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 Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:37

Enough is enough, utter shambles again. No urgency, no fight and power puff up top. We need a change in direction and fast.

Mcpake out!!
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Parallel Lines  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:38

Has to go tonight.

I looked for my pet in all the books on animals and birds and then I found it in the Book of Revelations.Marty Feldman
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:38

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Bannockburn Par, Sat 10 Feb 16:37

Enough is enough, utter shambles again. No urgency, no fight and power puff up top. We need a change in direction and fast.

Mcpake out!!


He isn`t going anywhere, the board love him
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:41

Yep, has to go now. No more excuses.

"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:42

Unequivocally Yes! But as said by Nick dafc1 he ain’t going anywhere, even if relegated

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:43

No option, unfortunately. Take a few board members too, please.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: craigypar35  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:44

His signings have been dreadful. Wish we could get the German owners and their true sportsmanship out
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:45

Has to go unfortunately. Never thought I would say that. The Germans need to pack up and leave also. They’re a massive reason why we’re in this position. Since they’ve taken over we’ve went backwards.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:46

“True sportsmanship” out

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:46

Yeah, whether he’s been sold a pup by the board or not we don’t know but by and large it’s his team and they ain’t playing for him.

Time to go, even his mates who he brought in are not playing for him.

He’s saddled the next man with absolute dross on long term deals too.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:46

It should be Cook out too
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:47

Should have been sacked after last weeks garbage .
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:48

Quote:

nick_dafc1, Sat 10 Feb 16:46

It should be Cook out too


Out and al even pay for his taxi

Come on ye pars ⚽️
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: GG4  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:48

Out.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: fergie  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:50

This is just awful
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:51

Keep McPake. Sack the board. They’re the ones taking us backwards yet again. For the a millionth time, just who the fack are these people?

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: fergie  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:51

Goal 3 for QP sums us up
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:52

YES. Two home games... 0-8...

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:53

Quote:

General Zod, Sat 10 Feb 16:51

Keep McPake. Sack the board. They’re the ones taking us backwards yet again. For the a millionth time, just who the fack are these people?


Questions need asked about the board. I`ve never been sure about one in particular after it was alleged we hired a failed manager on the basis of his recommendation.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:54

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General Zod, Sat 10 Feb 16:51

Keep McPake. Sack the board. They’re the ones taking us backwards yet again. For the a millionth time, just who the fack are these people?


The same manager who has kept the same tactics over 180mins at 0-8

Inept
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Stozy  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:55

Not sure he is the only problem, but the team is ultimately his responsibility. So, aye.

Multiple poor transfer windows and an ineffective system really doing us in.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: NikNakPar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:56

Yes. I`ll give him a lift. That was terrible yet again
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:56

Cook out. McPake out.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:57

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OzPar, Sat 10 Feb 16:56

Cook out. McPake out.


Still the issue of 2 years of chalmers and 3 years of mehmet, 2 of Wighton and lots more
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:58

100% out. Hopeless.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 16:58

Hopefully he goes but I doubt it.

He brought the players in, injuries is an excuse the team is woeful. Full of kids who clearly lack confidence.

Heads are down and so will we be.

Seaside league awaits

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: 2004Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:00

Realistically we all know he won’t be sacked for a while. Look how long it took hughes and grant to be booted .

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: KirklistonPar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:01

I get a feeling something is drastically wrong out with our manager. Is the board telling the manager who to play or is McPake not interested in winning a game. Never seems to play different formation, tactic or change the starting eleven. I know we have lots of players out injured but we’ve been watching the same players fail to win for a while now and we really need a shake up. Even the young guys in the squad can’t be any worse than what we’re needing to watch.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:01

Shambles. Time to go.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Doves  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:01

He will eventually be sacked but the damage will be done by the time we do.


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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:02

He HAS to go. Definition of madness is trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Clearly no-one has.tols McPake!
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Parsdaft  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:03

McPake out, Bullen in!
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:03

Got to go - that was that bad today we spent a large period watching the rugby!

0-8 at home in last 2 games is indefensible.

Bye bye James
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:04

Quote:

Doves, Sat 10 Feb 17:01

He will eventually be sacked but the damage will be done by the time we do.


Could go tonight and damage already done. Recruitment awful, and just persisting with a setup that doesn`t work is criminal.

We got worse with every sub he made today.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:06

The whole football operation needs to be ruthlessly torn up. Recruitment is a shambles, extending the absolute muck that got the club relegated previously. McPake has to take responsibility for failing to adapt his system at a crucial point of the season.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: nazpar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:06

The question is will a new manager get more out of the players we have .?

nazpar
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:07

Has mcpake chucked it? ie now telling the board this is the result you get when you don’t let me choose my players and don’t bring in more experience?

Feels like it and the players are taking their lead from him.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:08

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nazpar, Sat 10 Feb 17:06

The question is will a new manager get more out of the players we have .?


He`s not going to get any less, is he?
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:10

The director of football and CEO have a lot to answer for, the team are a shambles with no investment their future must be in doubt.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:11

"0-8 at home in last 2 games is indefensible."

Indeed.

Eight consecutive games winless, 6 goals for, 17 against - three points from twenty four.

Says it all.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:12

CEO better be on at least a 50% pay cut if we go down.

Hopefully we’ve learned from last time and done the same for wighton, mehmet, o’hallaran, chalmers and mccann. Although doubt it as they don’t seem to care either way.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:14

Adios

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: The Boss  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:15

100% out! The Germans can join him too!

I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:15

Another Manager coming in still has to work with these players and they are stuck with the majority for next season too !
None of us know what is going on behind the scenes so we cannot speculate
But losing 8 goals with none in reply is not a good stat !
We cannot defend these players because they are not learning from their mistakes , it`s the same week in week out any ball that comes into our box usually ends up in the net for one reason or another , if you sit back you invite teams to you , sometimes you need to attack and change your formation
I will give McPake the Arbroath game and see what happens before i say Yes/No for punting him , But who else is out there ??
I hear folk talking about Bullen , is this the same Bullen that got sacked from Ayr because of similar things to ours ? so oyu know my answer on him

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:17

Auf Wiedersehen Germans

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Kozmano1  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:18

That was brutal. It’s all over bar the shouting. Hopefully someone else at the helm . Teams full of imposters. Summers has won a watch with a 3 year deal at Celtic. No chance he will play top level football

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: KirklistonPar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:19

At this rate of free fall we will soon be playing part time football at our Rosyth training ground. These investors have been murder so far in regards to picking managers and making funds available to get players in the door.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Ianoappar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:21

Who do you get and with the dross we have given extended contracts to its a big ask to turn this around.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:21

He needs to resign ,But I have a bad feeling there maybe further issues throughout the club not just on the park.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:21

For me the board cannot be trusted.
They get rid of McPake, which I don`t think they will, who`s in the door next ?
McPake is showing here why Dundee got shot.
Having said that, I feel his hands have been tied in the windows, but he also sanctioned long deals for 3 muppets who did sfa the last time we were in this league.

What`s went on with this club over the last 6 or 7 yrs has made me not go so much and do other things on a sat and I`m actually sad for the guys who continue putting their hands in their pockets season after season, because they`re not getting value for money, nothing near it.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:27

The board set up needs looked at. Surely some fans with money who could seek to oust who`s there currently? It feels like we lost a lot of good board members but some seem to have been around way too long.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:38

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jake89, Sat 10 Feb 17:27

The board set up needs looked at. Surely some fans with money who could seek to oust who`s there currently? It feels like we lost a lot of good board members but some seem to have been around way too long.


The clubs run solely these days by Cook, Meggle and Nick Teller and has been for 2 years. Other board members effectively sit for company law only. That was explained clearly at a recent meeting.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:40

No point sacking Mcpake , no one can make those players good enough to stay up , get rid in the summer .
We`re also stuck with half these players next season in division 1 ,if we`re no in administration before then.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:40

I think it’s time to go.

Yeah we have had injuries, but there has been chances to bring in players to fill these areas, bring in young lads and go on a a bad run and it’s hard to get it turned around.

My issue is he never changes formation he has no clue. What about trying 4-4-2? 4-5-1.

He’s never brought in a striker but let 2 with experience go, but we tried to get Brophy. We couldn’t match or beat Raith in offers.

We are a joke

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:46

The Germans have destroyed our club. Under them we have went from a top 4 club to one which has been relegated twice? They have to go and they should take the joker who is known as the CEO with them. When we go down this time McPake will resign anyway. I do not know how much money has been invested in our training facility but I have been worried that we could never afford it, Falkirk tried to run one and look where they`ve been for many years.

matt forsyth
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 17:48

Really they had to either back him in the transfer window or sack him and back his replacement. They did neither. That’s why we are where we are.

Only the guys coming back from injury can save us from relegation now.

If you get bene, fisher, breen, matty Tod and krh back in then then we will start winning games. No idea on timescales for them but that is what it all hinges on now.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: LEGEND85  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:07

Quote:

Never10yairds, Sat 10 Feb 17:48

Really they had to either back him in the transfer window or sack him and back his replacement. They did neither. That’s why we are where we are.

Only the guys coming back from injury can save us from relegation now.

If you get bene, fisher, breen, matty Tod and krh back in then then we will start winning games. No idea on timescales for them but that is what it all hinges on now.


Do you think it`s a good idea to be relying on players injured for most of the season
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:11

What other option do we have at this point Legend85? The ones currently fit are going to get us relegated. The returning injured players are our only hope now after a dismal January transfer window.



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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:15

We`d only sign players with a "wow factor" as well. If McPake meant "Wow, they`re sh*te" then he is spot on.

Ridiculous recruitment. The board had to back him in January to get some signings in to turn this around, and he ended up going for inexperienced players that are clearly not up to it. We are definitely going down unless a miracle happens or the injured players come back pronto and can help turn things around. An absolute horror show of a season.

"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:16

Legend those players might help you stop leaking goals but apart from todd they ain’t going to score you goals and it’s the goals that win games.

Nevermind we can continue to watch McCann stink the place out, not his fault tho, he’s way out his depth at this level.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Dazfern  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:24

Yes.
I do hate to say it because I believe ALOT of the players and board are to blame, I also believe that he wants to do well by us. Unfortunately in my opinion he doesn`t have the quality to take us any further than a mediocre championship team. Problem is I could not tell you who we would replace him with....
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Parallel Lines  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:32

Has he gone yet?

I looked for my pet in all the books on animals and birds and then I found it in the Book of Revelations.Marty Feldman
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:33

No, and he won`t be sacked. The Board and him are one and the same. All needing to GTF.

"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:34

Probably in the out group, but who would come in and make Mehmet, Breen, Allan, Chalmers, McCann, the loanees etc into Championship level players? A Bullen type might organise things a bit better at the back but do the players we have a bailable capable of keeping a clean sheet even with better organisation? Cos we sure as hell wouldn`t be scoring many with that kind of manager, just as we don`t now.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:36

Hi Buffy, wots your opinion on this?

BCM
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:37

2 hours in and not one backing mcpake….

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:42

Mcpake post match "I will go on record saying we won`t get relegated from this league".

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:43

I think I’m on a shoogily fence, Moose

I really wanted McPake to do well this season and I still want to believe it.

I knew it would be harder this season but the big loss in goals and not having a decent (or any) striker / striking partnership is hard to take.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:48

After last week we needed a response this week,

We never got one.

I fully expected Mcpake to get the backing of the board last Monday at lunchtime,

Which we all know is lose your next match and your sacked.

I think this Monday he will get the vote of confidence and it will all hinge on next week`s match.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:54

Quote:

buffy, Sat 10 Feb 18:43

I think I’m on a shoogily fence, Moose

I really wanted McPake to do well this season and I still want to believe it.

I knew it would be harder this season but the big loss in goals and not having a decent (or any) striker / striking partnership is hard to take.


Have to say I agree. I`ve let anger get in the way. It can`t all sit on McPake. Almost everything that could go wrong this season has. Let`s see what happens with Arbroath. When you look at the table you see how tight it is.

We desperately need help up front. Even if it`s just boosting the confidence of who we have.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:57

I`m still behind McPake and want to give him the chance to turn it around and I`m confident he will be able to keep us up
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 19:00

Sadly, I think it is time. I was impressed with him last season and I really didn`t want it to come to this but today had the same feel as Stephen Kenny`s last game. Like that home loss to Dundee, today we just looked utterly bereft of anything towards the end of the game and looked like we`d never score a goal ever again.

He`s had a lot go against him this year but it just seems that some kind of change is needed. At the moment it feels that we`re sliding towards inevitable relegation unless something happens to turn us round quickly.

Maybe we just need a few breaks to go our way and it`s possible that he might turn it round. If he stays, I really hope he does but, on balance, I think I`d rather take a chance and see if a change gives us the lift we need. I`m really sad that it`s come to this.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 19:17

No. Let the guy`s who got us into the situation get us out of it. Anyone coming in will just say it was the previous manager`s fault.

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 19:18

If he was to resign I would like him to tell us the truth about the board and CEO`s signing policy.

matt forsyth
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Beeches Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 19:21

Quote:

Alter Ego, Sat 10 Feb 18:50

I would like to remind you all that is our investors did pull out we would not have a football club.


Football was not great last season but functional and did the business. We will never know how well Mcpake has been backed by the board but the last two results have been wholly unacceptable and we are now on the slippery slope to the playoffs or straight relegation. My question is do the investors care?

David G McLean
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: The moose  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 19:28

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buffy, Sat 10 Feb 18:43

I think I’m on a shoogily fence, Moose

I really wanted McPake to do well this season and I still want to believe it.

I knew it would be harder this season but the big loss in goals and not having a decent (or any) striker / striking partnership is hard to take.


Hi Buffy, I know you are hurting but I`ve supported the Pars for 50 years and I`m not sure if I`ll go back. Really hurting.
Ps I stay next door to the Bunnet. 😂

BCM
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 19:28

With a full ish team to chose from Raith, Dundee Utd and Partick beat us pretty convincingly (sometimes twice) but we looked fine besides that.

Outwith that i think we`d be 4th or 5th at worst not with standing all the injuries but here we are.

No point punting him, Mourinho or Alex Ferguson wouldn`t do any better with what is left and i think his work last season earns him the chance to turn it around.

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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 19:32




I like Mcpake but his loyalty to players who are frankly rank rotten has been his undoing, these players were incapable last time in the Championship yet were deemed good enough by him to award them long contracts,says to me his judgement on who is a good proffessional footballer is very lacking.

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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 19:39

It’s a ‘No’ from me.

1. Don’t think the board will sack him anyway.

2. Who would be available and willing to take the job?

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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 20:00

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eastendalloapar, Sat 10 Feb 19:18

If he was to resign I would like him to tell us the truth about the board and CEO`s signing policy.


Why on earth would he resign? He has bills to pay lol. Never happening.
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 20:06

Useless Christmasm out

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Topic Originator: dover par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 20:08

Three at the back, no leadership on the park, persistence on having all players defending corners is getting on ma t!ts….but who
do we bring in?

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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Topic Originator: 1985Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 20:27

No from me. He has been utterly shafted by injuries. Any plans he had at the start of the season have been shafted by injuries. Yes, all teams get injuries but, in our case, any player we have that can make a difference at this level has been injured repeatedly. Put simply all our key players have been out long term. His signings haven’t been great but I’m not convinced he’s been able to get the quality he’d like. He’s struggling at the moment but he’s been dealt an absolutely sh%%e hand and I’m not convinced anyone could have done significantly better under the circumstances.

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Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 20:32

McPake will probably be going nowhere. But he needs to change. He has to change a system that is now leaking us a lot of goals without a response at the other end.

We were under a constant press all over the park from a poor team but the space they had all over the park was ridiculous.

If Joe and Allen are his mainstays for a midfield we are seriously screwed. We need pace, aggression, and confidence. If that cannot be instilled into this squad of players we are facing a torrid time.

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Topic Originator: mars par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 20:37

If the likes of O`Halloran and Jakubiak is the quality that McPake wanted more of then I don`t see it. Maybe he wasn`t backed as well as he could have been but the signings we have made have been poor

Any manager would struggle with that injury list but other managers would find a shape that works for the players we have. The team that was on the pitch for the last two weeks is capable of far better than the results that we got - and that`s on the manager

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Topic Originator: 1985Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 20:41

No it isn’t mars par. The players on the park are not good enough. Simply not good enough and no manager or system will make them good enough.
He’s lost every one of his best players to long term injury and the support cast cannot cope without them.


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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 20:45

Looks like a fair bit of the North West have voted with their feet .

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Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 21:00

Aye he`s been shafted by injuries but the summer was a time to build a decent squad, which didn`t happen, it ended up being a case of fingers crossed nothing happens to the 1st 11, and look how that worked out.

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 21:10

I don`t believe the manager didn`t have more experienced players lined up but was probably blocked by the board
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 21:15

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saltonsgonagetu, Sat 10 Feb 20:45

Looks like a fair bit of the North West have voted with their feet .


They don`t seem very committed to the cause.


Don`t really blame them though.
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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 21:28

We could have a prime Stevie Crawford up front but it wouldn’t matter, we don’t create chances.

We aren’t direct enough. Our midfield tippy tap around when we get the ball and then it just peters out. It’s like watching Peter grants team all over again. We don’t even try to drive forward and get at teams. It’s utter p*sh to watch. Predictable and boring sideway and backwards passes. No killer instinct. No final ball. Very few strikers would score goals in this side. Add that to a makeshift defence made up of insufficient quality cover and you are really struggling. It’s a shambles.

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Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 21:33

I really can’t be bothered trawling back through old posts but I know for a fact that I questioned the involvement of “ others “ when it came to recruitment.
As expected I was shot down in flames by the usual….. “ everything is alright brigade” …….. Aye right !

What a frigging disaster we are witnessing now.

Nobody could have predicted how bad our injuries were going to be this season…..but to have done absolutely nothing about it is totally unforgivable.

Shambolic, amateurish and fr*****g incompetent is all that I can think of just now…….

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Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 21:48

Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie like
Date: Sat 10 Feb 19:28

With a full ish team to chose from Raith, Dundee Utd and Partick beat us pretty convincingly (sometimes twice) but we looked fine besides that.

Outwith that i think we`d be 4th or 5th at worst not with standing all the injuries but here we are.

No point punting him, Mourinho or Alex Ferguson wouldn`t do any better with what is left and i think his work last season earns him the chance to turn it around.


Sorry but he has proved that he has no clue…..another Pars manager who is absolutely lost. His interviews are cringeworthy…..

Let’s go down to the seaside league, with one of the best training facilities in the country …….. we are currently a joke of a club… and that hurts….

Yeah….all of us who mumped and moaned about not signing a a striker or another experienced CH were slagged off on here…….well looks looks like we were right.

In all my years following the Pars I have never felt so down as I do just now……

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Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 21:55

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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:06

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1985Par, Sat 10 Feb 20:27

No from me. He has been utterly shafted by injuries. Any plans he had at the start of the season have been shafted by injuries. Yes, all teams get injuries but, in our case, any player we have that can make a difference at this level has been injured repeatedly. Put simply all our key players have been out long term. His signings haven’t been great but I’m not convinced he’s been able to get the quality he’d like. He’s struggling at the moment but he’s been dealt an absolutely sh%%e hand and I’m not convinced anyone could have done significantly better under the circumstances.


Ocht this kind of realism simply won’t do. Time for bedwetting only.
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:10

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desparado, Sat 10 Feb 21:48

Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie like
Date: Sat 10 Feb 19:28

With a full ish team to chose from Raith, Dundee Utd and Partick beat us pretty convincingly (sometimes twice) but we looked fine besides that.

Outwith that i think we`d be 4th or 5th at worst not with standing all the injuries but here we are.

No point punting him, Mourinho or Alex Ferguson wouldn`t do any better with what is left and i think his work last season earns him the chance to turn it around.


Sorry but he has proved that he has no clue…..another Pars manager who is absolutely lost. His interviews are cringeworthy…..

Let’s go down to the seaside league, with one of the best training facilities in the country …….. we are currently a joke of a club… and that hurts….

Yeah….all of us who mumped and moaned about not signing a a striker or another experienced CH were slagged off on here…….well looks looks like we were right.

In all my years following the Pars I have never felt so down as I do just now……


we won’t have one of the best training facilities in the country as the only thing being built is the astro as that what the government funding could cover
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Topic Originator: broontroot  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:10

No from me , I don`t think for one moment that these loan signings were what he would have chosen if he had backing from the board and they had given him some money to bring players in
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Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:18

It`s a no from me at the moment but he is treading a thin line.

I say no because in 55 years of watching the Pars, I have never seen such a horrendous injury list. What`s more, a team at our level usually has only half a dozen "decent" players and the rest are shirt fillers. Unfortunately, it is all our better players that are missing. Also, I suspect that Mcpake has been unable to sign players he wanted due to financial constraints by the board.

That said, he has made some poor decisions:-
Letting Todorov go without replacing him. (Yes, he is limited but he knows where the goals are, unlike our current strikers)
Giving contract extensions to the like of Mehmet, Wighton and Chalmers.
Trying to playing formations and tactics that our players are incapable of.
Failing to bring in experienced players during the transfer window.

He is now making a bold statement saying we will not get relegated. Reminds me of Peter Grant saying we will win the league.

Watching today`s game from the stands, you could see what was going to happen. We were not pressing them, standing off, and you just knew that if you keep letting Thomas have a ping at goal, he will eventually score. We have too many lightweights in the team that are easily brushed aside. Our midfield is abysmal but because we haven`t sorted out competent replacements for the loss of Bene, Fisher & Breen, we have continually to play Otoo and Hamilton at the back when both should be in midfield.

Everyone knows how tight a league the championship is. Despite a horrendous run, we are only 4 points behind Airdrie who are 5th. The problem is we don`t look like scoring in a month of Sundays so when we lose a goal, we are beat. Confidence looks shot to ribbons. Whoever Mcpake brings in from here needs to be a battler, not another "youth player". If he can get a couple of the right kind in this week and we can somehow beat Arbroath next week, the Arbroath would be 9 adrift of us which would give us a bit of breathing space. However, if we lose, we are really in serious doo dah. In fact, a gubbing next week and I think Mcpake will be gone.
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Topic Originator: firescot  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:24

Out for me, 8-0 over two home games and sinking fast. The manager ultimately signs, picks and trains the team……and he’s now failing.

Dunfermline 6 Albion Rovers 0. On my birthday as well, thanks very much.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:40






It`s bloody tough being a legend
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:41






It`s bloody tough being a legend
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:42

Good post from Cross Par




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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: Kessel  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:47

I`d rather get rid of the owners/board than McPake. We`re being run by a bunch of frauds.
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Topic Originator: Roobz  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:49

I don’t want him to go.

I don’t think the blame lies entirely at his door - it’s not just that we have injuries, it’s the players and positions these injuries have happened. Entire centre defence, the players who provide energy and pace in the middle etc etc.

Additionally, I don’t believe he has been able to build the type of squad he wanted. Example, David Witherspoon. Trained with us most of the summer, we couldn’t seal the deal and he went off to Inverness and now moved to Tannadice. Why? After all those weeks did the manager not rate him? Possibly, but money talks and I don’t think we come up with the goods.

Where I would criticise is the lack of a signing of a proven goalscorer in the summer. But again, was that his fault and had he to make do with best available?

Make no mistake, I do believe we are in a difficult position and I think the players available are currently not good enough and lack belief. When we go a goal down, it’s game over.

Sacking the manager may bring about an immediate response -it often does - but it’s short term and I’m not sure many, if any, managers within our budget would do much better.

We have to hope Bene, KRH, Toddy, and Breen in particular, get back quickly otherwise we are not looking good.

To the bigger picture, wherever we finish this year, we do need to have a look at the whole staff. I’m no medical expert but why are we getting all theses injuries? A lot happen outwith games, so is there something wrong with training methods? Are the medical staff in any way to blame? Not accusing, just asking. Or have we just been unlucky? It does need to be investigated.

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:49

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CrossPar, Sat 10 Feb 22:18

It`s a no from me at the moment but he is treading a thin line.

I say no because in 55 years of watching the Pars, I have never seen such a horrendous injury list. What`s more, a team at our level usually has only half a dozen "decent" players and the rest are shirt fillers. Unfortunately, it is all our better players that are missing. Also, I suspect that Mcpake has been unable to sign players he wanted due to financial constraints by the board.

That said, he has made some poor decisions:-
Letting Todorov go without replacing him. (Yes, he is limited but he knows where the goals are, unlike our current strikers)
Giving contract extensions to the like of Mehmet, Wighton and Chalmers.
Trying to playing formations and tactics that our players are incapable of.
Failing to bring in experienced players during the transfer window.

He is now making a bold statement saying we will not get relegated. Reminds me of Peter Grant saying we will win the league.

Watching today`s game from the stands, you could see what was going to happen. We were not pressing them, standing off, and you just knew that if you keep letting Thomas have a ping at goal, he will eventually score. We have too many lightweights in the team that are easily brushed aside. Our midfield is abysmal but because we haven`t sorted out competent replacements for the loss of Bene, Fisher & Breen, we have continually to play Otoo and Hamilton at the back when both should be in midfield.

Everyone knows how tight a league the championship is. Despite a horrendous run, we are only 4 points behind Airdrie who are 5th. The problem is we don`t look like scoring in a month of Sundays so when we lose a goal, we are beat. Confidence looks shot to ribbons. Whoever Mcpake brings in from here needs to be a battler, not another "youth player". If he can get a couple of the right kind in this week and we can somehow beat Arbroath next week, the Arbroath would be 9 adrift of us which would give us a bit of breathing space. However, if we lose, we are really in serious doo dah. In fact, a gubbing next week and I think Mcpake will be gone.


Great post ,we can`t compete with so many young inexperienced players, Also having so many players on loan ,we will soon have more loan players than signed players ,can`t remember a time thevpars have had so many loan players, this tells me there are bigger issues financially within the club ,I may be wrong
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Topic Originator: DNCH  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 02:06

I like McPake and I`m, more so, tired of just giving up on managers. But he needs to show immediately why he`s understood to be a good manager. It makes you wonder why on the back of 2 crucial wins, Dundee rolled the dice on replacing him anyway?

What I will say is I`ve had some concerns about McPake`s ability to convince players to join us. It feels like every time there is a player linked with us they go elsewhere or it just doesn`t happen at all.

You can almost be left with the impression that the club`s short term ambition is to develop relationships with clubs in England/Wales in order to tap into a market where we might unearth a young star who can then be sold. That`s fair enough, and might be out with McPake`s control, but the ongoing radio silence from him, Cook and Meggle is jarring at this point. It doesn`t need to be a public statement but anything that will manage our expectations about what we`re trying to do this season would help.

I say let`s stick with him. He knows he needs a win against Arbroath and that might settle the nerves but if we lose than one too then the writing might be on the wall (assuming it isn`t already).

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 08:13

I think we’re all assuming lose against arbroath and mcpake will be away. Well that or we’ll have written this season off. We’ll get done by Hamilton in playoffs if 9th too.

If mcpake stays next season will be more of the same given contracts handed out.

Apart from the 2 from the old firm we’re seeing where constantly taking the cheap option or the old pals act has got us.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 08:24

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Berkey, Sun 11 Feb 08:13

I think we’re all assuming lose against arbroath and mcpake will be away. Well that or we’ll have written this season off. We’ll get done by Hamilton in playoffs if 9th too.

If mcpake stays next season will be more of the same given contracts handed out.

Apart from the 2 from the old firm we’re seeing where constantly taking the cheap option or the old pals act has got us.


You forgot Fisher. He is decent.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 08:26

I think that the top 5 in the championship and bottom 5 in the Premiership there is little difference in the teams. Likewise for the top 5 in League 1 and the bottom 5 in the championship. If we finish 9th there is no guarantee we won`t go down. The injuries we have had couldn`t have bèen predicted. We are where we are and we can only look forward. What is important is the actions we take now. We won`t finish 4th so I see the target as 5th to 8th. Its immaterial as long as we are not 9th. Can we achieve that- yes, are we capable of achieving that- yes but we need some experience. As Alan Hanson famously said, you will never win anything with kids. It`s doesn`t mean they are individually bad players, but collectively they don`t have the experience to get the response we need right now and it`s unfair to expect them to do so. It`s far to simplistic to blame the manager. It`s more complex than that.
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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 08:52

I don’t think we can use injuries to suggest we don’t critically look at his performance as a manager.

The question has to be asked, is he getting the maximum out of the resources available to him?
Is he setting up the team to best use the players he has?
Is he countering what the opposition have, how they set up and how the game is playing out?
Has he motivated the players to give it their all in training and during matches?
Are the team well coached so every one knows what runs they will be making, where players will be?
Is he recruiting well?

Before you even look at results, that’s the first things I’d consider and then finally, is he getting the results you’d expect?

I personally believe that the players we have available should be enough, if well managed and well coached to stay in the league. I’m not expecting to win the league but our performances have been poor, we’re wedded to a formation that clearly isn’t working and we don’t look like a well coached team which is evident in the goals we conceded and our lack of being able to fashion chances
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Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 08:57

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DBP, Sun 11 Feb 08:52

I don’t think we can use injuries to suggest we don’t critically look at his performance as a manager.

The question has to be asked, is he getting the maximum out of the resources available to him?
Is he setting up the team to best use the players he has?
Is he countering what the opposition have, how they set up and how the game is playing out?
Has he motivated the players to give it their all in training and during matches?
Are the team well coached so every one knows what runs they will be making, where players will be?
Is he recruiting well?

Before you even look at results, that’s the first things I’d consider and then finally, is he getting the results you’d expect?

I personally believe that the players we have available should be enough, if well managed and well coached to stay in the league. I’m not expecting to win the league but our performances have been poor, we’re wedded to a formation that clearly isn’t working and we don’t look like a well coached team which is evident in the goals we conceded and our lack of being able to fashion chances


The answer is no to all of them questions,

I`m afraid it looks like his coaching abilities are limited.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 09:14

5 out of the 11 that started yesterday started week 1 v Airdrie. Yes the injuries have been an issue but the issue wasn`t rectified in January. It either falls at mcpake or cooks desk either way it`s not good enough. The "performances" put in by players brought in to improve us or our senior players was no short of a disgrace and it has been for months. We don`t look like we have anyone big enough to stand up and be counted. Worrying indeed if we don`t beat Arbroath I think that 9th will be a let off.

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 09:21

He either needed to stick to a formation and get players who can play in it or change formation to suit the players he has.

He’s done neither.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 09:26

For any chance of us staying up, then yes he has to go. But we can’t afford to sack him so he’ll be going nowhere at all. If he doesn’t change formation then we’ll be finishing 10th

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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 09:43

No. I could well change my mind if we lose to Arbroath.
If one or two experienced players get brought in, this should make a difference.

IMO Otoo should play up front with McCann. You heard it here first :-)

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Topic Originator: sonofpetrie  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 10:20

As I`ve mentioned before, it`s a symbiotic relationship. He doesn`t push too hard asking for players and the board do not offer. The board love this as it`s costing them very little compared to teams around us.

In answer to the original question, he needs to go. His absolute blind stubbornness when it comes to tactics has very little to do with what`s going on behind the scenes.

I have watched Dunfermline for nearly half a century so have seen them lose more than win. That`s not an issue as I`ll love them till the day I die. It`s the manner in which they lose that is eroding the support. If McPake cannot see the situation we`re in won`t be solved by having Chalmers floating around the middle of the park constantly passing back into danger and spending more time adjusting his socks and hair than tackling then he`s in the wrong job.

Can we also remember that when we had a "full squad" he benched Hamilton. The man who is now captain and played out of position with a broken cheekbone. I am not convinced that were we to have everyone back tomorrow he wouldn`t do the same thing and drop him to the bench again.

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary"
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Topic Originator: NW 1966  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 11:13

NO
Get in the sea with this gash.

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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 13:30

"The Germans have destroyed our club. Under them we have went from a top 4 club to one which has been relegated twice?"

It`s season 2003/2004 since we finished fourth in the top tier - a lot has gone down in those twenty years.

That ongoing position was unsustainable for reasons we all know about - evident in what followed three seasons later.

The two successive relegation seasons that followed promotion from the Championship 2010/11 were long before the Germans made an appearance.

Their involvement has co-incided with one play off relegation followed by an immediate promotion back to the Championship.

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Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 13:35

I suspect he was meaning "top 4 championship".

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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 16:02

I certainly was Pars fan. I however have little faith in anyone who thinks that driving out Stevie C and Ross Mc then getting in the jokers who are now in charge. I know that McPake hasn`t been brilliant this season however 2 things have been against him. 1. The injuries and 2. The financial backing of the board. I heard no2 starting on the final day of last season, I was told that it was too expensive to keep Todorov, yet somehow Airdrie with a third of our support can afford his wage demands. Are we so strapped for money that all we can get in are youngsters.
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 16:05

The deal offered to the likes of Dave Witherspoon was an absolute embarrassment and completely in line with the sinister running of the club from Der Krauts .
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 16:10

If we are `strapped for money` why did we turn out down a six-figure fee for Edwards? I`ve asked that question a few times on here and have yet to get an answer. And how are we going to finance the two loan deals McPake says we are trying to secure? People just believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts. It`s the thing I find most frustrating about this forum.

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Topic Originator: 1985Par  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 16:10

Any player we have that can elevate us to as good or better than championship opponents has been crocked pretty much all season. Either crocked or recovering from being crocked. He’s been told to shop in the bargain basement to patch things up and the result is 0-5 and 0-3.

You can sack McPake and get someone else in but they’ll do no better until our key players get fit or the new guy gets some serious funds.

Players looked up for it yesterday- cannot question work rate and effort. The quality isn’t there.



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Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 17:16

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wee eck, Sun 11 Feb 16:10

If we are `strapped for money` why did we turn out down a six-figure fee for Edwards? I`ve asked that question a few times on here and have yet to get an answer. And how are we going to finance the two loan deals McPake says we are trying to secure? People just believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts. It`s the thing I find most frustrating about this forum.


Was it confirmed by club that we did?





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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 17:30

McPake was quoted in the press saying he was pleased the board didn`t accept the offer. There`s still an item on COWS under `News` about it.

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Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 18:04

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DJAS, Sun 11 Feb 17:16

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wee eck, Sun 11 Feb 16:10

If we are `strapped for money` why did we turn out down a six-figure fee for Edwards? I`ve asked that question a few times on here and have yet to get an answer. And how are we going to finance the two loan deals McPake says we are trying to secure? People just believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts. It`s the thing I find most frustrating about this forum.


Was it confirmed by club that we did?


Yes.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 18:14

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DBA, Sun 11 Feb 18:04

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DJAS, Sun 11 Feb 17:16

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wee eck, Sun 11 Feb 16:10

If we are `strapped for money` why did we turn out down a six-figure fee for Edwards? I`ve asked that question a few times on here and have yet to get an answer. And how are we going to finance the two loan deals McPake says we are trying to secure? People just believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts. It`s the thing I find most frustrating about this forum.


Was it confirmed by club that we did?


Yes.


Maybe the board knowing they have cut the managers war chest to sign players in the summer and January, thought Edwards and some inexperienced youngsters could be the players to keep us up , unfortunately, if that was the thinking, they have been proved spectacularly wrong .

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 18:19

`Maybe..., if...,`. Aye right.

That just illustrates the point I was making about people just believing what they want to believe.

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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 18:23

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wee eck, Sun 11 Feb 18:19

`Maybe..., if...,`. Aye right.

That just illustrates the point I was making about people just believing what they want to believe.


Where did I say I believed it, the clue word was maybe

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 18:36

Why even speculate if you don`t know the facts? The default setting of so many on here is that the board aren`t supporting the manager`s signing plans. McPake has never even hinted that that is the case.

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Topic Originator: LEGEND85  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 18:47

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wee eck, Sun 11 Feb 18:36

Why even speculate if you don`t know the facts? The default setting of so many on here is that the board aren`t supporting the manager`s signing plans. McPake has never even hinted that that is the case.


Would be strange if McPake did decide to have a go at the folk who employ him with regards to the lack of decent signings.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 18:54

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wee eck, Sun 11 Feb 18:36

Why even speculate if you don`t know the facts? The default setting of so many on here is that the board aren`t supporting the manager`s signing plans. McPake has never even hinted that that is the case.


Either the board have fully backed Mcpake and he`s totally wasted the money given to him, by resigning players who are not good enough for the top half of the championship, and wasting money on poor loan signings , or he`s been hamstrung by the board in his signings , hence our lamentable football and league position .

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 18:56

You can make a judgement when you hear him comment on any transfer issues. You`re falling into the same trap. If what someone says doesn`t fit your interpretation you just say it`s `fake news`. It happens all the time in politics and now it`s infected football, mainly because of the influence of social media.

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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 19:17

What is not fake is the level of entertainment and football this season and most of last has not been good enough . Mcpake got pass marks for getting us promoted, after being lumbered with the players from the league above on 2 year deals , to give some of those players further deals , has been proven to be wrong .

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 19:30

That`s a different argument.

If he`s still hoping to bring in loan signings then the board must still be supporting him financially and the next week or so will tell us if he`s telling porkies.

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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 19:33

I will say again - whos to say that players actually WANT to join us?

We have a generally big fan base, but a part of that fan base is toxic. If a player isn’t performing to their standards they get absolute dogs abuse. We single out a player/2 players after 1 game of the season as a scape goat. Lose a goal and half the crowd turns instantly. Our “ultras” continually break rules regarding pyros/objects being thrown. They didn’t even bother showing up yesterday….EEP was like a graveyard yesterday!

Managers don’t get support from the board. Players talk - maybe some of our current squad are unhappy and told potential suitors this?

Financially we probably aren’t offering big money due to having so much wrapped up in injuries. So offering a pittance in comparison. Why would you sign for a small fee for a club looking destined for the drop? Career suicide!
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 19:43

Loanees continue to be paid by their own club do they not? The loanee club makes a contribution to their wages. There won`t be any financial negotiations between the player and the loanee club.

There are all sorts of theories about why players don`t sign and why signings haven`t happened earlier. I can understand that certain players only become available towards the end of the window when their clubs are sure they are surplus to requirements.

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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 19:50

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wee eck, Sun 11 Feb 19:43

Loanees continue to be paid by their own club do they not? The loanee club makes a contribution to their wages. There won`t be any financial negotiations between the player and the loanee club.

There are all sorts of theories about why players don`t sign and why signings haven`t happened earlier. I can understand that certain players only become available towards the end of the window when their clubs are sure they are surplus to requirements.


Its all different in terms of wages - some will be paid in full by either club or the clubs will share it. I highly doubt we got the four from England for no wages - most likely we are paying over 50% and they wont be on small wages.

Either way, it cuts into the budget especially if they aren’t good enough…
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 19:58

Hopefully we get someone in the Rutkiewcz and Hardie ilk and not a Polworth or Lawless type !

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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 20:19

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TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Sun 11 Feb 19:58

Hopefully we get someone in the Rutkiewcz and Hardie ilk and not a Polworth or Lawless type !


Aye those two useless players playing regularly in the Prem and top 3 in Champ 🙄😂
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 21:31

Polworth and lawless would be massive upgrades.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 22:22

Getting back to the question of this thread. McPake in for me. We are going through a torrid spell we were doing fine up to mid December and yes it is February now but games have been postponed etc. Injuries have came to a major crescendo and its now showing. I agree the transfer window should have been better and I also would like to know why we are not in the running for some players even when interest has been shown.

I actually found James` interview after yesterday quite spirited compared to the last couple. He`s a young manager and I think he`s carried himself well overall. He trusts in the players just a couple of tweaks and breaks is all we need. Aswell as him opting to change things. Anyone suggesting he sounds like that jester John Hughes clearly wasn`t there the season we went down.

I`d urge anyone to take a wee look at our games last season on ParsTV YouTube. The togetherness, the fight, the fans etc. Yes it may have been against postmen etc but he had his reasons for sticking by the ones that are here. Now here we are. Being a Pars Fan is a tough gig sometimes but I`m confident we`ll ride out this storm.

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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 22:29

McPake in for me as I think our board/ general manager have had to make decisions based on saving money/academy build etc so the manager can only work with what he has.

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 23:03

McPake in for me. Sure things aren`t going the way we want, but until the game away to Queens Park, we were being competitive. It`s been a bad few weeks, but I think he can turn it round.

Not long ago since we were 4th and had a great team spirit. The injuries have decimated the squad, and they have been running on empty for months now.

You can only p with the c yuv goat, so I think we need to get behind the manager and the team
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Topic Originator: Gusmcpherson  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 23:11

Should go for saying ‘we won’t go down’ like that’s some sort of flex!

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Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 23:20

In addition, our biggest loss this season without doubt has been Bene. We desperately need him back.
No CB we bring in will replace him. He`s mouthy, he`s an organiser, he steps up and he`s solid.

McPake must be desperate for the spine of the team to come back but he`s never moaned once in interviews infact all he has done is praise the treatment and ongoing rehabilitation the players have received.
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Topic Originator: Toumba Libre  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 23:22

Some of you fools have forgotten that we have had unreal levels of injuries. But on you go, boo the team and rinse and repeat. Booing the team has always helped
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Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 23:22

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Gusmcpherson, Sun 11 Feb 23:11

Should go for saying ‘we won’t go down’ like that’s some sort of flex!


Some sort of flex? Eh? Enlighten an auld yin like me.
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Topic Originator: Toumba Libre  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 23:27



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Topic Originator: Toumba Libre  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 23:27

The shouts against the board are equally as funny as the folk trying to explain how they should splash the cash because shipping cost have gone up 😂
Clearly highlighting how little you understand of logistics after reading a daily mail headline/article.
Never mind them saying they wouldn’t chuck milions at the team

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Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 00:48

https://youtu.be/fw1BadknHRg?si=WMrtI2Rc0cjrfeCW

Not sure if that link will work. But it's worth the watch. Especially now.

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Topic Originator: Toumba Libre  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 01:12

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SergioDuarte, Sun 11 Feb 16:05

The deal offered to the likes of Dave Witherspoon was an absolute embarrassment and completely in line with the sinister running of the club from Der Krauts .


If the poster is serious then l hope you get the help you need. All the best man
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Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 01:18

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Toumba Libre, Mon 12 Feb 01:12

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SergioDuarte, Sun 11 Feb 16:05

The deal offered to the likes of Dave Witherspoon was an absolute embarrassment and completely in line with the sinister running of the club from Der Krauts .


If the poster is serious then l hope you get the help you need. All the best man


Usual slinging of words with no actual back up pal. You talk my language
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Topic Originator: Toumba Libre  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 01:30

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Toumba Libre, Mon 12 Feb 01:12

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SergioDuarte, Sun 11 Feb 16:05

The deal offered to the likes of Dave Witherspoon was an absolute embarrassment and completely in line with the sinister running of the club from Der Krauts .


If the poster is serious then l hope you get the help you need. All the best man


Usual slinging of words with no actual back up pal. You talk my language


“Sinister”.. haha show me your back up “pal”
The only thing sinister is the sh1t aimed at these people. Sling some words with actual facts and meaning “pal”
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Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 01:40

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Toumba Libre, Mon 12 Feb 01:12

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SergioDuarte, Sun 11 Feb 16:05

The deal offered to the likes of Dave Witherspoon was an absolute embarrassment and completely in line with the sinister running of the club from Der Krauts .


If the poster is serious then l hope you get the help you need. All the best man


Usual slinging of words with no actual back up pal. You talk my language


“Sinister”.. haha show me your back up “pal”
The only thing sinister is the sh1t aimed at these people. Sling some words with actual facts and meaning “pal”


I`m on your side. I was in agreement with you.
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Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 09:52

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SergioDuarte, Sun 11 Feb 16:05

The deal offered to the likes of Dave Witherspoon was an absolute embarrassment and completely in line with the sinister running of the club from Der Krauts .


Ok. And do you know why the club wouldn`t get bent out of shape for Wetherspoon?
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Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 10:00

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87Par, Mon 12 Feb 09:52

Quote:

SergioDuarte, Sun 11 Feb 16:05

The deal offered to the likes of Dave Witherspoon was an absolute embarrassment and completely in line with the sinister running of the club from Der Krauts .


Ok. And do you know why the club wouldn`t get bent out of shape for Wetherspoon?


I`ve an idea. Could be a hunch. He went up to Inverness cos they were daft enough to give his wage demands. And then guess what he popped back down the A9 when there was an extra 0 on offer. For an experienced player. Yeah. He`s a player indeed. Fine line between people who are actually at the club for career or just cos they ave some sort of name in the game. Our relegation season. Take a swatch at the names. Couple in there are somehow doing not bad at all at their clubs. I wonder why eh . I do question how our transfer window has panned out but at the same time I don't want people at my football team thinking their name is above DAFC.

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Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 11:02

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87Par, Mon 12 Feb 10:00

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87Par, Mon 12 Feb 09:52

Quote:

SergioDuarte, Sun 11 Feb 16:05

The deal offered to the likes of Dave Witherspoon was an absolute embarrassment and completely in line with the sinister running of the club from Der Krauts .


Ok. And do you know why the club wouldn`t get bent out of shape for Wetherspoon?


I`ve an idea. Could be a hunch. He went up to Inverness cos they were daft enough to give his wage demands. And then guess what he popped back down the A9 when there was an extra 0 on offer. For an experienced player. Yeah. He`s a player indeed. Fine line between people who are actually at the club for career or just cos they ave some sort of name in the game. Our relegation season. Take a swatch at the names. Couple in there are somehow doing not bad at all at their clubs. I wonder why eh . I do question how our transfer window has panned out but at the same time I don`t want people at my football team thinking their name is above DAFC.


He went to Inverness for less than we offered. The reason he went there was there was no other offers by that time. He turned us down as he was told by his agent he would get him more somewhere else. The move to United albeit was more than Inverness but was more to do with his home life. In his words he should have took our offer.





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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 18:58

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SergioDuarte, Sun 11 Feb 16:05

The deal offered to the likes of Dave Witherspoon was an absolute embarrassment and completely in line with the sinister running of the club from Der Krauts .


Hate this post. Grow up.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 19:57

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87Par, Sun 11 Feb 22:22

Getting back to the question of this thread. McPake in for me. We are going through a torrid spell we were doing fine up to mid December and yes it is February now but games have been postponed etc. Injuries have came to a major crescendo and its now showing. I agree the transfer window should have been better and I also would like to know why we are not in the running for some players even when interest has been shown.

I actually found James` interview after yesterday quite spirited compared to the last couple. He`s a young manager and I think he`s carried himself well overall. He trusts in the players just a couple of tweaks and breaks is all we need. Aswell as him opting to change things. Anyone suggesting he sounds like that jester John Hughes clearly wasn`t there the season we went down.

I`d urge anyone to take a wee look at our games last season on ParsTV YouTube. The togetherness, the fight, the fans etc. Yes it may have been against postmen etc but he had his reasons for sticking by the ones that are here. Now here we are. Being a Pars Fan is a tough gig sometimes but I`m confident we`ll ride out this storm.


Good post 87.



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 Re: Mcpake out?? Yes or No
Topic Originator: thebear  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 00:20

Massive c*ck up in the closed season, too much loyalty, holding to toomany poor players and not getting quality, not sure who`s to blame but must in part be the manager.
But don`t get rid of him, best chance to hang on and then flourish
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Topic Originator: SergioDuarte  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 10:21

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SergioDuarte, Sun 11 Feb 16:05

The deal offered to the likes of Dave Witherspoon was an absolute embarrassment and completely in line with the sinister running of the club from Der Krauts .


Hate this post. Grow up.


Enjoy the club getting destroyed then.
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