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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Mon 22 Jan 20:48
we had an issue with the other thread (have got round it now)
have decided to make a new thread as the size of the other one caused issues
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Topic Originator: Bouncer
Date: Mon 22 Jan 23:11
If rumours are true we will be in the market for a new left back after a 6 figure bid for Edwards from an English league one team.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 22 Jan 23:32
Quote:
Bouncer, Mon 22 Jan 23:11
If rumours are true we will be in the market for a new left back after a 6 figure bid for Edwards from an English league one team.
Haha. Yeah, right
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 23 Jan 08:20
Quote:
red-star-par, Mon 22 Jan 23:32
Quote:
Bouncer, Mon 22 Jan 23:11
If rumours are true we will be in the market for a new left back after a 6 figure bid for Edwards from an English league one team.
Haha. Yeah, right
It’s not out of the question, Stoke were sniffing about Edwards for a while previously.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Tue 23 Jan 11:54
Quote:
Bouncer, Mon 22 Jan 23:11
If rumours are true we will be in the market for a new left back after a 6 figure bid for Edwards from an English league one team.
Matty Shiels at Dumbarton leaving to join a full-time club. A left-sided defender.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 23 Jan 12:00
Shiels is signing for Cove.
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Tue 23 Jan 12:34
Max Boruc @ Hibs is possibly going to Arbroath on Loan! Seen him a couple of times at Hibs and he’s a really decent keeper! He’d certainly be one I’d love to come to EEP. Definitely a step up from Mehmet!
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Tue 23 Jan 12:35
Haha, my 2+2 made 5 there!
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Tue 23 Jan 16:02
Courier reports that the Pars and Raith Rovers are leading the chase for Zak Rudden from Dundee. Although it says there are plenty of clubs after him.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 23 Jan 17:16
Falkirk shift out Jordan Allan (who they paid money for bizarrely when he doesn`t fit McGlynn`s system) back to Clydenon loan and bring in ex-Raith midfielder Dylan Tait on loan from Hibs. If they don`t come up this season they never will. Here`s hoping Hamilton can pip them somehow!
Think there would be a meltdown here if Rudden signed for Raith, especially since they seem quite well off for centre forwards. He`s a bit different to what they have mind you, but I`d make us favourites to sign him if he comes to Fife.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 23 Jan 17:37
They`ve went with us and Rov ers as the headline grabers, but everyone bar Dundee Utd are after him.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 23 Jan 18:51
He may well be tempted back to Partick ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: dover par
Date: Tue 23 Jan 19:13
Quote:
red-star-par, Mon 22 Jan 23:32
Quote:
Bouncer, Mon 22 Jan 23:11
If rumours are true we will be in the market for a new left back after a 6 figure bid for Edwards from an English league one team.
Haha. Yeah, right
Watch this space
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Tue 23 Jan 20:32
Quote:
ParfectXI, Tue 23 Jan 12:34
Max Boruc @ Hibs is possibly going to Arbroath on Loan! Seen him a couple of times at Hibs and he’s a really decent keeper! He’d certainly be one I’d love to come to EEP. Definitely a step up from Mehmet!
He is in goals for Arbroath tonight.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 23 Jan 20:38
I like Edwards but would be surprised to see any bid of 6 figures come in, he hasn’t looked too good for our current level and I assume league 1 is a step up. Not sure he’s at his best as a wing back in current formation as his delivery tends to be poor.
Just hope if he does go he’s replaced with someone with a few games under their belt.
Ridden would be interesting, I think he would offer us something different, has workrate and knows where the net is so has the best bits of McCann and wighton.
At some point we’re surely going to make a better offer than others clubs for someone!
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Tue 23 Jan 20:51
Can`t see Rudden coming to us if Partick and Raith are genuinely interested.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 23 Jan 21:53
Didn`t he leave Partick under a bit of a cloud?
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Topic Originator: 13en
Date: Wed 24 Jan 09:22
Luke Jephcott, Cammy Ballantyne and James brown told by st Johnston to find new clubs, would certainly take Jephcott if he’s within our budget, still young and decent goal returns with Plymouth
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 24 Jan 11:00
Quote:
13en, Wed 24 Jan 09:22
Luke Jephcott, Cammy Ballantyne and James brown told by st Johnston to find new clubs, would certainly take Jephcott if he’s within our budget, still young and decent goal returns with Plymouth
Can’t say I know much about any of them. But having a Quick look, it seems like James Brown is a RB, that can cover LB and CB. If he’s fairly decent, sounds like he might have the versatility we need right now.
Ballantyne has had a lot of loans to Montrose, but doesn’t seem to have many goals/assists. Can’t say I remember him at all, but I’ll trust the manager/recruitment team to do their research before bringing anyone in.
Was really hoping we’d have another player or two in by now, but hopefully that’s sorted in the next week.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Wed 24 Jan 12:39
Jephcott seems to have general fitness issues or lack of fitness more like from the sounds of it, cant say know anything about Ballantyne really.
Brown and one not mentioned there in McClelland, NI u21 centre half who could be available on loan after injury might be options but does it makes sense with what we already have when they are fit which has to be considered.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 24 Jan 12:42
Quote:
dover par, Tue 23 Jan 19:13
Quote:
red-star-par, Mon 22 Jan 23:32
Quote:
Bouncer, Mon 22 Jan 23:11
If rumours are true we will be in the market for a new left back after a 6 figure bid for Edwards from an English league one team.
Haha. Yeah, right
Watch this space
I`ll be watching nothing changing and Edwards being with us in February.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Wed 24 Jan 13:37
Brilliant cammy cheers
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Topic Originator: Bouncer
Date: Wed 24 Jan 14:05
I hope you are correct. My understanding is that there has been an offer made. Wether that turns into a transfer remains to be seen.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 24 Jan 14:23
Quote:
GJS93, Wed 24 Jan 12:39
does it makes sense with what we already have when they are fit which has to be considered.
We have 4 senior at the club whose primary position is CB and we play with a back 3. 2 of those CBs have missed around 70-80% of the season so far with injuries and another has suffered 2 concussions. We shouldn’t be building a squad assuming everyone will be fit all the time, we need defensive cover and I honestly thought that was obvious to everyone.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 24 Jan 14:37
If the club is in as fire straights as some suggestions on here surely we would take it? Maybe shows how much dung is laid here by some.
If it`s over or near 100k I think we take it all day. I personally don`t think he will thrive south of the border. His crossing is very unpredictable and mostly doesn`t cause defenses much of an issue and I think he will be found out on the defensive side of the game as well.
That being said he is an important player for us at this point in time hence why we haven`t taken the "offer" until we have a suitable replacement lined up.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Wed 24 Jan 18:32
Quote:
par-91, Wed 24 Jan 14:23
We shouldn’t be building a squad assuming everyone will be fit all the time,
I don`t think they are assuming that.
4 CBs, but then you`ve got midfielders + full backs who can all fill if required. Sensible approach to building a squad, having utility players that can cover a few positions. We`ve just been incredibly unlucky with injuries this season.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 24 Jan 22:08
Thats fine fcda but I don’t think we’ve a balanced enough squad to drop the likes of Hamilton into defence leaving no one in midfield who can win the ball back.
Especially with so many young players with so little first team experience then being relied on.
Feels like we just need that little bit more experience, hopefully if we can get another 1 in it’s an experienced pro.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Wed 24 Jan 22:39
Mostly agree, but maybe Otoo can play a similar role in midfield.
No doubt we need players in because of the injuries.
Post Edited (Wed 24 Jan 22:40)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 25 Jan 12:48
The Courier are reporting that Cammy Kerr has joined ICT on loan for the rest of the season.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 25 Jan 16:46
Looks like Rudden is bound for Raith if the Courier is to be believed
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Thu 25 Jan 17:06
Looks like all the players are rudden a mile from the pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 25 Jan 17:10
The article in the Courier about Rudden says there is speculation about Jamie Gullan`s future at Raith. I think he`s got 6 months left on his contract. Could he be a target?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 25 Jan 17:11
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 25 Jan 17:10
The article in the Courier about Rudden says there is speculation about Jamie Gullan`s future at Raith. I think he`s got 6 months left on his contract. Could he be a target?
He`s apparently after a move to Ireland. It does sound like they`ll only move for Rudden if Gullan moves on.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Thu 25 Jan 17:13
Very disappointing and concerning if we’re losing out on Rudden to Raith. We badly need a striker. Hopefully we have someone else lined up but it’s surprising we haven’t added anyone else in the last two weeks.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Thu 25 Jan 17:20
I’m not expecting any more signings this month. Would be delighted to be proved wrong though.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 25 Jan 17:21
only some have to be this month though...
Post Edited (Thu 25 Jan 17:22)
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Thu 25 Jan 17:24
We do need to work better at becoming a bigger draw than some other teams. I get the draw of Raith at the moment, difficult with Dundee Utd in our league but we should be up there and above the others.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Thu 25 Jan 17:37
Quote:
GJS93, Thu 25 Jan 17:21
only some have to be this month though...
Post Edited (Thu 25 Jan 17:22)
Agreed, but the current situation means we need some in the door asap imo
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 25 Jan 18:08
Quote:
Berry, Thu 25 Jan 17:24
We do need to work better at becoming a bigger draw than some other teams. I get the draw of Raith at the moment, difficult with Dundee Utd in our league but we should be up there and above the others.
It`ll come down to terms imo. Ultimately, money is usually the biggest influence. If we offer the same money then it comes down to club profile. I`d say we have the biggest profile in the league after Dundee Utd. Then there`s reputation. I`d not be sure if DU as they`re hemorrhaging money and they seem to have sold the family silver. I`m impressed with Raith but even with their success they still attract small crowds. How long can the success be sustained with small crowds? The Pars are a bit meh. Financially stable but no chance of promotion this season really.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Thu 25 Jan 18:10
Quote:
RossF, Thu 25 Jan 17:13
Very disappointing and concerning if we’re losing out on Rudden to Raith. We badly need a striker. Hopefully we have someone else lined up but it’s surprising we haven’t added anyone else in the last two weeks.
It is really worrying. No wonder there’s a shareholder meeting. We must be absolutely skint. This could be the difference between us staying up or not.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Thu 25 Jan 18:11
Club is skint and we have to accept it. Doubt we bring anyone else in and Mcpake will have to get on with it. Questions have to be asked about how we are unable to compete with the Rovers in the transfer market.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Thu 25 Jan 18:14
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Thu 25 Jan 18:11
Club is skint and we have to accept it. Doubt we bring anyone else in and Mcpake will have to get on with it. Questions have to be asked about how we are unable to compete with the Rovers in the transfer market.
It`s a pretty simple question is it not? Rovers running a bigger playing budget due to external investment.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 25 Jan 18:21
There really can be no explanation other than we are absolutely skint.
Not one
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 25 Jan 18:26
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Thu 25 Jan 18:11
Club is skint and we have to accept it. Doubt we bring anyone else in and Mcpake will have to get on with it. Questions have to be asked about how we are unable to compete with the Rovers in the transfer market.
Two different philosophies,
Coupled with the fact they didn`t have to spend a season in league 1.
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Topic Originator: Paralytic77
Date: Thu 25 Jan 18:43
The boy that pumped money into Kelty is now financing the Rovers , plenty cash
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Thu 25 Jan 18:48
Brutal window so far
Effe
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 25 Jan 18:48
Let me think now. Raith looking decent for promotion and Pars walking wounded might not make the playoffs.
Hmmmm. Difficult choice that one.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 25 Jan 18:55
If you are after a player on loan surely you just have to pay the club his wages? If we were in competition with the Rovers for Rudden presumably we were both prepared to pay his wages so it must have been down to the player`s preference or maybe Dundee`s? Are clubs allowed to pay financial incentives to potential loanees?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 25 Jan 19:00
Hold the phone....
So there might be more than one explanation?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Thu 25 Jan 19:04
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 25 Jan 18:55
If you are after a player on loan surely you just have to pay the club his wages? If we were in competition with the Rovers for Rudden presumably we were both prepared to pay his wages so it must have been down to the player`s preference or maybe Dundee`s? Are clubs allowed to pay financial incentives to potential loanees?
Loan fees are pretty common in the very top end of the market. Not sure what the rules are.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 25 Jan 19:09
Where a club has said a player is no longer in their plans you would not think a loan fee would be appropriate surely?
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Thu 25 Jan 19:14
Ian Murray has said that their playing budget is the same as last season as they decided to spend a decent amount of money upgrading the stadium rather than increasing the playing budget.
“ Let me think now. Raith looking decent for promotion and Pars walking wounded might not make the playoffs.
Hmmmm. Difficult choice that one.”
Not like you to talk us down Parrot!
I wouldn’t be surprised if we go for Jamie Gullan if he returns to Hibs for Rudden
Post Edited (Thu 25 Jan 19:15)
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Topic Originator: parsloyal98
Date: Thu 25 Jan 19:16
It is far from an exaggeration to suggest this has been one of the most shocking windows of recent times for us.
Club were open and stated they wanted players with “wow factor” - don’t all clubs , but regardless, open communication is something the club has historically been bad for. They set out their stall and made it clear they want high quality signings.
What’s happened in the time since however has been shambolic to say the least, especially considering the extreme injury crisis we are enduring and have endured for much of the season.
When Malachi Fagan-Walcott arrived on loan, it was suggested another may have been immediately around the corner - that never transpired.
We’ve then proceeded to embarrass ourselves by leaking to our good friends at The Courier that we’ve failed to sign Eamonn Brophy on loan not once, but TWICE! Was it a case of shooting too high perhaps? Or was it because we’d waited too long and County had probably got far on in negotiations to loan out Alex Samuel to highland rivals ICT?
Since then, we’ve been linked with Zak Rudden on a loan deal from McPake’s favourite signing hotspot, Dundee Football Club.
Sure, he’s got the option of joining a potential league winning side in Rovers or a mid-table, Pars team but where is the ambition to get these guys? If we want wow factors we’ve to offer wow wages, wow transfer/loan fees etc.
We’ve also bigged him up in the media saying how highly we rate him and it now appears that he’s set to sign for Rovers.
Is another end of window statement coming like last time with the “we tried, couldn’t get anyone else, soz” message regurgitated?
The buzz from last season has been absolutely zapped from the club this term and now attending seems like more of a chore than a pleasure but blind faith keeps me turning up regardless.
We love Dunfermline We do!
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Thu 25 Jan 19:35
Can`t disagree parsloyal.
McPake want`s better than we have, which means higher wages presumably. Club won`t do that coz `we`re skint` according to most people on here, and by the looks if it, we do seem to be.
People now going on about different reasons why we can`t or won`t sign boys, fair enough, but in the Crawford days we were signing plenty and good players at that.
If its solely down to the club kyboshing player after player because of budget then how long is McPake going to hak it ?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 25 Jan 19:35
You criticise the club for poor communication then also criticise them for making public that they made two attempts to sign Brophy!
Re the player they hoped to sign along with MFW Dave Mackay says on COWS that he is still with his club in England and suggests we are still interested and any deal will have to be done by 31 Jan as it`s cross-border.
Why can`t fans understand that during the transfer window the selling/lending club is in control and a club like ours isn`t in a position to force their hand or accelerate a deal?
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 25 Jan 19:37
"I wouldn’t be surprised if we go for Jamie Gullan if he returns to Hibs for Rudden"
Gullan left Hibs permanently years ago.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 25 Jan 19:42
That`s right. He`s under contract with Raith until the end of the season I think.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Thu 25 Jan 19:48
I stand corrected! Sounds like he’s leaving Raith anyway due to lack of game time.
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Topic Originator: parsloyal98
Date: Thu 25 Jan 19:59
Wee Eck, my criticism of comms was related to typically knowing nothing and open communication is great but why should we be publicising that we’re missing out on players? Doesn’t send the right message to prospective signings when they see they’re not first choice etc
We love Dunfermline We do!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 25 Jan 20:21
Clubs aren`t alone in giving info to the media. Players or their agents will be passing on stuff for their own benefit. The club can`t win with some fans. If there are no rumours in the media it`s assumed the club are sitting on their hands. Now you`re accusing them of leaking info which might influence a potential target`s view of the club!
It`s frustrating but everyone just has to have patience.
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Topic Originator: parsloyal98
Date: Thu 25 Jan 20:31
Whether it was the club or not I suppose doesn’t matter in grand scheme of things but Rudden will know he was 2nd choice after our failed Brophy attempts. If we sign a striker they’ll know we’ve went for them as a 3rd choice. If that were me, I’d be a bit hacked off knowing they never had the confidence in me to make me their first choice
We love Dunfermline We do!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 25 Jan 20:34
Nonsense
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Thu 25 Jan 20:38
Quote:
parsloyal98, Thu 25 Jan 20:31
Whether it was the club or not I suppose doesn’t matter in grand scheme of things but Rudden will know he was 2nd choice after our failed Brophy attempts. If we sign a striker they’ll know we’ve went for them as a 3rd choice. If that were me, I’d be a bit hacked off knowing they never had the confidence in me to make me their first choice
With respect, you`re writing that story in your head to fit your own pessimism. Every player in every league knows they`re replaceable.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 25 Jan 21:01
Rudden wasn`t even available when we showed interest in Brophy!
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Thu 25 Jan 21:01
Would be different if it was a lack of numbers versus quality. It`s not fringe or squad players missing it`s the spine of our team.
We cannot afford to sign direct replacements on long term deals as the guys (if/when) they are fit would leave us with too big a squad and wage bill; would be financial suicide.
Ideally we`s be getting in experienced player(s) on a short term deal, maybe coming back from a bad injury or someone who`s contract due to run out in summer and not part of their managers plans beyond the end of the season.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 25 Jan 21:09
Quote:
parsloyal98, Thu 25 Jan 20:31
Whether it was the club or not I suppose doesn’t matter in grand scheme of things but Rudden will know he was 2nd choice after our failed Brophy attempts. If we sign a striker they’ll know we’ve went for them as a 3rd choice. If that were me, I’d be a bit hacked off knowing they never had the confidence in me to make me their first choice
How do you work that out ! Has the club stated we were after Brophy! Or simply forum speculation .Maybe I`ve missed that we officially approached Brophy .
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Thu 25 Jan 21:16
Quote:
Rusty Shackleford, Thu 25 Jan 18:14
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Thu 25 Jan 18:11
Club is skint and we have to accept it. Doubt we bring anyone else in and Mcpake will have to get on with it. Questions have to be asked about how we are unable to compete with the Rovers in the transfer market.
It`s a pretty simple question is it not? Rovers running a bigger playing budget due to external investment.
But we shall have a shiny new academy to produce young stars of the future in about 7 years time. Sorry but football fans in general are not that patient and want instant constant progression starting yesterday
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Thu 25 Jan 21:23
How do we not have much of a wage budget? Are we paying the youngsters we got from the old firm a big chunk of the budget?
If we’re absolutely skint it’s time to worry, so far otoo looks like the only player we might be able to sell on. Theres far more we’ll be stuck with next season than we’ll be lucky to keep.
Post Edited (Thu 25 Jan 21:31)
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 25 Jan 21:37
Quote:
Berkey, Thu 25 Jan 21:23
How do we not have much of a wage budget? Are we paying the youngsters we got from the old firm a big chunk of the budget?
If we’re absolutely skint it’s time to worry, so far otoo looks like the only player we might be able to sell on. Theres far more we’ll be stuck with next season than we’ll be lucky to keep.
Otoo and KRH will be on decent money, at least what they were on at the old firm.
It`s important to add that 1k a week is 52k a year, we ain`t gonna be paying a January signing much more than that without making space in the budget
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 25 Jan 22:18
This thread is absolutely .net at its finest 😂 wild speculations all over the shop with absolutely 0 evidence to back it up…
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Topic Originator: nazpar
Date: Fri 26 Jan 08:24
This is what James Mcpake said . provided insight into the ongoing transfer window, indicating that more players are expected, though not likely for the upcoming match. “We still are working away and expecting more to come in. It’s not so much a domino effect now because you can see a lot of them moving, a lot of teams are moving people on. It should accelerate a bit now because the Premier League needs to finish on Wednesday.”
nazpar
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Fri 26 Jan 09:52
Re: Transfer Window part 2
Posted from the Android app Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 25 Jan 21:09
Quote:
parsloyal98, Thu 25 Jan 20:31
Whether it was the club or not I suppose doesn’t matter in grand scheme of things but Rudden will know he was 2nd choice after our failed Brophy attempts. If we sign a striker they’ll know we’ve went for them as a 3rd choice. If that were me, I’d be a bit hacked off knowing they never had the confidence in me to make me their first choice
How do you work that out ! Has the club stated we were after Brophy! Or simply forum speculation .Maybe I`ve missed that we officially approached Brophy
Aye you missed it. It was reported by National and regional newspapers. We approached them twice and got knocked back.
"We`ve got no money" "We`re skint" - Aye? Prove it. You can`t, because you have absolutely zero evidence to back it up.
Post Edited (Fri 26 Jan 09:56)
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Topic Originator: Bouncer
Date: Fri 26 Jan 11:07
The Wotherspoon signing didn`t go through because the 2 parties were £100 a week apart.
I assume from that we have a wage cap in place which obviously doesn`t apply to the 6 figure sum the CEO collects.
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Topic Originator: MikeyDee
Date: Fri 26 Jan 11:23
Rovers have signed Ashcroft and Rudden, it`ll be announced this afternoon. The DoF works in my office
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Topic Originator: rsmith
Date: Fri 26 Jan 12:04
Quote:
MikeyDee, Fri 26 Jan 11:23
Rovers have signed Ashcroft and Rudden, it`ll be announced this afternoon. The DoF works in my office
Quite the ex pars side they are building if true. Would take them to 7 ex pars players I think. Be changing their kits to stripes next.
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Fri 26 Jan 12:12
Changed days when the Rovers are a better proposition than the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Fri 26 Jan 12:14
Two very good signings
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Fri 26 Jan 12:21
Quote:
Swifty, Fri 26 Jan 12:12
Changed days when the Rovers are a better proposition than the Pars!
Money talks obviously but I also thought for a player their facilities looked top notch in the SPFL video where Sam Wardrop was shown around by Dylan Easton. No idea how they compare to ours of course.
Click here
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 26 Jan 12:46
Anybody coming out with the wee team patter regarding the Rovers now is peak cringe. They could honestly push United for the league title until the very end. We`re currently relegation contenders with our injury list
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 26 Jan 13:05
Let`s wait until the end of the season before passing judgement. It could be that the Rovers are throwing everything at winning the Championship because they know the play-offs are a bit of a lottery for the runners-up. If the gamble doesn`t come off they could have another expensive season in the Championship.
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Fri 26 Jan 13:09
Rovers stuff aside I’m still gutted at our window
One loan in, one loaner sent back in a struggling injury riddled squad. Best hope we get some players back and they stay fit then.
Effe
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 26 Jan 13:13
There`s still 5 days to go and the possibility of loans in February.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Fri 26 Jan 13:23
Quote:
Toddyrov, Fri 26 Jan 13:09
Rovers stuff aside I’m still gutted at our window
One loan in, one loaner sent back in a struggling injury riddled squad. Best hope we get some players back and they stay fit then.
January are always bad windows, our signings will be cheap or loans.
No point In throwing money at a mid table finish which we will achieve anyway
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 26 Jan 13:27
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 26 Jan 13:05
Let`s wait until the end of the season before passing judgement. It could be that the Rovers are throwing everything at winning the Championship because they know the play-offs are a bit of a lottery for the runners-up. If the gamble doesn`t come off they could have another expensive season in the Championship.
It depends on your outlook. I suspect Dundee Utd will finish top. Raith likely second and then could go up through the play-offs. However, it`s risky as one bad game and they`re stuck in the Championship. However, I`d argue the investment isn`t lost as the hope would be to have an established squad to fight for promotion the next season. The risk there though is that teams in the Premier or other Championship teams start picking up your players over the summer. There`s risk everywhere, you just need to accept how much risk you`re willing to take. The Pars board seem risk averse, but for good reason given our finances and lack of a real safety net.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Fri 26 Jan 13:28
Can`t see us matching what Otoo and Ritchie-Hosler were on at their precious clubs, surely? If we have but won`t pay an extra hundred quid a week or whatever for experienced players at this level that is madness.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Fri 26 Jan 13:41
Can’t believe we weren’t interested in Rudden. The Rovers are streets ahead of us squad wise.
Thought Mcpake looked totally hacked off during his pre match interview.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 26 Jan 13:50
I thought we WERE interested in Rudden? Some of the stuff on here is absolutely crazy.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 26 Jan 14:18
I think livi will come down and end up a championship outfit for years to come. Raith won`t be too worried about them coming down if they don`t go up. I think it will be close between united and Raith right down to the wire.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Fri 26 Jan 14:29
Quote:
weemike, Fri 26 Jan 13:23
Quote:
Toddyrov, Fri 26 Jan 13:09
Rovers stuff aside I’m still gutted at our window
One loan in, one loaner sent back in a struggling injury riddled squad. Best hope we get some players back and they stay fit then.
January are always bad windows, our signings will be cheap or loans.
No point In throwing money at a mid table finish which we will achieve anyway
Will we? Looking at our squad and our form we are in for a hard end to the season. I certainly don’t fancy the players we have to get us out a relegation scrap. Lack of experience and leadership.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Fri 26 Jan 14:31
Quote:
The Boss, Fri 26 Jan 14:29
Quote:
weemike, Fri 26 Jan 13:23
Quote:
Toddyrov, Fri 26 Jan 13:09
Rovers stuff aside I’m still gutted at our window
One loan in, one loaner sent back in a struggling injury riddled squad. Best hope we get some players back and they stay fit then.
January are always bad windows, our signings will be cheap or loans.
No point In throwing money at a mid table finish which we will achieve anyway
Will we? Looking at our squad and our form we are in for a hard end to the season. I certainly don’t fancy the players we have to get us out a relegation scrap. Lack of experience and leadership.
We will finish closer to 4th than 9th.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 26 Jan 14:49
If the players have the same mindset as some of our fans then we are doomed.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Fri 26 Jan 15:07
"I thought we WERE interested in Rudden?"
if we were interested, he would be coming here....thats how it works in some peoples minds.
this mystery player must be some player to be waiting over 2 weeks for with still no guarantee of signing, presumably other options have gone elsewhere in the meantime? or do we not have any other options?
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 26 Jan 15:36
Quote:
Swifty, Fri 26 Jan 12:12
Changed days when the Rovers are a better proposition than the Pars!
You get that they have beaten us more than we have beaten them.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 26 Jan 15:43
I don`t think our situation is unique. Every day you hear managers say they have a few irons in the fire and will have to see what transpires. Even Brendan Rodgers could give no assurances about signings in the window.
Signing players in the mid-season window when most players are under contract is extremely problematical.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Fri 26 Jan 16:24
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 26 Jan 14:49
If the players have the same mindset as some of our fans then we are doomed.
It’s not the mindset that’s the problem. It’s lack of some quality and experience. Some of these players were relegated before and from memory they certainly didn’t roll their sleeves up when the going got tough.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
Post Edited (Fri 26 Jan 16:29)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Fri 26 Jan 16:37
Agree Boss, I’d say if it wasn’t for Hamilton we couldn’t easily be bottom, it’s that bad. Total over reliance on the only physical player we have in a physical league. (I don’t include McCann as he does very little with the ball when he does win it back)
Shaping up to be 2 poor windows in a row and some poor poor decisions with existing players now contracted into next season.
We can just hope we have enough to steer clear of trouble this season or we can help by bringing a couple of experienced heads in until the end of the season.
If there’s no money now, there will be no money next season as all the higher earners are here to stay.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 26 Jan 17:21
Berkey, do you read anybody else`s posts? You`re like a stuck record. McPake has said they are still trying to get a couple of players in to help the squad. You must be relieved he seems to have missed out on a couple of Dundee players because you think it`s a bad idea to recruit players the manager`s familiar with!
`The Boss` is no better. He says it`s not a mindset problem and then worries about players not `rolling up their sleeves`. And what`s two seasons ago got to do with it? Haven`t you noticed we`ve got a different management team now and plenty different players in the squad.?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 26 Jan 17:38
Rudden confirmed at Starks
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 26 Jan 17:43
No mention of Ashcroft though. I see Fisher has been cleared to play without a mask tomorrow which he`s pleased about.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 26 Jan 17:47
Surprised Raith want/need Rudden.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Fri 26 Jan 18:02
Quote:
Andrew283, Fri 26 Jan 12:46
Anybody coming out with the wee team patter regarding the Rovers now is peak cringe.
One swallow and all that.
Still a wee team.
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Topic Originator: adj27
Date: Fri 26 Jan 18:05
How good is it gonna be when we beat them in the play offs?
They’ll always be the wee team
Andy
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 26 Jan 18:09
Connor Smith has joined St Johnstone from Hearts on a permanent deal to May 2025.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Fri 26 Jan 18:14
Quote:
jake89, Fri 26 Jan 17:47
Surprised Raith want/need Rudden.
Gullan has left.
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Fri 26 Jan 18:15
Gullan would not be a good signing. From what I’ve seen anyway.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Fri 26 Jan 18:17
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 26 Jan 17:21
Berkey, do you read anybody else`s posts? You`re like a stuck record. McPake has said they are still trying to get a couple of players in to help the squad. You must be relieved he seems to have missed out on a couple of Dundee players because you think it`s a bad idea to recruit players the manager`s familiar with!
`The Boss` is no better. He says it`s not a mindset problem and then worries about players not `rolling up their sleeves`. And what`s two seasons ago got to do with it? Haven`t you noticed we`ve got a different management team now and plenty different players in the squad.?
New management team and some performances have been on par with Grant and Hughes. How much is the managers fault, who knows?
Wee eck, You might want to happy clap until the end but there are plenty of supporters who are really concerned at what is happening at the club. All over social media people are asking why we can’t sign players. It’s not even like we’re trying to sign “wow” players like what McPake was quoted as saying the other week. These guys are average players and we can’t get them in the door. Something isn’t quite right.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Fri 26 Jan 18:24
Is it really just this month that’s been poor transfer wise? I mean yes we got KRH and Otto and a couple others pre season but I remember McPake and Cook talking about getting a few others in, which didn’t happen and some players we were linked to went to other championship teams which we shouldn’t be losing to imo since we have better facilities etc.
So is there something more to it? Are we losing players to other clubs because of something within the club? Are we playing hardball when we should be a bit more accommodating?
I don’t know but outside of Dundee Utd, I see us having the best ground/facilities/fanbase etc which should be a big draw to a player, but for some reason it’s not happening.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 26 Jan 18:42
We tried to sign Wotherspoon and Brophy, both international players. How high should we be aiming? You don`t know who we`re trying to sign but you seem to be sure they aren`t `wow` players.
Boss, the `happy clapper` insult gets a bit tiresome. Maybe I`m just a bit more realistic than you. You don`t do irony, do you - accusing the players of not being up for the fight when you seem to have thrown in the towel yourself?
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Fri 26 Jan 18:43
Like a lot of Pars fans, I’m concerned about our lack of success in the current transfer window. This is particularly difficult to stomach, given our horrendous injury list, which has been an unlucky feature most of the season. I’ve no doubt the Club are trying to sign/get players in on loan, but with our injuries we should have been more proactive. With a run of significant home games on the horizon we will hopefully get a few players in next week to bolster/improve our squad.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 26 Jan 18:44
It has to be concerning we were told that the german owners group weren`t putting money in for the squad which is fair enough. They kept on banging on about this rosyth project one where they needed other funders to get a shovel in the ground. While no money has been spent on the pitch. So is rosyth costing considerably more than they expected if so why? Who are these other funders? What is their plan to get the money back ?
EEP is still below where it should be on match days with no signs or plans of improving. I just wonder what the plan is to keep us up. The board has already said how much being in league 1 costs a club like us.
I think the fans who are voicing concerns have a legitimate reason considering we don`t seem to be an attractive destination.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: nazpar
Date: Fri 26 Jan 18:46
Quote:
AlterPar, Fri 26 Jan 18:15
Gullan would not be a good signing. From what I’ve seen anyway.
Gullan has signed for Dundalk
nazpar
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Fri 26 Jan 18:48
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Fri 26 Jan 18:44
It has to be concerning we were told that the german owners group weren`t putting money in for the squad which is fair enough. They kept on banging on about this rosyth project one where they needed other funders to get a shovel in the ground. While no money has been spent on the pitch. So is rosyth costing considerably more than they expected if so why? Who are these other funders? What is their plan to get the money back ?
EEP is still below where it should be on match days with no signs or plans of improving. I just wonder what the plan is to keep us up. The board has already said how much being in league 1 costs a club like us.
I think the fans who are voicing concerns have a legitimate reason considering we don`t seem to be an attractive destination.
What would you suggest to improve? And where does THAT money come from?
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 26 Jan 19:04
Quote:
EastEndTales, Fri 26 Jan 18:48
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Fri 26 Jan 18:44
It has to be concerning we were told that the german owners group weren`t putting money in for the squad which is fair enough. They kept on banging on about this rosyth project one where they needed other funders to get a shovel in the ground. While no money has been spent on the pitch. So is rosyth costing considerably more than they expected if so why? Who are these other funders? What is their plan to get the money back ?
EEP is still below where it should be on match days with no signs or plans of improving. I just wonder what the plan is to keep us up. The board has already said how much being in league 1 costs a club like us.
I think the fans who are voicing concerns have a legitimate reason considering we don`t seem to be an attractive destination.
What would you suggest to improve? And where does THAT money come from?
There are loads of things that has been suggested and fortunately for me where THAT money comes from and what it goes to is someone else`s job at the club who is paid to make these decisions.
But I will humour you with a few suggestions. An undersoio heating system that works since we always have a system failure when we use it. More than one or two turnstiles open when it`s back onto the main road pavement from the Norrie is just a few that spring to mind.
But if we aren`t improving things on the park and not maintaining the things around it what are we actually doing?
Personally I don`t know our financial situation BUT David Cook did squash rumours of financial problems at the recent supporters meetings so what are we doing behind the scenes if we aren`t improving the squad or EEP.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Fri 26 Jan 19:07
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 26 Jan 18:42
We tried to sign Wotherspoon and Brophy, both international players. How high should we be aiming? You don`t know who we`re trying to sign but you seem to be sure they aren`t `wow` players.
Boss, the `happy clapper` insult gets a bit tiresome. Maybe I`m just a bit more realistic than you. You don`t do irony, do you - accusing the players of not being up for the fight when you seem to have thrown in the towel yourself?
It also gets tiresome when we get classed as pessimistic etc when we have genuine concerns.
Irony? I haven’t thrown in the towel. I hope they prove me wrong but I’ve seen enough this season to know we need a bit of experience in there. I think most folk can see that.
I am being realistic. We look to be heading for League 1 and I believe more fans should be more concerned.
I imagine Arbroath will finish bottom but if we finish second bottom, we all know what our record is like in playoffs. Things can become very unpleasant at East End in the next few weeks if we don’t start grinding out results.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 26 Jan 19:08
How anyone can accuse our squad of lacking desire/fight/hunger is utterly beyond me.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Fri 26 Jan 19:19
Quote:
da_no_1, Fri 26 Jan 19:08
How anyone can accuse our squad of lacking desire/fight/hunger is utterly beyond me.
No but we certainly lack quality and experience.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 26 Jan 19:21
Inverness Caledonian Thistle have signed defender Remi Savage from Newcastle United on a permanent deal.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 26 Jan 19:25
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Fri 26 Jan 19:21
Inverness Caledonian Thistle have signed defender Remi Savage from Newcastle United on a permanent deal.
Not bad for a team allegedly broke at the start of the season, this is their 3rd signing of the window .
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Fri 26 Jan 19:51
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Fri 26 Jan 19:25
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Fri 26 Jan 19:21
Inverness Caledonian Thistle have signed defender Remi Savage from Newcastle United on a permanent deal.
Not bad for a team allegedly broke at the start of the season, this is their 3rd signing of the window .
Aye, but do they have their own training academy? 😉
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Fri 26 Jan 20:08
Jack Sanders joins Ayr on loan from Killie until the end of the season.
Looks like every other club is signing players.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Fri 26 Jan 20:31
No doubt Raith are gambling on promotion this season and hence are willing to take the financial risk. The question is, will they go up and will they be able to stay up. Our situation this season is different, newly promoted, and as such, we need a season to consolidate and push on from there. The development site is obviously behind programme due to Covid and other factors so it`s taken longer than expected to pull things together. I think next season when we get over the injury situation and the younger guys have a season under their belt in the championship things will be better. Trying times but that`s life
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Fri 26 Jan 20:40
Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Fri 26 Jan 20:08
Jack Sanders joins Ayr on loan from Killie until the end of the season.
Looks like every other club is signing players.
Ah so that will be their 1st and only signing of the window then...the same as us.
Post Edited (Fri 26 Jan 20:41)
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Fri 26 Jan 20:50
Quote:
Athletico, Fri 26 Jan 20:40
Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Fri 26 Jan 20:08
Jack Sanders joins Ayr on loan from Killie until the end of the season.
Looks like every other club is signing players.
Ah so that will be their 1st and only signing of the window then...the same as us.
To be fair the manager has only been there 2 days.The chairman has promised to splash the cash they get from going to Ibrox in the cup.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Fri 26 Jan 21:09
And yet again after another week when other teams are signing the club say nothing..A few days to go but normally it’s desperation then loans after that.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Fri 26 Jan 21:19
Should we not bolster the squad/get key players back from injury, it’s going to be a desperate/roller coaster ride until the end of the season.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Fri 26 Jan 21:27
Maybe we are waiting on Dundee getting rid of players/going on loan🤷
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Fri 26 Jan 21:58
Rovers are throwing cash around this season but probably not much in this instance.
Gullan leaves for an `undisclosed fee` plus his wage is freed up. They immediately loan in Rudden.
Probably not costing them much extra, if anything at all. Good business again from them sadly.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 27 Jan 07:35
Can’t we try and loan out the likes of wighton or o’hallaron to create space?
And there lies the problem.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 27 Jan 09:38
Quote:
Indiapar, Fri 26 Jan 20:31
No doubt Raith are gambling on promotion this season and hence are willing to take the financial risk. The question is, will they go up and will they be able to stay up. Our situation this season is different, newly promoted, and as such, we need a season to consolidate and push on from there. The development site is obviously behind programme due to Covid and other factors so it`s taken longer than expected to pull things together. I think next season when we get over the injury situation and the younger guys have a season under their belt in the championship things will be better. Trying times but that`s life
Considering John Potter Director of Football, Andy Barrowman CEO , both went through the lead up to Administration at East End , would make me think they will be watching the financial situation at the Rovers .
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 27 Jan 10:55
There are two financial risks as I see it.
1. The financial gamble on being promoted this year
2. The financial cost of going up and any cost implication around players` salaries, ground improvements, and running costs.
They may well be doing business in the transfer market, but this can be counterintuitive also. Do they have any players coming up through a youth system? Granted revenue will improve but I would be interested to know if that is likely to balance the books.
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Topic Originator: rsmith
Date: Sat 27 Jan 11:21
If rovers do get promoted do they have to remove their plastic pitch immediately or is there a grace period for promoted clubs? Would be a fairly costly renovation I would imagine
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 27 Jan 11:47
I doubt it`s that expensive, just a pain in the backside. The bigger cost would be fitting it so to have to tear it up would be a sore one.
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 27 Jan 12:54
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rsmith, Sat 27 Jan 11:21
If rovers do get promoted do they have to remove their plastic pitch immediately or is there a grace period for promoted clubs? Would be a fairly costly renovation I would imagine
- Don’t think they have actually voted to ban yet so likely there would be grace period anyway - killie said they would get rid of by 25/ 26 season and Livingston shrugged their shoulders and as usual said if they got paid to do it -( if they are still in premier league )
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 27 Jan 13:52
I think you need to waken up to the fact that our owners are not going to throw money at a short term solution.
They just need to finish above 8th this year and I think they are confident in doing that without risking the long term plan by splashing cash.
I know it looks scarey to some but I agree with them. Mid table this year and hopefully better luck next year
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 27 Jan 19:34
Quote:
jake89, Sat 27 Jan 11:47
I doubt it`s that expensive, just a pain in the backside. The bigger cost would be fitting it so to have to tear it up would be a sore one.
Surely the cost of putting a grass park back down be higher? Under an astro pitch is a layer of concrete and tarmac, which Im sure you wouldnt want to lay natural grass turf on top of, so would need to remove that as well.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 27 Jan 22:46
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 27 Jan 19:34
Quote:
jake89, Sat 27 Jan 11:47
I doubt it`s that expensive, just a pain in the backside. The bigger cost would be fitting it so to have to tear it up would be a sore one.
Surely the cost of putting a grass park back down be higher? Under an astro pitch is a layer of concrete and tarmac, which Im sure you wouldnt want to lay natural grass turf on top of, so would need to remove that as well.
I`m pretty sure our plastic pitch was £500k and Yorkston claimed it cost £200k to go back to grass. That was almost 20 years ago so I imagine that both numbers may be a lot higher now!
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 30 Jan 18:47
Josh McPake training with the club according to the Courier
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 30 Jan 20:33
Josh mcpake will be a player our manager knows from his Dundee days having had him on loan. Appears his star has fallen somewhat having not had a club since the summer.
A winger tho, if he’s got any pace and can deliver a decent cross I’d take him, although can’t quite see how he fits in with the 352 formation we play.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 30 Jan 20:41
So we have signed a defender and on loan striker where both will be decent. We have plenty midfielders so it’s time to see what team is put out against Morton on Saturday. A 4-1 win!
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Hay Fever
Date: Tue 30 Jan 23:52
Jeezo, if it’s no just Ex Dundee and Blackpool players he goes for, he’s now picking from his own Family😉
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Wed 31 Jan 12:35
Josh Mckpake training after not getting deals at Hamilton and Morton
No thanks
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Wed 31 Jan 13:31
Quote:
Football_Par, Wed 31 Jan 12:35
Josh Mckpake training after not getting deals at Hamilton and Morton
No thanks
And you know all the details about those engagements, for comparison?
You could write something similar about David Wotherspoon: didn`t get a deal done after training with Dunfermline.
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Topic Originator: Gem 1977
Date: Wed 31 Jan 13:32
Quote:
Football_Par, Wed 31 Jan 12:35
Josh Mckpake training after not getting deals at Hamilton and Morton
No thanks
Have you ever considered the personal terms could`ve been the stumbling block??
Here's to the first of the day, fellas! To old D.H. Lawrence.
Neh! Neh! Neh! Fuh! Fuh! Fuh! Indians
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 31 Jan 14:28
Maybe he didn`t like the West Coast , Fife far prettier!🤔😁😎
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 31 Jan 15:21
There is no denying McPake is a talented player...however his attitude and behaviour at other clubs has been documented and is a bit of a red flag.
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Topic Originator: DA_NO1
Date: Wed 31 Jan 17:17
seem to remember a certain Joe Cardle had questions marks over his attitiude and behaviour at Airdrie before we signed him ....
"a picture paints a thousand words"
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Wed 31 Jan 19:11
Danny Wilson seemingly signed an 18 month deal for Queen’s Park. Phenomenal signing if true. He would have been a fantastic addition for us.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 1 Feb 12:55
David Carson has moved from ICT to Livi on an 18-month deal.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Thu 1 Feb 13:20
Quote:
RossF, Wed 31 Jan 19:11
Danny Wilson seemingly signed an 18 month deal for Queen’s Park. Phenomenal signing if true. He would have been a fantastic addition for us.
Confirmed at Queens Park.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Thu 1 Feb 13:31
Joe Bevan signs for Burnley from Albion Rovers. Incredible move for him. I’m gutted we didn’t go for him in the summer. He looks an exciting prospect.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 1 Feb 16:45
There`s an item on the East End Bounce forum saying that Tommy Smith of MK Dons turned down the chance of joining us on loan until the end of the season because he wanted a permanent deal. He`s 34 next month, plays CB or LB and has over 50 NZ caps although he was born in Macclesfield.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Thu 1 Feb 16:51
Dundee United were allegedly interested in him.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 1 Feb 18:52
the other post from the Hibs fan on pie and bovril on this,
"Albeit it`s come through a personal source, Smith and his wife have family connections to West Fife/Edinburgh and it`s been floated before as I believe he spoke to a few clubs in the summer but opted to move to MK Dons instead. Believe there still may be a move this window to another Championship club or Premiership club."
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Thu 1 Feb 20:04
Quote:
EastEndTales, Thu 1 Feb 19:19
If a chance to move to this massive club doesn`t give him a twitch in his underwear, he can gtf.
Well said that man 😂😂
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Topic Originator: dafc111
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:02
Signing incoming I believe.....
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:07
Ross Hart updating on the Dunfermline Press site
"10:55pm
I understand there could be some news coming from KDM Group East End Park.
Stick with us, Pars fans..."
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Topic Originator: parak obama
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:08
New double biscuit unveiled for match days
[IMG]https://share2.co.uk/f/1152_471_P300411_16.49_[02].jpg[/IMG]
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:10
That is rim patter
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Topic Originator: Parallel Lines
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:10
Greggs to replace Stephens?
I looked for my pet in all the books on animals and birds and then I found it in the Book of Revelations.Marty Feldman
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:14
"A #DeadlineDay signing 🐻
A new Sammy the Tammy double biscuit will be on sale this Saturday at KDM Group East End Park in the Norrie McCathie Stand 🏁"
I`ve got to say, unless they are following up this post with the announcement of a decent player, then I`m not impressed that the club thinks this is an appropriate last minute social media post
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:15
Some Pars fans not happy, at the club media team taking the urine ,at last minute signing ,to find out its a double biscuit.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:16
Xavier Benjamin, 20 year old centre half on loan from Cardiff
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:17
Quote:
red-star-par, Thu 1 Feb 23:14
"A #DeadlineDay signing 🐻
A new Sammy the Tammy double biscuit will be on sale this Saturday at KDM Group East End Park in the Norrie McCathie Stand 🏁"
I`ve got to say, unless they are following up this post with the announcement of a decent player, then I`m not impressed that the club thinks this is an appropriate last minute social media post
And thankfully all is forgiven. We have signed Xavier Benjamin
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:17
We like our Cardiff defenders and Blackpool attackers! Nice one. He played 45 mins for Cardiff this month.
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Topic Originator: Currie Par
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:18
Xavier Benjamin Cardiff City.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:33
Brilliant!
I love double biscuits
Welcome Xavier!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:37
Dunfermline Athletic are delighted to announce that 20 year old centre back, Xavier Benjamin has joined the club on loan from Cardiff City until end of the season, subject to international clearances.
Xavier started in the Fulham youth system and played 27 times in the U18 Premier League before at the age of 18 making the switch to the Cardiff City Academy in June 2022.
The defender made an impact on joining Darren Purse’s young U21 side, he quickly took on the captain’s armband and led by example. A commanding presence in the Bluebirds’ backline, Xavier was named Cardiff City FC Academy Player of the Season in April 2023.
Xavier who has dual nationality English/ Jamaican, has played for Cardiff this season in the EFL Cup and on 6th January this year he started against Sheffield Wednesday in the FA Cup.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 1 Feb 23:47
Per BBC Sport - Queen`s Park keeper Callan McKenna has joined Premier League side Bournemouth. The 17-year-old is very highly regarded.
He couldn`t stop two Lewis McCann goals at Hampden though!
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 2 Feb 02:09
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 1 Feb 23:47
Per BBC Sport - Queen`s Park keeper Callan McKenna has joined Premier League side Bournemouth. The 17-year-old is very highly regarded.
He couldn`t stop two Lewis McCann goals at Hampden though!
Few premier league teams picking up Scottish lower league players. All the best to them.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Fri 2 Feb 09:51
See in the Courier we apparently turned down a six figure sum from Barnsley for Josh Edwards.
Thought there would be some truth in that after previous interest.
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Topic Originator: Bouncer
Date: Fri 2 Feb 09:58
That was the offer I alluded to at the start of this thread.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 2 Feb 10:09
We can`t be that `skint` then.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Fri 2 Feb 10:15
I always think when a `six figure sum` is reported it probably means more like £100,000 rather than £999,999. Does that make me a pessimist?
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Fri 2 Feb 10:15
Disappointed we haven`t signed someone who would be described as a creative player.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Fri 2 Feb 10:24
We have got creative players. The problem is that they are injured. Maybe Joe Cardle, as a super sub, would fill that role until these guys come back.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 2 Feb 11:15
Quote:
LEGEND85, Fri 2 Feb 10:15
Disappointed we haven`t signed someone who would be described as a creative player.
Why would we sign another one when we already have Moffat and Summers? 🤔
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Fri 2 Feb 11:48
Quote:
Dave_1885, Fri 2 Feb 11:15
Quote:
LEGEND85, Fri 2 Feb 10:15
Disappointed we haven`t signed someone who would be described as a creative player.
Why would we sign another one when we already have Moffat and Summers? 🤔
You think these boys have created loads of chances? Despite only missing one or two games this season I must be missing that.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 2 Feb 12:06
Quote:
Dave_1885, Fri 2 Feb 11:15
Quote:
LEGEND85, Fri 2 Feb 10:15
Disappointed we haven`t signed someone who would be described as a creative player.
Why would we sign another one when we already have Moffat and Summers? 🤔
Aye, our plethora of goals this season speaks for itself...
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Fri 2 Feb 15:18
the Courier also mentions the Tommy Smith link and it not happening.
one window closed, two still open. take a punt on McPake and/or Fletcher? wait and see what comes up as loan options from the top flight? loan out a couple of the kids if injuries clear up? can still see further changes to the squad happening.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Fri 2 Feb 18:09
I would imagine the offer was Edwards would have been 100k, surprised we turned it down maybe tried to negotiate and they had other targets.
I agree on the creative player, we really needed a more experienced creative player, Moffat and summers have been very inconsistent and you really don’t know what type of performance you’re going to get from them. Summers seems an enigma, never seems fit but still seems to play
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Fri 2 Feb 19:26
Seen a figure of £150,000 mentioned but we`ve extended his contract so he still has 18 months left. That kind of sum is chump change down there, and I think we might see a few bids of that sort of figure in the summer.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 2 Feb 20:11
I see Cardiff have released Vontae Daley-Campbell too. I wonder if we will make a move for the young right back
https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/cl751p8kpqjo.amp
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Fri 2 Feb 20:23
Quote:
GJS93, Fri 2 Feb 15:18
the Courier also mentions the Tommy Smith link and it not happening.
one window closed, two still open. take a punt on McPake and/or Fletcher? wait and see what comes up as loan options from the top flight? loan out a couple of the kids if injuries clear up? can still see further changes to the squad happening.
Fletcher not an option anymore. We can’t bring him in until the summer window now. Free agents and loans from the Scottish Premiership only.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Fri 2 Feb 22:50
Quote:
par-91, Fri 2 Feb 20:23
Quote:
GJS93, Fri 2 Feb 15:18
the Courier also mentions the Tommy Smith link and it not happening.
one window closed, two still open. take a punt on McPake and/or Fletcher? wait and see what comes up as loan options from the top flight? loan out a couple of the kids if injuries clear up? can still see further changes to the squad happening.
Fletcher not an option anymore. We can’t bring him in until the summer window now. Free agents and loans from the Scottish Premiership only.
He must be a free agent if he was playing as a trialist.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Fri 2 Feb 23:55
Quote:
Kdy Par, Fri 2 Feb 22:50
Quote:
par-91, Fri 2 Feb 20:23
Quote:
GJS93, Fri 2 Feb 15:18
the Courier also mentions the Tommy Smith link and it not happening.
one window closed, two still open. take a punt on McPake and/or Fletcher? wait and see what comes up as loan options from the top flight? loan out a couple of the kids if injuries clear up? can still see further changes to the squad happening.
Fletcher not an option anymore. We can’t bring him in until the summer window now. Free agents and loans from the Scottish Premiership only.
He must be a free agent if he was playing as a trialist.
Well there’s nothing online about him being released and he’s still listed on the Middlesbrough website as their player.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 3 Feb 11:57
Quote:
Kdy Par, Fri 2 Feb 22:50
Quote:
par-91, Fri 2 Feb 20:23
Quote:
GJS93, Fri 2 Feb 15:18
the Courier also mentions the Tommy Smith link and it not happening.
one window closed, two still open. take a punt on McPake and/or Fletcher? wait and see what comes up as loan options from the top flight? loan out a couple of the kids if injuries clear up? can still see further changes to the squad happening.
Fletcher not an option anymore. We can’t bring him in until the summer window now. Free agents and loans from the Scottish Premiership only.
He must be a free agent if he was playing as a trialist.
Pretty sure you can trial players who are registered at clubs and play them in reserve/friendly games - they just cant feature in first team matches
Post Edited (Sat 03 Feb 11:57)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 5 Feb 23:29
There is an article on COWS added today which is talking about the 6 figure bid we knocked back for Josh Edwards was like signing a player. While it is good news, I didn`t realise that he is out of contact in the summer as stated in the article. A 6 figure bid for someone who can leave for free in a few months is not to be sniffed at. I guess they had to weigh it up against not having a replacement and the difference he might make to what division we are in next season
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Tue 6 Feb 00:09
We have a extra years option on edwards contract which is to be triggered, he won’t leave for free in the summer
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Tue 6 Feb 07:34
Quote:
pars4life1, Tue 6 Feb 00:09
We have a extra years option on edwards contract which is to be triggered, he won’t leave for free in the summer
Both parties need to agree, though. Edwards might not be 100% keen to stay!
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 6 Feb 08:18
Quote:
neilholland999, Tue 6 Feb 07:34
Quote:
pars4life1, Tue 6 Feb 00:09
We have a extra years option on edwards contract which is to be triggered, he won’t leave for free in the summer
Both parties need to agree, though. Edwards might not be 100% keen to stay!
Not necessarily, depends contract to contract,
I suspect ours is the clubs right to extension by 1 year.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Tue 6 Feb 08:19
No that’s not true. McPake said a wee while back that we would be triggering it so it’s obviously unilateral.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Tue 6 Feb 08:36
There is a balance to be struck with Josh Edwards. The opportunity for him to advance his career and the needs of the club and the investment they have put in. I suspect the natural opportunity for him will be to move on in the summer to give the club the opportunity to bring in new players and prepare for next season. It`s an important run in now to the end of the season for the club to avoid relegation and he is an important part of that. In my view if he remains professional and sticks to the task, it will raise his profile and give him better options in the summer.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 6 Feb 09:37
Quote:
neilholland999, Tue 6 Feb 07:34
Quote:
pars4life1, Tue 6 Feb 00:09
We have a extra years option on edwards contract which is to be triggered, he won’t leave for free in the summer
Both parties need to agree, though. Edwards might not be 100% keen to stay!
If it`s in his contract has it not been accepted by the player already?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 6 Feb 09:40
Quote:
Indiapar, Tue 6 Feb 08:36
There is a balance to be struck with Josh Edwards. The opportunity for him to advance his career and the needs of the club and the investment they have put in. I suspect the natural opportunity for him will be to move on in the summer to give the club the opportunity to bring in new players and prepare for next season. It`s an important run in now to the end of the season for the club to avoid relegation and he is an important part of that. In my view if he remains professional and sticks to the task, it will raise his profile and give him better options in the summer.
Spot on
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 6 Feb 09:52
If he goes south it will be interesting to see how gets on. Jackson Longridge made that journey a few years ago but didn`t manage to establish himself at Bradford and is now at Hamilton I think. On the other hand Andy Robertson...
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Tue 6 Feb 10:34
Andy Robertson was 19 when he went down South. Josh is 23 so he`d be doing well to get anywhere near Championship level at his age, but good luck to him once he goes.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Tue 6 Feb 10:54
Robertson was 20 when he moved to Hull - apologies for the pedantry.
Post Edited (Tue 06 Feb 10:55)
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 6 Feb 11:07
Tommy Smith has signed for Macarthur FC in Australia
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Topic Originator: bannerpar
Date: Fri 9 Feb 16:51
Raith Rovers bolster their defensive options by taking 26 year old James Brown on loan from St Johnstone. Ian Murray thanks the Board for their backing. St Johnstone must be well off for defenders, they lent one to Dundee Utd earlier this week.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Fri 9 Feb 17:09
I’m disappointed we didn’t go for him when he was available on deadline day. Surely he’s more proven than gambling on two youth team defenders?
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 9 Feb 17:22
Topic Originator: Bandy like
Date: Tue 6 Feb 10:54
Robertson was 20 when he moved to Hull - apologies for the pedantry.
AhHa bandy .. Row ZZ never mentioned Hull .. Therefore he could have went down South when 19 for a wee Holiday wi the Lads .. Blackpool maybe ? apologies for the pedantry. ;-o))
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 9 Feb 17:26
Quote:
Indiapar, Tue 6 Feb 08:36
There is a balance to be struck with Josh Edwards. The opportunity for him to advance his career and the needs of the club and the investment they have put in. I suspect the natural opportunity for him will be to move on in the summer to give the club the opportunity to bring in new players and prepare for next season. It`s an important run in now to the end of the season for the club to avoid relegation and he is an important part of that. In my view if he remains professional and sticks to the task, it will raise his profile and give him better options in the summer.
My pension is on Hibs signing him
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 9 Feb 17:28
Quote:
bannerpar, Fri 9 Feb 16:51
Raith Rovers bolster their defensive options by taking 26 year old James Brown on loan from St Johnstone. Ian Murray thanks the Board for their backing. St Johnstone must be well off for defenders, they lent one to Dundee Utd earlier this week.
He’s played 61 games for them in last three seasons, so probably the sort of experienced defender we have been crying out for ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Fri 09 Feb 17:29)
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Fri 9 Feb 18:57
but would he have wanted to come here, given the option to join a team fighting for the title? Could we have afforded him?
Let`s see how the Cardiff boys pan out after a few games.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 9 Feb 20:03
Quote:
Bandy, Fri 9 Feb 18:57
but would he have wanted to come here, given the option to join a team fighting for the title? Could we have afforded him?
Let`s see how the Cardiff boys pan out after a few games.
It depends if he was just looking to play until the end of the season or wanting to go out on loan to a club that he hoped would give him a permanent deal afterwards ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 9 Feb 20:22
Quote:
bannerpar, Fri 9 Feb 16:51
Raith Rovers bolster their defensive options by taking 26 year old James Brown on loan from St Johnstone. Ian Murray thanks the Board for their backing. St Johnstone must be well off for defenders, they lent one to Dundee Utd earlier this week.
A solid signing, the type we should have been in for.
The Rovers will be hoping that he helps them "Get Up, Get On Up". It`s another financial outlay for them, but they will be hoping for The Big Payback if they get promoted
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 9 Feb 20:36
Some of our younger fans won’t get that
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Fri 9 Feb 21:05
What they will get is that he`s exactly the kind of player we should have been looking at (cue the cries of "How do you know we weren`t?!?!"). Raith are becoming annoyingly astute in the transfer market, although you could argue some of their good signings on paper (looking at you, Kyle Turner) haven`t quite worked out yet.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 9 Feb 21:45
Big Ben released by Gloucester City
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft
Date: Sat 10 Feb 04:14
3 to 4 weeks from fitness though 🤔
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 10 Feb 07:46
And can`t be signed unless he was released before the window closed.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 10 Feb 08:08
Are folk still thinking we might sign someone?
Feels pretty conclusive to me we’re going with what we have for the rest of the season with everyone crossing thier fingers and hoping someone, anyone in the team can find some form.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 10 Feb 09:00
A year ago today exactly we signed Ewan Otoo so there`s no reason to think we won`t sign anyone this time around
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 10 Feb 10:20
Da no1 I’m assuming there won’t be anymore young loans as think we have had about enough of them and can’t see many experienced players being freed now who were not available before last weekend.
All the eggs were in the Cardiff youngsters basket, would love to be proved wrong though.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 10 Feb 10:36
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Berkey, Sat 10 Feb 10:20
Da no1 I’m assuming there won’t be anymore young loans as think we have had about enough of them and can’t see many experienced players being freed now who were not available before last weekend.
All the eggs were in the Cardiff youngsters basket, would love to be proved wrong though.
The new boy although had an absolute shocker is captain of the Cardiff u21 so there must be a player in there somewhere.
He was thrown in the deep end, fingers crossed they all get up to speed quickly and last week was just a blip.
Everyone is entitled to a bad day at the office it just so happened everyone had a nightmare at the same time,
You couldn`t make this season up.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 10 Feb 14:17
Good point weemike, do we have a single player who is in any sort of form just now?
You would have expected the captain of Cardiff under 21’s to get some of the basics right….
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sat 10 Feb 14:36
I`m not sure what standard Cardiff u21s are.In the English Professional Development League they play in, they are 2nd bottom of the bottom tier-only Colchester United are below them.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 10 Feb 16:36
Think that explains it…
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 11 Feb 00:13
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parathletic, Sat 10 Feb 14:36
I`m not sure what standard Cardiff u21s are.In the English Professional Development League they play in, they are 2nd bottom of the bottom tier-only Colchester United are below them.
English U21 and U23 league players are rubbish. We haven`t had a single one on loan from this level who was any good. If they are not playing real football by this age they are never going to play real football. They are just making up the numbers
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