the home and away fans.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 24 Sep 18:25
Well said.
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 24 Sep 18:43
One for the SLO?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: NW 1966
Date: Mon 25 Sep 09:21
Poor decision on the positioning of this advert.
We don`t want to start making silly decisions like this as it`s just embarrassing.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 25 Sep 09:29
It looks awful aswell.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Mon 25 Sep 11:02
The way it`s been done makes me think it could be a prelude to the rest of the Legends photos being covered up by other adverts.
I appreciate this is a great advertising location, and the Commercial Manager will probably have revenue targets to meet, but this seems a retrograde step for a club that values its heritage.
The club needs to take control of the narrative here and explain the thinking behind the decision, otherwise it will lose more goodwill.
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Post Edited (Mon 25 Sep 11:04)
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 25 Sep 11:10
That is a callous and insensitive decision .. Explanation required .. sort it pronto Mr. Cook
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 25 Sep 11:19
I`ve just e-mailed David Cook asking who made the decision
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 25 Sep 13:46
Quote:
Stanza, Mon 25 Sept 11:02
The way it`s been done makes me think it could be a prelude to the rest of the Legends photos being covered up by other adverts.
I appreciate this is a great advertising location, and the Commercial Manager will probably have revenue targets to meet, but this seems a retrograde step for a club that values its heritage.
The club needs to take control of the narrative here and explain the thinking behind the decision, otherwise it will lose more goodwill.
The narrative, as you alluded, is money. Those running our club saw the opportunity to make some easy money and went for it. Our fanbase don`t care about money, though. They care about the players, past and present.
If the board containing the Pars legends had been relocated in its entirety, fans may have accepted that, but to cover up some of them with a garish ad is quite bizarre and dare I say disrespectful to these players.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Mon 25 Sep 15:49)
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Topic Originator: LuckyTiler
Date: Mon 25 Sep 14:29
Maybe the lads who brought flares on Saturday will bring sharpies next time
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 25 Sep 15:10
Nailed it GG
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Mon 25 Sep 15:20
Quote:
GG Riva, Mon 25 Sep 13:46
Quote:
Stanza, Mon 25 Sept 11:02
The way it`s been done makes me think it could be a prelude to the rest of the Legends photos being covered up by other adverts.
I appreciate this is a great advertising location, and the Commercial Manager will probably have revenue targets to meet, but this seems a retrograde step for a club that values its heritage.
The club needs to take control of the narrative here and explain the thinking behind the decision, otherwise it will lose more goodwill.
The narrative, as you alluded, is money. Those running our club saw the opportunity to make some easy money and went for it. Our fanbase don`t care about money, though. The care about the players, past and present.
If the board containing the Pars legends had been relocated in its entirety, fans may have accepted that, but to cover up some of them with a garish ad is quite bizarre and dare I say disrespectful to these players.
I actually looked at the wall at the weekend and never saw the advertisement at all but was pointing out Andrew Tod to someone. So in. General observer view the advert had no impact but the players wall did. I probably would have noticed some time in the future the others were missing, but the advert had zero impact on me.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Mon 25 Sep 17:27
Quote:
parsmad68, Mon 25 Sept 15:20
Quote:
GG Riva, Mon 25 Sep 13:46
Quote:
Stanza, Mon 25 Sept 11:02
The way it`s been done makes me think it could be a prelude to the rest of the Legends photos being covered up by other adverts.
I appreciate this is a great advertising location, and the Commercial Manager will probably have revenue targets to meet, but this seems a retrograde step for a club that values its heritage.
The club needs to take control of the narrative here and explain the thinking behind the decision, otherwise it will lose more goodwill.
The narrative, as you alluded, is money. Those running our club saw the opportunity to make some easy money and went for it. Our fanbase don`t care about money, though. The care about the players, past and present.
If the board containing the Pars legends had been relocated in its entirety, fans may have accepted that, but to cover up some of them with a garish ad is quite bizarre and dare I say disrespectful to these players.
I actually looked at the wall at the weekend and never saw the advertisement at all but was pointing out Andrew Tod to someone. So in. General observer view the advert had no impact but the players wall did. I probably would have noticed some time in the future the others were missing, but the advert had zero impact on me.
I`m the same never even noticed the advertisement
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 25 Sep 18:48
What is the advert advertising?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 25 Sep 19:00
The Seven Kings pub
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 25 Sep 20:06
Quote:
buffy, Mon 25 Sep 19:00
The Seven Kings pub
I see. I`m sure most folk who go to the home end at East End Park already know that the 7 Kings pub is rubbish, so doubt any advertising will make much difference.
I`m boycotting it due to them destroying the legends board
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 25 Sep 20:35
To be fair rsp I would be the same .. but its not really their fault .. Its down to David Cook .. who up till now has not answered any e-mails .. he is drawing a good salary from the club but hiding from any criticism or confrontation .. just saying
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 25 Sep 20:47
Quote:
Buspasspar, Mon 25 Sep 20:35
To be fair rsp I would be the same .. but its not really their fault .. Its down to David Cook .. who up till now has not answered any e-mails .. he is drawing a good salary from the club but hiding from any criticism or confrontation .. just saying
In fairness to David Cook, he is an open and honest person, I`d expect he is just snowed under and will get back to you soon
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 25 Sep 20:50
Thanks rsp .. time will tell
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 25 Sep 20:50
Think it’s more likely the commercial manager side o things.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: NW 1966
Date: Mon 25 Sep 20:58
Don`t think anyone should be coming down on the CEO too hard just yet. I reckon he`ll answer the emails sent to him. He`s done a good job thus far, but he`s booted the ball into his own net with this decision.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 25 Sep 21:19
Jings min gie the man a chance to reply. What a bunch of sweetie wives.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 25 Sep 21:30
I`m fairly sure the adverts on the side of the main stand moved about before the start of the season so hopefully this is a temporary home to meet a contractual obligation and it`ll be moved.
I`d be impressed if people get a response before the end of the week tbh. That`s not a criticism of David Cook, more thinking realistically in terms of his inbox and time to provide an appropriate response.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Mon 25 Sep 21:38
Quote:
jake89, Mon 25 Sep 21:30
I`m fairly sure the adverts on the side of the main stand moved about before the start of the season so hopefully this is a temporary home to meet a contractual obligation and it`ll be moved.
I`d be impressed if people get a response before the end of the week tbh. That`s not a criticism of David Cook, more thinking realistically in terms of his inbox and time to provide an appropriate response.
Why would he possibly have a full inbox? He runs a very small business. The football side is taken care off already as well. I’m sure he’ll reply soon enough
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 25 Sep 23:05
I did notice that a couple of them were damaged, I think leishmans off hand was defaced.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Tue 26 Sep 00:44
"Why would he possibly have a full inbox? He runs a very small business. The football side is taken care off already as well. I’m sure he’ll reply soon enough."
I think the DAFC office is closed on Mondays, so it`s more than a little unrealistic to expect the CEO to be spending his day answering individual complaints. No doubt he`ll want to consult with whoever was involved and then give a considered response, either individually or possibly in a general statement.
As to whether or not the Chairman/CEO of DAFC has a full inbox, I can assure you that running a medium-sized football club is a more-than-fulltime job, so like Ross McArthur before him, DC has plenty of plates to keep spinning, INCLUDING many on the "football" side. Some of those plates may well be much more important and urgent than the Legends photos, however disappointed many of us are about what has happened.
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Tue 26 Sep 11:53
Recieved a reply from David Cook a short while ago.
Basically says that the wall had graffiti, was in bad shape and had some out of date Lifeline benefits mentioned. The plan is to update this appropriately with a new graphic and that because it`s a huge space, it`ll be split 50/50 between that and commercially.
Also, the new music will be binned.
Fair play in replying to him.
Ep.12 of East End Tales is out now- Roy Barry!
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/13639689
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 26 Sep 12:16
I also received a similar reply from David Cook
I thanked him for taking time to get back to me with an explanation
I also said I was unaware of the deterioration and that I feel foolish now
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Kaiser Chief
Date: Tue 26 Sep 13:12
I`m glad those who emailed David Cook got a response. I, too, have responded to those who contacted me directly.
I was very disappointed to learn today that our Commercial Manager was verbally abused last night over this while going about his business in the supermarket. Having been down a similar road before, I had hoped we`d seen the last of this kind of behaviour. How naive of me.
Post Edited (Tue 26 Sep 13:12)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 26 Sep 13:43
That`s an absolute disgrace. I hope whoever it was is utterly ashamed of themselves. You`re an embarrassment to yourself and the club.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 26 Sep 14:05
Quote:
Kaiser Chief, Tue 26 Sep 13:12
I`m glad those who emailed David Cook got a response. I, too, have responded to those who contacted me directly.
I was very disappointed to learn today that our Commercial Manager was verbally abused last night over this while going about his business in the supermarket. Having been down a similar road before, I had hoped we`d seen the last of this kind of behaviour. How naive of me.
Really disappointed to hear that. Unacceptable from whoever that was. Everyone makes mistakes, I’m sure everything was done with the best intentions of improving the match day experience. No harm in supporters offering feedback, but there’s absolutely no need to abuse anyone at all, never mind when they’re trying to get on with their daily life.
There’s a lot that the club are getting right just now. Certainly a lot more than they’re getting wrong, in my opinion. If the biggest complaint supporters have is the music played and the position of an advertising board, that suggests that 99% of what is going on must be going well and the entire board deserve credit for that.
Our board members should be getting praised/thanked, rather than abused. Obviously, that goes for yourself too. The club’s engagement with fans is the best it has been in a long time, there’s a really entertaining group of players on the park every week and we have a very good management team. I think it’s a great time to be a Pars fan just now and I’m grateful for the entire board’s contribution to that.
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Topic Originator: Mr Mac
Date: Tue 26 Sep 14:09
Quote:
Kaiser Chief, Tue 26 Sept 13:12
I`m glad those who emailed David Cook got a response. I, too, have responded to those who contacted me directly.
I was very disappointed to learn today that our Commercial Manager was verbally abused last night over this while going about his business in the supermarket. Having been down a similar road before, I had hoped we`d seen the last of this kind of behaviour. How naive of me.
Absolutely abhorrent that this incident has occurred.
It does though demonstrate why the club needs to control the story when changes are being made to things that mean something to fans. Putting out a tweet beforehand saying that the Legends wall needed some TLC and the club were going to take the opportunity to refresh it would have prevented any thoughts that the clubs heritage was being disrespected and the incident likely wouldn`t have occurred.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 26 Sep 14:13
Still doesn`t give anyone the right to shout abuse at someone in a supermarket. I really hope you don`t think it does
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Tue 26 Sep 14:13)
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Tue 26 Sep 14:25
He quite clearly doesn`t think that.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Mr Mac
Date: Tue 26 Sep 14:29
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 26 Sept 14:13
Still doesn`t give anyone the right to shout abuse at someone in a supermarket. I really hope you don`t think it does
No it does not as I clearly stated in my opening comment.
Unfortunately, there are eejits (for want of a less swear filter friendly term) all around us who will behave like that though so you have to consider them to protect the club and most importantly staff members.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Tue 26 Sep 14:46
Verbal abuse of our Commercial Manager (or anyone else for that matter) is so far beyond acceptable that I would be quite happy if the individual concerned could be identified and banned from EEP.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 26 Sep 14:51
Quote:
Kaiser Chief, Tue 26 Sept 13:12
I`m glad those who emailed David Cook got a response. I, too, have responded to those who contacted me directly.
I was very disappointed to learn today that our Commercial Manager was verbally abused last night over this while going about his business in the supermarket. Having been down a similar road before, I had hoped we`d seen the last of this kind of behaviour. How naive of me.
That`s despicable but not surprising, as you yourself allude. I think you were referring to the brain-dead morons who verbally abused and spat on Ross McArthur and damaged his car.
We like to believe that these idiots only follow our bigger clubs, but sadly, we also have our share.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 26 Sep 15:14
Quote:
Mr Mac, Tue 26 Sept 14:29
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 26 Sept 14:13
Still doesn`t give anyone the right to shout abuse at someone in a supermarket. I really hope you don`t think it does
No it does not as I clearly stated in my opening comment.
Unfortunately, there are eejits (for want of a less swear filter friendly term) all around us who will behave like that though so you have to consider them to protect the club and most importantly staff members.
Cool.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Tue 26 Sep 15:44
I think it also means we ALL have to try and control the very small percentage who act like numpties, remember bad news travels fast and good takes a while
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 26 Sep 16:39
I don`t think I`d know who our commercial director was if he came up and punched me in the face tbh
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 26 Sep 17:04
What an eejit. I hope David reported the incident as most supermarkets have good CCTV coverage.
I`m aware of David but can`t say I`d be able to pick him out in a crowd. For what it`s worth, I`ve only seen positive things since he`s come on board. Appears very professional. That`s in no way taking away from the excellent work carried out by volunteers before he was appointed though. The difference I feel is having someone who has it as a full-time dedicated role.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Tue 26 Sep 17:12
Quote:
jake89, Tue 26 Sept 17:04
What an eejit. I hope David reported the incident as most supermarkets have good CCTV coverage.
I`m aware of David but can`t say I`d be able to pick him out in a crowd. For what it`s worth, I`ve only seen positive things since he`s come on board. Appears very professional. That`s in no way taking away from the excellent work carried out by volunteers before he was appointed though. The difference I feel is having someone who has it as a full-time dedicated role.
Alister Burn is the Commercial Manager
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Tue 26 Sep 17:13
Quote:
jake89, Tue 26 Sept 17:04
What an eejit. I hope David reported the incident as most supermarkets have good CCTV coverage.
I presume from KC`s post that the incident involved our Commercial Manager Alister Burn, rather than our Chairman/CEO David Cook.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 26 Sep 17:34
So not only could I not pick them out in a crowd, I would also misname them 🤦♂️
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 26 Sep 17:38
Quote:
Mr Mac, Tue 26 Sep 14:09
Quote:
Kaiser Chief, Tue 26 Sept 13:12
I`m glad those who emailed David Cook got a response. I, too, have responded to those who contacted me directly.
I was very disappointed to learn today that our Commercial Manager was verbally abused last night over this while going about his business in the supermarket. Having been down a similar road before, I had hoped we`d seen the last of this kind of behaviour. How naive of me.
Absolutely abhorrent that this incident has occurred.
It does though demonstrate why the club needs to control the story when changes are being made to things that mean something to fans. Putting out a tweet beforehand saying that the Legends wall needed some TLC and the club were going to take the opportunity to refresh it would have prevented any thoughts that the clubs heritage was being disrespected and the incident likely wouldn`t have occurred.
This is perfectly correct and I hope the people involved have learned from it.
It is also true that we can be a bit more responsible how we address matters on here. It doesn`t take much to fan the flames of the easily roused and slow to think.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 29 Sep 18:45
Playing devil`s advocate here but how do we know he was a supporter and not just a wee helmet acting up in front of his pals?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Fri 29 Sep 18:49
Playing devil`s advocate here but how do we know he was a supporter and not just a wee helmet acting up in front of his pals?
Could be both tbh - being a Pars fan isn`t a vaccine against helmetary.
"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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