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 McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Murchadh  
Date:   Fri 24 Nov 22:22

I’m embarrassed to be back!

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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Fri 24 Nov 22:25

Hello 😃😃
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Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Fri 24 Nov 23:58

Deary me
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 07:20

Steady.....

But, Shoogly nail time.

Not strengthening might come back to bite his bum.

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 08:03

He’s not going anywhere but he only signed ‘experienced’ players that he or his assistant had worked with before.

He’s got to be wandering why they are not doing anything to pay him back.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 09:32

This forum needs put to sleep.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 09:37

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Berkey, Sat 25 Nov 08:03

He’s not going anywhere but he only signed ‘experienced’ players that he or his assistant had worked with before.

He’s got to be wandering why they are not doing anything to pay him back.


Didnt realise that KRH and Otoo were experienced players 🤔😂 or Fisher for that matter
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: evo!  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 10:35

Oh no, mcfake? We got a manager with one of those names

MC (f)pale said pre season aim was to consolidate, and I sorta hoped he was under playing it, butbya no what maybe he was right

BEAST!
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: KirklistonPar  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 11:24

I don’t want McPake to go and I don’t believe he will. We desperately need someone who can get the ball in the back of the net. Our build up play can be great then completely breakdown or we miss a sitter. This will be starting to affect the confidence in the squad. Hopefully we can get a player in the January window that can help us turn the goal drought round. Until then we’re just gonna need to hang in there and try not to give away the first goal. As this is adding extra pressure on the strikers. Certain players in our squad should be nowhere near a championship club that want to push for promotion. I’m sure we can turn it around and the board/manager and coach’s are all trying their hardest but, ultimately it all comes down to money and does the player want to come to the Pars.
It’s certainly gonna make tense and exciting second half of the season.
COYP!!



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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 13:00

Mcpake is going nowhere thankfully. Tough results like last night will make us better in the long run. All about establishing ourselves back at this level this season. Its clear there are 3-4 players that are simply not good enough for the championship and I imagine that we will add 1-2 in the January window. We miss Benny badly, the man is crucial to our style of play and his leadership can’t be replaced easily.
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: GG4  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 13:19

Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 25 Nov 09:32

This forum needs put to sleep.

Toddle off then and give the rest of us peace from you then. You won`t be missed 🔔🔚

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 13:27

Couple of poor performances and dodgy signings but overall McPake has done a very good job wi the Pars.

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 13:36

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GG4, Sat 25 Nov 13:19

Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 25 Nov 09:32

This forum needs put to sleep.

Toddle off then and give the rest of us peace from you then. You won`t be missed 🔔🔚


Insightful

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 13:45

Aye cos changing the manager halfway through the season always works.
Idiots.

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: PARadise  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 14:58

The only way Mcpake will be out is if a bigger club come and take him.

Thankfully the people running the club are calm and level headed enough to not chop and change managers constantly.

We need to improve yes, but we have a good thing going and Mcpake has already in his short time in management dealt with adversity well with his time in Dundee.

I get that folk are raging about yesterday but what comes very apparent in situations like this is that a large amount of football supporters really know f@
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 15:47

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PARadise, Sat 25 Nov 14:58

The only way Mcpake will be out is if a bigger club come and take him.

Thankfully the people running the club are calm and level headed enough to not chop and change managers constantly.

We need to improve yes, but we have a good thing going and Mcpake has already in his short time in management dealt with adversity well with his time in Dundee.

I get that folk are raging about yesterday but what comes very apparent in situations like this is that a large amount of football supporters really know f@


I totally agree but their has to be a better transfer window in January.
I`ve been a Pars supporter for 50 years and last night was total a shambles
Players and management need to take a good look at themselves.
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Livingston Par  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 18:29

Bet you wouldn’t say that to his face.

After last season he still has a good bit of credit yet I would say.

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 18:38

I think it`s stretching it too far to suggest the manager should go. It was a poor performance for sure. Rivers were the better side and on that performance will push Utd to the wire. I thought before the game this one would be a thermometer for the remainder of our season. Realistically we need to be aiming for the top half of the league. Like others I think that we need to bring a couple in over January based on our recent performances.
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 18:38

If he keeps offering 3 year deals to players who can’t play at this level the board won’t have much choice. He’ll be making it a no brainer.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 18:51

Not too keen on the "Mcpake Out " headline but that could change we have had our fair share of injuries etc but surely the manager can recognise whether a player can cut it in the championship or not, unfortunately we have players on long deals who are bang average , we have no ball winners or players who are capable of turning a game our way our striking situation is we dont have a striker with Moffat being the only player williing to have pop. and the Goalkeeping situation is going to be our undoing with a vote of no confidence in them all, although i do think we should have persevered with Harry Sharp

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 18:55

Sharp is away in January unless the initial deal has been extended?
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 18:55

Hamilton and Otoo are competent ball-winners when they are available for midfield. Sharp has hardly been error-free.



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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 19:08

Gordi my worry is he knows chalmers, Moffat and Allan are not ball winners but he went with it anyway. Not quite sure how Allan has managed to still be under contract with us. Plenty of us had reservations about chalmers when he signed the 2 year deal in the summer, lack of pace and physicality would leave him exposed this season. If the fans can see it why can’t mcpake?

He should have had the nouse to put otoo or Hamilton in there and dropped Allan. Yes that might have meant a change to the formation but at least we might have been able to win the ball back more often.

Wighton now on a 2 year deal and has been so poor he’s been dropped for a guy who so far doesn’t look like he can play football. O’hallaran looks like a busted flush. The keeper is in crisis same as last time we were at this level.

So with wighton, chalmers, o’hallaran and mehmet here next year how much wages will there be for experienced players to supplement the youngsters? No one will take these guys off us.



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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 19:17

Chalmers gets a lot of stick but Allan is not any better
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 20:36

Rigger Al wrote:

> Chalmers gets a lot of stick but Allan is not any better

Neither are championship level . barely 1st division

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: piepar  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 20:36

We got our tatties Friday for sure and it pains me to say how good rovers looked. Do we really want to go back down the route of another manager and back to eleven mercenaries every other season?
I believe James is building a squad who will have loyalty to the club and will stick together improving as we go.
A young squad needs time to mature, results like Friday are bound to happen. Once Matty and Kane recover their match fitness we will see further improvement
I was also disappointed at the booing at the end of the match - I believe the relationship between the players and the fans is important and we don’t want to lose this. Kudos to the boys in the NW for this support - it’s been enjoyable seeing this grow.
Come on ye pars !



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Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 21:23

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piepar, Sat 25 Nov 20:36

We got our tatties Friday for sure and it pains me to say how good rovers looked. Do we really want to go back down the route of another manager and back to eleven mercenaries every other season?
I believe James is building a squad who will have loyalty to the club and will stick together improving as we go.
A young squad needs time to mature, results like Friday are bound to happen. Once Matty and Kane recover their match fitness we will see further improvement
I was also disappointed at the booing at the end of the match - I believe the relationship between the players and the fans is important and we don’t want to lose this. Kudos to the boys in the NW for this support - it’s been enjoyable seeing this grow.
Come on ye pars !



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Raith only looked good last night because we made them look good but then that’s not difficult when you offer up nothing in way of attacking football this tippy tappy p!sh miles out from goal allowing the opposition to track back and defend the box before we try and get it wide is killing us then we resort to trying to walk the ball into the net but then In saying that Ian Murray played a blinder when we brought KRH on by shifting Dylan Easton to that side apart from the incident when smith pulled KRH down and got booked they marked him out the game as for Lewis McCann the sooner someone is daft enough to come in and buy him the better

Come on ye pars ⚽️
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 21:30

The Rovers were far superior all over the pitch, we were brutal. We couldn’t even pass a ball never mind back track etc.
I watch the 1st team train at Pitreavie sometimes and it’s all with a music player…fek that and concentrate on your job ffs! Time to roll up the sleeves and get to work on the team.

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 22:23

I don`t want to see a change in management, but we must bring in some specialist coaching for the forward line. Positioning and finishing are obvious shortcomings, but a particular focus should be on link play between the midfield and attack. These areas need to be addressed urgently.

And, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, please place a player wide on the far side when we take a corner. The number of opportunities we lose by failing to do this is beyond ridiculous.

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Topic Originator: gegganpar  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 22:42

Don`t get this `ROVERS ARE A SUPERIOR SIDE CRAP`.
in 4 games it`s the first time they`ve been better and deserved the win.
On that performance the pars would have struggled against Lourenzo Legends from super 7s at pitreavie.

J angus blacklaws

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Sat 25 Nov 23:06

Statements like `He can`t play at this level` are completely evidence free. What is `that level?` Define it please.

Many moons ago Johann Cruyff was mooching around the Ajax pitches and he spotted a useful outside right on the 3rd pitch. `Put him up.` said the great man.
`To the second pitch?` they asked?

`NO! To the first pitch. He has a football brain and he will play better with good players.`

That was Dennis Bergkampf. So he was out of his depth? Of course not. He adapted to the level required although it was only a Arsenal he showed he true ability. But Cruyff saw that certain something in a teenager.

Bene has been the biggest loss to the Pars, both as an organiser of the defence and as a leader in the Barry/McCathie mould. When hew returns things will become better. He is McKape on the park.

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 09:41

I think we do miss Bene, but I think the concern is the lack of goals. We have relied on Moffat more recently. We are too static and predictable upfront I think. Rovers were very mobile in the top third of the pitch and changed t the pace and movement of the ball to create chances. I don`t recall the Rovers keeper making many saves if any.
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Topic Originator: bigdonnie  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 10:27

i think if we lose to dire arbroath mob on tuesday fans will demand mcpake gets sacked so lets hope for a win unbelievably in over year and a half if pars scored first we never lost its getting that first goal thats killing us if we get it we relax a bit and play good football

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: par_33  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 11:19

Can’t say I’ve seen Paul Allan have a stinker yet. But Chalmers brings him down to his level, the young guy has to cover n try mop up when sleepy Chalmers gets caught up with the ball.

Put Allan in a midfield with Otoo n Todd and I think we’d be onto a winner.

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 12:06

"Don`t get this `ROVERS ARE A SUPERIOR SIDE CRAP`."

They`re second top of the league, look the only challengers to Dundee Utd and have beaten us the last three times we`ve played them including twice at East End. Of course they`re a superior side.

"Statements like `He can`t play at this level` are completely evidence free. What is `that level?` Define it please."

This level clearly refers to the Scottish Championship. Surely that doesn`t need spelling out? As to evidence, if we look at the last 3 seasons of Chalmers In this division and the last 2 of Mehmet playing in the Championship you`ll see guys who were pretty rank rotten, whether that was because they couldn`t maintain a reasonable level, lost confidence, didn`t have the pace or quality to perform well in this division or because they didn`t have the mental capacity to play consistently in this league. There`s plenty of evidence to suggest both those players are solid to good League One players but very little to suggest the same in the Championship. With the likes of Todd, he`s had game time in this division and looked OK in a different position so there`s a confidence that he`ll be good in his preferred position. Ritchie-Hosler hasn`t played in this league until this season so it`s hard to tell how he`ll do given he`s had injuries.

"Can’t say I’ve seen Paul Allan have a stinker yet. But Chalmers brings him down to his level, the young guy has to cover n try mop up when sleepy Chalmers gets caught up with the ball."

Aye, I find it hard to be super critical of Allan when a lot of his games have been alongside Chalmers and they don`t work well together. In the games when Allan played with Otoo I thought he was fine, and that suggests there`s something to your statement. Of course I`ll be accused of "having it in for" Chalmers and I guess there`s also some truth in that as I don`t rate him at all, certainly not to the heights that some folk do.

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 12:12

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Indiapar, Sun 26 Nov 09:41

I think we do miss Bene, but I think the concern is the lack of goals. We have relied on Moffat more recently. We are too static and predictable upfront I think. Rovers were very mobile in the top third of the pitch and changed t the pace and movement of the ball to create chances. I don`t recall the Rovers keeper making many saves if any.


Aye, the Raith keeper didnt make a save all night…..except from Moffats shot, a Fisher header and a penalty save……but yeah he didnt make a save 😂😂
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 13:15

I wonder how many of those criticising the manager and their favourite scapegoats were among those who said we had no chance of getting promoted last season and would struggle to avoid relegation this season? We`ve actually made a decent start to the League despite missing a number of key players. How have we managed it with so many players who are apparently not of the required standard?

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 14:09

Trolls who only turn up on the forum to post this crap are doing it for one reason only, Wee Eck.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 14:24

I don`t think they are all trolls, buffy, but there are posters who are more likely to appear after a poor performance than a good one.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 14:40

There are posters who are NOWHERE to be seen when we win and all over every thread on the forum when we lose.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 15:00

They`re like vultures looking for a carcass.

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Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 15:02

da no 1 you are correct when we win the team never gets the credit ,
Many people come on here to have ago at the team and usually say we were lucky !
Considering the Injuries we have endured the team we have had to put out of late have done ok ,
Like most other people say the biggest problem is we have key players out of important positions and others are being shoe horned in to fit the formation , but I will add we need to make more chances and when they do come along we need to be clinical , as this is an area we need to be better on , goals win games
And our Midfield seem to be a wee bit slow in getting the ball up to our front men which gives the opposition time to get players back but I am sure McPake will sort this out , I do not think there is any point in lambasting any player in particular better if we get behind them

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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 16:05

We`ve only won 4 games tbf - one v Airdrie where Allan scored a cracker to dig us out a hole, a good away win v Queens Park and 2 wins against probably the worst team in the league where the home win was arguably the best we`ve played. That is fine for a mid table finish, but you need to win more home games and pick up points away to the others if we`ve to be serious contenders at the top end of the table. Losing at home to Ayr, losing at home to Raith and being hammered at Partick aren`t good results in anyone`s book, surely. The point at Tannadice was excellent and the home draw v Inverness was acceptable given the upturn in their form and the number of times we hit the frame of the goal. And even if all that wasn`t true, looking beyond results our performances have often been very flat, passive and uninspiring going forward. Even last season there were times when we were pretty boring to watch, but getting out that league was so important it was mostly overlooked.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 16:39

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kelty_par, Sun 26 Nov 16:05

We`ve only won 4 games tbf - one v Airdrie where Allan scored a cracker to dig us out a hole, a good away win v Queens Park and 2 wins against probably the worst team in the league where the home win was arguably the best we`ve played. That is fine for a mid table finish, but you need to win more home games and pick up points away to the others if we`ve to be serious contenders at the top end of the table. Losing at home to Ayr, losing at home to Raith and being hammered at Partick aren`t good results in anyone`s book, surely. The point at Tannadice was excellent and the home draw v Inverness was acceptable given the upturn in their form and the number of times we hit the frame of the goal. And even if all that wasn`t true, looking beyond results our performances have often been very flat, passive and uninspiring going forward. Even last season there were times when we were pretty boring to watch, but getting out that league was so important it was mostly overlooked.


I try really hard not to react to posts like yours KP but.....

We`ve had some poor performances and poor results, I`ll give you that. But how can you class scoring a fantastic winner in an exciting even game as "digging us out a hole"? What a really strange take.

Last season we got the job well done, after many on here predicted we wouldn`t even get to the play-offs. Of course, that would only be because we played "plumbers and painters" every week, obviously.

Friday was shocking but performances like that aren`t like us, this season we`ve been more than a match for most teams except for the games you mentioned above. At the start of the season I just wanted us to compete and I think we`ve done that pretty much every week

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 17:19

I think it`s called `damning with faint praise`. The two wins against Morton (a team we usually struggle against) are qualified because they`re `probably the worst team in the league`. Who cares? I don`t mind who we beat. Winning around a third of your games is about right for a mid-table team which would be a respectable position first season back I think while trying for better.

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 17:32

"But how can you class scoring a fantastic winner in an exciting even game as "digging us out a hole"? "

Because we never really looked like scoring from open play and it took a great goal (which I`ve acknowledged) to win a game against a team most would be expecting us to beat at home.

"Friday was shocking but performances like that aren`t like us,"

Except for the Ayr home game and away at Partick?

"Winning around a third of your games is about right for a mid-table team which would be a respectable position first season back I think while trying for better"

Which us exactly what I said - fine results for mid table, probably not good enough to be taken seriously at the right end of the table.

It`s weird - there are times when it`s like some folk agree with the general point but because they don`t agree with the tone or the analysis behind it they feel they’ve got to somehow argue the point!

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 17:53

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kelty_par, Sun 26 Nov 17:32

"But how can you class scoring a fantastic winner in an exciting even game as "digging us out a hole"? "

Because we never really looked like scoring from open play and it took a great goal (which I`ve acknowledged) to win a game against a team most would be expecting us to beat at home.

"Friday was shocking but performances like that aren`t like us,"

Except for the Ayr home game and away at Partick?

"Winning around a third of your games is about right for a mid-table team which would be a respectable position first season back I think while trying for better"

Which us exactly what I said - fine results for mid table, probably not good enough to be taken seriously at the right end of the table.

It`s weird - there are times when it`s like some folk agree with the general point but because they don`t agree with the tone or the analysis behind it they feel they’ve got to somehow argue the point!


KP I did say "except the games you mentioned" but you chose not to quote that bit.

You expected us to beat Airdrie. That`s maybe your problem. I don`t and never have expected anything watching Dunfermline since I first started going in 1984/85. The build up to every game is nervy for me. Maybe that`s my problem!

Not sure what your "general point" is to be fair. You`ve taken a pretty negative view of a couple of positive parts of our season.

Mid table in the Championship? I`m not sure there is such a thing. If we can pick up a few wins between now and Christmas we`ll be well positioned for top 4 but not exactly clear of relegation. That`s the nature of this league so folk better get used to it!

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 18:11

Really don’t understand the uproar, it was a really poor performance but a loss to the in form team at the moment wasn’t unexpected.

We’re fifth in the league and a W versus Arbroath on Tuesday sees us in a promotion playoff spot.

For a team that’s just come up through League One, nurturing some young talented players in the process and had to deal with an injury crisis, don’t think there’s much to grumble about.
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 Re: McFake Out!
Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 18:50

I think uproar is a bit strong, i don,t think the manager should go , its just dedicated supporters venting their anger at what was really a pathetic performance in all areas of the pitch, im sure he knows where the weaknesses are but unfortunately we don,t have replacements to step into theses areas due to a poor recruitment policy, only a few weeks until the January window , hopefully we can bring in a bit more quality to bolster the squad, hoping for a better performance on Tuesdat. COYP

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Topic Originator: NW 1966  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 18:55

Anybody calling for our Managers head needs to seriously stay away.
There are some self entitled people in our support.
James McPake is the man.



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Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 19:05

There are some fans,who aren`t happy unless they`re raging. Sad AF. Probably complain about everything in life without taking any responsibility for themselves.

Ep.14 of East End Tales is out now- The Draft

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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 19:13

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Berry, Sun 26 Nov 18:11

Really don’t understand the uproar, it was a really poor performance but a loss to the in form team at the moment wasn’t unexpected.

We’re fifth in the league and a W versus Arbroath on Tuesday sees us in a promotion playoff spot.

For a team that’s just come up through League One, nurturing some young talented players in the process and had to deal with an injury crisis, don’t think there’s much to grumble about.


This - 100% this! Also, people seen to forget that in some of the games we’ve lost or drawn (Utd away, ICT home, both Rovers games) we should have collected more points if not all the points. Despite a major injury crisis so far!

Staggering folk to be calling for a change when a win sees us up to 4th! Too many entitled people in here that seen us do well in early naughties and think we are that level 😂
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Topic Originator: gegganpar  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 20:29

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kelty_par, Sun 26 Nov 12:06

"Don`t get this `ROVERS ARE A SUPERIOR SIDE CRAP`."

They`re second top of the league, look the only challengers to Dundee Utd and have beaten us the last three times we`ve played them including twice at East End. Of course they`re a superior side.

"Statements like `He can`t play at this level` are completely evidence free. What is `that level?` Define it please."

This level clearly refers to the Scottish Championship. Surely that doesn`t need spelling out? As to evidence, if we look at the last 3 seasons of Chalmers In this division and the last 2 of Mehmet playing in the Championship you`ll see guys who were pretty rank rotten, whether that was because they couldn`t maintain a reasonable level, lost confidence, didn`t have the pace or quality to perform well in this division or because they didn`t have the mental capacity to play consistently in this league. There`s plenty of evidence to suggest both those players are solid to good League One players but very little to suggest the same in the Championship. With the likes of Todd, he`s had game time in this division and looked OK in a different position so there`s a confidence that he`ll be good in his preferred position. Ritchie-Hosler hasn`t played in this league until this season so it`s hard to tell how he`ll do given he`s had injuries.

"Can’t say I’ve seen Paul Allan have a stinker yet. But Chalmers brings him down to his level, the young guy has to cover n try mop up when sleepy Chalmers gets caught up with the ball."

Aye, I find it hard to be super critical of Allan when a lot of his games have been alongside Chalmers and they don`t work well together. In the games when Allan played with Otoo I thought he was fine, and that suggests there`s something to your statement. Of course I`ll be accused of "having it in for" Chalmers and I guess there`s also some truth in that as I don`t rate him at all, certainly not to the heights that some folk do.


Kelty..par I agree with some of what you post, but when you quote other people`s posts you edit them like a polition!!!
Are you the kelty gangster that owns the rovers?

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Topic Originator: gegganpar  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 20:39

Ok ,my spelling is awful...
Not even Sunday league 🤣

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 20:44

"Kelty..par I agree with some of what you post, but when you quote other people`s posts you edit them like a polition!!!"

How so? I don`t edit anything, just copy the relevant part of their post to reply to. No point quoting a huge long spiel if there`s only one sentence I agree/disagree with or want to comment on. Especially now when the board seems to throw a nutty when you post long messages and it wants you to split them up.

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Topic Originator: gegganpar  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 21:03

Whatever! But you never answered my question, are you the kelty gangster ?

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 26 Nov 22:38

Ha ha, no. No gangland connections and don`t even live in Kelty these days.

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Topic Originator: gegganpar  
Date:   Mon 27 Nov 11:21

🤣👍

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Topic Originator: Murchadh  
Date:   Fri 5 Jan 21:59

Completely responsible for the injury situation, of that there is no doubt. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.

Rigidly sticks to 3-5-2 even when we don’t have any fit centre halfs. Dundee fans were frustrated by this and we should be as well.

Mehmet on a 3 year deal and Slow-Joe on a 2 year deal even though they have previous at this level of being hopeless.

Just lost on live television to a team arguably worse than the Dumbarton team of 1995/1996. We also looked worse than that Dumbarton team, which is worrying.

Relegation looming. Feel free to bookmark this, I’m always 100% correct 100% of the time.

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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Fri 5 Jan 22:05

Bore off, here`s the attention you ordered.
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Topic Originator: Murchadh  
Date:   Fri 5 Jan 22:09

Yawn. Do you have an actual opinion to provide? Probably not, nothing to refute.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 5 Jan 22:44

You make Berkey seem like an optimist. When was the last time you posted?

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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 5 Jan 22:48

I was actually going to post the same thing, wee eck




It`s bloody tough being a legend
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Topic Originator: Boomer  
Date:   Sat 6 Jan 01:00

Do you just watch us on Tv Murchadh or are you a true supporter?
You need a dose of reality which might be difficult for your tiny mind. Yes we were poor tonight but with numerous injuries and at least 3 players on the park not fully fit it was always going to be tough. We are not going down COYP!

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 6 Jan 07:50

Wee eck, I feel like I should be paying you rent…

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 6 Jan 08:19

You`ve got some ego, Berkey. It`s all about you, eh?
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 6 Jan 08:21

For you it seems to be, why else am you bringing me up in this thread?

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 6 Jan 08:42

Because you and Murchadh have never made a positive post between you for all the time I`ve been on this forum.
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Topic Originator: Parster  
Date:   Sat 6 Jan 08:56

The we should be winning the league brigade are out in force results haven`t been great but that could be put down to numerous things yes we could blame the manager yes we could blame the board we could blame the young players we could blame the experienced players who aren`t helping the young lads as much as they should however this unrealistic opinion from certain supporters that we should be top of the league is probably putting more pressure on everyone and before the boo boys jump on me yes we all want to play and be better sometimes you don`t always get what you think you deserve players and staff come and go but without supporters you aren`t a club so why not take a good look at yourselves in the mirror remember why you first came to watch the pars get behind the club or sit in the house

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 6 Jan 08:56

What a soul destroying place this forum can be when we don`t win.

I honestly think the club would be better off without some of the "fans" we have.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 6 Jan 09:19

Parster, I`ve not heard from, spoken to or read about a single Pars fan who expects us to be even challenging for the title, let alone winning the division. Why make up such nonsense?

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 6 Jan 09:20

I don`t participate in the East End Bounce Forum but I like to dip into it occasionally. The comments there tend to be much more balanced and there`s not so much of the knee-jerk negativity which is so typical of this forum unfortunately. There`s also an appreciation of what players like Chalmers and Wighton bring to the team. I think many of the contributors used to participate in this forum but got so frustrated with it that they left and started another one.
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Topic Originator: yorkiepar  
Date:   Sat 6 Jan 09:31

Murchadh is an obvious pseudonym, Wee Eck. The postings only ever appear when a bit of a crisis arises and whoever he/she is they certainly couldn’t be considered a “supporter” of the Pars. It’s such an attention-seeking ploy you really have to feel desperately sorry for them. Their endless negativity implies a worrying state of mental health.

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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 6 Jan 10:19

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da_no_1, Sat 6 Jan 08:56

What a soul destroying place this forum can be when we don`t win.

I honestly think the club would be better off without some of the "fans" we have.


They would. We have a great fanbase but there are some who just destroy players at will. The most difficult job the manager has isnt finding new players its restoring confidence in existing players after they have read dotnet 🤣

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Topic Originator: NW 1966  
Date:   Sat 6 Jan 18:22

McFake, what a terrible way to refer to our manager.
Bunch of bed wetters among our support, self entitled and embarrassing.

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Topic Originator: Murchadh  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 20:23

Alan Hansen was correct - you don’t win anything with kids.

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Topic Originator: NW 1966  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 20:39

Bollocks

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Topic Originator: Murchadh  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 20:50

0-5

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Topic Originator: NW 1966  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 20:53

Aye OK Bobo. We know that.

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 20:58

Let`s judge the management team at the end of the season.
Losts of games to be played, we are capable of playing good football when everyone is avaliable and playing in their position.
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Topic Originator: cfad  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 21:06

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Rigger Al, Sat 3 Feb 20:58

Let`s judge the management team at the end of the season.
Losts of games to be played, we are capable of playing good football when everyone is avaliable and playing in their position.


Yep. Funny, McPake was a superhero end of last season, and now he’s a absolute disaster for some in the space of 6 months
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 21:12

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Rigger Al, Sat 3 Feb 20:58

Let`s judge the management team at the end of the season.
Losts of games to be played, we are capable of playing good football when everyone is avaliable and playing in their position.


When will everyone be available?

We just lost 5-0 at home to Morton and haven`t won in 7 games and heading towards 9th place. I think judgement is needed in the next few weeks.
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 21:40

A lot of pressure on Bene and comrie, the other that are missing are unproven at this level so we can’t rely on them.

Lose the next 2 and the question changes from can we afford to change manager to can we afford not to roll the dice and hope someone else can steady the ship.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 21:41

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Berkey, Sat 3 Feb 21:40

A lot of pressure on Bene and comrie, the other that are missing are unproven at this level so we can’t rely on them.

Lose the next 2 and the question changes from can we afford to change manager to can we afford not to roll the dice and hope someone else can steady the ship.


Lose the next 2 and McPake has to go.
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Topic Originator: Murchadh  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 21:48

He should go now, but NW 1966 would rather try and deflect.

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Topic Originator: Kozmano1  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 22:06

I see the usual wannabe football academics on here are not happy, because fans have an opinion, they don’t agree with. It’s a forum. Mcpake is on the ropes and so he should be!

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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 22:40

Its ridiculous to suggest sacking a manager that has had half his first team missing most of the season.
Pity some can`t accept the effect that has to have. He`s made mistakes and today was a big one but I think he`s a decent guy that deserves our support at times like this.
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Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 22:47

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JTH123, Sat 3 Feb 22:40

Its ridiculous to suggest sacking a manager that has had half his first team missing most of the season.
Pity some can`t accept the effect that has to have. He`s made mistakes and today was a big one but I think he`s a decent guy that deserves our support at times like this.


It`s not ridiculous, he is responsible for the SQUAD, his job is to get enough good results to keep us in this league if it begins to look like we are not going to achieve that then his position has to be questioned. He has the next two matches to prove that he is good enough. Bad results in these two games and it`s over.
I don`t want it to be the case but if he is still here and we have only achieved say 2 points from 6, then we should be questioning the board.
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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 22:57

You`ve just confirmed what I said above.

He`ll be going nowhere this season and probably not next season either unless he resigns.
The board will look at what was achieved last season and expect him to repeat it even if we go down unless we crash badly even when Bene etc come back.
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Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 23:05

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JTH123, Sat 3 Feb 22:57

You`ve just confirmed what I said above.

He`ll be going nowhere this season and probably not next season either unless he resigns.
The board will look at what was achieved last season and expect him to repeat it even if we go down unless we crash badly even when Bene etc come back.


What you said above implies that he deserves to not have his ability questioned. Which is incorrect.

If we survive in the championship with him In charge then he has met his goals for the season. The next two matches are both 6 pointers.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 23:10

If we get beat next week I can’t see how Mcpake can carry on. Too stubborn to move away from the back 5 and we can’t score goals. Board probably won’t do it, would be good to see our absent owners take some more involvement



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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 23:18

Of course his ability should be questioned when things don`t go well but not when the squad is decimated and his options are severely limited. He`s a young manager making his way in the game and he`s made mistakes. Today, the evening cup game against Raith and the way he set them up against Ayr at home being the worst I can think of.
Further up this thread you`ve got him sacked if the next 2 games go badly then completely contradicted yourself by saying he`ll have achieved his objectives if we stay up at the end of the season. Which is it to be?
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Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 23:25

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JTH123, Sat 3 Feb 23:18

Of course his ability should be questioned when things don`t go well but not when the squad is decimated and his options are severely limited. He`s a young manager making his way in the game and he`s made mistakes. Today, the evening cup game against Raith and the way he set them up against Ayr at home being the worst I can think of.
Further up this thread you`ve got him sacked if the next 2 games go badly then completely contradicted yourself by saying he`ll have achieved his objectives if we stay up at the end of the season. Which is it to be?


If for example we lose next week and are sitting 9th then we are on course for not achieving our goals for the season, and we will have to act due to the manner of the performances recently.

it wouldn`t have been anywhere near as bad if we lost 1-0 today but that was beyond bad.

Today, raith at home, QP away, Ayr at home and ayr away were shocking (2 nil up to 2-2 )
Even morton away live on telly we were rubbish 2nd half and very lucky.

I`m a happy clapper....I want him to succeed......the fact is.....this is now getting to the point where it is not good enough.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 23:29

Injuries excuse is wearing thin. We’ve just had a transfer window and we have filled the squad with kids who’ve barely played first team games. Board failing to back the manager

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 3 Feb 23:59

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parsfan97, Sat 3 Feb 23:29

Injuries excuse is wearing thin. We’ve just had a transfer window and we have filled the squad with kids who’ve barely played first team games. Board failing to back the manager


No it`s not ! It`s still there ,the concern is the quality of new signings
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Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 01:54

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Rigger Al, Sat 03 Feb 20:58

Let`s judge the management team at the end of the season.
Losts of games to be played, we are capable of playing good football when everyone is avaliable and playing in their position.


Like me you have probably seen this movie a few times and will know how it ends face it the good ship Dunfermline is rudderless under its present command and looks to be sinking faster than the titanic do you honestly see it getting any better? Bare in mind that team today bar Xavier Benjamin and wighton was the same team who played outstandingly well last weekend and got a point off the team that will in all likelihood be the league champions yet here we are getting sparked 5-0 at home your right in saying mcpake will be judged at the end of the season but I fear it will be to late by then

Come on ye pars ⚽️
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 02:13

I worry about our finances. Are these Germans taking cash out of the club ? McPake hasn’t been backed at all. Lost out on good players because we can’t offer a decent wage.
It doesn’t it add up to me .
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 06:04

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cfad, Sat 3 Feb 21:06

Quote:

Rigger Al, Sat 3 Feb 20:58

Let`s judge the management team at the end of the season.
Losts of games to be played, we are capable of playing good football when everyone is avaliable and playing in their position.


Yep. Funny, McPake was a superhero end of last season, and now he’s a absolute disaster for some in the space of 6 months


Superhero is a bit of a stretch. We won the league at a canter with players who we were all told were good enough at winning the championship.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt the fact he was lumbered with imposters like Chalmers Mehmet and wighton and he gives them new multi year deals and they are still the same charlatans they were the last time we were at this level.

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 07:36

Sergio even though they are youngsters we might find the 2 we got from the old firm are our highest earners….

The worrying thing for me is that the players haven’t downed tools here as they want the manager gone, the truth is they are just not good enough.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 07:50

cammypar, why do you constantly repeat this nonsense that people said the squad last year were good enough to win the Championship. Point me in the direction of anyone who said thst at the time please. I think I could be waiting a while.

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 07:55

We had a squad capable of winning the league which was said in numerous interviews with the manager and also numerous pundits. If you listened to sportsound after most games it was "I can`t believe Dunfermline are where they are with the squad they have".

The aim was promotion under grant so he surely signed guys who he thought would achieve that. And last season most found their level.

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 09:30

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cammypar 1995, Sun 4 Feb 07:55

We had a squad capable of winning the league which was said in numerous interviews with the manager and also numerous pundits. If you listened to sportsound after most games it was "I can`t believe Dunfermline are where they are with the squad they have".

The aim was promotion under grant so he surely signed guys who he thought would achieve that. And last season most found their level.


Pretty sure this is about how I remember things too
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 09:37

A couple of brainless pr1cks on Sportsound (probably Allan Preston and Kenny McIntyre) and an ex-manager who`s found his level on Sportsound does not count as everyone.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 09:40

What has it got to do with McPake if someone who is no longer at the club or `pundits` said we had a squad capable of winning the Championship two seasons ago? There`s a lot of emotional, irrational stuff posted on here after a woeful performance like yesterday`s but that one I just don`t get.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 09:52

There`s no dispute yesterday was absolutely dreadful, potentially one of the worst ever, certainly top (bottom) 5 in my lifetime but is perverse to suggest McPake should lose his job.

Absolutely hamstrung (pardon the pun) by injuries all season, particularly our three most effective players. The players that turn losses into draws and draws into wins.

It`s clear we`re running on a strict budget with a clear policy on this training academy, for better for worse. You can jump up and down and not like it, but it is what it is. It seems clear that McPake has identified several more senior players in the last two windows but we`ve not offered the right deals.

Therefore your beef is really with the board.

Need to keep the heid and try and fight our way out of this. I`d be extremely disappointed if we roll the dice and find the money to pay compensation to change management team. That money would have been better spent on a player or two.

Therefore I find myself in a loop where the only conclusion is we are where we are and we better hope that two of Bene, KRH and Todd can come in and turn our momentum round sharpish.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 09:53

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da_no_1, Sun 4 Feb 09:37

A couple of brainless pr1cks on Sportsound (probably Allan Preston and Kenny McIntyre) and an ex-manager who`s found his level on Sportsound does not count as everyone.[/quote

Kenny miller as well as si ferry, andy Halliday, Derek Ferguson just to name another few. Management who signed these charlatans as well. I`m sure Ross MC Arthur came out with similar quotes as well The proof is there for everyone to see.

We can`t get away from it we signed guys not good enough at the level to multi year contracts and that`s shown on the park and it was clear for all to see yesterday. Alongside these we have signed others who also aren`t at this level maybe apart from Hamilton and Ottoo and at a push bene.

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 09:54

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cammypar 1995, Sun 4 Feb 09:53

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da_no_1, Sun 4 Feb 09:37

A couple of brainless pr1cks on Sportsound (probably Allan Preston and Kenny McIntyre) and an ex-manager who`s found his level on Sportsound does not count as everyone.[/quote

Kenny miller as well as si ferry, andy Halliday, Derek Ferguson just to name another few. Management who signed these charlatans as well. I`m sure Ross MC Arthur came out with similar quotes as well The proof is there for everyone to see.

We can`t get away from it we signed guys not good enough at the level to multi year contracts and that`s shown on the park and it was clear for all to see yesterday. Alongside these we have signed others who also aren`t at this level maybe apart from Hamilton and Ottoo and at a push bene.


How do you explain us being 4th in the league, relatively comfortably, even with injuries before the crisis hit?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 09:56

None of them would`ve watched us play. None of them would`ve watched the championship. I might be wrong but I can`t remember RM saying we would win the league.

We were doing absolutely fine, without necessarily tearing it up, until mid December when the injuries really did start to pile up. That's a fact.

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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 10:03

I don`t think that behind closed doors, the target would have been promotion from the championship this season. More realistically, I suspect it would have been to make the playoffs.. I think you have to be honest and call out yesterday`s performance for what it was. Where we go from here, I`m not sure. I think the new training centre in Rosyth and the squad are two separate issues. One is to build a facility, the other is to build a team capable of competing in the championship and then push for promotion in a year or two.
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Topic Originator: Gem 1977  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 10:07

[I]Kenny miller as well as si ferry, andy Halliday, Derek Ferguson just to name another few.

🤣🤣🤣 Si Ferry and Andy Halliday, ffs.

Pair of brainless pricks!

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 10:14

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da_no_1, Sun 4 Feb 09:56

None of them would`ve watched us play. None of them would`ve watched the championship. I might be wrong but I can`t remember RM saying we would win the league.

We were doing absolutely fine, without necessarily tearing it up, until mid December when the injuries really did start to pile up. That`s a fact.


Yep then we signed unknown untested players in January that will keep us up. We have strikers who couldn`t hit a coo in the bottom with a banjo. The injuries play a part but yesterday we still had 4 players given multi year contracts by this manager who clearly thinks they are championship players. O`Too who is probably our highest or definitely one of the highest earners. Ohalloran who hasn`t done much when he has been fit. Moffat and summers when we need our so called better players were missing. Edwards who can`t cross a road and 2 strikers who don`t score.

It`s not like we are playing with a team full of 16 year olds who have never played senior football before.

A squad who mcpake has built and unfortunately showed no character yesterday and that`s definitely a worry when we are almost certainly in a relegation battle where you need a bit of dig.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 10:17

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cammypar 1995, Sun 4 Feb 10:14

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da_no_1, Sun 4 Feb 09:56

None of them would`ve watched us play. None of them would`ve watched the championship. I might be wrong but I can`t remember RM saying we would win the league.

We were doing absolutely fine, without necessarily tearing it up, until mid December when the injuries really did start to pile up. That`s a fact.


Yep then we signed unknown untested players in January that will keep us up. We have strikers who couldn`t hit a coo in the bottom with a banjo. The injuries play a part but yesterday we still had 4 players given multi year contracts by this manager who clearly thinks they are championship players. O`Too who is probably our highest or definitely one of the highest earners. Ohalloran who hasn`t done much when he has been fit. Moffat and summers when we need our so called better players were missing. Edwards who can`t cross a road and 2 strikers who don`t score.

It`s not like we are playing with a team full of 16 year olds who have never played senior football before.

A squad who mcpake has built and unfortunately showed no character yesterday and that`s definitely a worry when we are almost certainly in a relegation battle where you need a bit of dig.


Are you saying Otoo and Edwards aren`t championship players?

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Topic Originator: Kozmano1  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 10:20

Get the man with the bunnet, back in the dugout lol.

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 10:27

So we`ve gone from McPake had a squad that were good enough to win the Championship, to Grant and Hughes had players that people on the radio thought were too good to go down? We`re talking about the squad that McPake had, not the season before. So who has said that the squad McPake had in League One were good enough to win the Championship? I`ll give you a hint. Nobody did.

Even if you`re trying to compare apples with oranges, McPake didn`t have the following players (for better or worse) that played under Grant and Hughes: Stolarczyk, Fon Williams, Donaldson, Ambrose, Graham, Whittaker, Watson, Connolly, Jones, Gaspuitis, Polwarth, Lawless, Dorrans*, Cole, Pybus, Dow, Kamwa, Kennedy, Thomas.

*Dorrans left after the season had started having not played under McPake AFAIR.

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 10:27

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cammypar 1995, Sun 4 Feb 09:53

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da_no_1, Sun 4 Feb 09:37

A couple of brainless pr1cks on Sportsound (probably Allan Preston and Kenny McIntyre) and an ex-manager who`s found his level on Sportsound does not count as everyone.[/quote

Kenny miller as well as si ferry, andy Halliday, Derek Ferguson just to name another few. Management who signed these charlatans as well. I`m sure Ross MC Arthur came out with similar quotes as well The proof is there for everyone to see.

We can`t get away from it we signed guys not good enough at the level to multi year contracts and that`s shown on the park and it was clear for all to see yesterday. Alongside these we have signed others who also aren`t at this level maybe apart from Hamilton and Ottoo and at a push bene.


Nope if you see this I say him Hamilton and at a push bene.

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 10:31

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kelty_par, Sun 4 Feb 10:27

So we`ve gone from McPake had a squad that were good enough to win the Championship, to Grant and Hughes had players that people on the radio thought were too good to go down? We`re talking about the squad that McPake had, not the season before. So who has said that the squad McPake had in League One were good enough to win the Championship? I`ll give you a hint. Nobody did.

Even if you`re trying to compare apples with oranges, McPake didn`t have the following players (for better or worse) that played under Grant and Hughes: Stolarczyk, Fon Williams, Donaldson, Ambrose, Graham, Whittaker, Watson, Connolly, Jones, Gaspuitis, Polwarth, Lawless, Dorrans*, Cole, Pybus, Dow, Kamwa, Kennedy, Thomas.

*Dorrans left after the season had started having not played under McPake AFAIR.



Again we have players who were relegated the last time they were in this league. At the time we were told they could win the league they got relegated we won the league with a squad who the season before were going for promotion in the higher league. They were found out and we have offered them new deals in the league they struggled in when they last played here. And surprise surprise they are struggling again.

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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 10:57

Bene and Toddy are huge voids, but no excuses. We are a terrible watch and at this rate we WILL go down. Something drastic needs to change. If it isn`t the manager, then it has to be the manager`s approach to matches. He was very wise to chop and change tactics when necessary last season, but isn`t doing it this season. We need to get back to basics, but it`s really hard when your midfield options are rotten and this then leads to the young defenders collapsing. Fearing the worst after yesterday tbh.

When are Comrie, Toddy and Bene back anyway? I`d be a lot more confident if we had them coming back soon. It`s obvious that experience and willingness to take the game by the scruff is massively missing in the middle of the pitch as well as defence.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 11:24

I`ve never understood this claim that any player who has been part of a relegated squad should be scarred with this for the rest of their career. If that were the case a lot of footballers would be doomed to stay at a certain level and deemed to be incapable of improvement.

In our case players like McCann and Todd were quite peripheral during our relegation season, Wighton was actually loaned out to Arbroath for the second half of that season I think and Edwards has just been the subject of a 6-figure offer from an English League 1 club apparently.

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 12:21

Wee eck, didn’t yogi make McCann his main centre forward once he came in? 22 league games suggest he wasn’t peripheral.

Todd played a lot too, but as a right back where he was prob our best player.

Can’t reinvent the past because you like McCann, look at the highlights from goals 2 and 3 yesterday, turned his back on the ball for 2nd and not bothering to compete on the 3rd.

Edwards is decent defensively but can’t cross, in our system we want him to get wide and get the crosses in….

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 12:30

Pretty accurate post Berkey when you look at it like that !
Bottom line is we were rank rotten yeaterday no fight at all either , and this disappoints me , as far as I am concerned about every goal was avoidable , too many players switching off and not challenging etc , McPake needs to have a wee look at the midfield , this is where we need tougher players that will challenge which in turn might take a wee bit pressure off the back line , would also help if we could move the ball faster, this slow stuff is not working ,
Anyway back to the title
I still believe Mcpake will get it sorted out ! and I disagree with all those wanting him out , they are entitled to their opinion like anyone else but getting rid of a manager now would certainly see us in a lower league

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Topic Originator: PansPar  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 13:27

Frustration is totally understandable after yesterday.

This looks to me like a squad of players with their heads down and very little confidence, which is one of the most worrying things for me as they need to fight over the next few weeks to finish above 9th. I won`t call out any players for criticism in this situation, particularly the younger lads. Management need to find a way to lift them pronto - the onus is firmly on them here.


I think McPake deserves a chance to turn this around, but to do so he has to show that he can mix things up over the next few games. Every other team can see us coming a mile off right now.

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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 13:50

Imagine coming on an internet forum, as a fan of a club, and calling ex professionals “brainless pr*cks” because their opinion is irrelevant to you….said “brainless pr*cks” have played at the highest level in the country, for numerous years, and in internationals, have coaching qualifications and are agents within the game.

But nah, some jumped up old fart thats never even played Sunday League reckons they are “brainless” because they dont agree with them 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

And to claim these guys have never watched the Champ/League One is staggering given that they cover these games regularly week in week out 😂
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Topic Originator: 1600E  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 14:57

Its his team and not looking like anything other a team going down
Might be too late to do anything Dave_1885 wrote:

> Imagine coming on an internet forum, as a fan of a club, and
> calling ex professionals “brainless pr*cks” because their
> opinion is irrelevant to you….said “brainless pr*cks”
> have played at the highest level in the country, for numerous
> years, and in internationals, have coaching qualifications and
> are agents within the game.
>
> But nah, some jumped up old fart thats never even played Sunday
> League reckons they are “brainless” because they dont agree
> with them 😂🤦🏻‍♂️
>
> And to claim these guys have never watched the Champ/League One
> is staggering given that they cover these games regularly week
> in week out 😂

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 15:09

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Dave_1885, Sun 4 Feb 13:50

Imagine coming on an internet forum, as a fan of a club, and calling ex professionals “brainless pr*cks” because their opinion is irrelevant to you….said “brainless pr*cks” have played at the highest level in the country, for numerous years, and in internationals, have coaching qualifications and are agents within the game.

But nah, some jumped up old fart thats never even played Sunday League reckons they are “brainless” because they dont agree with them 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

And to claim these guys have never watched the Champ/League One is staggering given that they cover these games regularly week in week out 😂


You think and Allan "Biscuits" Preston watches the championship every week?

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 15:11

I`m not saying that we didn`t have some players who should be operating at the top end of the championship but you claimed McPake had a squad "people" said were capable of winning the second tier. Keep moving the goalposts all you like, it doesn`t change anything. That squad last year was a good League One squad, but not a good Championship level squad. The fact that we`ve kept the majority of those players this season and only added one or two and are struggling tells you that. The fact thst many of those same players struggled the last time at this level tells you that. I don`t know why you continue trying to defend that position when you yourself have moved the goalposts so many times. It`s bizarre. Especially when essentially you`re agreeing with my position that we only have about 7 players who are clearly Championship standard and the rest aren`t.

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Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 15:15

The fact he thinks si ferry played at the highest level in the country is what made me chuckle and as for Andy Halliday the least said about him the better

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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 15:39

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da_no_1, Sun 4 Feb 15:09

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Dave_1885, Sun 4 Feb 13:50

Imagine coming on an internet forum, as a fan of a club, and calling ex professionals “brainless pr*cks” because their opinion is irrelevant to you….said “brainless pr*cks” have played at the highest level in the country, for numerous years, and in internationals, have coaching qualifications and are agents within the game.

But nah, some jumped up old fart thats never even played Sunday League reckons they are “brainless” because they dont agree with them 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

And to claim these guys have never watched the Champ/League One is staggering given that they cover these games regularly week in week out 😂


You think and Allan "Biscuits" Preston watches the championship every week?


He literally provides open mic commentary on our home games if neither Edinburgh club is at home……so yes, I do
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 15:56

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Dave_1885, Sun 4 Feb 15:39

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da_no_1, Sun 4 Feb 15:09

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Dave_1885, Sun 4 Feb 13:50

Imagine coming on an internet forum, as a fan of a club, and calling ex professionals “brainless pr*cks” because their opinion is irrelevant to you….said “brainless pr*cks” have played at the highest level in the country, for numerous years, and in internationals, have coaching qualifications and are agents within the game.

But nah, some jumped up old fart thats never even played Sunday League reckons they are “brainless” because they dont agree with them 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

And to claim these guys have never watched the Champ/League One is staggering given that they cover these games regularly week in week out 😂


You think and Allan "Biscuits" Preston watches the championship every week?


He literally provides open mic commentary on our home games if neither Edinburgh club is at home……so yes, I do


So, thanks for confirming he doesn`t watch the championship every week. FYI he was at Dens Park yesterday watching Hearts.

Inserting "literally" before posting doesn`t make you look clever by the way.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 16:06

Allan Preston usually covers his old clubs in the Premiership (Hearts, Livi, SJ) plus Hibs or Dundee United rather than the Pars. Isn`t Andy Halliday still playing?

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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 16:18

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da_no_1, Sun 4 Feb 15:56

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Dave_1885, Sun 4 Feb 15:39

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da_no_1, Sun 4 Feb 15:09

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Dave_1885, Sun 4 Feb 13:50

Imagine coming on an internet forum, as a fan of a club, and calling ex professionals “brainless pr*cks” because their opinion is irrelevant to you….said “brainless pr*cks” have played at the highest level in the country, for numerous years, and in internationals, have coaching qualifications and are agents within the game.

But nah, some jumped up old fart thats never even played Sunday League reckons they are “brainless” because they dont agree with them 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

And to claim these guys have never watched the Champ/League One is staggering given that they cover these games regularly week in week out 😂


You think and Allan "Biscuits" Preston watches the championship every week?


He literally provides open mic commentary on our home games if neither Edinburgh club is at home……so yes, I do


So, thanks for confirming he doesn`t watch the championship every week. FYI he was at Dens Park yesterday watching Hearts.

Inserting "literally" before posting doesn`t make you look clever by the way.


Must be a brainless pr*ck if commentating on top level games then eh? 🤷🏻‍♂️ do you know specifically that he doesnt watch highlights etc of Championship games btw? Or just guessing to try make your point sound valid?

Given hes an agent with a fair few names on his books in Scotland, Id imagine he isnt that useless…..

But then again that doesnt fit the narrative of everything being ok and hunky dory!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 16:28

No one has said everything is hunky dory. Grow up

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 17:06

Haven’t seen Biscuits at EEP for a few months now so that’s nonsense about him being there whenever Hearts aren’t playing, and I should know!

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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 18:02

24 hours later and that result still cuts deep. Mcpake needs to be judged when he gets his injured players back.
We’ll be a different team with the likes of Benny and Comrie back in the side. One player shouldn’t make a difference but Benny is massive for us. Pray he is close to a full return soon.
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 18:19

Bene coming back will be absolutely massive.

Going on the debut yesterday it’s literally swapping a guy who I’m not sure can play football to a reasonable standard with a championship level proven defender

Just imagine if we were able to bring another 1 or 2 at Bene’s level in midfield and upfront.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 18:25

“Bene coming back will be absolutely massive.”

Agreed - but we can’t wait till then - Easter possibly!

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 18:34

Easter! There will only be about 4-5 leagues games left by then.

If we knew that last week it’s even worse we didn’t bring an older head in….

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 18:38

The thread title just says it all really with the .net community….

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 18:49

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Berkey, Sun 4 Feb 18:34

Easter! There will only be about 4-5 leagues games left by then.

If we knew that last week it’s even worse we didn’t bring an older head in….


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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 18:49

I believe the manager had experienced players in mind ,but what the players wanted to come and what the board would agree to is a big contributing factor .
I don`t believe for a miniute, the management team identified your players against experienced players ,I believe this is down to the board .
Unfortunately, the board is not only setting up the management for failure but also our great club
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 18:54

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Rusty Shackleford, Sun 4 Feb 09:52

There`s no dispute yesterday was absolutely dreadful, potentially one of the worst ever, certainly top (bottom) 5 in my lifetime but is perverse to suggest McPake should lose his job.

Absolutely hamstrung (pardon the pun) by injuries all season, particularly our three most effective players. The players that turn losses into draws and draws into wins.

It`s clear we`re running on a strict budget with a clear policy on this training academy, for better for worse. You can jump up and down and not like it, but it is what it is. It seems clear that McPake has identified several more senior players in the last two windows but we`ve not offered the right deals.

Therefore your beef is really with the board.

Need to keep the heid and try and fight our way out of this. I`d be extremely disappointed if we roll the dice and find the money to pay compensation to change management team. That money would have been better spent on a player or two.

Therefore I find myself in a loop where the only conclusion is we are where we are and we better hope that two of Bene, KRH and Todd can come in and turn our momentum round sharpish.


Too much sense this!
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Topic Originator: broontroot  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 18:57

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Rigger Al, Sun 4 Feb 18:49

I believe the manager had experienced players in mind ,but what the players wanted to come and what the board would agree to is a big contributing factor .
I don`t believe for a miniute, the management team identified your players against experienced players ,I believe this is down to the board .
Unfortunately, the board is not only setting up the management for failure but also our great club




This !!!
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 19:09

`Unfortunately, the board is not only setting up the management for failure but also our great club`

Why would the board set up the club for failure having invested so much in it?

I also find it difficult to believe the board identifies the players we sign. I would imagine the manager does that and the board, in the person of David Cook, might get involved if there was an impact on the player budget either this season or a future season if length of contract was an issue. I`d imagine that`s the way it works at most clubs.

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 19:22

Wee Eck
My statement was simply if the board don`t see we need experienced players at this time and don`t do what is needed then we are setting up for failure
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 19:25

who do we think sanctioned the loan signing of the Cardiff youngsters?

I’m not convinced mcpake went to Cardiff to watch them play to check they could make an impact in our first team in the next 4 months. Who is making the decisions?

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: The Boss  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 19:34

Looking back at the goals they look worse than when at the game.

All over social media we are getting torn apart by folk about the standard of defending. It’s embarrassing. It is some of the worst defending you are likely to see in a professional game.

I hope the players and manager are seeing this on social media too.

I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 19:35

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Berkey, Sun 4 Feb 19:25

who do we think sanctioned the loan signing of the Cardiff youngsters?

I’m not convinced mcpake went to Cardiff to watch them play to check they could make an impact in our first team in the next 4 months. Who is making the decisions?


I think McPake said on COWS that he`d seen "footage" of one Cardiff player.



Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 19:43

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GG Riva, Sun 04 Feb 19:35

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Berkey, Sun 4 Feb 19:25

who do we think sanctioned the loan signing of the Cardiff youngsters?

I’m not convinced mcpake went to Cardiff to watch them play to check they could make an impact in our first team in the next 4 months. Who is making the decisions?


I think McPake said on COWS that he`d seen "footage" of one Cardiff player.


And it will no doubt have only been good footage

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 19:50

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Berkey, Sun 4 Feb 19:25

who do we think sanctioned the loan signing of the Cardiff youngsters?

I’m not convinced mcpake went to Cardiff to watch them play to check they could make an impact in our first team in the next 4 months. Who is making the decisions?


I think McPake said on COWS that he`d seen "footage" of one Cardiff player.


And it will no doubt have only been good footage


A nailed on certainty. And if he was told at the end of the window that these are the only players we can get in, would he have turned them down?



Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 19:54

Oh geez, all this talk of bringing in quality over quantity and doing our due diligence on players etc and now we are signing boys based on some selective footage where they were playing other academy youngsters?

So let me get this right, during an injury and form crisis we took a total punt on 2 loans with no idea if they are anywhere the standard required to make any impact at this level……i’m lost for words. Surely Fenton would have done better than Benjamin?

Just what is our strategy? Feels like we no longer have one.



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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 20:10

Let`s be honest, none of us are party to the details of budgets, contracts or loans. Nor should we be.
We have no idea how much budget he had saved back for Jan or whether medical bills have eroded it.
Maybe the young loanees are costing nothing but their accommodation etc as their parent clubs just want them playing.
I`ve no idea but these things are not impossible.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 20:15

If folk don`t know the facts they just make things up to fit their theories. It`s the .net way or, more generally, the social media way. I`ve often wondered if folk apply this approach to other aspects of their lives or is it only for football?

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Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 20:50

Our beloved club is a mess! That I would say no one can argue with. Our last couple of transfer windows have been to put it lightly - poor! Yes we signed KRH and Otoo at the start of the season but they were already with us the previous season so I’m not counting them as ‘new players’.

Surely to get the best out of young players you’d need to put established professionals around them for them to learn from. As we saw yesterday without that the young players are just going to make natural mistakes and mistakes cost goals which then affects the players confidence…. And then you are locked into a vicious circle that will help nobody, least of all the players.

It’s strange the management team don’t see this (2 windows no established professionals signed). However, and I’ve said this multiple times, our scouting “system” seems poor if not non-existent! Our Chief Scout can be found EVERY Saturday sitting on our bench!! Why?? I know he has a full time job with the council but surely on a Saturday he should be running the rule over potential players not watching our own players!! I actually work within football and work at various grounds within the Premier League on match days so work almost every Saturday and Weekday there’s a game on and not once have I seen our Chief Scout, Manager or anyone connected to the club at a game I’ve worked. I was at the Livi v Ross County last Tuesday which was before the deadline and I expected to see someone from our club but no! Motherwell and a few others were represented but no-one from EEP!

So quite frankly we need some BIG changes or we could be looking at Div 1 again.

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Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 20:58

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ParfectXI, Sun 4 Feb 20:50

Our beloved club is a mess! That I would say no one can argue with. Our last couple of transfer windows have been to put it lightly - poor! Yes we signed KRH and Otoo at the start of the season but they were already with us the previous season so I’m not counting them as ‘new players’.

Surely to get the best out of young players you’d need to put established professionals around them for them to learn from. As we saw yesterday without that the young players are just going to make natural mistakes and mistakes cost goals which then affects the players confidence…. And then you are locked into a vicious circle that will help nobody, least of all the players.

It’s strange the management team don’t see this (2 windows no established professionals signed). However, and I’ve said this multiple times, our scouting “system” seems poor if not non-existent! Our Chief Scout can be found EVERY Saturday sitting on our bench!! Why?? I know he has a full time job with the council but surely on a Saturday he should be running the rule over potential players not watching our own players!! I actually work within football and work at various grounds within the Premier League on match days so work almost every Saturday and Weekday there’s a game on and not once have I seen our Chief Scout, Manager or anyone connected to the club at a game I’ve worked. I was at the Livi v Ross County last Tuesday which was before the deadline and I expected to see someone from our club but no! Motherwell and a few others were represented but no-one from EEP!

So quite frankly we need some BIG changes or we could be looking at Div 1 again.


TBF you can`t just disregard the signings of Otoo and KRH to suit ur narrative,

It could be argued that with Otoo KRH and fisher it was a half decent summer window
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 21:06

It`s got all the makings of financial issues within the club .Before I get attacked here this is just my opinion :):)
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 4 Feb 21:21

`2 windows no established professionals signed`

Weren`t O`Halloran and Jakubiak established professionals?

`It`s got all the makings of financial issues within the club .Before I get attacked here this is just my opinion :):)`

OK, I`ll ask the question again as I haven`t seen an answer to it - If there are financial issues at the club why did we turn down a six-figure bid for Edwards? Surely we should have been biting their hand off?

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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Mon 5 Feb 02:04

Can we stop calling them the ‘German Investors’ ?

‘The Germans’ is a far more accurate description.
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Topic Originator: bannerpar  
Date:   Mon 5 Feb 20:29

So they are not investors! I thought it showed in the club`s annual accounts that they invested in buying a majority of the club`s shares. I must have dreamt that.

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Topic Originator: Murchadh  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:59

As always, I’m 100% spot on. McFake out!

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:02

He really should be but he won’t be, he’ll take us down and then wighton will suddenly regain his fitness and chalmers will get the freedom of the park and we’ll be decent in league 1 and then he’ll give them new deals when we come back up.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:04

Actually frightened again for the existence of our club under the German frauds. They should be told to do one!!!! This is their making….
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:12

Something very sinister about these Germans . Money magically disappeared out the club . Kevin Nisbet money . Dodgy deals regarding Training grounds. Get them out .
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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:17

Who`s going to buy us ?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:19

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Tenruh, Sat 10 Feb 17:17

Who`s going to buy us ?


That`s exactly it. People seem to think we are some big fish. Reality is someone could have bought us for pennies nobody came forward hence why we are left with the current BOD who nobody has seen or heard from since we were promoted. Unfortunately we aren`t a great prospect for anyone with good intentions.

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:18

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SergioDuarte, Sat 10 Feb 17:12

Something very sinister about these Germans . Money magically disappeared out the club . Kevin Nisbet money . Dodgy deals regarding Training grounds. Get them out .


What money has disappeared and what dodgy deals are you talking about?
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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:33

Probably the wrong thread for this

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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 19:41

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kelty_par, Sat 10 Feb 18:33

Probably the wrong thread for this


Probably your right....this all goes back to Mathisons tenure of the club. The community club project was a failure, and when the individuals realise it they sold out to a group of investors who surprisingly will take what profits they can get.
Where we are now is where we`ll be in 10 years time at best.
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 14:14

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Kdy Par, Sat 10 Feb 18:18

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SergioDuarte, Sat 10 Feb 17:12

Something very sinister about these Germans . Money magically disappeared out the club . Kevin Nisbet money . Dodgy deals regarding Training grounds. Get them out .


What money has disappeared and what dodgy deals are you talking about?


Nisbet money . 35% of sell on that was put out on here by club place men.
That money has vanished.
Unable to offer decent wages . Training ground that had taken 3 years.
Zero investment in the squad .
Get them so far too feck.
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Topic Originator: Murchadh  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 17:26

We’re going down based on that. McPake out!

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 17:28

We all said at HT we need the second goal as we cant trust ourselves not to lose a goal. Second half performance was a shambles.

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 17:30

Result buys him another few weeks IMO

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Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 17:31

Honestly, I expected nine points from our last three games. To get just one is disgraceful. And I can`t see where we will get our next points.

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Topic Originator: Murchadh  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 17:37

I don’t think we will finish bottom, however we won’t win the play-off.

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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 17:48

I really cant see where our next win is coming from 😂
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 17:53

In the last 39 years I`ve learnt never to expect anything from the Pars

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 18:34

Ashcroft in this week and maybe we’re pick up the occasional draw on the road but everything needs to go into the home game against ayr. Anything at Partick is a total unexpected bonus.

It’s starting to remind me of the season we went down, the games against those around us are now 6 pointers.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 19:07

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Berkey, Sat 17 Feb 18:34

Ashcroft in this week and maybe we’re pick up the occasional draw on the road but everything needs to go into the home game against ayr. Anything at Partick is a total unexpected bonus.

It’s starting to remind me of the season we went down, the games against those around us are now 6 pointers.


I think those were my thoughts. I do think the circumstances are different though. We need a good central defender. If we can get Ashcroft in that will be a big bonus. I think we are looking at 8th or 9th. If we end up in the playoffs hopefully we will have players back from injury. I think it`s been a bit unfair to expect the young lads who have just come in to assume the burden of avoiding relegation. They will get better over time and need that time. To an extent they have been thrown in at the deep end. An improvement over the last two weeks so need to keep going in that direction
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 19:15

Agree Indiapar, while things like the relegation playoffs will be a good experience for the youngsters, it’s unlikely under that pressure they will stand up and be counted and we can’t rely on the likes of Moffat or summers to have a good day when there’s far more bad games than good this season.

We need to bring in more than Ashcroft to make me feel like we’ll be fine in the playoffs if that’s what it’s to be, everyone seems to be thinking we won’t get any relapses or new injuries for the rest of the season and the likes of Todd and KRH will take l quite a few games before they are anywhere near match fit.



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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 22:19

Get mcpake to ****.
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