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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 31 Mar 11:34
Thanks Brian and co.
First goal unfortunate but second we should be defending better.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 31 Mar 12:44
That free kick looked virtually unsaveable. Standing behind the goals yesterday it was noticeable how much the ball sometimes deviated in flight even from a straightforward goalie`s kick-out which can`t make it easy for goalies dealing with shots and crosses.
It was good to see Otoo get a goal. I don`t think he shoots often enough and this might encourage him. Kane deserved his goal as a previous attempt had come back off the bar and fallen nicely for an Arbroath player to clear but this time the ball fell kindly for us.
Their first goal seemed to be the result of a wicked corner which evaded a posse of players before landing at the back post for an unmarked player to convert. The second one was untidy but they had the same man in the same place to take advantage.
The editor saved Jakubiak`s blushes by not showing his miss but McCann could have made the closing stages more comfortable by converting that one-on-one with Gaston.
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Topic Originator: robbie
Date: Sun 31 Mar 12:46
Kane showing what a good
forward he is by following in
on all 3 goals.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 31 Mar 13:44
Wee eck, the goalie was far too close to his left post. I think if he had been a couple of yards over, he might have got there ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 31 Mar 13:49
He might not have seen the ball if that had been his starting position, Raymie. I was surprised how much height Allan got on the ball to clear the wall and how much it dipped before entering the net; superb technique in my opinion.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 31 Mar 14:19
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 31 Mar 13:49
He might not have seen the ball if that had been his starting position, Raymie. I was surprised how much height Allan got on the ball to clear the wall and how much it dipped before entering the net; superb technique in my opinion.
It always surprises me how far to one side the goalies stand. Most teams have players capable of getting it up and over. They should take a more central stance, imo
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sun 31 Mar 14:21
Parsfan one can embed videos from YouTube π
Great view π
Makes it easier for viewers to see
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Sun 31 Mar 15:18
Agreed Raymie. I will never understand goalies who leave gaps to one side when free kicks are in obvious striking distance.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 31 Mar 15:39
You guys have rewritten the coaching manual for goalies facing free-kicks from just outside the box. The conventional wisdom has always been that the wall has the main responsibility for protecting one half of the goal and the goalie for the other half. That`s why they don`t take up a central position presumably. Any goalies or goalie coaches on here who can advise?
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Sun 31 Mar 15:49
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brian, Sun 31 Mar 14:21
Parsfan one can embed videos from YouTube π
Great view π
Makes it easier for viewers to see
Great thanks. It did occur to me afterwards that you could do that but in the Android app it just shows up as another link. I take it it works in browsers.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sun 31 Mar 16:08
Ah sorry, yea it doesn`t show fully on App
Just browsers
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 31 Mar 17:58
If that was Arbroath who scored that free kick I`d be questioning the keeper to be fair he seems to be way too far over to the other side. I can`t remember seeing a free kick scored by hitting it away from the wall?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sun 31 Mar 18:21
I don`t think the keeper is at fault there. The starting position looks OK and it basically gives the player taking the kick two options - get it over the wall and in at the post or go to the keeper`s side and hope he takes a step the other way. If the keeper stands in the middle of the goal, there probably isn`t much point in having a wall. The aim is to make it as hard as possible to score by minimising the area that cannot be covered. Paul Allan got it right in that small area, by putting it so close to the post.
I had a feeling he was scoring as well, and muttered it to myself as he was about to hit it. Strangely, I did the same thing with the one Lewis McCann scored at Hampden and haven`t had that feeling any other time this season. I think it was just the body shape in the run up - both times it just looked perfect.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 31 Mar 18:45
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 31 Mar 15:39
You guys have rewritten the coaching manual for goalies facing free-kicks from just outside the box. The conventional wisdom has always been that the wall has the main responsibility for protecting one half of the goal and the goalie for the other half. That`s why they don`t take up a central position presumably. Any goalies or goalie coaches on here who can advise?
Yes, but you are not taking into account that players practice free kicks and have the ability to negate the wall. The game has moved on and the balls are different too
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 31 Mar 19:00
If the game has moved on why hasn`t goalies` technique changed with it? No offence, Raymie, but I`d like to hear a specialist`s opinion on the subject.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 31 Mar 19:31
None taken. GIUY π
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: par-4-life
Date: Sun 31 Mar 19:43
The setup for the free kick is fine. Aim for the GK is too setup a wall to protect 1 side of the goal whilst he protects the other. The success rate is surprisingly low. I played in goals for years and always setup this way. If the player manages to get it up and down fair play not much can be done. I would question the dive to try and save however, he doesnβt exactly fling himself full stretch to try and stop it
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 31 Mar 20:02
Thanks for your input, par-4-life. I presume you mean the success rate for the kickers is surprisingly low? Certainly I haven`t seen many successful ones for the Pars over the years. Allan`s deliveries from corners are generally first-class too.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 31 Mar 20:37
Post Edited (Sun 31 Mar 20:37)
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sun 31 Mar 21:11
SKY did a thing regarding this with Ipswich. Easily 20+ years aglo and i think from memory it was Martin Reuser who was popping them in like Juninho and Beckham.
They followed him at training and he was firing them in as usual then they did an experiment and removed the defensive wall completely; it was like someone had put him under a spell. Couldn`t judge the power and lost all perception of distance as he had no wall to visualise getting it `up and down`. Shame i can`t find it online as it was fascinating.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 31 Mar 21:40
The issue with that is that the player is thrown off in the aftermath of the change.
If they went back 2 weeks later, having practiced with no wall, he`d likely have been pinging them in the top corner 9 times out of 10.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Mon 1 Apr 00:24
As I said in my post earlier, for keepers facing a direct free kick in obvious striking distance. My reckoning is even with a wall, it should be placed to give the keeper protection on one side but still have a view from central. As Raymie said with the changes in movement and the ball these days itβs still a lottery. And to wee ecks point about wanting informed opinion here regarding technical aspects of football, this is the wrong place to come π
Edited due to poor autocorrect
Post Edited (Mon 01 Apr 01:28)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 1 Apr 00:44
`wee dick`? Classy.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Mon 1 Apr 01:28
wee eck wrote:
> `wee dick`? Classy.
>
>
Auto correct fail, have now fixed.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 1 Apr 09:23
Must be the only explanation as to why I`m referred to as "nob no 1"
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Mon 1 Apr 10:30
It`s not auto correct, it`s artificial intelligence!
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Mon 1 Apr 14:12
lol at both da and cross par π€£
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Topic Originator: Townsvillepar
Date: Mon 1 Apr 22:56
Thanks again Brian and team. Great to see a Pars win at Arbroath and a good away support.
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