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 Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:50

Mcpake quoting we are about to add a couple of experienced players. Let’s hope it’s done on Monday.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:52

What will have changed to only get these guys in now? Why not 2 weeks ago or even a week ago?

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:53

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Berkey, Sat 10 Feb 18:52

What will have changed to only get these guys in now? Why not 2 weeks ago or even a week ago?


It’s possible teams they are coming from needed to sign or had players coming back from injury. Maybe not but possible.





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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:54

I will believe that when I see it and why let 12 points go west before doing it?

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: KirklistonPar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:55

I hope it’s the best midfielder and striker in the world or were doomed, doomed I tell yea!

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:55

Get yer boots to the ready KirklistonPar!

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:55

Maybe DJAS or after today we are suddenly prepared to meet the terms the teams want to loan them.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:58

Quote:

Berkey, Sat 10 Feb 18:55

Maybe DJAS or after today we are suddenly prepared to meet the terms the teams want to loan them.


That’s also possible. Really should have done something earlier.





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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 18:58

They really will have to be top players to turn around this form and descent
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: The Boss  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 19:04

Why has it taken to this point to try and get these sort of players in? Time to scrap this just signing youngsters. Especially when most of them wouldn’t get a game for Cowdenbeath. Let’s just do what every other club does and have a balance of players. These investors/board have a lot to answer for. I wouldn’t trust them to run a bath.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: InschPar  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 19:24

As McPake has said countless times, once the Premiership window closes, these teams reassess their squads, and decide who they can afford to send out on loan !!

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Alf  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 19:37

So who are Dundee letting go?
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 20:08

Too late

Ep.14 of East End Tales is out now- The Draft

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 20:14

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EastEndTales, Sat 10 Feb 20:08

Too late


Not too late ,13 games to go and a game in hand ,
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 20:25

13 games to go and if it’s true then we will be ok sitting 7th in the Chamionship where our board expected…

Mon the Pars!
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 20:28

Hopefully a Central midfielder who has a bit of physical presence as a starter.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 21:23

Will they count Josh McPake and Joe Cardle as experienced - jokes

No sure what he’s been like but Darren Brownlie left Dundalk at end of Jan. 29 was in the play offs with Partick few seasons back



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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 21:35

Thank f*ck for that. I hope they are decent.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: The Boss  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:46

Quote:

EastEndTales, Sat 10 Feb 20:08

Too late


Agree. Going to take a miracle to bring in enough quality/experience to turn this around. To be brutally honest half the team needs chucked.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Kaiser  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 22:56

It’s 15 loanees required not feckn two 👎

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 23:22

Hopefully after that the board will trigger some sort of reserve to give McPake dosh to get some experienced Misfielders and defenders in. It`s desperate now.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 10 Feb 23:36

How many loan players are allowed
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: forever black and white  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 00:11

A quick look and and I see Queens Park had 5 players 21or under in the starting line up . More than dafc. So I`m sorry the injury list and having to play youngsters doesn`t wash. There just not good enough . That`s what scares me the most with the amount of money getting spent on the academy we can`t seem to attract good enough young talent.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Bouncer  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 03:10

Incoming was planned before today.
There is method in different windows for different divisions and sometimes you have to wait to see if new signings for other teams settle before they decide who they can loan out or release.
On the injury front MFW and Jakubiak will be back in training this week.



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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 03:53

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Bouncer, Sun 11 Feb 03:10

Incoming was planned before today.
There is method in different windows for different divisions and sometimes you have to wait to see if new signings for other teams settle before they decide who they can loan out or release.
On the injury front MFW and Jakubiak will be back in training this week.



Jakubiak will answer all our goalscoring needs, he`s absolutely guff too
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 04:23

I will tell you what, if these two signings have Dundee or St Johnstone connections, I will blow a frickin` fuse...

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 07:53

Oz I think st Johnstone striker Chris Kane is one of the rumours.

Problem is when you look at the team it’s hard to pick what area needs strengthened first. For me it’s the middle of the park.

Squad is now a mess, too many young loans who we might as well send back now and some older players who we could do with sending out on loan for 18 months!



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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Parallel Lines  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 12:52

Its too late. Arbroath will have seen how we play and will be right up for the match. Another defeat.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 14:22

We`d be as well sending Moffat, Benjamin, Summers and MFW back. Moffat doesn`t get a game, and often games pass him by, despite having effort. Benjamin is obviously hopeless and not ready at any sort of competitive level, same as MFW. Summers is way too naive and hasn`t got the brains in this league. He is too greedy and costs us possession too much. You get away with that in the dross leagues and in the B team. He`ll be a costly loan as well and we aren`t getting anything out of him for the money. We need to use that money on experience. These guys might have talent but this league is a totally different beast altogether. You can`t have young, inexperienced guys trying to skin the opposition constantly.

It`s desperate, but we need a couple of proper, experienced midfielders and one experienced defender in IMO. If it costs money to terminate these guys loans and replace them, it has to be done, as it will be a lot cheaper than getting relegated to League 1. We simply cannot go down after all the effort of last season.

If it is genuinely feasible then it has to be done. This can`t go on.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 14:35

Ignore that.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 14:45

I’d agree row zz but I doubt any of them will be sent back. I just hope the experienced pros coming in can steady the ship.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 14:46

"McPake revealed after Saturday’s dismal defeat to Queen’s Park that he had been close to adding a new signing ahead of the game.

Another is hopefully also in the pipeline this week.

Both are understood to be vastly experienced performers who can inspire and lead by example"

in the Courier.

it wont be a long list of options, at a guess a dozen or so and yes that will include guys at Dundee and StJohnstone.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 14:47

I’ll go with Ashcroft and Stevie may as my guesses.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 14:51

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Berkey, Sun 11 Feb 07:53

Oz I think st Johnstone striker Chris Kane is one of the rumours.

Problem is when you look at the team it’s hard to pick what area needs strengthened first. For me it’s the middle of the park.

Squad is now a mess, too many young loans who we might as well send back now and some older players who we could do with sending out on loan for 18 months!


Center midfield is crucial for us.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 14:56

Chris Kane is on the bench for SJ today in the game against Dundee.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 15:10

Centre mid is required the most I’d say

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: LEGEND85  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 15:19

Did anyone else notice at the game yesterday the injured players were standing at the tunnel area and one boy I didn`t recognise thought maybe the boy fletcher but not sure anyone else see that?
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: StevenPar77  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 16:05

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wee eck, Sun 11 Feb 14:56

Chris Kane is on the bench for SJ today in the game against Dundee.


Nicky Clark, an unused sub, too, I noticed.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 16:13

17 minutes added but they still didn`t get on!

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: pars1989  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 16:13

Am saying peter haring from hearts

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 16:34

It`s that just a punt on your part, pars1989? Haring`s not in the Hearts squad for the cup-tie at Airdrie.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: bigdonnie  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 16:59

lets hope its roy of rovers or gorgeous gus and billy the fish still better than memet lol no kidding if we lose to arbroath were in titanic mode lol

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 17:08

Pretty sure you cant terminate loans outside of transfer windows, meaning they will remain until the end of the season
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 17:20

"I didn`t recognise thought maybe the boy fletcher but not sure anyone else see that?"

it was.

if we are taking guesses ill go Paul Hanlon for one, Ali Crawford maybe as the second.

"How many loan players are allowed"

4 spots left before the end of the month. way things are right now need to use all of them and thats before including any free agents.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: The Boss  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 17:27

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Row_ZZ, Sun 11 Feb 14:22

We`d be as well sending Moffat, Benjamin, Summers and MFW back. Moffat doesn`t get a game, and often games pass him by, despite having effort. Benjamin is obviously hopeless and not ready at any sort of competitive level, same as MFW. Summers is way too naive and hasn`t got the brains in this league. He is too greedy and costs us possession too much. You get away with that in the dross leagues and in the B team. He`ll be a costly loan as well and we aren`t getting anything out of him for the money. We need to use that money on experience. These guys might have talent but this league is a totally different beast altogether. You can`t have young, inexperienced guys trying to skin the opposition constantly.

It`s desperate, but we need a couple of proper, experienced midfielders and one experienced defender in IMO. If it costs money to terminate these guys loans and replace them, it has to be done, as it will be a lot cheaper than getting relegated to League 1. We simply cannot go down after all the effort of last season.

If it is genuinely feasible then it has to be done. This can`t go on.


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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 17:34

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GJS93, Sun 11 Feb 17:20

"I didn`t recognise thought maybe the boy fletcher but not sure anyone else see that?"

it was.

if we are taking guesses ill go Paul Hanlon for one, Ali Crawford maybe as the second.

"How many loan players are allowed"

4 spots left before the end of the month. way things are right now need to use all of them and thats before including any free agents.


Not Ali Crawford. That’s a definite as I know him.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 17:58

Cardle and Josh McPake?

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Parallel Lines  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 17:59

Any players left at St Johnstone and Dundee?
Expect Benjamin on the bench from now on. Done sfa to merit a start

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 19:11

I thought if both clubs agreed to it, loans could be terminated at any time? I hope so because Summers and Moffat are just not up to it. Probably will have good enough careers in the game, but at this stage we need guys with experience that can dig is out a hole.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 19:22

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Row_ZZ, Sun 11 Feb 19:11

I thought if both clubs agreed to it, loans could be terminated at any time? I hope so because Summers and Moffat are just not up to it. Probably will have good enough careers in the game, but at this stage we need guys with experience that can dig is out a hole.


Of course loans can be terminated at any time. The player just can`t play for their parent club until the next window.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 19:34

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Row_ZZ, Sun 11 Feb 19:11

I thought if both clubs agreed to it, loans could be terminated at any time? I hope so because Summers and Moffat are just not up to it. Probably will have good enough careers in the game, but at this stage we need guys with experience that can dig is out a hole.


Quite possibly but the player wont be available till window opens again, so fairly pointless from parent clubs view.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: fcda  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 21:11

... and if there`s an agreement in place where we pay a percentage of their wages, it`s not in the parent club`s interest to cancel.

Far more sensible to keep them around the squad, and, for some, not judge them on 1 or 2 games.

KRH didn`t really establish himself until the 2nd half of the season, in a mostly winning team. Not saying that [I]will[/I] happen of course.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 11 Feb 21:27

“Both are understood to be vastly experienced performers who can inspire and lead by example"

Mcpake would also have said this about o’hallaran and jakubiak.

Will be interesting to see why comes in and if they make the cut, law of averages suggests mcpake is due a good signing soon…

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 02:52

I miss the days we had Geggan and Josh terrorising teams. Don`t think we`ve had a single effecting midfield duo since
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 03:01

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Andrew283, Mon 12 Feb 02:52

I miss the days we had Geggan and Josh terrorising teams. Don`t think we`ve had a single effecting midfield duo since


I`ll take you a wee shade further back. It was better.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 09:24

Need a Jim Scott, Ray Farningham, Ian Ferguson type in the midfield.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 09:31

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Andrew283, Mon 12 Feb 02:52

I miss the days we had Geggan and Josh terrorising teams. Don`t think we`ve had a single effecting midfield duo since


Wedderburn and Shiels helped contribute to our best finish since admin tbf, whereas Josh and Geggan didnt 🫢 but Id take all 4 in the prime over this current crop!
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: LEGEND85  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 09:40

We could do with any new signings being announced today to at least have them involved with the current squad and to get ready for a massive game on Saturday.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 09:41

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LochgellyAlbert, Mon 12 Feb 09:24

Need a Jim Scott, Ray Farningham, Ian Ferguson type in the midfield.


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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 10:22

I played against Ian Ferguson and he tore me a new one. Great player who had the focus on the prize all the time. You knew you were in a game against him and that it will hurt.
Superb player.
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Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 10:36

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parsmad68, Mon 12 Feb 10:22

I played against Ian Ferguson and he tore me a new one. Great player who had the focus on the prize all the time. You knew you were in a game against him and that it will hurt.

Top class was Ian Ferguson.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: bigdonnie  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 10:40

hope its a carpenter to board our goals up both halves lol if you didnt laugh you would cry this time last season so happy breaking records

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 10:43

Quick, close the thread, we aren’t allowed to speculate on potential signings as its speculation!!!
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 11:24

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Raymie the Legend, Mon 12 Feb 09:41

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LochgellyAlbert, Mon 12 Feb 09:24

Need a Jim Scott, Ray Farningham, Ian Ferguson type in the midfield.


“Scottie’s gonnae get ye”


Hard as nails!
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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 12:40

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LochgellyAlbert, Mon 12 Feb 11:24

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Raymie the Legend, Mon 12 Feb 09:41

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LochgellyAlbert, Mon 12 Feb 09:24

Need a Jim Scott, Ray Farningham, Ian Ferguson type in the midfield.


“Scottie’s gonnae get ye”


Hard as nails!


I`d add Paul Smith to the list.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 13:04

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JTH123, Mon 12 Feb 12:40

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LochgellyAlbert, Mon 12 Feb 11:24

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Raymie the Legend, Mon 12 Feb 09:41

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LochgellyAlbert, Mon 12 Feb 09:24

Need a Jim Scott, Ray Farningham, Ian Ferguson type in the midfield.


“Scottie’s gonnae get ye”


Hard as nails!


I`d add Paul Smith to the list.


Good shout!
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: JimDAFC  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 14:24

You would think that even an experienced grisly hard tackling player from the junior ranks would do a better job than we have at the present time, and who knows he might be offered a contract at the end of the season if he does a good job. And bye the way although Airdrie did get well beaten in the end by Hearts I found myself wishing the pars could play more like them. They may pass it about at the back but unlike us they manage to get it up to their forwards more often than not and there is always someone in a wide position to receive the ball.

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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 14:29

At least Airdrie turned up and didn,t play like Sunday leaguers

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 14:38

Wonder what`s causing the delay ! We apparently had someone almost signed Sat Morning ,you would think it would be done and dusted by now if, infact, it`s still happening .
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 14:43

Looking more recently, we could do with a Calum Morris for that defence and an Andy Geggan for the midfield. Players who played with pride for the club and weren`t scared to get in about it and put their body on the line.

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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 15:04

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LochgellyAlbert, Mon 12 Feb 13:04

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JTH123, Mon 12 Feb 12:40

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LochgellyAlbert, Mon 12 Feb 11:24

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Raymie the Legend, Mon 12 Feb 09:41

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LochgellyAlbert, Mon 12 Feb 09:24

Need a Jim Scott, Ray Farningham, Ian Ferguson type in the midfield.


“Scottie’s gonnae get ye”


Hard as nails!


I`d add Paul Smith to the list.


Good shout!


Played with Smudger for a wee while. A character, as well. Good lad




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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 15:04

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Rigger Al, Mon 12 Feb 14:38

Wonder what`s causing the delay ! We apparently had someone almost signed Sat Morning ,you would think it would be done and dusted by now if, infact, it`s still happening .


Thats cause there isnt anyone coming 😂
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 15:07

If Kane was the guy close to signing on Saturday, perhaps QP have come in with a counter offer over the weekend ?




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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 16:04

I heard he was about to sign but turned us down as he was concerned about their already being a Kane at the club. Big concern about it being too confusing and was a risk he`d be called "Surname Kane".
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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 17:45

Saturday will come and nothing will have changed.

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Mon 12 Feb 18:11

If he lives near perth surely we’re the better option?

Are we absolutely sure we want to continue signing only experienced players that mcpake or Mackay have worked with before, it’s not proved successful so far and it’s very limiting.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 06:39

Perth to Glasgow is hardly a trek through the rainforest!

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Topic Originator: Ianoappar  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 10:32

Aye but are McPake and CEO singing from the same hymn sheet?

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Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 12:06

in the Courier article on Kane signing

"Dunfermline are still in the market for another experienced loan signing this month, thought to be a defender."

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Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 13:26

I’d really like to see a defender and a midfielder in this week. Saturday is a crucial game, we haemorrhage goals and don’t create anywhere near enough chances.

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Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 13:47

Midfield HAS to be priority surely?
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 13:54

Defender needed more urgently, imo.

Injured midfield players due back before our centre backs

Would allow Hamilton to play in midfield and provide some protection, meantime




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Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 14:09

We just signed two defenders. If they`re both murder, that`s McPake`s fault

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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 15:43

A decent defender would allow , Hamilton / Otto to move forward, here,s hoping

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 16:06

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EastEndTales, Tue 13 Feb 14:09

We just signed two defenders. If they`re both murder, that`s McPake`s fault


Trying too hard, mate. 🙄



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Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 16:08

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GG Riva, Tue 13 Feb 16:06

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EastEndTales, Tue 13 Feb 14:09

We just signed two defenders. If they`re both murder, that`s McPake`s fault


Trying too hard, mate. 🙄


I`m not though. We signed 2 defenders and they`ve both looked rough. Don`t give me Walcott at Tannadice, his showing against Morton was down there with the worst ever.

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Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 17:23

EastEndTales wrote:

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GG Riva, Tue 13 Feb 16:06
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EastEndTales, Tue 13 Feb 14:09
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> We just signed two defenders. If they`re both murder, that`s
> McPake`s fault

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> Trying too hard, mate. 🙄

>
> I`m not though. We signed 2 defenders and they`ve both looked
> rough. Don`t give me Walcott at Tannadice, his showing against
> Morton was down there with the worst ever.
>
>


But our Scouting team checked him out on FM24 - his stats are good!!

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Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 17:25

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EastEndTales, Tue 13 Feb 16:08

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GG Riva, Tue 13 Feb 16:06

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EastEndTales, Tue 13 Feb 14:09

We just signed two defenders. If they`re both murder, that`s McPake`s fault


Trying too hard, mate. 🙄


I`m not though. We signed 2 defenders and they`ve both looked rough. Don`t give me Walcott at Tannadice, his showing against Morton was down there with the worst ever.


He didn’t even play against Morton.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 17:27

Aye, hard to argue against the Cardiff loanees looking bad, especially if it turns out we are after/bring in another centre back.

Problem with Hamilton and Otoo in the middle is where does the creativity come from? Obviously if Todd was available he has the energy and the eye for a goal but without him we`re back to relying on the full backs getting crosses in - which would he good for Kane if we can get decent deliveries in - or thr forwards trying to engineer a chance for themselves. Summers, Moffat, Chalmers, Allan - they`ve all had assists or secondary assists this season but can we rely on them go create three, four, five chances a game? Doubtful IMO.

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Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 18:04

We are going to be building a team around fisher otoo krh Todd and McCann.

Being honest they are good starting blocks for any manager to build a team around, hopefully it all works out
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 18:11

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EastEndTales, Tue 13 Feb 16:08

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GG Riva, Tue 13 Feb 16:06

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EastEndTales, Tue 13 Feb 14:09

We just signed two defenders. If they`re both murder, that`s McPake`s fault


Trying too hard, mate. 🙄


I`m not though. We signed 2 defenders and they`ve both looked rough. Don`t give me Walcott at Tannadice, his showing against Morton was down there with the worst ever.


OK, I`ll bite again. Just put yourself in McPake`s shoes for a minute. Bene`s out, Breen`s out, Fisher`s out. He goes to the BoD and tells them he desperately needs some central defenders.....

So they ask him if he wants experienced defenders or a couple of teenagers with no first team experience to speak of on loan......

And McPake says "Yea, just get me those kids. Give me 10 mins before the game and I`ll teach them everything I know about how to play in central defence....

Sounds pretty plausible to me.... 🤔



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Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 18:12

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dd23, Tue 13 Feb 17:25

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EastEndTales, Tue 13 Feb 16:08

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GG Riva, Tue 13 Feb 16:06

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EastEndTales, Tue 13 Feb 14:09

We just signed two defenders. If they`re both murder, that`s McPake`s fault


Trying too hard, mate. 🙄


I`m not though. We signed 2 defenders and they`ve both looked rough. Don`t give me Walcott at Tannadice, his showing against Morton was down there with the worst ever.


He didn’t even play against Morton.


Who didn`t?

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Topic Originator: gthyde  
Date:   Tue 13 Feb 18:21

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dd23, Tue 13 Feb 17:25

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EastEndTales, Tue 13 Feb 16:08

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GG Riva, Tue 13 Feb 16:06

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EastEndTales, Tue 13 Feb 14:09

We just signed two defenders. If they`re both murder, that`s McPake`s fault


Trying too hard, mate. 🙄


I`m not though. We signed 2 defenders and they`ve both looked rough. Don`t give me Walcott at Tannadice, his showing against Morton was down there with the worst ever.


He didn’t even play against Morton.


He played against Morton. Not against QP though
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Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 14:06

"We`re awaiting a wee bit information but it`s not looking great for Craig at the minute. It may be necessary to go out and get another experienced striker in as well.

"The board went out and we got Chris in, which helps. We would rather have Chris and Craig, both of them available, but we`re still trying to get to the bottom of Craig`s injury"

quote from McPake in the Press.

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Topic Originator: LEGEND85  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 15:10

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GJS93, Wed 14 Feb 14:06

"We`re awaiting a wee bit information but it`s not looking great for Craig at the minute. It may be necessary to go out and get another experienced striker in as well.

"The board went out and we got Chris in, which helps. We would rather have Chris and Craig, both of them available, but we`re still trying to get to the bottom of Craig`s injury"

quote from McPake in the Press.


Does that mean another experienced striker as well as kane
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Topic Originator: livipar2  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 16:27

Stevie May incoming…..

Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 16:50

We’re becoming retirement home for Dundee and st Johnstone players!

Just one let’s see a player brought in for his ability and not because mcpake or Mackay know them.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 16:55

Quote:

Berkey, Wed 14 Feb 16:50

We’re becoming retirement home for Dundee and st Johnstone players!

Just one let’s see a player brought in for his ability and not because mcpake or Mackay know them.


Berkey, do you not think that it might be advantageous for a manager to sign a player whose ability and character he is familiar with, or would you rather he went for a pig in a poke?

See how well it worked out for player and manager, when Peter Grant signed Paul Watson, for example.



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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 17:00

I don’t think Wighton will be back this season.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 17:34

There defo an advantage to knowing a player but it’s very limiting being so dependant on Dundee and st Johnstone.

They knew o’hallaran and he’s had a poor season, so maybe going for a good player that they don’t know has the same odds of being good for us?

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Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 17:49

No he hasn`t.

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Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 18:05

Quote:

Berkey, Wed 14 Feb 16:50

We’re becoming retirement home for Dundee and st Johnstone players!

Just one let’s see a player brought in for his ability and not because mcpake or Mackay know them.


Like Hosler or Otoo?
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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 18:11

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Berkey, Wed 14 Feb 17:34

There defo an advantage to knowing a player but it’s very limiting being so dependant on Dundee and st Johnstone.

They knew o’hallaran and he’s had a poor season, so maybe going for a good player that they don’t know has the same odds of being good for us?


He hasn`t. That is just your unqualified but entitled opinion.

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 18:23

Experienced players dd23.

Eh? You think o’hallaran has had a good season?

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Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 18:26

I think he showed enough on Saturday to give him another chance playing further forward. He seems more effective there than in other games, although necessity may have caused that.
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 19:12

I think MOH was one of our better players in our last 2 games.

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Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 19:21

I`m with Berkey on this one. Considering the level he has played at, MOH has been a big disappointment.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 19:23

How many goals and assists has Ohalloran had ?
In fact how many games has he played ?

He`s maybe been one of our better players last couple of weeks, but to say he`s had a good season is a bit steep.

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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 19:48

O`halleron has been played out of position all season. He is not and never will be a wing back
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Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 20:21

O`halloran would get a game for any other club in the championship,

Like most of our first team funny enough.

Which is why I`m starting to think the management might be the issue,

Last year was full time vs part time so a top 2 finish was the least we should achieve.

Hopefully I`m wrong and this is just a blip.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 20:55

I think O`halloran has played well recently
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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 21:35

There has been an improvement in MOH in the past few games , perhaps he has been slow getting back to full fitness , but he is suffering like the rest of the front line with a lack of support , how many times do we go forward and yet we have
nobody in the box.

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 21:38

Maybe that’s the point, mcpake and Mackay signed a pal from st Johnstone who clearly doesn’t fit into the rigid formation they always play so has struggled to contribute anything of note all season.

Or he’s just lost a yard of pace and that was a big part of his game.

Either way he’s been a massive let down. He should have stood out at this level in a team with very little creativity or pace in it.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: Kintos  
Date:   Wed 14 Feb 23:21

Got to agree with Berkey on this last point. Overall, very poor, regardless of being played out of position.

If we even got half the player that was on show in the first Morton game on a semi regular basis (acknowledge he was in a more advanced role that day), he would definitely be considered as having had a successful tenure with us. Unfortunately, more often than not, doesn`t even get pass marks.
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Topic Originator: par-91  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 09:01

Think a lot of the judgements of MOH are quite harsh here. Wing backs are going to struggle to be effective if the midfield/attacking players aren’t performing. There’s times he’s gone past a couple of men, lifted his head and there’s been nobody in the box and no midfielders moving to give him an option. Josh Edwards gets rave reviews, but I honestly don’t think he’s been better than MOH when he has played, because they’re both suffering from the same problem - lack of support from teammates.

We really need to add an experienced defender, to allow Hamilton/Otoo to return to midfield.
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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 12:37

You could single out any player for criticism just now with one or 2 exceptions. My own expectations of MOH were high for this season as a Premier League player thats dropped down a level. I feel Edwards done better and he doesn`t have that level of experience so in my mind MOH has disappointed.
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Topic Originator: DRreturns  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 14:16

Imagine managers signing players that have done well for them in the past....
at this level, signing your mates gets you the sack! No way is it mates signing!

We`ve signed players from Cardiff & Blackpool as well. 4 clubs used for loan signings, 2 in Scotland & 2 in England.

People calling for signings that aren`t from Dundee or St Johnston are certainly not the sharpest tools in the box.

I’m here to take over!!
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Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 14:18

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Berkey, Wed 14 Feb 16:50

We’re becoming retirement home for Dundee and st Johnstone players!

Just one let’s see a player brought in for his ability and not because mcpake or Mackay know them.


Berkey, do you not think that it might be advantageous for a manager to sign a player whose ability and character he is familiar with, or would you rather he went for a pig in a poke?

See how well it worked out for player and manager, when Peter Grant signed Paul Watson, for example.


Isn`t this exactly why clubs employ scouts?
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Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 14:22

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DRreturns, Thu 15 Feb 14:16

Imagine managers signing players that have done well for them in the past....
at this level, signing your mates gets you the sack! No way is it mates signing!

We`ve signed players from Cardiff & Blackpool as well. 4 clubs used for loan signings, 2 in Scotland & 2 in England.

People calling for signings that aren`t from Dundee or St Johnston are certainly not the sharpest tools in the box.


So we sign crap from Angus and crap from down south. Excellent plan Mr McPake
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 14:50

So if Dundee or SJ make available someone who fits the profile of a player McPake thinks will help us get through this crisis he shouldn`t sign him because we`ve had enough players from these sources?
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 16:10

"Isn`t this exactly why clubs employ scouts?"

I`ve no idea how extensive our scouting network is, Andrew, but posters have remarked on this forum that our chief scout is normally in the dugout on match days.....


"So we sign crap from Angus and crap from down south. Excellent plan Mr McPake."

I can`t believe you think the manager would not consider any player from outwith these regions if he was

(a) good enough,
(b) wanted to come to the Pars,
(c) we could afford his wages and
(d) his club was prepared to release him.

Perhaps you`re under the impression that the manager is handed a pot of money (OK, a budget) and told he can spend it anyway he likes, with no input from the Board whatsoever?



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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 16:36

Wee eck the insinuation here is that we’re only interested in signing experienced players from Dundee and at Johnstone and as these players keep opting for bigger clubs, we then don’t bring any experienced players in (like in Jan). Maybe just maybe we can cast the net a little bit wider to find other players that can help us when none are available from Perth or Dundee.

Mcpake has shown he’ll take young loans from anywhere regardless of ability and personality why doesn’t he trust experienced players that he doesn’t know personally?

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 16:52

As has been pointed out before, Berkey, he tried to sign Brophy from Ross County and there was also mention of Tommy Smith, an experienced pro and NZ international from MK Dons. How do you or anyone else know he hasn`t tried to sign other players that didn`t make the media?

You are so set in your own theories that you don`t actually acknowledge any information that contradicts them.

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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 17:23

We can make 3 more loan signings, as long as they haven`t played for another club and play in the Scottish Premiership. Really think we need to get a midfielder and another centre half in. Going in to games with a midfield of Allan and Chalmers is...just plain dire.

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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 17:27

Brophy setup their goal last night so must be back in the new managers plans.

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 18:41

Not sure how realistic those signings actually were wee eck, one hasn’t moved and the other has moved half way around the world so it’s not like they have signed for our rivals…

Mcpake talked about 2 signings this week?

While I’m sure Kane is an improvement on our other strikers I’m pretty sure we’re all hoping for a central midfielder or defender before Saturday.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 18:50

You`re at it again. First you criticise the manager for not casting the net wider, now you`re saying the fact they didn`t sign means they weren`t realistic targets!

Yes, he said he hoped to sign a defender and, now that Wighton`s out for the season, he`s hoping to sign another experienced striker. Just because they haven`t happened doesn`t mean he`s not trying.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 18:52

I know what I`m hoping.....

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 19:42

Reading Berkeys posts is actually really becoming very, very tiresome. It`s the constant flow of negativity. It`s like he goes looking for it, if he found a silver lining, he`d be hunting for the cloud, and he wouldn`t be happy till he found it. God knows how someone can function like that.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 22:14

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red-star-par, Thu 15 Feb 19:42

Reading Berkeys posts is actually really becoming very, very tiresome. It`s the constant flow of negativity. It`s like he goes looking for it, if he found a silver lining, he`d be hunting for the cloud, and he wouldn`t be happy till he found it. God knows how someone can function like that.


What silver linings are there, as we approach a game versus bottom of the league with a dodgy defence , almost non existent midfield and strikers not even making chances.

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Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 22:34

Quote:

red-star-par, Thu 15 Feb 19:42

Reading Berkeys posts is actually really becoming very, very tiresome. It`s the constant flow of negativity. It`s like he goes looking for it, if he found a silver lining, he`d be hunting for the cloud, and he wouldn`t be happy till he found it. God knows how someone can function like that.


Delusional hope is just as bad
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Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Thu 15 Feb 22:55

I don`t doubt for a moment that if we lose on Saturday, there will be multiple calls for McPake to go. And I would support that move. On the other hand, if we win and we can see seeds of recovery, then we have to keep faith with our management team.

I don`t know about you guys, but the key things I will be looking for are: more cohesion and purpose between defence, midfield, and the forwards line; a change in formation is a must - we cannot continue to telegraph our intentions to the opposition and; perhaps most important, a sense that there is a positive spirit in the team.

A draw or a defeat will be unacceptable. It must be a win against Arbroath.

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 06:47

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saltonsgonagetu, Thu 15 Feb 22:14

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red-star-par, Thu 15 Feb 19:42

Reading Berkeys posts is actually really becoming very, very tiresome. It`s the constant flow of negativity. It`s like he goes looking for it, if he found a silver lining, he`d be hunting for the cloud, and he wouldn`t be happy till he found it. God knows how someone can function like that.


What silver linings are there, as we approach a game versus bottom of the league with a dodgy defence , almost non existent midfield and strikers not even making chances.


"If you think you can win, you might.
If you think you will lose, you`ve lost....."

I`m glad Berkey and a few others aren`t giving the motivational pre-match team talk tomorrow. 🙂

"Delusional hope is just as bad"

Is thinking you have a decent chance of beating the bottom team at home, delusional?
Absolutely no point in the players going out thinking they`re likely to lose. I wonder what Jim Leishman would make of Berkey & Co.

Sorry, Berkey, but I think your natural pessimism has infected a number of other posters on here. Luckily, I`ve been vaccinated against it. 😉



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Topic Originator: AveragePar  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 08:20

Dunfermline`s loan deal with Lee Ashcroft is agreed in principle.

It comes down to the former #COYP defender to decide whether he wants to rejoin his former club and manager or not.

Move has to be approved by the end of the month, and #DAFC has three loan spots available.

From Michael wood on twitter

Don’t know wether to take this with a pinch of salt or not
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Topic Originator: adj27  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 08:50

Looks like Josh McPake is going back to Queen’s Park

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 08:51

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AveragePar, Fri 16 Feb 08:20

Dunfermline`s loan deal with Lee Ashcroft is agreed in principle.

It comes down to the former #COYP defender to decide whether he wants to rejoin his former club and manager or not.

Move has to be approved by the end of the month, and #DAFC has three loan spots available.

From Michael wood on twitter

Don’t know wether to take this with a pinch of salt or not


Forgive my ignorance, but who is Michael Wood? Does he have a record of reliability?



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Topic Originator: rikaka  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 08:58

Ashcroft would be such a strong addition right now. 🙏
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Topic Originator: AveragePar  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 09:05

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GG Riva, Fri 16 Feb 08:51

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AveragePar, Fri 16 Feb 08:20

Dunfermline`s loan deal with Lee Ashcroft is agreed in principle.

It comes down to the former #COYP defender to decide whether he wants to rejoin his former club and manager or not.

Move has to be approved by the end of the month, and #DAFC has three loan spots available.

From Michael wood on twitter

Don’t know wether to take this with a pinch of salt or not


Forgive my ignorance, but who is Michael Wood? Does he have a record of reliability?


Editor in chief for that’s never 10 yards so obviously a bias towards us but don’t know how reliable the info is.

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Topic Originator: Athletico  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 09:05

Michael Wood is a freelance journalist/podcaster. Also a Pars fan.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 09:23

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Athletico, Fri 16 Feb 09:05

Michael Wood is a freelance journalist/podcaster. Also a Pars fan.


So probably bollocks then

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 09:30

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da_no_1, Fri 16 Feb 09:23

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Athletico, Fri 16 Feb 09:05

Michael Wood is a freelance journalist/podcaster. Also a Pars fan.


So probably bollocks then


Let`s wait and see, da_no_1. Hope springs eternal. 🙂



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Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 10:00

Would definitely take him. No guarantee that Bene/Breen/Fisher will come back and not have further issues as has already happened before.
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Topic Originator: rikaka  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 10:08

Ashcroft is better than breen anyway.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 10:18

Fingers crossed ..

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Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 10:18

Be a cracking signing if it happens.

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 10:28

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AveragePar, Fri 16 Feb 08:20

Dunfermline`s loan deal with Lee Ashcroft is agreed in principle.

It comes down to the former #COYP defender to decide whether he wants to rejoin his former club and manager or not.

Move has to be approved by the end of the month, and #DAFC has three loan spots available.

From Michael wood on twitter

Don’t know wether to take this with a pinch of salt or not


I posted your info on the EEB and a poster who knows MW well says he`s a good guy and usually spot on with his info. 🙂

And if he`s a Pars fan, why would he deliberately put out duff info regarding our club?



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Topic Originator: adj27  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 10:55

Josh Hinds signs for Queen’s Park not Josh McPake 😩

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Topic Originator: AveragePar  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 11:12

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GG Riva, Fri 16 Feb 10:28

Quote:

AveragePar, Fri 16 Feb 08:20

Dunfermline`s loan deal with Lee Ashcroft is agreed in principle.

It comes down to the former #COYP defender to decide whether he wants to rejoin his former club and manager or not.

Move has to be approved by the end of the month, and #DAFC has three loan spots available.

From Michael wood on twitter

Don’t know wether to take this with a pinch of salt or not


I posted your info on the EEB and a poster who knows MW well says he`s a good guy and usually spot on with his info. 🙂

And if he`s a Pars fan, why would he deliberately put out duff info regarding our club?


Hopefully he’ll be in the door then
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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 11:41

Welcome him with open arms , good experienced defender who poses a goal threat as well , here,s hoping

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Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 12:38

Ashcroft would be a brilliant signing, as a lot said throughout January, would definitely improve us.
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 17:28

Would be a great signing. What the deadline for him to make the squad tomorrow? Could really do with him and he’ll walk right into the team.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: AveragePar  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 17:50

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Berkey, Fri 16 Feb 17:28

Would be a great signing. What the deadline for him to make the squad tomorrow? Could really do with him and he’ll walk right into the team.


Might be signed already before the squad deadline for tomorrow and just not announced
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 17:53

That would be a welcome surprise.

Ep.14 of East End Tales is out now- The Draft

https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/14182410
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 18:06

If this was imminent isn`t it likely the Courier/Dunf Press would be on to it?

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Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 18:33

Come on Ashy, I`ll loan you my biro, just get pen to paper.

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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 18:34

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wee eck, Fri 16 Feb 18:06

If this was imminent isn`t it likely the Courier/Dunf Press would be on to it?


Wee eck , totally drenched in negativity......😄😄
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 18:40

I`ve been waiting for that pen appearing all day, alwaysaPar!

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Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 18:41

alwaysaPar wrote:

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wee eck, Fri 16 Feb 18:06
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> If this was imminent isn`t it likely the Courier/Dunf Press
> would be on to it?

>
> Wee eck , totally drenched in negativity......😄😄

Berkey mark 2, I don`t believe it.

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Topic Originator: KAPP-Par  
Date:   Fri 16 Feb 19:43

Unfortunately can’t see Ashcroft coming to us. Hopefully am wrong though.
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 07:49

Ah wouldn’t we have announced by now or has there been a hitch? big lift if we can get him and get him in the team today!

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 07:56

You`d like to think if it was done they`d have announced it last night to sell a few more tickets for today`s game.

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 13:52

Ashcroft not in the Dundee squad for today

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 18:35

Thin margins, we might have won 1-0 today if he was in the team….

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 19:03

Strangely, no one asked the manager about possible signings in the post-match media interview. He said he hoped to have two back from injury next week, Jakubiak and Todd presumably.

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Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 19:15

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wee eck, Sat 17 Feb 19:03

Strangely, no one asked the manager about possible signings in the post-match media interview. He said he hoped to have two back from injury next week, Jakubiak and Todd presumably.


Really? That`d be a huge bonus but they`ll be without match sharpness for a bit.

Ep.14 of East End Tales is out now- The Draft

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 19:19

I’m not sure jak is going to make any difference now we have Kane tbh.

Todd will surely take a good 4-6 games to get close to match fit. KRH the same.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 19:22

Ashcroft and a ball winning midfielder would go a long way to helping the cause

G.B
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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 19:26

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Berkey, Sat 17 Feb 19:19

I’m not sure jak is going to make any difference now we have Kane tbh.

Todd will surely take a good 4-6 games to get close to match fit. KRH the same.


Yes agree. It`s getting late on in the season. Nobody is going to come in at this stage and instantly turn it around. I don`t think Jak and MoH are particularly effective in my opinion. Notable that the goal came from a defender. We need to stop leaking goals with a solid defence so that the midfield can confidently get into forward positions and hopefully start to score goals.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 19:31

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Berkey, Sat 17 Feb 19:19

I’m not sure jak is going to make any difference now we have Kane tbh.

Todd will surely take a good 4-6 games to get close to match fit. KRH the same.


Jak in for McCann
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Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 19:43

Ashcroft will be a pars player by Tuesday at the earliest the manager met him on Thursday evening Dundee are happy for him to come to us on loan and Ashcroft himself is itching to come to us on loan but surprise surprise the only two guys who have the authority to sign it off were nowhere to be seen yesterday hence why it’s not went through yet no doubt I’ll be shot down in flames for this but hey ho not really bothered to be honest the person I got the info from is 100% genuine so all that’s left to say is welcome back to the pars Lee

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 20:23

Were these two guys both from the Pars or one from each side? And why should it take until Tuesday to finalise it? We have a game on Friday!
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 20:30

I’m sick to the back teeth of hearing McPake saying we need a new player or 2 yet seeing our Chief Scout on the bench every week scouting our own team! He should be out there identifying players and speaking to the right folk to see if they’d be interested in coming!

To me he’s a wasted wage and every bit a part of the problem!

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 20:44

In this window the sort of experienced players who would be suitable probably won`t be playing and the manager will be aware of their capabilities anyway.
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Topic Originator: par-91  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 20:52

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ParfectXI, Sat 17 Feb 20:30

I’m sick to the back teeth of hearing McPake saying we need a new player or 2 yet seeing our Chief Scout on the bench every week scouting our own team! He should be out there identifying players and speaking to the right folk to see if they’d be interested in coming!

To me he’s a wasted wage and every bit a part of the problem!


100% agree with this. I find it incredible that the investors identified the goalkeeping coach being a first team player as an issue, but don’t see an issue with our Chief Scout sitting on our bench every week. He can’t be doing his job as Chief Scout as effectively as possible, within this setup.
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Topic Originator: rikaka  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 21:09

Who is the chief scout?
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Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 21:15

fulfilling his ""First Team Operations Co-Ordination" duties....

trying to justify that title might be a bit of a stretch never mind the chief scout title, but being in the dugout or technical area isnt new, hes been doing it for 2 and a half seasons now apart from a couple of games under Hughes.

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 21:27

"Who is the chief scout?"

It`s bizarre - a few people were having digs about this very topic before and I asked the same question as I didn`t know, but it got ignored then too. It`s like there`s some kind of secret sect and that the name of the Chief Scout is some kind of Shibboleth.

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Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 21:32

Garry Montignani

https://dafc.co.uk/management-and-staff/

going back to the original Ashcroft "rumour", same person put this on after it yesterday lunchtime

Michael Wood
@MichaelWood_SJ
Evidently, with Ashcroft`s CV, it means #DAFC is not the only club interested in recruiting the two-time PFA Scotland Championship Team of the Year member.

However, he could still stay at Dens Park and compete with Lamie and Portales, who are returning to full fitness.

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 22:32

Did Garry go and see the Cardiff boys play? I doubt it.

Mcpake only signs experienced players he knows, not sure what the point is in Gary unless he’s scouting these random young loans before we bring them in.

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 17 Feb 22:41

If that true back oh the net then it’s just another example of how we’re being run. Reeks of amateur hour.

We should have pulled out all the stops to get him in during the week.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 18 Feb 06:56

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rikaka, Sat 17 Feb 21:09

Who is the chief scout?[/quot

He is the boy who lays the ball off to the players in the warm up. Sadly I'm not joking.

c'mon the pars

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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 18 Feb 08:39

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GJS93, Sat 17 Feb 21:32

Garry Montignani

https://dafc.co.uk/management-and-staff/

going back to the original Ashcroft "rumour", same person put this on after it yesterday lunchtime

Michael Wood
@MichaelWood_SJ
Evidently, with Ashcroft`s CV, it means #DAFC is not the only club interested in recruiting the two-time PFA Scotland Championship Team of the Year member.

However, he could still stay at Dens Park and compete with Lamie and Portales, who are returning to full fitness.

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This is the lad that takes the videos of the crowd etc after a win to get a video for social medias 😂😂 thats really bad that our chief scouts sat in our dugout every Sat afternoon! Surely its Dave Honeymans job to analyse our players performances?
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Topic Originator: back oh the net  
Date:   Sun 18 Feb 17:00

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Berkey, Sat 17 Feb 22:41

If that true back oh the net then it’s just another example of how we’re being run. Reeks of amateur hour.

We should have pulled out all the stops to get him in during the week.


Amateur hour😂 wait till you see the accounts then we will talk about amateur hour rumoured to be a 6 figure operating loss

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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 10:50

Any update on Ashcroft??
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 11:18

In 7 minutes time it`ll be exactly a week since the pen gif appeared on Twatter

Make it happen 🙏

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: par-91  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 14:50

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back oh the net, Sun 18 Feb 17:00

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Berkey, Sat 17 Feb 22:41

If that true back oh the net then it’s just another example of how we’re being run. Reeks of amateur hour.

We should have pulled out all the stops to get him in during the week.


Amateur hour😂 wait till you see the accounts then we will talk about amateur hour rumoured to be a 6 figure operating loss


6 figures, as in around £100k? I would have expected significantly worse.
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 14:57

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par-91, Tue 20 Feb 14:50

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back oh the net, Sun 18 Feb 17:00

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Berkey, Sat 17 Feb 22:41

If that true back oh the net then it’s just another example of how we’re being run. Reeks of amateur hour.

We should have pulled out all the stops to get him in during the week.


Amateur hour😂 wait till you see the accounts then we will talk about amateur hour rumoured to be a 6 figure operating loss


6 figures, as in around £100k? I would have expected significantly worse.


Or £999,999?

Regardless, just the usual gossip.
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Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 15:16

Could we not save a 6 figured sum by getting rid of the CEO
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 15:36

If true, then it must be a manageable loss if we turned down a 6 figure bid for Josh.

http://www.agiftfor.net

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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 15:55

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Par, Tue 20 Feb 15:16

Could we not save a 6 figured sum by getting rid of the CEO


We had a guy doing that job voluntarily.
The fans drove him out.

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 17:36

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PARrot, Tue 20 Feb 15:55

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Par, Tue 20 Feb 15:16

Could we not save a 6 figured sum by getting rid of the CEO


We had a guy doing that job voluntarily.
The fans drove him out.


The abuse was uncalled-for but he did hire Peter Grant and John Hughes.

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 17:38

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cammypar 1995, Tue 20 Feb 17:36

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PARrot, Tue 20 Feb 15:55

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Par, Tue 20 Feb 15:16

Could we not save a 6 figured sum by getting rid of the CEO


We had a guy doing that job voluntarily.
The fans drove him out.


The abuse was uncalled-for but he did hire Peter Grant and John Hughes.


The first five words are correct
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 17:57

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cammypar 1995, Tue 20 Feb 17:36

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PARrot, Tue 20 Feb 15:55

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Par, Tue 20 Feb 15:16

Could we not save a 6 figured sum by getting rid of the CEO


We had a guy doing that job voluntarily.
The fans drove him out.


The abuse was uncalled-for but he did hire Peter Grant and John Hughes.


So did Thomas Meggle
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 18:26

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cammypar 1995, Tue 20 Feb 17:36

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PARrot, Tue 20 Feb 15:55

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Par, Tue 20 Feb 15:16

Could we not save a 6 figured sum by getting rid of the CEO


We had a guy doing that job voluntarily.
The fans drove him out.


The abuse was uncalled-for but he did hire Peter Grant and John Hughes.


Ross McArthur was not involved in the decision to appoint John Hughes, but guilty as charged re Peter Grant.


back oh the net, Sun 18 Feb 17:00~#~

Amateur hour😂 wait till you see the accounts then we will talk about amateur hour rumoured to be a 6 figure operating loss.

You may have been thinking about the number of zeroes, BOTN. I was at the last supporters meeting in which our CEO said we`d made substantial losses in answer to a question from the floor. He didn`t give an exact figure, but I formed the impression that it was much more than £100k.



Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 19:00

Rumoured to be a lot more, but wait till the facts are published.

What clubs are making a profit, Dundee Utd have huge losses, even despite their parachute payments.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 19:53

So the Kane signing was just to cover wighton being out, and no sign of this other player that was being mentioned. Typical

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Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:02

The courier reporting Raith Rovers are signing Ashcroft
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:04

Well he is only going one place if that is the case. A relegation fight or a championship fight?
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:11

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elvis_lives, Tue 20 Feb 20:04

Well he is only going one place if that is the case. A relegation fight or a championship fight?


Ashcroft singed today for Raith. Trained with them at Michael Woods today
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Topic Originator: par-91  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:13

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king lad, Tue 20 Feb 20:02

The courier reporting Raith Rovers are signing Ashcroft


A club actually signing players that they need? That’ll never catch on.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:17

That’s just so disappointing on many levels. Worrying times that we can’t seem to get our first targets over the line ? So what is plan B?




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Topic Originator: LEGEND85  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:22

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Raymie the Legend, Tue 20 Feb 20:17

That’s just so disappointing on many levels. Worrying times that we can’t seem to get our first targets over the line ? So what is plan B?


Someone like Paul Hanlon
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Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:29

Some 17 year old from Morecombe or Dorking more likely.
We are absolutely useless just now at practically everything. Can’t really blame Ashcroft, potential championship or relegation battle. If he watched both teams over the weekend not exactly a difficult decision.

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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:34

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LEGEND85, Tue 20 Feb 20:22

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Raymie the Legend, Tue 20 Feb 20:17

That’s just so disappointing on many levels. Worrying times that we can’t seem to get our first targets over the line ? So what is plan B?


Someone like Paul Hanlon


Would be good




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Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:36

Seems players aren’t exactly buying into this 7 year plan

Effe
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:44

I`d have been shocked if he`d signed for us given he was scoring for Dundee a few weeks ago and his been in their team up until Saturday.

Not sure Raith need him so think they`re just taking the p1ss now.

Hoping there`s others lined up

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:45

Oh well, we missed out on Rudden and ended up with Kane. Every cloud etc.....
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:46

Rovers are going for it, and are getting business done. We are going nowhere fast, an experienced CB might be the difference between staying up and relegation. Its clear we just can’t compete with top teams in the division.
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Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:46

Absolutely embarrassing yet again on our part, if true. Do the board not worry about fans no longer attending games and the possibility of relegation if we don’t pull our fingers out and strengthen in areas that are screaming for quality? We can bring three more players in on loan from Scotland and the way it’s looking at the moment, we need to use all three and to bolster the defence and midfield. You would think conceding 9 goals in 3 at home would push us into bringing in players quicker but as usual we’re dragging our heels.

If we don’t add anyone at the back for Friday, Brian Graham will have a field day against Walcott and Benjamin.

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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:51

McPake wanted experience in and got 2 x 20+ year olds???and Kane(who will be a good player)
How many players don’t want to sign for us?
What are Cook and Meggle up to as we need Ashcroft in NOW but he might be going to the Rovers?? There is something major wrong at board level with Cook and the Germans…

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: The Boss  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:57

You have to wonder what is going on at the club. Could this be potential admin mark 2? At the moment this team is going down. Realistically can anyone see us winning any of our next three games?

I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 20:59

There is something not right imo with the management/boardroom imo at the moment as we should not be in this position! Again where is Mr Cook coming out and telling us what is going on?

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:03

"The 30-year-old was targeted by both Raith and Dunfermline and both have held talks with the former Kilmarnock player after meeting Dundee’s financial demands."

choice between a title contender or a relegation battle, tough one.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:04

If we`ve matched the terms and he chooses Raith I`m not sure the BOD can be blamed here.

Move on.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:04

This is actually becoming quite amusing.
What a shower of gossipy sweety wives.
You really can`t help yourselves.

Raging at recent results is fair enough, but honestly, have any of you ever thought about launching a career writing fiction? Some of you would make a fortune.
Incredible imaginations.

Ashcroft will remember the abuse they all got last time he was here. He was never likely to return when all that ugliness is once again raising its head.
Putting up with that or challenging for promotion. Jings how did we not get it over the line??????

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Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:11

This purely comes down to league position and is a no brainer for the player,

When it comes to money, we are obviously not competing financially, that could be foolish but it is impossible to tell at the moment.

One thing is for certain,

Mcpake has to keep us up, if he doesn`t the whole pack of cards could come crumbling down.

It is worrying but we all have to keep the faith,

A full season in the championship next year with Fisher, Otoo, Todd, Breen,Edwards, Comrie, KRH, Bene and McCann all playing the majority of the season and we should comfortably be in the top half.

The management team have a great foundation to work with.....but staying up is imperative.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:11

I’m going to predict we never offered Ashcroft the same as Raith to come to us!
I would have offered him more than Raith as we need him more than them🤷

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:14

As has been pointed out on here before loan deals are the decision of the player if two clubs are prepared to cover his wages....but .net needs to find someone at the club they can blame. I`m sure we`ll have another target now.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:14

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da_no_1, Tue 20 Feb 21:04

If we`ve matched the terms and he chooses Raith I`m not sure the BOD can be blamed here.

Move on.


They could if what was said above is true - that he was ready to sign last week but there was no-one around to sign off on the spend. All conjecture mind but could be we didn`t move quick enough and Rovers have now come in.

Could equally easily be that he was always planning to talk to others.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:20

Why do people think that clubs offer more money to a player in a loan deal? 🤔 the player literally gets paid the same amount of money as before, its just paid by 2 different parties…
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Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:21

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Jeffery, Tue 20 Feb 21:14

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da_no_1, Tue 20 Feb 21:04

If we`ve matched the terms and he chooses Raith I`m not sure the BOD can be blamed here.

Move on.


They could if what was said above is true - that he was ready to sign last week but there was no-one around to sign off on the spend. All conjecture mind but could be we didn`t move quick enough and Rovers have now come in.

Could equally easily be that he was always planning to talk to others.


TBH,

No-one around the club on a Friday to sign off on an important transfer sounds like absolute nonsense. Impossible to believe.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:21

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Dave_1885, Tue 20 Feb 21:20

Why do people think that clubs offer more money to a player in a loan deal? 🤔 the player literally gets paid the same amount of money as before, its just paid by 2 different parties…


I know for a fact that`s not true

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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:24

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Dave_1885, Tue 20 Feb 21:20

Why do people think that clubs offer more money to a player in a loan deal? 🤔 the player literally gets paid the same amount of money as before, its just paid by 2 different parties…


Not true. Incentives can be offered to the player directly for league placing, wins etc (as per other squad members). Granted the clubs agree the structure of wage payments (either part or full) but to suggest it’s just a simple we all offer the same is wholly untrue.

Anybody that’s been in senior football will confirm that.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:27

Doesn`t it cause PAYE problems if two different employers pay his wages?
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:33

You should know that, wee eck?

In terms of money, Raith might be offering to pay more money for their share of wages, so Dundee would prefer that.
Also, there could well be a bonus payable to the player for promotion




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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:37

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Raymie the Legend, Tue 20 Feb 21:33

You should know that, wee eck?

In terms of money, Raith might be offering to pay more money for their share of wages, so Dundee would prefer that.
Also, there could well be a bonus payable to the player for promotion


Exactly. We could have offered a smaller bonus to make the playoffs or to stay up. Raith might have offered a league winners medals memedal and cash bonus
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Topic Originator: par_33  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:38

Enjoyed the post above talking about building a team around certain players next season and one being McCann, out of contract at the end of the season and imo hasn’t merited a contract extension. He can go for me. Need to realise the group of players from last season, a good chunk of them have kinda proved they aren’t up to the task in the Championship.

But first, let’s try stay up.



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Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:42

he signed a contract extension in October!

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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:42

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Alter Ego, Tue 20 Feb 21:11

I’m going to predict we never offered Ashcroft the same as Raith to come to us!
I would have offered him more than Raith as we need him more than them🤷


That`s awfy easy to say when it`s someone else`s money.

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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:43

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par_33, Tue 20 Feb 21:38

Enjoyed the post above talking about building a team around certain players next season and one being McCann, out of contract at the end of the season and imo hasn’t merited a contract extension. He can go for me. Need to realise the group of players from last season, a good chunk of them have kinda proved they aren’t up to the task in the Championship.

But first, let’s try stay up.


McCann singed a new contract
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Topic Originator: Neebur  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:53

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Ashcroft singed today for Raith. Trained with them at Michael Woods today



Raith dont train at Michael Woods

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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:54

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Neebur, Tue 20 Feb 21:53

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Ashcroft singed today for Raith. Trained with them at Michael Woods today



Raith dont train at Michael Woods


Correct but they had to today as amputee Scotland using Starks.

Next question?

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:54

I was just testing the water, Raymie! I would imagine the loanee club pays the agreed amount, including any bonus, to the lending club who would then pay the player. I suppose the lending club might get a share which wouldn`t be passed on to the player.
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Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 21:56

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par_33, Tue 20 Feb 21:38

Enjoyed the post above talking about building a team around certain players next season and one being McCann, out of contract at the end of the season and imo hasn’t merited a contract extension. He can go for me. Need to realise the group of players from last season, a good chunk of them have kinda proved they aren’t up to the task in the Championship.

But first, let’s try stay up.



The core of our squad are all championship level,

I`d go as far as saying if they were all released at the end of the season most would get picked up by championship clubs. Probably the Rovers lol.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 22:02

I’ll still say there is something not right going on at board level that needs addressed and I’m sure management are not being supported.. I’m sure McPake was asking for Ashcroft and we miss out again to Raith?? Shambles at the moment imo!

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 22:08

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Alter Ego, Tue 20 Feb 22:02

I’ll still say there is something not right going on at board level that needs addressed and I’m sure management are not being supported.. I’m sure McPake was asking for Ashcroft and we miss out again to Raith?? Shambles at the moment imo!


Perhaps McPake being a really quite inexperienced manager just can’t convince players over the line?
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 22:16

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JamesAndrew74, Tue 20 Feb 22:08

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Alter Ego, Tue 20 Feb 22:02

I’ll still say there is something not right going on at board level that needs addressed and I’m sure management are not being supported.. I’m sure McPake was asking for Ashcroft and we miss out again to Raith?? Shambles at the moment imo!


Perhaps McPake being a really quite inexperienced manager just can’t convince players over the line?


That`s usually where your Sporting Director comes in...
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 22:20

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jake89, Tue 20 Feb 22:16

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JamesAndrew74, Tue 20 Feb 22:08

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Alter Ego, Tue 20 Feb 22:02

I’ll still say there is something not right going on at board level that needs addressed and I’m sure management are not being supported.. I’m sure McPake was asking for Ashcroft and we miss out again to Raith?? Shambles at the moment imo!


Perhaps McPake being a really quite inexperienced manager just can’t convince players over the line?


That`s usually where your Sporting Director comes in...


It really isn’t. Players want to play for a manager….

We’ve not had a sporting director in 10 years but signed players, how did that happen?
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 22:28

Nope, McPake wants a player and it’s up to Cook/Meggle etc to do the deal.. Do you really think McPake wanted the 2 young lads signed that came in?? He wanted a bit of experience and got Kane but all others weren’t signed…

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 22:29

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JamesAndrew74, Tue 20 Feb 22:20

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jake89, Tue 20 Feb 22:16

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JamesAndrew74, Tue 20 Feb 22:08

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Alter Ego, Tue 20 Feb 22:02

I’ll still say there is something not right going on at board level that needs addressed and I’m sure management are not being supported.. I’m sure McPake was asking for Ashcroft and we miss out again to Raith?? Shambles at the moment imo!


Perhaps McPake being a really quite inexperienced manager just can’t convince players over the line?


That`s usually where your Sporting Director comes in...


It really isn’t. Players want to play for a manager….

We’ve not had a sporting director in 10 years but signed players, how did that happen?


Going to blow your mind. When you don`t have a role, the duties are usually fulfilled by other employees. When you do have someone to do those duties, guess what?

A sporting director should be involved in identifying and enticing players to sign.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 22:33

Everyone has his/her own theory and is convinced it`s the right one.
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Topic Originator: Neebur  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 22:34

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Correct but they had to today as amputee Scotland using Starks.

Next question?


Fair doos,stand corrected

Were you at the signing ceremony?

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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 22:52

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Neebur, Tue 20 Feb 22:34

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Correct but they had to today as amputee Scotland using Starks.

Next question?


Fair doos,stand corrected

Were you at the signing ceremony?


No but a certain ex young pars player now at Raith stays back to me and let the cat out the bag once it broke tonight
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Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 22:52

People just realising half the team that got us relegated last time round aren’t up to much again? Actually embarrassing some of the deals handed out to some of the current squad

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Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 22:57

Looking forward to their cringey no doubt dig laden announcement of this on their social media. Yawn.

He didn`t want to come. If that`s what it boils down to. So be it. We go with what we have and keep looking/getting players back.
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 20 Feb 23:01

Except he did want to come but got a better offer. As others have said, would you rather go for the club who have the potential to win the league, or the one scrapping at the bottom end?

The board is disappointing tbh. We lost some good guys and the replacements are almost all good, but I do wonder about what expertise some of them actually bring. As far as I`m aware, one of them ran his business into the ground!
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 06:24

Can`t blame the guy for choosing a team who are in a good position to get promoted over a team who are in a position to go down.

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: forever black and white  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 08:02

Still think the lack of signings is down to the development of the academy at Rosyth . Any cash we have has been invested there and not on the playing side. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and maybe we should have invested in the playing side first , ride along with that team for a few years in the championship then invested in the academy. Seems to me we have done things around the other way and it`s going to come back a bite us I think . Then again it`s a 4-6 year plan

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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 09:53

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forever black and white, Wed 21 Feb 08:02

Still think the lack of signings is down to the development of the academy at Rosyth . Any cash we have has been invested there and not on the playing side. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and maybe we should have invested in the playing side first , ride along with that team for a few years in the championship then invested in the academy. Seems to me we have done things around the other way and it`s going to come back a bite us I think . Then again it`s a 4-6 year plan


Agree with this , training complex will be a wonderful thing hopefully but should never be at the expense of the first team. If you can’t afford a squad that can comfortably live in the championship as a minimum then you can’t afford a training complex.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 10:01

I`m not one of these entitled fans. I don`t believe all this big club nonsense players peddle when they sign for us. We`re exactly where we deserve to be right now.

But i tell you what. I`m really scunnered with The Pars just now. Feel like the owners have lost any interest in making us competitive in the Championship while Rovers go from strength to strength. Falkirk romping League 1 as well while we seem to have settled for second best on and off the pitch. Just not good enough. As a fanbase we deserve better than this.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 10:09

We`ve won 15 of our last 69 Championship games - if that helps cheer you up any?

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 10:22

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DA-go Par Adonis, Wed 21 Feb 10:09

We`ve won 15 of our last 69 Championship games - if that helps cheer you up any?


No.....no it doesn`t 😃

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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 10:23

Plainly obvious this academy comes first to our German friends,been to a few meetings where they have been present and yet to hear them discuss big plans for the first team

G.B
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 10:35

I don`t see spending money on the academy and spending money on the squad as competing alternatives. In economic terms it`s like the difference between capital and current expenditure. You shouldn`t need to switch between the two. If you always prioritised the playing squad you`d never achieve the necessary expenditure on the academy. It would always be `kicked down the road`.

If we hadn`t experienced the extraordinary incidence of injuries this season I`m sure our squad would have been pretty competitive in the top half of the league. There are a lot of accusations going around of lack of support but the failure to finalise deals seems to be more about the individual choice of players than lack of finance. When I heard QP were interested in Chris Kane I feared the worst because of his connection with Callum Davidson and was pleasantly surprised when we secured his deal. He may turn out to be a better acquisition than Zak Rudden would have been. Who`s to say we might not end up with a better signing than Ashcroft? It`s just unfortunate we`ve only got two days before we play PT!

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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 10:50

Not convinced Ashcroft was ever a good idea, he never looked comfortable in a back 3, which the manager favours. Let’s see if they’ve any other experienced defender lined up - bar Efi Ambrose!!
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Topic Originator: par-91  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 12:05

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SeasonedPar, Wed 21 Feb 10:50

Not convinced Ashcroft was ever a good idea, he never looked comfortable in a back 3, which the manager favours. Let’s see if they’ve any other experienced defender lined up - bar Efi Ambrose!!


I (foolishly) believed the impending arrival of Ashcroft was a factor behind the switch to a back 4 on Saturday.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 12:13

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par-91, Wed 21 Feb 12:05

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SeasonedPar, Wed 21 Feb 10:50

Not convinced Ashcroft was ever a good idea, he never looked comfortable in a back 3, which the manager favours. Let’s see if they’ve any other experienced defender lined up - bar Efi Ambrose!!


I (foolishly) believed the impending arrival of Ashcroft was a factor behind the switch to a back 4 on Saturday.


You could be right, but maybe there’s someone else being signed.
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 14:54

It`s useless having academy if your a yoyo team between championship and league one.

To develop players to sell on, you really need to be in the SPL.

We can have a training pitch and academy but it will cost us more harm than good to run it from league one.

They have the priorities wrong, should be in SPL first before spending money on this.
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 14:56

The academy isn`t just about selling on. It`s about developing our own players so we don`t need to buy in. It`s also about having a facility to improve the current squad.

That said, I agree it`s a fine balance between investing in the future and investing in the here and now.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 15:22

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jake89, Wed 21 Feb 14:56

The academy isn`t just about selling on. It`s about developing our own players so we don`t need to buy in. It`s also about having a facility to improve the current squad.

That said, I agree it`s a fine balance between investing in the future and investing in the here and now.


Agree, and a first class state of art training ground might just tip the balance for any player to sign.
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Topic Originator: forever black and white  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 16:06

Read something the other day about Hearts . They will be looking to build there own academy in two years time as the deal they have at the oriam will be coming to a end . This is after building a hotel at Tynecastle this year. Anne Budge is on record saying that when the time comes to build the academy, most if not all revenue will be going towards the building of the academy. She also said that over the next two years all revenue will be going on the playing side before hand . Mmm makes better sense than the way we`ve went about it.

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Topic Originator: AveragePar  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 16:13

Ashcroft announced by raith
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 16:22

Making the club an attractive successful club should have been first over building the academy. It’s not an “if you build it they will come” thing, you can build it but if you are in the seaside leagues you aren’t gonna attract players over the likes of Raith, Livingston etc. Funding it with the revenue from that league will be difficult too.

If we’d went for promotion first we’d be in a far better position to attract decent young players to the academy (and pay for it). There’s also the added revenue from the bigger gates.

At the moment it smacks of being more a school project than an actual business idea.

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Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 16:25

Oh well it stops all the speculation about maybe I maybe No ,
So it`s back to the drawing board ? Or maybe nobody on the radar ,
It`s kinda hard to entice anyone to come to us on the vein of form we are in ! And at present it`s not a good watch for us supporters either as we don`t know where our next win is coming from , we lose the same daft goals every week ! And the problem is we don`t take our chances at the other end which of late have been far and few between never mind we just need to keep being positive and hope for a miracle

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 16:28

The German investors made their intentions very clear when they came on the scene. I doubt they would have become involved if the Academy hadn`t been prioritised.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 16:34

According to the Rovers` website -

`The experienced centre-back had plenty of other Championship offers but knew Raith Rovers was where he wanted to be.`

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Topic Originator: StevenPar77  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 16:39

Rovers have made a number of not so subtle digs at us this season. Rightly so, some would say, as do I, to an extent, but, I hope it bites them back hard somewhere down the line.

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Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 16:40

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87Par, Tue 20 Feb 22:57

Looking forward to their cringey no doubt dig laden announcement of this on their social media. Yawn.

He didn`t want to come. If that`s what it boils down to. So be it. We go with what we have and keep looking/getting players back.


As predicted.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 16:50

McPake`s links to Dundee and other former clubs are being rendered irrelevant if the draw of his current team is so lamentable.

" State of the art training ground" - behave

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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 16:54

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Westies squint kicks, Wed 21 Feb 16:50

McPake`s links to Dundee and other former clubs are being rendered irrelevant if the draw of his current team is so lamentable.

" State of the art training ground" - behave


https://dafc.co.uk/rosyth-training-facility/


Look it up yourself.
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Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 16:55

Fully expect them to be slaughtering us. They’ve been branded the ‘Wee Team’, for god knows how long, which clearly infuriates them! Now, they finally have a board taking them in the right direction. We on the other hand are shocking ran and going in the wrong direction! Ashcroft signing for them is the cherry on top as many were convinced he was coming to us,

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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 17:06

Not concerned about Ashcroft. Just want an experienced central defender. He made is choice, we move on.
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 17:08

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RossF, Wed 21 Feb 16:55

Fully expect them to be slaughtering us. They’ve been branded the ‘Wee Team’, for god knows how long, which clearly infuriates them! Now, they finally have a board taking them in the right direction. We on the other hand are shocking ran and going in the wrong direction! Ashcroft signing for them is the cherry on top as many were convinced he was coming to us,


But they ARE a wee team. Best season in years and still only had 7k for a top of the table clash against Dundee Utd. We had more in the First Division against a smaller rival. The guys at Raith are doing a cracking job but, as we learned at a massive cost in the 2000s, there`s a limit on how many fans you can attract. We naively thought we`d be averaging 8k crowds but pretty sure it was more like 5 or 6k. I don`t think Raith are overspending but the risk with promotion is the money isn`t much better unless you`re seeing big crowd increases and that isn`t guaranteed when there are a lot of teams in the Premier with woeful supports. Remember that the team at Raith moved on from Kelty as that had gone as far as it could.
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 17:13

Rangers, Celtic, Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen would pack Starks out.
Dundee would take a sizable crowd too, it`s a huge gulf between that and having Arbroath, Queens Park, Inverness, Airdrie and Ayr.

The prize money jump is massive too.

Ep.14 of East End Tales is out now- The Draft

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Topic Originator: Gem 1977  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 17:18

Well, it seems Murray likes signing a Dundee player more than McPake 🤷

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Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 17:52

I’m disappointed about Ashcroft, perhaps putting too much emphasis on it but I think that signing alone would’ve made it much more likely for us to get out of the predicament we find ourselves in.

I don’t know enough about the pool of players who may be available to us, but I’m worried we won’t get the experience in we’re craving and it is a very difficult ask for the players we do have available to manage this on their own.
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 18:04

No good when even mcpake can’t attract players he knows….time to look wider that Dundee and Perth and roll the dice. Or have we just decided we don’t need anymore and we’ll hope we somehow limp through in the playoffs?

It’s at the point where I’m writing fri off and it’s all about the ayr game now.

McCann another who signed a long term deal despite yet another season of a nothing burger even at the lower level. He looks the part but can’t play the part.



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Topic Originator: Neebur  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 18:13

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But they ARE a wee team. Best season in years and still only had 7k for a top of the table clash against Dundee Utd. We had more in the First Division against a smaller rival. The guys at Raith are doing a cracking job but, as we learned at a massive cost in the 2000s, there`s a limit on how many fans you can attract. We naively thought we`d be averaging 8k crowds but pretty sure it was more like 5 or 6k. I don`t think Raith are overspending but the risk with promotion is the money isn`t much better unless you`re seeing big crowd increases and that isn`t guaranteed when there are a lot of teams in the Premier with woeful supports. Remember that the team at Raith moved on from Kelty as that had gone as far as it could.


Have to laugh at “they only had 7000 for the top of the table clash”

Their ground only holds 7900 and was sold out,Friday night,live on cooncil TV

Not convinced Ashcroft was ever coming to us,just said in an interview the move to Raith had been in the pipeline since January.Said that Potter has been in regular contact with him

Raith like many,many clubs will be overspending to some level



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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 18:25

There isn’t a game on Saturday. It’s Friday night we’re away to Partick.

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Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 18:28

https://dafc.co.uk/manager-previews-partick-thistle-match-2/

Ashcroft addressed in there along with what now.

"I don’t know enough about the pool of players who may be available to us, but I’m worried we won’t get the experience in we’re craving"

if its loans, it will be a handful of players and of those, potentially none will be available. presumably free agents will be considered but again there wont be a lot of options

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 18:29

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Neebur, Wed 21 Feb 18:13

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But they ARE a wee team. Best season in years and still only had 7k for a top of the table clash against Dundee Utd. We had more in the First Division against a smaller rival. The guys at Raith are doing a cracking job but, as we learned at a massive cost in the 2000s, there`s a limit on how many fans you can attract. We naively thought we`d be averaging 8k crowds but pretty sure it was more like 5 or 6k. I don`t think Raith are overspending but the risk with promotion is the money isn`t much better unless you`re seeing big crowd increases and that isn`t guaranteed when there are a lot of teams in the Premier with woeful supports. Remember that the team at Raith moved on from Kelty as that had gone as far as it could.


Have to laugh at “they only had 7000 for the top of the table clash”

Their ground only holds 7900 and was sold out,Friday night,live on cooncil TV

Not convinced Ashcroft was ever coming to us,just said in an interview the move to Raith had been in the pipeline since January.Said that Potter has been in regular contact with him

Raith like many,many clubs will be overspending to some level



No, it was "sold out" like we were "sold out" for Falkirk.
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Topic Originator: maradona86  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 18:47

John Potter was the major factor in Ashcroft signing for the rovers according to reports.
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Topic Originator: purekozma  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 19:04

Andy Barrowman & John Potter behind the running doing a decent job by the looks of it.

‘League 1 title winners 2023.’
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Topic Originator: purekozma  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 19:07

Colin Cameron too, a wealth of knowledge there.

‘League 1 title winners 2023.’
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Topic Originator: shellypar  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 19:08

Tbh about the training "complex", if it is so called state of the art, i know many people (as a young man myself), who would 100% choose us over your hearts, hibs, etc as they would have guaranteed access to the training ground, and better training will get players better, and maybe unearth some gems through the academy for the mighty pars

Sorry if this doesnt read perfectly either

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 19:19

Hopefully it reaps rewards, Shellypar

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Topic Originator: purekozma  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 19:20

Anyway my memory of Ashcroft at Starks Park was him being a donkey in the 2019 Scottish Cup defeat 3-0 getting sent off and Vaughan going onto a hatrick.

‘League 1 title winners 2023.’
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 19:26

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shellypar, Wed 21 Feb 19:08

Tbh about the training "complex", if it is so called state of the art, i know many people (as a young man myself), who would 100% choose us over your hearts, hibs, etc as they would have guaranteed access to the training ground, and better training will get players better, and maybe unearth some gems through the academy for the mighty pars

Sorry if this doesnt read perfectly either


Absolute nonsense. Living in cloud cuckoo land if you think a youngster from Fife is choosing a contract at Dunfermline (who are constantly jumping between league 1 and the championship) and a contract at hearts, Hibs, Dundee, Dundee Utd etc because we have our own training facility. Also, a better Astro turf pitch does not mean better training, they’ll still be getting trained by James Mcpake.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 19:46

It`s frustrating in that another week has gone by, and we seem to be no further forward in getting a defender in.
Given that we play on Friday, it will roll on another week and another game less to go before the end of the season.

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Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 20:00

Topic Originator: purekozma
Date: Wed 21 Feb 19:20

Anyway my memory of Ashcroft at Starks Park was him being a donkey in the 2019 Scottish Cup defeat 3-0 getting sent off and Vaughan going onto a hatrick.

‘League 1 title winners 2023.


The same boy who also scored the winner at Starks Park 2 or 3 seasons before that.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 20:11

.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 20:45

Mark Mcnulty ex Hibs ,Dundee Utd , and Scotland Signs for Spartans on short term deal , oh well another one goes by .

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Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 20:55

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saltonsgonagetu, Wed 21 Feb 20:45

Mark Mcnulty ex Hibs ,Dundee Utd , and Scotland Signs for Spartans on short term deal , oh well another one goes by .


10 goals in 5 years, what a catch.
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 Re: Experienced Loan Signings incoming?
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 21:18

Can we loan players from the rovers? Maybe they have an experienced centre back surplus that they could loan us?

He would be better than what we have fit at the moment.

Team crying out for an experienced defender and an attacking midfielder and I’d suggest we need it to have a chance of avoiding 9th.

The experiment with multiple young loans has failed (same as last time time in this league). Just hope the 2 lads from Cardiff haven’t taken up the last of the wage budget.



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Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 21:20

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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 21:45

Marc McNulty is quite jobby, and he is in his mid 30s. Chris Kane is much better, and will be a good player for us. Chris` work rate is something we desperately missed in the attacking areas. Just need to get that midfield and defence sorted one way or another.

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Topic Originator: Athletico  
Date:   Wed 21 Feb 21:54

Surprised we aren`t in for Darren Brownlie, plenty Championship experience, good player and available after being released from Dundalk.

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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par  
Date:   Thu 22 Feb 17:19

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maradona86, Wed 21 Feb 18:47

John Potter was the major factor in Ashcroft signing for the rovers according to reports.


It’s not rocket science.
Who would you rather play for?
A team in good spirits, challenging to win the league, or a team with moaning pussed grumpy supporters, struggling to avoid relegation?

Chance of a winners medal vs possible abuse and relegation?
Let me think…

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Topic Originator: adj27  
Date:   Fri 23 Feb 11:52

Charlie Reilly joins Arbroath from Dundee until the end of the season.

Andy
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Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Fri 23 Feb 13:32

the chances on Hanlon were slim at best but with the news of one centre half going back to Bournemouth due to injury, that will be down to none now.

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Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Sat 24 Feb 15:47

Ashcroft at fault for the Ayr equaliser now off with a hamstring injury…..
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